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December 01, 2006

[00:13:37] <dds> I want to write a plugin that uses a custom field on a ticket to store a timestamp value.
[00:14:00] <dds> If I could do it all, I'd like to have an ajaxy calendar selection in the form page.
[00:14:15] <dds> but at the least, can I attach a post-processor to the ticket form to change a string into a timedate value for the database?
[00:27:26] <asmodai> cmlenz: DUDE!
[00:27:31] <asmodai> cmlenz: Du lebst!
[00:46:29] <cboos> usually when cmlenz is off the net, he's up to some awesome secret project ...
[00:46:48] <cboos> remember the pre-genshi period? I thought he was watching the soccer world-cup ;)
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[00:53:40] <cboos> cmlenz: hi, do you have 2 minutes?
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[01:05:03] <cmlenz> hey folks
[01:05:12] <cboos> hello
[01:05:31] <cmlenz> not much time right now... on my way to a doctor
[01:05:38] <cmlenz> smashed my head open last weekend :-P
[01:05:45] <cboos> oops
[01:06:11] <cboos> know that, did that before ...
[01:06:23] <cboos> was it also the bottom of a swimming pool ;) ?
[01:06:55] <cmlenz> no, while ice skating
[01:07:04] <cmlenz> damn hard, ice
[01:07:26] <cboos> really sorry for you! I know how it can hurt ...
[01:07:34] <cboos> was it only the skin?
[01:08:14] <cmlenz> yeah, all's okay now
[01:08:28] <cmlenz> ok, bbl
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[01:14:35] <otaku42> moin
[01:16:21] <asmodai> wow, that must've sucked
[01:16:24] <asmodai> cboos: Dude!
[01:17:16] <cboos> asmodai, you're working in a library, right?
[01:19:16] <asmodai> cboos: For now yes.
[01:19:31] <cboos> have you already read the "ilias goes to the library" thread?
[01:19:44] <asmodai> No
[01:19:49] <cboos> entertainment garanteed ;) wait ...
[01:20:00] <cboos> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/browse_frm/thread/865481b8c0561667/e62bf980a87ffbe2?#e62bf980a87ffbe2
[01:20:59] <asmodai> haha, who found this? :)
[01:21:09] <asmodai> wow, google groups became less cluttered
[01:21:46] <cboos> well, it's linked from in a comp.ruby.lang thread ...
[01:22:16] <asmodai> haha
[01:22:39] <cboos> I was having a look there, found a recent mail in which ilias asked for his contributed code to be removed from assembla...
[01:23:05] <cboos> so much for accepting his code in Trac in the future, I guess...
[01:23:14] <asmodai> wow
[01:23:39] <asmodai> That's definitely a huge sign on the wall ( I think is also the right expression in English )
[01:24:01] <asmodai> cboos: got that recent email as well?
[01:24:28] <misc> can he ask to remove the code ?
[01:24:37] <cboos> well, it's actually linked from his Wikipedia page
[01:25:15] <cboos> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/3bee4efd23da36ae
[01:25:36] <cboos> (but please go on reading the first thread, it's really fun, particularly the "going to the library interupts thinking-flow." part and the explanation why ...)
[01:26:29] <misc> well, he is right, when i see a nice lady, i cannot think to lisp anymore
[01:26:35] <misc> not that i think to lisp anyway :)
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[01:27:29] <asmodai> cboos: But to be honest, this clearly means that the contributions are highly volatile.
[01:27:48] <asmodai> cboos: I mean, one of the reasons I use MIT/BSD licenses is that I don't care if it gets used commercially.
[01:28:19] <asmodai> If it means that the world becomes a slightly better world due to some of my contributions, all the better. If they offer me a job, even moreso ;)
[01:30:11] <asmodai> Ok, the more I read this stuff the more I seriously wonder about this person's mental state.
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[01:38:53] <asmodai> ok
[01:39:05] <asmodai> after reading that entire thread I am 100% confirmed he has mental issues.
[01:39:18] <cboos> indeed ...
[01:40:00] <asmodai> And after dealing with the social working force at the library here for the entire day those kind of emails are overflowing my bucket
[01:40:45] <cboos> sorry for having contributed to that ;)
[01:41:00] <asmodai> That's ok.
[01:41:05] <asmodai> I am building up resistance.
[01:41:12] <asmodai> I haven't replied to any of those emails now have I?
[01:41:22] <asmodai> (Granted I have typed up replies which I threw away.)
[01:41:47] <cboos> ... should have done that more often ;)
[01:42:13] <asmodai> He even made it to a .sig of someone on c.l.s:
[01:42:14] <asmodai> Ilias - i'd like to avoid reading to much:
[01:42:14] <asmodai> Anton - That's good, since I'd like to avoid writing too much.
[01:42:14] <asmodai> -- Response to Ilias <atnews@pontos.net> (on c.l.s)
[01:44:06] <asmodai> cboos: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/browse_frm/thread/1b0a992c60c092d4/06dcb13ad80e482f?lnk=gst&q=ilias&rnum=2#06dcb13ad80e482f
[01:44:12] <asmodai> cboos: this whole thread looks to be a gem too
[01:45:58] <cboos> you cannot judge.
[01:45:59] <cboos> you don't know me.
[01:46:00] <cboos> you don't know my goals.
[01:46:11] <cboos> (that one is a gem, yes!)
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[01:48:53] <asmodai> hehe ;)
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[02:41:22] <neongrau2> i just tried to open a ticket but when i try to submit it i get an internal error "Akismet rejected spam"
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[03:07:19] <asmodai> cmlenz: wb
[03:07:26] <asmodai> cmlenz: Btw, sucks that you fell :S
[03:08:00] <cmlenz> yeah
[03:08:23] <asmodai> cmlenz: All's well? No concussion?
[03:08:24] <cmlenz> just saw the wound for the first time, it's friggin' true frankenstein-style :-P
[03:09:09] <asmodai> hahaha
[03:09:15] <asmodai> PHOTOS!
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[03:13:12] <cmlenz> heh
[03:25:13] <asmodai> cmlenz: btw, I'm looking at this lxml thing for genshi
[03:27:13] <cmlenz> what do you mean?
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[03:28:33] <asmodai> cmlenz: a ticket in the genshi database
[03:28:39] <asmodai> from ian bicking I think
[03:29:57] <cmlenz> ah
[03:30:29] <asmodai> cmlenz: :)
[03:30:32] <cmlenz> is probably just a relatively small function
[03:30:43] <asmodai> cmlenz: Although I am not 100% sure I catch the full drift.
[03:31:01] <asmodai> He basically wants the template, after it is totally generated to be a lxml tree?
[03:31:32] <cmlenz> a way to convert any genshi stream to an lxml tree
[03:31:50] <cmlenz> http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/Documentation/streams.html
[03:33:21] <asmodai> aha
[03:33:36] * asmodai will spend some time on that this weekend
[03:35:39] <cmlenz> should be possible to make it work with etree too
[03:35:42] <cmlenz> same API
[03:36:24] <cboos> cmlenz: about the browser-quickjump branch, is it OK for you now?
[03:36:42] <cmlenz> okay for merging?
[03:36:46] <cboos> yes
[03:37:16] <cmlenz> haven't had enough of a look yet tbh
[03:37:46] <cboos> wait, I'll update the diff link...
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[03:38:31] <asmodai> cmlenz: *nod*
[03:41:34] <cboos> oops, the diff is far from clean... probably messed up the merging from trunk somehow...
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[03:44:01] <cboos> ah no, simply got the wrong rev.
[03:44:13] <cboos> http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset?new=4376&new_path=sandbox%2Fbrowser-quickjump&old=4373&old_path=trunk
[03:44:23] <cboos> cmlenz: in case you want to have a quick look
[03:44:35] <cmlenz> thanks
[03:44:57] <cmlenz> what changed in the images?
[03:45:51] <cboos> nothing, it's a bug in the diff
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[03:46:09] <cmlenz> hmm
[03:46:18] <cmlenz> any idea what kind of bug?
[03:46:28] <cboos> I haven't got around tracking it down, but it's when comparing binaries
[03:46:44] <cboos> I think it's very minor
[03:46:48] <cmlenz> okay
[03:47:17] <cmlenz> branches vs branch_folders and tags vs tag_folders... the purpose/distrinction isn't quite clear to me
[03:48:38] <cmlenz> distinction, even
[03:49:12] <cboos> branch/tags is for explicitly listing entries, vs. branch_folders/tag_folders is for listing folders from which all the entries are taken
[03:49:36] <cboos> e.g. branch = 'trunk' , branch_folder = 'branches'
[03:50:27] <cboos> see also
[03:50:31] <cboos> @ticket 4223
[03:50:31] <evil_twin> cboos: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4223
[03:52:01] <cmlenz> hmm
[03:52:32] <cmlenz> can't we use glob patterns for that?
[03:52:42] <cmlenz> as we do for the downloadable paths thing
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[04:06:21] <cmlenz> bbiab
[04:13:07] <cboos> well, for the downloadable_path, the situation is different, we have one path (the current path) and we want to check if it's allowed.
[04:15:57] <otaku42> pacopablo: ping?
[04:17:34] <cboos> cmlenz: Here, we want to generate entries, and try to avoid having to do a get_node/get_entries if it's not required. Therefore with glob patterns we'd have to add lots of complexity... (e.g. what about /tags/*/exp-* ...) Doable but probably overkill.
[04:26:16] <ScottMac> i find glob on Windows unreliable
[04:26:21] <ScottMac> just to throw in my 2p
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[04:30:23] <Bracki> i'm using trac 0.8.1 and have some problems when editing milestones.
[04:30:52] <Bracki> it says explicitly that wiki formatting is supported but unfortuntaley bullet lists beginning with * wont work
[04:35:00] <cboos> Bracki: trac 0.8.1 is a bit old, don't you think?
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[04:35:46] <Bracki> cboos: its the default on debian/sarge ;)
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[04:36:45] <cboos> isn't that outdated either? (don't know, I've never used debian)
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[04:37:23] <cboos> (exept from an aborted attempt ten years ago ;) )
[04:37:55] <ScottMac> sarge is the latest debian
[04:38:11] <ScottMac> but you could grab the latest from testing
[04:38:53] <ScottMac> testing has 10.2-1
[04:39:13] <ScottMac> http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/trac
[04:39:39] <cboos> with out witout the patch for #4132?
[04:39:47] <cboos> with or without I meant
[04:40:20] <cboos> we should probably make a 0.10.3 thie week-end, now that cmlenz is back ;)
[04:40:40] <Bracki> ScottMac: is there anything i need to worry about or can i upgrade straight?
[04:41:13] <ScottMac> I've never done a 0.8.x -> 0.10.x upgrade
[04:41:26] <ScottMac> but I suspect there was a giant bunch of changes
[04:41:34] <ScottMac> and afaik there is an upgrade script
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[04:58:58] <Bracki> how can i automatically set the assignee to the component owner?
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[05:35:09] <Niels--> Hi.
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[05:35:51] <hugeMe> i am sorry if this seems like a really stupid question
[05:36:07] <hugeMe> but i am a bit confused at to how to add a user that can log into trac
[05:36:16] <Niels--> Does anybody know how to disable the cache. Restarting Apache is not the way i like it :)
[05:36:16] * hugeMe is now known as weeMe
[05:36:42] <Niels--> weeMe are you using the default http auth ?
[05:36:59] <weeMe> i havent set it up as of yet
[05:37:08] <weeMe> just installed with mod_python
[05:37:11] <Niels--> ok so. Two parts.
[05:37:14] <weeMe> and have init a project
[05:37:33] <Niels--> First you must set up apache to do a http basic auth on the /login location
[05:38:00] <Niels--> In the apache config, you'll have to set up a AuthUserFile (.htpasswd)
[05:38:21] <Niels--> To create it, just do htpasswd -c /path/to/.htpasswd your_user
[05:38:39] <weeMe> ok and how do i set the password?
[05:38:41] <Niels--> You user can now login into the trac
[05:38:55] <Niels--> the htpasswd utility we'll ask for a password :)
[05:38:58] <weeMe> cool will try it now
[05:39:15] <Niels--> After you'll have to setup the permissions inside trac
[05:39:19] * weeMe is now known as evensmallerthanb
[05:39:23] <evensmallerthanb> ok back in a sec
[05:39:53] <Niels--> Look ath this page if you want more information http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnDebianSarge
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[05:40:54] <evensmallerthanb> and just like magic it appeared
[05:40:59] <evensmallerthanb> hey thanks alot for that
[05:41:17] <evensmallerthanb> will have a read on the page now
[05:41:20] <evensmallerthanb> thanks again
[05:41:39] <evensmallerthanb> oh one more question
[05:41:48] <evensmallerthanb> in regards to the SVN integration
[05:41:59] <Niels--> yep ?
[05:42:06] <evensmallerthanb> does the user and pass come from trac for the subversion system
[05:42:17] <evensmallerthanb> or do i set that as per usual in subversion
[05:42:42] <Niels--> As you'll see on the page I"ve just linked
[05:43:00] <Niels--> You can setup subversion and trac to use the same .htpasswd file
[05:43:05] <evensmallerthanb> oh ok thanks for that off there now
[05:43:11] <Niels--> so you've got the same logins
[05:43:32] <Niels--> but you can always make separate login list if you want to
[05:43:53] <Niels--> /detach
[05:46:59] <evensmallerthanb> oh ok
[05:47:19] <evensmallerthanb> so rather than the svn..... file i use the one i just created
[05:47:36] <evensmallerthanb> i would like the same log ins as its easier to manage
[05:48:32] <evensmallerthanb> if i have multiple projects do i just put this all at the project level
[05:53:03] <evensmallerthanb> Unknown DAV provider: svn
[05:53:09] <evensmallerthanb> i just got this error
[06:21:22] <Niels--> Have you installed mod_dav_svn on apache ?
[06:28:31] <Bracki> relative paths in trac.ini are relative to where?
[06:28:37] <Bracki> trac/conf?
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[06:40:47] <evensmallerthanb> oops sorry
[06:40:53] <evensmallerthanb> got dragged away
[06:41:06] <evensmallerthanb> no it appears tha mod_dav is ther
[06:41:13] <evensmallerthanb> no mod_dav_svn
[06:41:34] <evensmallerthanb> but i can see the subversion root from within trac
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[06:43:07] <evensmallerthanb> just looking at mod_dav_svn now
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[07:00:31] <coderanger> [ilias] oh boy is that funny
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[07:02:21] <asmodai> coderanger: mmm?
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[07:02:31] <coderanger> the library thread
[07:02:35] <asmodai> oh yea
[07:02:44] <asmodai> :D
[07:02:55] <coderanger> #4174 is also hilarious
[07:03:47] <asmodai> on teo?
[07:04:01] <coderanger> yeah
[07:04:11] <coderanger> the last two comments
[07:04:44] <asmodai> *reads*
[07:06:30] <asmodai> coderanger: well it seems he has asked another project to revert all commits by him
[07:06:36] <asmodai> or the patches he sent in
[07:06:44] <coderanger> isnt that illegal?
[07:06:55] <asmodai> no idea to be honest.
[07:07:13] <asmodai> coderanger: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/3bee4efd23da36ae
[07:07:37] <coderanger> General FOSS IP is that contributions take a dual copyright of the person and the controlling organization (edgewall)
[07:08:57] <stepz> hi, any news on ticket 4245 front?
[07:10:15] <asmodai> coderanger: not sure -- I generally file tickets with patches and am happy if they get applied.
[07:10:30] <coderanger> Given that cmlenz indicated a big injury since saying he would look at it, I would guess he didn't get to it yet
[07:11:17] <coderanger> asmodai: Yeah, maybe I'll ask someone, I would hate to see Trac get into legal trouble because of a jerk like him
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[07:34:14] <pacopablo> morning
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[07:39:18] <asmodai> coderanger: Please do
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[08:18:07] <pacopablo> otaku42: what's up?
[08:19:03] <otaku42> pacopablo: hi. it was a question related to evil_twin, but i already found the answer :)
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[08:28:34] <pacopablo> cool
[08:29:35] <evensmallerthanb> is anyone able to give me a hint on webadmin
[08:29:52] <evensmallerthanb> i have dl from source (running trac v10)
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[08:30:18] <evensmallerthanb> i have put it in to the plugin folder in the trac enviroment i want to run it in
[08:30:31] <evensmallerthanb> and set the user for track_admin
[08:30:37] <evensmallerthanb> no errors etc
[08:30:47] <evensmallerthanb> but i cant see the webadmin in the bar
[08:31:14] <evensmallerthanb> am i missing something?
[08:31:35] <evensmallerthanb> anyone awake?
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[08:34:46] <dem314> hello?
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[08:35:20] <coderanger_> http://www.grupthink.com/answer/index.php5?id=33423&pap=3
[08:35:24] <coderanger_> Everyone go vote :)
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[08:36:00] <evensmallerthanb> coderanger
[08:36:18] <evensmallerthanb> are you able to help with an issue?
[08:36:34] <evensmallerthanb> i installed webadmin
[08:36:41] <evensmallerthanb> from source
[08:36:53] <evensmallerthanb> and put it in the enviroment i wanted to use it in
[08:37:10] <evensmallerthanb> put the stuff in trac.ini i had to
[08:37:19] <evensmallerthanb> but i cant see anything in the menu bar
[08:37:27] <evensmallerthanb> the user has the permissions set also
[08:37:39] <coderanger_> do you see it loading in the log
[08:37:41] <coderanger_> @logging
[08:37:41] <evil_twin> coderanger_: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[08:38:17] <evensmallerthanb> i will check it now
[08:43:26] <evensmallerthanb> 2006-12-01 17:33:35,845 Trac[loader] DEBUG: Loading egg plugin webadmin.plugin from /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/TracWebAdmin-0.1.2dev_r4240-py2.4.egg
[08:43:30] <evensmallerthanb> yep it is loading
[08:43:35] <evensmallerthanb> but i cant see anything
[08:44:21] <evensmallerthanb> it loads it a heap of times
[08:47:00] <evensmallerthanb> its ok
[08:47:06] <evensmallerthanb> i am retarded
[08:47:17] <evensmallerthanb> i changed the wrong conf file
[08:47:25] <evensmallerthanb> hey at least i own up to it
[08:47:30] <evensmallerthanb> look at me and laugh
[08:47:32] <evensmallerthanb> lol
[08:47:37] <evensmallerthanb> thanks anyway
[08:47:43] <evensmallerthanb> this app looks great
[08:47:46] <evensmallerthanb> ciao
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[08:48:38] <dem314> What do I use to refer to the current logged in user in a Custom Query?
[08:49:07] <coderanger_> You can't
[08:49:20] <coderanger_> But you can't save queries either, so its moot
[08:49:44] <dem314> eh?
[08:49:54] * coderanger_ -> class
[08:50:41] <dem314> okay
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[08:53:02] <apollo13> hi, is there a way to prevent anonymous users to edit the wiki pages?
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[08:54:28] <apollo13> never mind...
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[08:55:01] <dstarh> is there any way to attach custom fields to a ticket type?
[08:55:22] <dstarh> or another field
[08:55:54] <dstarh> for example we'll be using 1 trac instal for bugs, features, db requests and IT where not all fields will aplly to one another
[08:56:47] <dstarh> i was thinking you could add the custom fields and then go into the template where it loops over the list and then hard code them and tie some javascript to them? or at least make them expandable collapsable....
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[09:13:44] <__doc__> :) http://64studio.com/ just wanted to bring it to attention, maybe somebody add it somewhere on a site list or something, have fun ^^
[09:23:35] <dstarh> anyone here ahve experience with custom fields in tickets?
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[09:27:33] <__doc__> dstarh: yes
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[09:27:57] <dstarh> is there any way to relate custom fields to other fields
[09:28:04] <__doc__> relate?
[09:28:12] <dstarh> for example
[09:28:37] <dstarh> we'll be using trac for dev deb and it where not all custom fields would apply to all ticket types
[09:29:01] <dstarh> so if i create another ticket type i'd like a set of custom fields to relate only to that ticket type
[09:29:30] <dstarh> so that if someone wants a new keyboard, they dont have to see for example a Web Browser field - they dont relate
[09:30:15] <__doc__> dstarh: ic. I have no idea, but I haven't come by anything like that in the documentation so it's probably not there. Have you scanned the guides/documentation/help?
[09:30:46] <dstarh> yea
[09:30:59] <dstarh> i was thinking you could add the custom fields and then go into the template where it loops over the list and then hard code them and tie some javascript to them? or at least make them expandable collapsable....
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[09:37:16] <maxb> Generally, would tracd or mod_python be expected to perform better?
[09:39:52] <ScottMac> I would suspect mod_python since you'd serve static files from Apache rather than tracd
[09:41:34] <maxb> Hmm. That's what I thought/hoped, but the two seem to be benchmarking roughly the same
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[09:51:23] <ScottMac> maxb, you can use Apache's security mechanism as well :)
[09:51:33] <ScottMac> and you dont need to worry about starting a second daemon
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[09:57:42] <Wombert> anyone using the SpamFilter plugin?
[09:58:34] <Wombert> how can I have tickets incorrectly regarded as spam published?
[09:58:50] <Wombert> marking them as ham... only marks them ham ;) but doesn't publish thenm
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[10:04:39] <gordonjcp> silly question, but I can't see this in the docs
[10:04:51] <gordonjcp> is there a "proper" way to wikiformat an email address?
[10:21:36] <pacopablo> maxb: nginx + tracd
[10:21:45] <pacopablo> @faq nginxtracd
[10:21:45] <evil_twin> pacopablo: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[10:21:53] <pacopablo> @faq NginxTracd
[10:21:53] <evil_twin> pacopablo: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[10:21:59] <pacopablo> @faq Nginx
[10:21:59] <evil_twin> pacopablo: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[10:22:08] <pacopablo> gah! I can't remember what I named that key
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[10:22:30] <pacopablo> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracNginxRecipe
[10:35:22] <IamLordV1ldemort> @faq TracdNginx
[10:35:22] <evil_twin> IamLordV1ldemort: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[10:35:26] <IamLordV1ldemort> @faq TracNginx
[10:35:26] <evil_twin> IamLordV1ldemort: "TracNginx" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracNginxRecipe
[10:35:29] <IamLordV1ldemort> haha
[10:35:33] <IamLordV1ldemort> Take that pacopablo
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[10:36:14] <PlasmaHH> hi, how long does it usually take for trac until a commit is visible?