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<coderanger> |
cmlenz: g'morning |
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<cmlenz> |
hey |
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<coderanger> |
big day? |
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<cmlenz> |
yup |
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<coderanger> |
congrats :) |
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<cmlenz> |
thx :-) |
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<__doc__> |
moin |
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<__doc__> |
big day? |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: Moin |
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<cmlenz> |
hi |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: Waaah, congratz :) |
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<asmodai> |
duh |
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__doc__ is getting wed, brb ;) |
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<kaouete> |
hi |
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<kaouete> |
i was wondering if i could have something like that in the timeline : for a changeset, put before the commit message the base directory of the change (or something similar). i want to do something like that because i have several projects in an uniq repository and i would like to not to specify the project in the commit message to have it to be meaningfull |
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<kaouete> |
(with a uniq trac project of course) |
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<prologic> |
hey coderanger u around ? |
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<Blackhex2> |
hello |
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<prologic> |
Blackhex2, ltns :) |
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<prologic> |
heya |
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<Blackhex2> |
what'ss ltns? |
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<prologic> |
long time no see |
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<Blackhex2> |
ah, I had and still have a lot of school work :-( |
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<prologic> |
*nods* |
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<Blackhex2> |
I'm looking for some plugin that could display uml charts created from some easy to remember wiki syntax. I was looking in trac-hack if there is some graphs plugin but I didn't find anything except GanttPlugin which is something else. Do you know about some language and tool to generate graphs with UML support? |
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<prologic> |
yeah I dunno |
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<prologic> |
doing diagrams in a web-based tool would be nice |
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<Blackhex2> |
wysiwyg would be the best but for simplicity sake some wiki syntax extention would be satisfying |
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<Blackhex2> |
If there is someting as gnuplot for chatr for UML |
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<Blackhex2> |
s/chatr/graphs |
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<prologic> |
*nods* |
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<Blackhex2> |
ah I remember there is Dot :-) |
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<Blackhex2> |
yes and GraphvizPluging how could I forgot :-)ú |
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<Blackhex2> |
Do you know that story about bear? |
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<Sweetshark> |
shutil.Error: Cannot move a directory '/bla' into itself '/bla.bak' |
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<Sweetshark> |
^¯ I guess this is an error in the python lib ... shutil.py line 197 is overreacting a bit ... |
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<asmodai> |
mmm |
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<asmodai> |
is there any way for JavaScript to get the current element in which you start the JavaScript call/ |
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<Blackhex> |
only guess: what about this ? |
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<asmodai> |
mmm |
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<asmodai> |
*digs* |
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<asmodai> |
ah |
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<asmodai> |
n onclick property, though, is owned by the HTML element it belongs to. |
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<asmodai> |
So in this case using this would give me the element. |
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<asmodai> |
Now this might work :) |
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<Blackhex> |
:-) |
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<asmodai> |
Now for the next hurdle. |
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<cboos> |
howdy, I've got a quick python question ... |
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<ronaan10_> |
cboos, hoi :D |
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<Blackhex> |
hi |
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<cboos> |
how to test that something is a module? |
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<cboos> |
the intuitive: isinstance(something, module) |
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<ronaan10_> |
cboos, inspect.ismodule(foo) |
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<cboos> |
doesn't work |
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<ronaan10_> |
or |
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<ronaan10_> |
cboos isinstance(foo, new.module) |
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<cboos> |
ah! |
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<cboos> |
thankx |
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<cboos> |
thanks |
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<ronaan10_> |
no problem |
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<ronaan10_> |
cboos, new.module is just an alias for types.ModuleType btw |
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<cboos> |
asmodai: 3rd reopening for #4174, can you believe it ;) |
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<asmodai> |
cboos: Which ticket was that? |
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<cboos> |
this stupid little ticket about date ordering in query... |
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<cboos> |
I committed that on the 0.10-stable (even did that backporting as a favor to him), but he insists on the ticket being close _after teo is updated to that version_ i.e. a quite non-standard procedure... |
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<asmodai> |
always lovely |
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<asmodai> |
ahh, that ticket |
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<cboos> |
That's why I think we need to find an alternative to banning him on the lists... I'm afraid his presence would be even more annoying on t.e.o ... |
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<cboos> |
(unless with can train the Bayes filter to recognize his very specific prose ;) ) |
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<asmodai> |
hahah |
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<asmodai> |
Yeah, althought the involvement on the list decreased it seems. |
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<cboos> |
yes, hope it stays like that ... |
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<asmodai> |
Unless it means an increase of activity on teo :) |
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<tic> |
and elvelind disappeared. Noticed |
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<cboos> |
someone knows how to get SilverCity's version (programmatically), or should I disturb Google? |
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<quidam-> |
Hi, can i download the trac guide in pdf? |
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<cboos> |
quidam-: no |
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<quidam-> |
:-( |
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<nshepherd> |
is there a way to remove a workspace with trac-admin? |
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<nshepherd> |
or with another tool...? |
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<Sopwith> |
Is there anyone here who can tell me the best way to proceed with hacking on the workflow branch? |
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<f13> |
hi Sopwith |
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<f13> |
is there anybody familiar with the mercurial plugin, and what permissions the repo dir might need for trac to be able to use it? |
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<Sopwith> |
f13: Hey mon :) |
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<Sopwith> |
f13: No clue about mercurial, sorry |
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<Sopwith> |
f13: However, I'd guess that the repo dir would need to be readable by the apache user/group that trac runs as. |
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<f13> |
you'd thikn that, but normal hgweb dir stuff doesn't. |
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<f13> |
index.cgi does, but the repos themselves don't have to be readable it seems |
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<f13> |
wait, let me confirm that |
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<f13> |
seems hgweb is working if the dir is "x" by everybody, but not necessarily 'r' |
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<f13> |
er wait, these are r-x |
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<Harkins> |
I'd like to use the same passwd file for Trac and snvserve, but it looks like trac expects user:passwordhash and svn wants user = password. Is there some obvious way to make them play together I'm missing? |
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<kemik> |
whats up with the "changetime" field ? it�not in a nice dateformat as "createdtime" :X |
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<kemik> |
Harkins: i'm not sure at all, but i think you can use the same htpasswd file fro trac&svn |
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<Harkins> |
kemik: I tried setting them to look at the same file and the http auth login didn't work. |
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<kemik> |
Harkins: aki.. i donno ... wait around for someone else |
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<kemik> |
i'm not very experienced w/ tra |
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<kemik> |
*trac |
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<IamLordV1ldemort> |
pacopablo: Are you online? |
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<PlasmaHH> |
hi again. is it possible to setup trac to that a bug depends on multiple other bugs, like in some kind of a hierarchy? |
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<Sopwith> |
plasmahh: Not with the default trac codebase. There are patches floating around there to do bug dependencies. |
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<PlasmaHH> |
hmk. any plans to add it in a not so far away future? it would also be cool if you could arrange your tickets in a wbs like structure |
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<Ajaxamander> |
I'm having trouble with a custom report |
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<Ajaxamander> |
pastebin? |
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<Ajaxamander> |
!pastebin |
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<PlasmaHH> |
rafb.net/paste .. |
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<Ajaxamander> |
thanks |
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<PlasmaHH> |
you're welcome, human. |
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<Ajaxamander> |
well, hmm, unclear if a pastebin will help just yet |
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<Ajaxamander> |
I'm trying to add thigs from ticket_custom |
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<PlasmaHH> |
just give us full administrative access to your server and Im sure we will help you... in one or another way... ;) |
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<Ajaxamander> |
but every time I add it to the "FROM" section, or a "JOIN" section, I get errors that columns all over the place aren't defined |
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<Ajaxamander> |
ones that work otherwis |
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<Ajaxamander> |
roger that :D |
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<PlasmaHH> |
maybe you should polish up your sql skills? my guess is that you introduce ambiguities in which table to use or forgot to specify the tables |
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<Ajaxamander> |
the docs make it look like the "from" could be as simple as FROM ticket t, ticket_custom c |
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<Ajaxamander> |
pretty clear on SQL, just the sqllite dialect tripping me up |
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<PlasmaHH> |
you can use other dbms ;) |
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<Ajaxamander> |
Yeah, but those involve other infrastructure outside of trac |
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<PlasmaHH> |
right |
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<Ajaxamander> |
So, is there a place in the docs that maybe has a simpler example than the section on ticket-custom? |
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<PlasmaHH> |
I dont know any. but what helped me was playing with the sql cmd line tools to generate the query and then enter it into trac. that way you can make use of the online helping functionalitites. not sure bout sqlite but some others have some kind of tab completion and give better hints on whats wrong. |
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<coderanger> |
morning y'all |
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<PlasmaHH> |
yo |
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<PlasmaHH> |
so you surely can tell me if I get what I want soon ;) |
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<coderanger> |
hmm? |
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<PlasmaHH> |
big money, ruling the world... oh wait, wrong channel |
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<PlasmaHH> |
if trac will have bugs that can depend on each other and maybe even a wbs style to make them depend on each other |
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<coderanger> |
post-workflow |
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<coderanger> |
all that stuff is dependent on workflow's massive factoring of the ticket system |
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<coderanger> |
for now you can fake it with a custom field |
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<PlasmaHH> |
hmk. can you give any time information about when one might expect to have it? |
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<coderanger> |
Nope |
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<coderanger> |
"Some time between now and the day our Sun is a small lump of black coal" |
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<coderanger> |
(meaning I don't know) |
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<coderanger> |
Alec has been away for a few days, but you can ask him when he gets back |
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<coderanger> |
Or you can try begging me to write it next week :P |
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<PlasmaHH> |
you get my chocolate santa ;) |
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<PlasmaHH> |
how hard would it be to change the workflow stuff to support that? or maybe even custom workflows? |
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<coderanger> |
given that Alec is starting the branch over rom scratch, very |
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<Harkins> |
How do I change the desription on an entered ticket? |
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<PlasmaHH> |
Harkins: with the right permissions you should be able to do it in the site that displays the ticket |
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<Harkins> |
ah, ya, I see it. thanks |
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<PlasmaHH> |
.oO( what was that? ) |
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<Guychi> |
Good evening. I know it's not a Trac issue par excellence, but is there a way for it to send notifications for changeset events? |
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<PlasmaHH> |
if you use svn, it shippes with a set of scripts you could use as an entry point for doing this |
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<pacopablo> |
any dev around? |
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<jborg> |
yeah |
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<pacopablo> |
so, looking at the roadmap, it's looking like sqlalchemy is going to get pushed back to 0.12, right? |
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<pacopablo> |
also, do you have idle postgres connections on t.e.o ? |
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<jborg> |
It might, we will probably not hold back the 0.11 release if the branch isn't ready for merge early next year. |
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<jborg> |
t.e.o has 9 idling postgresql connections for the trac env right now |
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<pacopablo> |
hmm, do you have any sites that use TRAC_ENV_PARENT_DIR ? |
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<jborg> |
no |
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<pacopablo> |
k |
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<pacopablo> |
I'm trying to trac down the postgres db leaks |
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<jborg> |
#4337? |
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<jborg> |
#4347 that is |
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<pacopablo> |
it doesn't seems to affect sites that use TRAC_ENV_PARENT_DIR more than those who don't |
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<pacopablo> |
@ticket 4347 |
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<evil_twin> |
pacopablo: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4347 |
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<pacopablo> |
yeah, basically |
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<jborg> |
yay: http://ftp.edgewall.com/pub/trac/trac-0.10.3rc1.tar.gz |
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<pacopablo> |
woohoo! |
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<jborg> |
yeah, the 0.10.3 is way overdue |
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<asmodai> |
jborg: that was fast ;) |
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<jborg> |
asmodai, yeah, I figured we really needed to release rc1 today in order to be able to release 0.10.3 next week. |
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<jborg> |
howdy cboos |
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<asmodai> |
jborg: but ehrm |
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<asmodai> |
jborg: According to a certain person teo should run -dev!!! |
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<asmodai> |
:P |
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<jborg> |
heh |
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<cboos> |
hello |
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<cboos> |
so jonas, what about making this much awaited 0.10.3 release? |
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<jborg> |
hmm, didn't you notice I just released 0.10.3rc1? |
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<cboos> |
no, just turned on my laptop ;) |
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<cboos> |
... so that's great ;) |
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<jborg> |
I figured we could release 0.10.3 proper early next week if nothing unexpected happens |
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<cboos> |
ah yes, seeing that mail now |
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<cboos> |
yes, but having a rc1 is already better than to tell people having to use the svn version. |
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<cboos> |
I've noticed that some people are not to keen doing that, don't know why ;) |
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<cboos> |
ah, jonas, can you retarget the open 0.10.3 tickets to 0.10.4 ? |
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<jborg> |
sure |
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<jborg> |
btw, can you build a win32 installed for rc1? |
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<cboos> |
ok |
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<cboos> |
ah, does someone has a 2.3 install to test the installer? cmlenz told me that he once had issues with an installer built by 2.4 when installing on 2.3 ... |
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<cboos> |
... and I only have 2.4 right now |
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<jborg> |
I've retargeted the tickets now, I hope I didn't mess up. |
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<cboos> |
from the roadmap, looks ok |
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<jborg> |
cboos, no problem, cmlenz can build an installed when he gets online. |
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<cboos> |
well, I'm just testing it right now... |
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<asmodai> |
ok |
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<asmodai> |
cboos: you're french right? |
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<cboos> |
alsatian even ;) |
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<asmodai> |
eh? |
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<asmodai> |
Alsace? *thinks* |
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<asmodai> |
mmm |
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<asmodai> |
The French are lucky with newsreaders like this: http://copiers-intl.com/regouteo/wall/00%20aM-Theuriau-01z35k.jpg |
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<asmodai> |
Melissa Theuriau++ |
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<cboos> |
? |
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<cboos> |
on tv you mean? |
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<asmodai> |
yea |
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<cboos> |
*media violation* |
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<cboos> |
medium |
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<asmodai> |
hahah |
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<cboos> |
i must say i don't like the way it is going |
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<cboos> |
i'm tired |
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<cboos> |
headache |
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<asmodai> |
What is going? |
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<cboos> |
;) quite easy to impersonate him, isn't it? |
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<asmodai> |
Oh duh |
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<asmodai> |
You were in character |
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<asmodai> |
cboos: offtopic vs ontopic |
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<cboos> |
yeah, beware of this slippery slope, we might as well end as internet zombies ;) |
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<cboos> |
next release codename: 'Mr. I.' |
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<cboos> |
quite good next to Zengia, trioxin, etc |
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<asmodai> |
Prednison? |
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<cboos> |
nah, that's innocuous |
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<cboos> |
asmodai: do you have python 2.3 by any chance (windows)? |
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<asmodai> |
Mmm, Not installed currently, 2.4 |
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<cboos> |
does anybody knows if the python.msi installer from python.org is enough for being able to do bdist_wininst, or do I rather need the activestate installer? |
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<asmodai> |
I do have 2.4 MSI installed |
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<cboos> |
... and it's enough for the bdist_wininst ? |
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<asmodai> |
dunno, how can I quickly test it for you? :) |
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<cboos> |
ok, will try anyway with python.org 235 |
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<Fatal_2> |
hmm.. coderanger mentioned i could resolve our issue with multiple usernames with same case.. but enabling 'ignore_auth_case' and deleting from the session table.. i download sqlite 3.3.8 for the sqlite.exe but it says 'file is encrypted or is not a database' when i run sqlite trac.db |
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<Fatal_2> |
s/but/buy |
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<Fatal_2> |
s/but/by even |
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<cboos> |
(about the installer) well, the trac-0.10.3rc1.win32.exe installer I built with 2.4 was able to install itself in 235 |
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<cboos> |
Fatal_2: well, you don't have a 338 database, probably a 331 or something |
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<cboos> |
what pysqlite version |
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<cboos> |
? |
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<Fatal_2> |
i believe its pysqlite 1.0.1? |
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<cboos> |
oops, then you even have 2.8.x ... |
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<cboos> |
you need a sqlite.exe (2.8.16 or 17 is the latest stable, I think) |
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<Fatal_2> |
right-o.. i'll grab 2.8.17 and try that |
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<cboos> |
... but later, best would be to upgrade, as explained there |
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<cboos> |
@wiki PySqlite |
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<evil_twin> |
cboos: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/PySqlite |
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<gordonjcp> |
bah, sqlite 3 caught me out there |
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<m_g> |
hey yo, anybody using discussion plugin? i wonder what would be needed to make the forum searchable from the Trac search box |
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<Fatal_2> |
cboos: cool 2.8.17 works.. so should i just delete the contents of the session table? or do something like 'update session set sid=lower(sid)' |
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<Fatal_2> |
gordonjcp: what happened for you? |
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<cboos> |
hm, if your users don't mind loosing their preferences (not much stored currently), the better delete from session; |
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<cboos> |
oh ho ... jborg? |
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<jborg> |
cboos, yes? |
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<gordonjcp> |
Fatal_2: I upgraded sqlite so I could use Django, and trac didn't like the sqlite2 db file any more |
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<gordonjcp> |
Fatal_2: not a biggie, just dump the sqlite2 file and import into sqlite3 |
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<cboos> |
I've got a little problem with 0.10.3rc1: I reinstalled everything in a fresh 2.3 install |
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<cboos> |
all ok, except I don't have the svn bindings, and then everythings stops due to the early resync attempt... |
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<cboos> |
but wait... I try commenting out the repository_dir ... |
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<cboos> |
ah, false alarm |
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<cboos> |
no, it works well now |
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<cboos> |
so -> built an installer with 2.4, tested it with 2.3 and 2.4, works fine |
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<cboos> |
should I upload it somewhere? |
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<jborg> |
can you put it somewhere where I can download it? |
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<cboos> |
well, not really, besides on trac ;) |
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<cboos> |
argh, maximum attachment file limit exceeded ;) |
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<cboos> |
Ok, I'll try to dig out my ftp account on neuf.fr |
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<cboos> |
... |
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<jborg> |
cboos, you can upload it to ftp.edgewall.com/incoming |
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<cboos> |
ok |
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<cboos> |
ok it's there (sorry for the delay, I had to install a ftp client) |
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<jborg> |
cool, thanks, I'll update the download page |
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<asmodai> |
cboos: filezilla |
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<cboos> |
yeah ;) |
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<asmodai> |
:) |
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<cboos> |
does it have any relationship to the other *zilla besides the name? the ui looks quite "native windows" |
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<Fatal_2> |
anybody anybody know if its possible to use the 'PythonOption TracLocale' with apache/windows? |
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<Fatal_2> |
aha.. yep it is.. i just needed to specify the locale differently... gotta love TracFaq |
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<cboos> |
uh jonas some clean up of the ftp server is needed: LATEST_IS_0_9 ;) |
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