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December 11, 2006

[00:41:18] <asmodai> Funnily enough the mailing lists seem more quiet now
[00:46:41] <coderanger> indeed
[00:48:26] <coderanger> hah
[00:48:34] <coderanger> http://search.gmane.org/?query=&author=lazaridis&group=&sort=date&DEFAULTOP=and&xFILTERS=Alazaridis---A
[00:48:51] <coderanger> Looks like he is bothering the distutils guy now
[00:50:54] * asmodai feels sorry
[00:50:59] <asmodai> holy shit
[00:51:10] <coderanger> yeah, if PJE was in #peak I would offer condolences
[00:51:24] <asmodai> He really does feel like a grasshopper
[00:51:32] <asmodai> jumping/flying from project to project and eating everything
[00:51:44] <asmodai> I must read-in(!) at absolute minimum just the "setup.py" file, without
[00:51:45] <asmodai> any includes.
[00:51:48] <coderanger> I think "locust" would be a better term
[00:51:49] <asmodai> o_O
[00:51:53] <asmodai> coderanger: ahhh right
[00:51:58] <asmodai> coderanger: Couldn't find the name ;)
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[00:52:07] <asmodai> coderanger: We call both 'sprinkhaan' in Dutch for all I know.
[00:52:20] <coderanger> asmodai: Yeah, I think they are the same bug
[00:52:29] <coderanger> just that locust implies pestilence
[00:52:43] <asmodai> And more voracity?
[00:52:48] <coderanger> biblical plagues and whatnot
[00:53:14] <asmodai> *nod*
[00:53:37] <coderanger> according to wikipedia, "locust" refers to the swarming phase of a certain family of grasshoppers
[00:53:39] <asmodai> Well locust is also used more to describe the plague of locusts that eat everything on their path, right?
[00:53:47] <asmodai> Ah
[00:53:49] <asmodai> ta
[00:54:14] <coderanger> in any case, I think it is insulting to any insect to compare them to him
[00:54:34] <asmodai> Ha!
[00:54:56] <asmodai> You know what is bizarre? He probably means well and probably also wants to get the projects further along.
[00:55:04] <asmodai> But he has such a bad way of delivering...
[00:55:52] <coderanger> I'm not sure I believe that anymore
[00:55:57] <coderanger> its too pointed
[00:56:02] <neuralis> sounds pretty intentionally trollish to me
[00:56:10] <coderanger> you don't repoen a ticket 3 times accidentally
[00:57:39] <asmodai> coderanger: I honestly have no clue what to believe anymore in this case.
[00:57:55] <coderanger> I believe that I have better things to worry about :)
[00:58:47] <asmodai> Ahh
[00:58:52] <asmodai> true true
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[01:22:34] <asmodai> heh, they removed the wikipage on him for the third time
[01:23:34] <asmodai> http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/138951 - rofl
[01:24:31] <asmodai> ah, but http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Ilias still exists
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[01:34:29] <asmodai> coderanger: you know, in a sense Trac gave him a highly effective gun with the easy to use wiki ;)
[01:34:41] <coderanger> heh
[01:34:53] <coderanger> if it wasn't Trac, it would have been something else though
[01:35:19] <coderanger> You can't stop crazy people from being crazy (s/crazy/<any adjective>/)
[01:36:11] <asmodai> Hey, I am crazy!
[01:36:12] <asmodai> :P
[01:36:33] <coderanger> youre good crazy though
[01:36:40] <coderanger> its a subtle difference
[01:37:56] <asmodai> Hahah
[01:38:23] <asmodai> I hope so ^^
[01:39:24] * asmodai works on more documentation
[01:43:08] <asmodai> guess my email to Chris about a small fix in the UPGRADE file for Genshi will have to wait till he gets back ^^
[01:45:28] <coderanger> interesting, on python.org Trac is listed before Roundup on the front page
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[01:48:16] <asmodai> ROFL
[01:48:47] <asmodai> Did they finally have their roundup working?
[01:49:10] <asmodai> nope, still sf.net
[01:54:28] <asmodai> coderanger: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.turbogears/20015/focus=21354
[01:57:20] <asmodai> oh crap
[01:57:49] <asmodai> Didn't work like that
[01:58:11] <asmodai> oh wel
[01:58:14] <asmodai> *writes docs*
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[02:39:30] <asmodai> coderanger: had you taken a look at the Django book's site comments?
[02:39:39] <coderanger> nope
[02:39:46] <asmodai> coderanger: http://www.djangobook.com/en/beta/chapter10/
[02:39:48] <asmodai> for example
[02:39:59] <asmodai> Just click on those text icons
[02:40:17] <coderanger> interesting
[02:40:18] <asmodai> I think that rocks ;)
[02:40:21] <coderanger> yeah
[02:40:32] <asmodai> Way better than all comments at the bottom of the page
[02:40:34] * coderanger makes a note to make a plugin
[02:40:38] <asmodai> e.g. PHP's docs
[02:40:46] <coderanger> yeah
[02:41:01] <coderanger> esp when using a wiki to develop "real" document
[02:41:05] <asmodai> They use some of Yahoo's UI javascript
[02:41:06] <asmodai> coderanger: *nod*
[02:41:17] <asmodai> coderanger: Good for solliciting feedback without having to edit the text in place.
[02:41:28] <coderanger> I have a good 4 weeks free coming up, I hope to get through a lot of my plugin backlog
[02:41:37] <asmodai> coderanger: I got 2 weeks next week :)
[02:41:51] <asmodai> coderanger: Hope to finally make some way with the ticketdelete stuff, FINALLY
[02:41:56] <coderanger> they kick us out of the dorms for xmas, so I have to go home like it or not
[02:42:08] <asmodai> hahaha
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[02:44:19] <otavio> Hello folks?
[02:44:42] <coderanger> alo
[02:44:48] <otavio> I need to know when is planned the 0.10.3 release? We're almost releasing Etch and I would like to include it there.
[02:45:00] <coderanger> next few days
[02:45:08] <coderanger> rc1 is out now
[02:45:10] * asmodai goes to augment his vim setup
[02:45:15] <asmodai> otavio: bom dia.
[02:45:17] <otavio> coderanger: yes, I know
[02:45:24] <otavio> asmodai: bom dia :-D
[02:46:39] <coderanger> otavio: I would ask trac-dev for a better answer
[02:46:43] <otavio> asmodai: how are you doing?
[02:47:30] <otavio> coderanger: usually I meet its devels here, that's why I came here to try ;-)
[02:48:23] <asmodai> otavio: tudo bem, e você?
[02:49:08] <otavio> asmodai: tudo bem tambem, I would prefer to talk with you in portuguese privatelly or in English here otherwise people won't understand us ;-)
[02:49:55] <asmodai> Hahah, my Portuguese is not what it used to be.
[02:50:18] <asmodai> Although when I was in São Paulo and Natal people constantly kept talking to me in Portuguese when I responded back in it. :)
[02:50:37] <otavio> hhehehe
[02:51:44] * asmodai probably looks too much like a gaucho
[02:52:39] <otavio> asmodai: I live on Rio Grande do Sul
[02:52:43] <otavio> asmodai: do you know here?
[02:53:52] <asmodai> Ah yea
[02:56:00] <otavio> Nice. When you have been here?
[02:58:46] <asmodai> Mmm, a while ago, in 2004 and 2005
[02:59:23] <otavio> Ah nice
[02:59:55] <asmodai> 2004 in Natal, 2005 in São Paulo to visit, my now, ex gf :)
[03:00:44] <otavio> ah
[03:00:47] * tessier_ is miffed with the Brazilian government for holding those pilots for several months. :(
[03:01:33] <asmodai> Complain to Lulu ;)
[03:02:04] <otavio> tessier_: but this wasn't wrong. They caused a very serious accident here and a lot of people died just because they decided to disable a aircraft detection system
[03:02:11] <otavio> asmodai: Lula
[03:02:36] <otavio> tessier_: but wasn't only their fault. There're some mistakes from Brazil side too
[03:02:46] <tessier_> otaku42: They didn't disable it.
[03:03:02] <tessier_> otavio: I'm a pilot. It is highly unlikely that those two caused the accident.
[03:03:10] <tessier_> Nor is it likely that the other pilots caused the accident.
[03:03:29] <tessier_> What good is a transponder when the vast majority of central and south America doesn't have radar coverage to pick it up anyway?
[03:03:49] <asmodai> otavio: eerrr, sim ;)
[03:04:17] <otavio> tessier_: but major of our country is covered, yes... but indeed, has a "blind zone" near of the accident area
[03:04:51] <tessier_> http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/193965-1.html
[03:05:03] <tessier_> Good writeup of the situation from a pilots point of view at that url.
[03:05:39] <tessier_> No pilot will arbitrarily decide to disable the transponder or the TCAS.
[03:05:55] * asmodai hugs snippetsemu.vim
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[03:16:32] <Narada> TRAC_ADMIN is the highest permission right?
[03:18:20] <coderanger> yes
[03:18:25] <coderanger> it has all permissions
[03:19:31] <Narada> k
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[03:40:59] <Narada> how did http://trac.edgewall.org/newticket get a severity drop down on new ticket? is that a hack for them?
[03:42:07] <Narada> never mind i found the answer
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[03:46:44] <Narada> is there a way to set a default assign-to person in the dropdown menu?
[03:46:53] <Narada> couldn't find this ini value anyway
[03:47:00] <Narada> *anywhere
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[03:53:23] <corp> ello
[03:53:39] <corp> anyone see this error using fcgi? Unhandled exception in thread started by <bound method Connection.run of <trac.web._fcgi.Connection object at 0xb68ac98c>>
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[06:18:25] <asmodai> mmm
[06:18:32] <asmodai> converter: what was that captcha cracking page again?
[06:18:35] <asmodai> err
[06:18:41] <asmodai> coderanger: what was that captcha cracking page again?
[06:19:01] <asmodai> ah found it
[06:19:02] <asmodai> http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/
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[06:31:54] <asperon> hi guys, i have been running the svn version of trac for close to six weeks, but today i found a problem with some date comparisons, so i decided to update. But now it seems as if the genshi support somehow is borken. i have tried to update to the latest trunk as well as the stable 0.3.x branch.
[06:32:00] <asperon> let me post the error to pastebin.com
[06:32:41] <asperon> wow its slow
[06:34:09] <asperon> anybody here? anybody running 0.11dev?
[06:37:40] <asperon> restarting apache solved it =)
[06:37:41] <asperon> sorry
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[06:40:13] <mnemoc> hi, there is _cvs_ support on trac?
[06:42:26] <mnemoc> plugin or something like that
[06:47:31] <mnemoc> ok, i found the ticket... wontfix
[06:47:50] <mnemoc> i'll try cvstrac :)
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[07:46:36] <Sweetshark> [Mon Dec 11 11:15:05 2006] [error] [client 10.0.0.164] PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend: TypeError: argument number 0: a 'apr_pool_t *' is expected, 'instance(<libsvn.core.GenericSWIGWrapper instance at 0xb5c5b80c>)' is received, referer: http://yaddayadda
[07:47:30] <Sweetshark> ^- any idea where this one is coming from? it segfaults the trac-child on my trac server ...
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[07:52:07] <__doc__> hi, a question. Is it possible to include something like the README of the repository on a wiki page as rst?
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[08:43:24] <jiji> hi
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[08:51:33] <coderanger> __doc__: MimeInclude macro
[08:52:12] <jiji> i have installed trac 0.10.2 stable version
[08:52:27] <jiji> and followed install instruction
[08:52:43] <jiji> but i have problems when i click on login
[08:53:32] <jiji> "Authentication information not available. Please refer to the installation documentation."
[08:54:27] <jiji> have u any idea?
[08:55:08] <otaku42> jiji: you mean other than the already mentioned "please refer to the installation documentation"?
[08:55:23] <jiji> yes
[08:55:28] <jiji> i have no more ideas
[08:55:38] <jiji> it drives me crazy
[08:55:40] <otaku42> jiji: did you refer to the installation documentation already?
[08:55:48] <jiji> yes many times
[08:56:10] <otaku42> jiji: did you try the mailing list archives, or google?
[08:56:16] <jiji> yes
[08:56:34] <__doc__> coderanger: thx
[08:57:22] <otaku42> jiji: do you use tracd, mod_python, cgi or fcgi, apache or lighttpd, ...?
[08:57:51] <jiji> tracd-mod_python_cgi
[08:57:54] <jiji> apache
[08:58:21] <otaku42> jiji: erm... tracd, mod_python and cgi are mutual exclusive
[08:58:33] <jiji> yes i have tried every one
[08:59:02] <jiji> i would like use mod_python
[08:59:03] <__doc__> hm I've a funny error
[08:59:13] <jiji> correctly
[08:59:38] <__doc__> when I go to a ticket view and try to assign a ticket to somebody, the dropdown only shows a subset of the users having permissions in the system
[09:00:28] <otaku42> jiji: seen http://www.mail-archive.com/trac-users@googlegroups.com/msg01764.html ?
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[09:05:21] <jiji> it doesn't solve
[09:05:57] <jiji> with mod_python how do u connect to site?
[09:05:59] <__doc__> found it
[09:06:12] <__doc__> when users have never logged in onto a trac they don't get added to the dropdowns
[09:06:15] <__doc__> is this intentional?
[09:06:20] <__doc__> hrm
[09:06:22] <__doc__> probably is
[09:06:39] <otaku42> jiji: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython
[09:06:49] <otaku42> jiji: and what do you mean by "how do u connect to the site"?
[09:07:25] <jiji> that is my configuration for mod_python
[09:07:41] <jiji> but with a simple localhost:8000/
[09:07:46] <jiji> i get nothing
[09:07:58] <jiji> i got anything just with tracd
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[09:54:01] <Arc> does anyone know why our trac site would suddenly break, complaining about unicode errors and ordinals being out of range?
[09:55:00] <Arc> ie, on the reports, "Report execution failed: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 9999-10001: invalid data"
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[10:54:40] <pacopablo> morning all
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[12:13:32] <rizwank> Is there a good way of having user-groups in Trac? We're currently using htdigest authentication with TracAccountManager 0.1.3dev-r1559...
[12:15:47] <Miek> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions#PermissionGroups ?
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[12:21:11] <rizwank> oh!
[12:21:24] <rizwank> if I add them this way, am I likely to break accountamanger/webadmin?
[12:22:01] <pacopablo> no
[12:22:15] <pacopablo> that's what the groups stuff in webadmin is for
[12:22:42] <asmodai> One thing that amazes me about people using svn
[12:22:50] <asmodai> is how they are using branches for trunk development
[12:23:03] <asmodai> and then later on merge everything to trunk, which seems a bit counterintuitive
[12:23:36] <pacopablo> asmodai: I think the idea is to try to keep trunk as stable as possible
[12:24:20] <asmodai> Which in a sense is silly.
[12:24:21] <rizwank> pacopablo, I don't see any group stuff in WebAdmin (or does WebAdmin support setting up groups, but not for making them..?)
[12:24:25] <asmodai> Use a branch: stable
[12:24:33] <asmodai> set that to the last known good version
[12:24:38] <asmodai> and keep trunk as main development
[12:24:49] <teh_medic> Miek?
[12:25:01] <asmodai> And add additional branches for sub-development as needed.
[12:25:12] <asmodai> branch stable could also be read as tag stable, same thing in svn anyway
[12:26:23] <Miek> yes?
[12:26:42] <teh_medic> just thought that could be you
[12:26:48] <teh_medic> this is bakasan :)
[12:27:00] <Miek> heh, hi
[12:27:44] <teh_medic> good to see ya
[12:28:18] <asmodai> bakasan? mister idiot, got to love using such a name on IRC
[12:28:20] <asmodai> :P
[12:28:27] <teh_medic> :)
[12:29:04] <Arc> can someone help me with our trac site that seems to have spontaniously stopped working?
[12:29:15] <Arc> bouncing errors about unicode violations and ascii codec stuff
[12:29:27] <asmodai> Arc: updated python by chance?
[12:29:37] <Arc> asmodai: no, no changes on the server.
[12:29:44] <Arc> it just "stopped working"
[12:29:48] <asmodai> ok, that's curious then
[12:29:58] <Arc> pysoy.org is where the errors are at
[12:30:16] <asmodai> awww, cute logo :)
[12:30:25] <asmodai> Arc: where do you see the error?
[12:30:42] <Arc> click on any report, on the login, etc
[12:30:58] <Arc> Report execution failed: 'utf8' codec can't decode bytes in position 9999-10001: invalid data
[12:31:08] <asmodai> ah see it
[12:31:30] <asmodai> cute, google already indexed you guys with this error
[12:31:35] * asmodai rolls eyes
[12:31:44] <Arc> yea google indexes our site daily
[12:31:56] <Arc> i run sitemaps
[12:32:08] * gordonjcp gets hit by yahoo slurp! about six times a day!
[12:32:20] <asmodai> ok
[12:32:23] <asmodai> best I can make it
[12:32:32] <asmodai> you have some strange characters in a ticket subject
[12:33:24] <asmodai> I wonder why that tutorial link has a %20 btw, the link doesn't work for me ;)
[12:33:25] <Arc> i think i know which one, its the same one i couldnt delete, a spam
[12:33:46] <Arc> ah thats because i upgraded the tags module and suddenly its behavior for links changed. i havent changed it back yet
[12:33:59] <asmodai> I just wonder how they managed to create a botched subject since it should be stored in utf-8
[12:34:08] <asmodai> Arc: tried through trac-admin's ticket delete?
[12:34:19] <Arc> yea that bounces an error
[12:34:23] <asmodai> O_O
[12:34:25] <asmodai> That's bad
[12:34:48] <asmodai> what's the error?
[12:35:37] <Miek> are you using sqlite?
[12:36:40] <Arc> postgres
[12:36:59] <Arc> the error that it bounces is the same as you see on the web
[12:37:05] <Arc&