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December 12, 2006

[00:22:33] <asmodai> morning!
[00:22:40] <asmodai> Arc: managed to fix the problem?
[00:23:58] <Arc> the problem of the save button not appearing on edit pages? nope
[00:24:02] <Arc> the ticket problem, yes
[00:24:16] <Arc> (its one thing after another here)
[00:26:30] <asmodai> The ticket.
[00:26:36] <asmodai> Good to know that was easily solved.
[00:27:06] <Arc> yea psql manual commands cleared it up
[00:27:11] <asmodai> I never had problems upgrading Trac, then again, I use like 3 plugins.
[00:27:19] <Arc> we use like 3 plugins too
[00:27:38] <Arc> im stuck now with every page being immutable because the edit pages are getting cut off just after it defines the comment area
[00:27:46] <Arc> not even valid xml
[00:29:56] <coderanger> asmodai: Is there a way to horizontally center an <h2> inside a <form>?
[00:32:01] <et> coderanger: in html/css?
[00:32:06] <coderanger> yeah
[00:32:30] <et> <h2 style="text-align: center">
[00:32:38] <coderanger> tried that, didn't work
[00:32:56] <coderanger> http://coderanger.net/tracs/consultant
[00:33:03] <coderanger> log in with user1/password
[00:34:55] <et> i only see align=center there
[00:35:07] <coderanger> check the CSS above
[00:35:32] <et> uhm
[00:35:40] <et> you got display:inline there
[00:35:45] <et> of course it doesn't work
[00:36:22] <coderanger> the layout gets grumpy if it is set to block
[00:36:49] <coderanger> look now
[00:37:17] <et> if you want it to be inline, you have to set text-align=center in the surrounding block element
[00:37:33] <Arc> did you try setting the left and right margin to 1px each?
[00:37:38] <coderanger> hrmm
[00:39:24] <coderanger> still looks wrong
[00:39:34] <coderanger> now it is aligned to the other side for some reason
[00:40:01] <Arc> what CSS are you using exactly?
[00:40:08] <coderanger> "a lot"
[00:40:21] <coderanger> this is someone else's template that I am trying to bash Trac into
[00:41:15] <Arc> if the left and right margins are the same, it should try to split the difference
[00:41:16] <lisppaste5> coderanger pasted "CSS on the <h2>" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/32118
[00:41:31] <Arc> so prehaps elsewhere its setting the left margin to something higher?
[00:42:41] <et> (also, it's semantically wrong to use h2 there. "Logged in as..." isn't really a headline)
[00:42:50] <Arc> where exactly are you doing the 1px trick?
[00:43:03] <Arc> you need it 1, not 0
[00:43:07] <Arc> 1px;
[00:43:36] <coderanger> Yes, it is in the <h2>'s class
[00:43:53] <coderanger> et: I am aware, but I am not trying to rewrite this whole thing right now
[00:43:55] <Arc> i dont see 1px anywhere in that paste
[00:44:00] <coderanger> Arc: I just added it
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[00:44:16] <Arc> did you add it before or after the margin-left-value: 0px; part?
[00:44:27] <lisppaste5> coderanger annotated #32118 with "new CSS" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/32118#1
[00:44:49] <wkornewald> hi, does anyone host Trac on Dreamhost and could you please tell me if it's very fast? does anyone have a link to a few Trac instances (hopefully with high load)?
[00:45:10] <wkornewald> and what about WebFaction as a comparison? I mean, a paid WebFaction account
[00:45:56] <Arc> and i believe that it should be margin-right: 1px; i dont know whats up with that -value stuff
[00:46:21] <Arc> wkornewald: dreamhost is incredibly slow. they overload their servers or bottleneck the cpu available to each client
[00:46:30] <Arc> wkornewald: it doesnt matter what you're running.
[00:46:48] <wkornewald> Arc: we had such a problem once we hosted on Dreamhost
[00:46:57] <wkornewald> does anyone know about WebFaction?
[00:47:00] <Arc> wkornewald: i tried running moin on their server, slow as hell. same with django
[00:47:15] <wkornewald> Arc: we have to decide between a paid account and the free for non-profits dreamhost account
[00:47:22] <coderanger> Arc: in the file it is just "margin: 1px;". That output is from FX web developer toolbar
[00:47:33] <wkornewald> Arc: on "their" server: Dreamhost, you mean?
[00:47:40] <Arc> wkornewald: yes.
[00:47:47] <Arc> coderanger: use a text editor :-P
[00:48:01] <coderanger> Arc: You can see all the CSS in the file ...
[00:48:11] <Arc> try it by hand.
[00:48:23] <coderanger> Arc: I am editing this all by hand
[00:48:30] <wkornewald> anyone else having made bad experience with Dreamhost?
[00:48:37] <Arc> then edit the margin-left-value: to be margin-left:
[00:49:02] <coderanger> Arc: It isnt "margin-left-value" in the CSS, that is how FX parses it in memory
[00:49:17] <coderanger> in the definition it is "margin: 1px;"
[00:49:56] <Arc> you want it margin-left: 1px; margin-right: 1px;
[00:50:04] <Arc> also "auto" works
[00:50:19] <Arc> i dont know this "FX" you speak of.
[00:50:28] <coderanger> FX == Firefox
[00:51:06] <coderanger> As expected, that is no different
[00:51:07] <Arc> ah.
[00:51:14] <Arc> i dont know what to tell you then.
[00:51:23] <Arc> something else in your CSS must be munging it
[00:51:30] <Arc> or something in your layout, prehaps?
[00:51:47] <Arc> is your <h2> the first thing on a line by itself?
[00:51:51] <coderanger> very possible
[00:51:55] <Arc> /anything/ to the left of it will push it to the right
[00:51:58] <Arc> or vice versa
[00:52:23] <coderanger> It is the only thing in its div, and the div is the right size (taking up the whole form)
[00:52:25] <Arc> use the dom explorer to see what the page looks like
[00:52:40] <Arc> is there a line break between the div and the h2?
[00:52:55] <coderanger> no
[00:53:07] <coderanger> just look at the HTML ...
[00:53:09] <coderanger> its all there
[00:53:29] <Arc> so you have a <div style="width=100%"><h2 style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;">Testing</h2></div>
[00:54:51] <coderanger> if I were to expand it out <div style="text-align: center; margin: auto; padding auto;"><h2 style="margin: auto;">"
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[00:57:00] <coderanger> aha
[00:57:01] <coderanger> got it
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[00:57:12] <coderanger> a left padding from elsewhere in the CSS
[00:58:30] <Arc> see
[00:58:37] <Arc> http://planet.pysoy.org/test.html
[00:58:48] <coderanger> Arc: It is working now
[00:58:53] <coderanger> http://coderanger.net/tracs/consultant
[00:58:54] <Arc> cool.
[00:59:01] <coderanger> wasn't related to margins at all
[00:59:29] <Arc> the DOM explorer is always your friend ;-)
[00:59:53] <Arc> wow, thats a beautiful trac site
[01:00:17] <coderanger> Arc: firebug ftw
[01:00:42] <et> the trac contents don't really fit though
[01:00:52] <coderanger> et: Still working on it
[01:01:07] <coderanger> This template was clearly made by a non-developer
[01:01:15] <Arc> yea
[01:01:18] <Arc> still beautiful.
[01:01:21] <coderanger> getting it to work with dynamic content has been annoying
[01:01:25] <Arc> i like the sidebar
[01:01:32] <asmodai> Firebug++
[01:01:51] <asmodai> Especially with the AJAX support and such they added
[01:02:07] <Arc> can anyone help me with my missing save button?
[01:02:26] <coderanger> Arc: Does tracd work?
[01:02:40] <Arc> tracd?
[01:02:48] <coderanger> @wiki TracStandalone
[01:02:48] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracStandalone
[01:02:57] <Arc> im not using trac standalone, im using it with apache
[01:03:43] <coderanger> Arc: Try tracd ...
[01:03:55] <coderanger> see if it is a problem in trac or apache
[01:04:10] <Arc> um, don't we know the problem is in trac?
[01:04:19] <coderanger> Arc: How would we know that
[01:04:23] <Arc> apache isnt going to be doing the same thing on every page
[01:04:50] <Arc> and this behavior is after upgrading to 0.10.2
[01:04:55] <coderanger> unless it is apache that is choking on something in page
[01:05:04] <Arc> why would apache choke on data?
[01:05:57] <coderanger> no idea
[01:06:17] <coderanger> are you using fcgi or mod_python
[01:06:27] <coderanger> with fcgi it may be a glitch in the socket too
[01:06:35] <Arc> mod_python
[01:06:44] <wkornewald> is mod_python faster than fcgi?
[01:06:54] <Arc> ok so the problem isnt showing up in /wiki/PySoy/Layers
[01:06:56] <wkornewald> what's the difference?
[01:07:17] <Arc> mod_python is integrated as a apache module, fastcgi is a hack
[01:07:24] <coderanger> wkornewald: No difference
[01:07:27] <coderanger> its a matter of chose
[01:07:35] <coderanger> Arc: How is FCGI a hack?
[01:07:50] <coderanger> its just another daemon that runs the app
[01:07:56] * asmodai likes his fcgi with lighttpd
[01:08:06] <Arc> oh thats great
[01:08:21] <coderanger> yeah, Apache wasn't designed with dynamic apps in mind, so the config syntax is a bit gross
[01:08:29] <Arc> now its working fine for PySoy/* but WikiStart still has the bug and trying to edit /wiki/ArcRiley produces an internal server error
[01:08:31] <coderanger> but it isn't because of fcgi
[01:08:43] <coderanger> Arc: Anything in the error log for the ISE?
[01:09:17] <Arc> yes, lots
[01:09:31] <coderanger> pastebin?
[01:09:34] <coderanger> lisppaste5: url
[01:09:34] <lisppaste5> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste.
[01:11:28] <lisppaste5> Arc pasted "edit bug?" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/32121
[01:12:16] <coderanger> you have been struck by the #2611 of doooooom!!!
[01:12:29] <coderanger> its a race condition in subversion
[01:12:35] <Arc> @2611 of doom?
[01:12:35] <evil_twin> Arc: Error: "2611" is not a valid command.
[01:12:47] <coderanger> do you have multiple trac vhosts?
[01:12:49] <Arc> but this has nothing to do with subversion, this is a wikipage
[01:12:54] <Arc> coderanger: no
[01:13:04] <Arc> well yes, but not on the same subversion server
[01:13:08] <Arc> and not in active use
[01:13:15] <coderanger> Arc: But on the same apache server?
[01:13:19] <Arc> yes
[01:13:22] <coderanger> yep
[01:13:23] <coderanger> #2611
[01:13:28] <Arc> url?
[01:13:50] <coderanger> in each vhost put "PythonInterpreter trac" at the base of the trac (like <Location />
[01:13:51] <Arc> and way to fix it?
[01:13:59] <coderanger> @ticket 2611
[01:13:59] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2611
[01:15:01] <Arc> next to PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend ?
[01:15:02] <coderanger> there are some other solutions in the comments, but that is the one most people have found to work
[01:15:10] <coderanger> Arc: under it, but sure
[01:16:12] <Arc> what exactly does that line do?
[01:16:20] <Arc> tell it to use "trac" as a python interpreter?!
[01:16:29] <coderanger> forces all vhosts to use a single python interpreter
[01:16:42] <Arc> ok
[01:16:43] <coderanger> instead of the default of one interpreter per location
[01:16:53] <coderanger> trac is just a string name, it could be anything
[01:18:15] <Arc> ok now I can edit /wiki/ArcRiley
[01:18:23] <Arc> but /wiki/WikiStart can still not be saved.
[01:18:38] <coderanger> anything in the log now?
[01:19:02] <Arc> nothing new
[01:19:20] <Arc> the two issues seem unrelated
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[01:22:10] <Arc> i seem to remember making WikiStart editable only by those in the admin group (which i am)
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[01:24:14] <asmodai> coderanger: http://arxiv.org/ftp/cs/papers/0608/0608111.pdf
[01:25:19] <coderanger> Arc: Is it a very long page?
[01:25:53] <Arc> it is http://pysoy.org/
[01:25:54] <coderanger> asmodai: cool
[01:26:00] <Arc> i set the page read-only. yes.
[01:26:34] <Arc> the same problem is appearing on my personal page, too, which is also read-only
[01:27:11] <Arc> it seems every page set read-only stops sending the page when it hits the section that sets wether or not the page is read-only
[01:27:12] <coderanger> Arc: The best I can tell you at this point is to file a ticket
[01:27:19] <coderanger> I gotta get some sleep, its 4.5 AM over here
[01:27:30] <Arc> same here (upstate ny)
[01:27:35] <coderanger> where?
[01:27:41] <coderanger> I'm outside of Albany
[01:27:44] <Arc> ithaca
[01:27:49] <Arc> rpi is rome isnt it?
[01:27:54] <coderanger> Troy
[01:28:09] <Arc> yea then howdy neighbor :-)
[01:29:07] <Arc> maybe you know this - is there a way to manually set a page as writable in psql?
[01:29:50] <Arc> ah nevermind, setting it as read-only again repeats the problem. ive done so in 4 pages now
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[01:30:09] <Arc> have a good night
[01:30:11] <coderanger> update wiki set readonly=1 where name="pagename";
[01:30:39] <Arc> wouldnt it be update wiki set readonly=0 where readonly=1;?
[01:30:44] <Arc> to set them all writable?
[01:31:38] <coderanger> yeah
[01:31:46] <Arc> ok
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[04:57:25] <manuzhai> anyone else having problems with the browser in the latest trunk?
[05:01:47] <m_g> does anybody know a plugin for managing custom fields?
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[05:18:47] <manuzhai> btw, I like the current rev: 4444
[05:28:02] <cilkay> Rather than presenting the projects list or a custom page in http://mydomain/projects, what do you think of just presenting an authentication dialog to the user?
[05:28:35] <cilkay> Once the user authenticates, then what? I suppose he should see the list of projects in which he is a participant.
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[05:30:37] <cilkay> Is this feasible?
[05:32:15] <manuzhai> the current code just displays all of the projects
[05:32:36] <manuzhai> you can do the auth before shoing the project list
[05:32:43] <manuzhai> but it'll still display all of the projects
[05:33:11] <cilkay> That's why the docs have that hack to hide the list of projects in the root.
[05:33:33] <cilkay> Wonder what, if anything, DrProject does differently.
[05:33:57] * cilkay checking
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[05:52:03] <__doc__> any idea if there is an addcomment and page2pdf macro/plugin for trac 11dev?
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[06:10:57] <manuzhai> argh, Pygments is just not working for me
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[06:11:41] <jiji> hi
[06:11:57] <jiji> how is it possible disable timeline tickets etc. from main navbar?
[06:12:19] <jiji> i have added in trac.ini [components]
[06:12:34] <jiji> and example trac.timiline.* = disabled
[06:12:49] <jiji> trac.ticket.* = disabled etc
[06:12:54] <jiji> but it doesn't work
[06:13:05] <__doc__> jiji: just remove the rights to view the timeline etc. from
[06:13:35] <jiji> ok
[06:13:47] <jiji> is this the only way to make a wiki-only with trac?
[06:14:46] <__doc__> only way that worked for me
[06:14:51] * __doc__ also tried the disable thing
[06:16:04] <jiji> ok thank you very much
[06:18:30] <jiji> is it working this: trac-admin /var/www/trac/docs/ permission remove anonymous * ???
[06:18:52] <jiji> i want just a single user like wiki_admin and no anonymous
[06:19:04] <jiji> add username WIKI_ADMIN
[06:19:16] <__doc__> jiji: try it, though I think you'll have to remove the rights individually
[06:19:23] <__doc__> jiji: I'd recommend the web-admin
[06:19:41] <jiji> i tried it but it didn't work for me
[06:20:13] <jiji> web-admin?
[06:20:42] <__doc__> jiji: do you use trac 1.0?
[06:20:51] <jiji> trac 0.10.2
[06:20:59] <__doc__> ya
[06:21:01] <__doc__> that :)
[06:21:06] <__doc__> sry
[06:21:12] <__doc__> there's a plugin
[06:21:32] <__doc__> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin
[06:21:39] <jiji> yes i have installed it but not used again
[06:21:46] <jiji> tell me about it:)
[06:21:57] <__doc__> you can administrate the permissions there
[06:22:22] <jiji> ok i'll try it
[06:25:41] <jiji> nice it works:)
[06:25:49] <cilkay> I'm reading this: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython and wondering where the <LocationMatch "/.+/"> directive is supposed to go. Is it supposed to replace the <Location /projects> directive just above it?
[06:26:33] <cilkay> If so, I've done that but I still see a directory listing of projects, which I don't want.
[06:30:27] <cilkay> How do you prevent a directory listing of projects?
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[06:39:57] <Crhysalis> hi, I'm trying to install genshi on gentoo so I can use the current trunk
[06:40:10] <Crhysalis> Is there a package on gentoo for it? I couldn't find it..
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[06:46:14] <manuzhai> Crhysalis: just get easy_install
[06:46:20] <manuzhai> it solves so many problems
[06:47:24] <cilkay> And creates some new ones. e.g. now you have a bunch of code that is no longer managed by your distro's package manager.
[06:47:53] <manuzhai> well, yeah
[06:47:53] <misc> well new problem are a exicting journey :)
[06:48:07] <manuzhai> but at least all the python packages are just in site-packages :P
[06:48:43] <cilkay> Yes, but Trac puts stuff in places besides site-packages, for example.
[06:49:13] <manuzhai> it does if you actually install it
[06:49:23] <manuzhai> but I use it from a svn checkout :P
[06:50:13] <cilkay> Maybe we should create a distro where "svn" is *the* package manager :)
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[06:50:46] <cilkay> "svn update distro" and you're done
[06:50:53] <misc> cilkay: a big repository, with lots of svn:external
[06:51:00] <manuzhai> blegh, that would SUCK
[06:51:19] <misc> and using trac instead of nautilus/konqueror
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[07:02:01] <blinx> hm my admin section is damaged:
[07:02:06] <blinx> http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5159/tracscreenydg2.png
[07:03:30] <blinx> how can I remove trac with the setup.py?
[07:05:40] <cilkay> I have <LocationMatch "/.+/"> so that I won't get a listing of sub directories in my projects location. When I enter mysite.com/projects, I get a 404, which is what I'd expect. When I enter mysite/projects/ (with the trailing slash), I still get the sub directory listing. How can I prevent the sub directories from being listed?
[07:11:48] <m_g> uhm, i get this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ckjPXj39.html while trying to attach a file to a ticket. anybody an idea?
[07:12:35] <manuzhai> blinx: I don't think you can remove trac using setup.py
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[07:16:59] <blinx> manuzhai: done
[07:17:03] <corp> hello
[07:17:08] <corp> i'm trying to use tracd
[07:17:10] <corp> with the -s option
[07:17:10] <blinx> manuzhai: I reinstalled webadmin from svn
[07:17:16] <corp> but it returns nothing
[07:17:33] <corp> when i point the browser at the port it's running on
[07:17:58] <blinx> manuzhai: can you make a screenshot of your admin section?
[07:18:32] <blinx> o
[07:18:44] <blinx> the demo on hosted-projects.org helps me
[07:19:32] <blinx> manuzhai: in my trac the part General -> Basic Settings is missing
[07:19:37] <m_g> coderanger, you? :)
[07:19:47] <blinx> I have there only the "Ticket System"
[07:20:03] <m_g> blinx, do you have TRAC_ADMIN?
[07:21:37] <blinx> yes
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[07:22:31] <kop_> corp: what does your tracd command line look like, including all params?
[07:22:42] <corp> nevermind - got it working
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[07:54:08] <blinx> http://pylucid.net/trac/wiki
[07:54:09] <blinx> hm
[07:54:12] <blinx> what can I do?
[07:54:17] <boorad> coderanger: any thought to the theme plugins we talked about the other day?
[07:54:22] <blinx> I have mysql
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[07:55:55] <mitsuhiko> blinx: use apache or read the lighttpd docs
[07:56:46] <blinx> hm
[07:57:05] <blinx> what is the error/where I have to search?
[07:57:53] <blinx> trac can't upgrade mysql dbs, so lighty isn't the problem
[08:26:52] <m_g> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ckjPXj39.html i get this error every time i try to attach a file. i don't know when this problem started, but it has worked before. anybody an idea?
[08:37:31] <seemant> hmm, I know this is a stupid config thing, but I can't figure out what it is: I have a trac repo listing at http://localhost/trac but if I pick one, it takes me to the listing again, and then I pick again
[08:37:47] <seemant> ie, it's not http://localhost/trac/skool, but rather http://localhost/trac/skool/skool
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[08:38:12] <cilkay> I'm trying to prevent directory listings. My config is here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/0mk2c329.html
[08:38:41] <cilkay> Why am I still able to get a listing of projects when I enter mysite/projects/ ?
[08:45:53] <seemant> ah excellent that worked
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[08:46:03] <seemant> cilkay: are you sure your location thingy is correct?
[08:56:37] <cilkay> seemant: which location thingy?
[08:57:39] <seemant> the business on line 9
[08:57:47] <seemant> I dunno much about apache config, I'm just guessing
[08:59:02] <cilkay> seemant: that's straight out of the Trac docs.
[08:59:59] <seemant> oh
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[09:20:48] <corp> anyone know if tracd auth will work through a proxy?
[09:22:19] <pacopablo> should
[09:22:32] <pacopablo> as long as your proxy isn't stripping that info
[09:24:59] <corp> hmm. well how can i check
[09:25:07] <corp> should /login prompt me if it works/
[09:25:31] <corp> ah, even hitting the port directly doesnt do it
[09:25:35] <pacopablo> try <LocationMatch "/projects/.+/">
[09:25:38] <corp> is there some auth config in the trac.ini i need?
[09:25:46] <corp> pacopablo: ?
[09:25:58] <pacopablo> corp: what's the command line that you're using to run tracd?
[09:26:08] <corp> tracd with with -a option
[09:26:21] <pacopablo> paste the line in here
[09:26:32] <pacopablo> my guess is that you're not using the -a option correctly
[09:26:43] <pacopablo> that, or your browser doesn't support digest auth
[09:26:57] <corp> /usr/bin/tracd -d -s -p 3050 --pidfile=/var/trac/mootools/run.3050 --protocol=http -a /var/trac/mootools,/var/trac/mootools/conf/htdigest,mootools /var/trac/mootools
[09:27:03] <pacopablo> though the latter is not likely if you use a halfway recent browser
[09:27:10] <corp> ah, i see the realm is messed up there
[09:27:49] <corp> wait, no it's not
[09:27:57] <corp> should be fine
[09:28:04] <pacopablo> what's the realm that you have in your digest file?
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