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December 13, 2006

[00:07:07] <_shawn> if I'm installing a new trac instance for a new project, which version should I use today?
[00:07:22] <coderanger> 0.10.3
[00:07:27] <_shawn> thanks
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[00:09:12] <Niels-> Hello
[00:13:19] <Niels-> I'm using trac 0.10.2 with mod_python on Apache 2.0.52 bt i've a "cache" problem
[00:13:40] <Niels-> In fact, when I commit a file, I need to restart apache to see the new revision on trac
[00:13:47] <coderanger> upgrade to 0.10.3
[00:13:53] <coderanger> known bug
[00:14:00] <Niels-> oh ok =)
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[00:45:38] <asmodai> coderanger: ACK
[00:46:05] <coderanger> asmodai: Do you have that pydotorg style you did for trac shomewhere?
[00:47:29] <asmodai> should have, gimme a sec
[00:47:31] <asmodai> only the css?
[00:47:40] <coderanger> anything that needed to be changed
[00:47:59] <coderanger> I am working on a theme system using plugins, so the more examples I have to work with the better :)
[00:48:47] <asmodai> coderanger: http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/python-style.css
[00:49:11] <coderanger> were there any template changes?
[00:49:28] <asmodai> mmm, yes, checking more
[00:50:48] <asmodai> trac.ini needs:
[00:50:53] <asmodai> [header_logo]
[00:50:53] <asmodai> src = http://www.python.org/images/python-logo.gif
[00:50:53] <asmodai> alt = homepage
[00:50:53] <asmodai> height = 71
[00:50:53] <asmodai> link = http://www.python.org/
[00:50:55] <asmodai> width = 211
[00:51:22] <asmodai> I only changed site_css.cs to
[00:51:24] <asmodai> @import url(/style.css);
[00:51:24] <evil_twin> asmodai: Error: "import" is not a valid command.
[00:51:33] <coderanger> cool
[00:51:36] * __off__ is now known as __doc__
[00:55:20] <coderanger> I should make some kind of interface for setting header logo
[01:03:32] <coderanger> asmodai: http://www.coderanger.net/tracs/test1
[01:03:49] <coderanger> from http://coderanger.net/~coderanger/trac/plugins/pydotorgtheme/pydotorgtheme/theme.py
[01:03:51] <coderanger> :)
[01:07:20] <asmodai> There's still a few nits that need to be resolved
[01:07:28] <asmodai> but it should give a good idea of the possibilities.
[01:07:32] <coderanger> yeah
[01:07:44] <asmodai> e.g. go to view tickets
[01:07:48] <asmodai> there's a 1 pixel jump
[01:07:59] <asmodai> Due to the on-hover addition of a line
[01:08:05] <coderanger> heh
[01:08:32] * asmodai knows way more about CSS then back then
[01:09:27] <coderanger> works pretty well from the bundle though
[01:09:55] <asmodai> I still think we ought to have scored better with that in the tracker for python call ;)
[01:10:21] <coderanger> heh, maybe we can wow them at pycon or something
[01:10:28] <coderanger> the roundup site still isn't up
[01:10:47] <asmodai> Was the roundup server something they were doing themselves or the third party?
[01:11:47] <coderanger> hosted externally but run by community volunteers
[01:11:56] <asmodai> ah ok
[01:12:03] <asmodai> well, so much for that volunteer effort ;)
[01:12:19] <asmodai> I need to install some bugzilla instances and test the conversion script
[01:12:31] <asmodai> for more recent versions
[01:12:38] <coderanger> time to make a nice gui for themeengine :)
[01:12:44] <asmodai> :)
[01:13:09] * asmodai hugs snippetsEmu for vim
[01:13:59] <coderanger> anyone else online have a theme they want to contribute to the pile? :)
[01:14:25] <asmodai> I need to make one that will fit in for http://kouyou.tendra.org/
[01:14:32] <asmodai> Already have some ideas.
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[02:11:04] <Niels-> http://preview.dotclear.net/ ? :)
[02:18:20] <coderanger> Niels-: Yours?
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[02:37:48] <Niels-> No sorry, I'm just using it
[02:38:26] <coderanger> heh, looks nice
[02:39:34] <Niels-> yup
[02:50:01] <asmodai> coderanger: you using the compressed jquery or the uncompressed?
[02:50:15] <coderanger> asmodai: Uncompressed for right now
[02:50:19] <coderanger> easier to develop with
[02:50:36] <coderanger> I should switch some of them over to packed though
[02:51:42] <asmodai> coderanger: Ah ok, going to start with uncompressed first myself as well
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[03:10:30] <qk> Hi, is there any plugin for authenticate users using remote radius server ? or maybe symilar plugin that i can rewrite to use radius ?
[03:12:06] <coderanger> mod_auth_radius?
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[03:25:58] <qk> coderanger: hm.. currently i'm using trac without apache.. but it can be solution.
[03:26:22] <coderanger> qk: If you are comfortable with Python you could make an accountmanager plugin
[03:26:45] <coderanger> asmodai: http://www.coderanger.net/tracs/test1/admin/general/theme
[03:26:59] <coderanger> (login with user1/password)
[03:27:06] <coderanger> jquery ftw!
[03:27:35] <asmodai> oh nifty
[03:27:41] <asmodai> holy moly
[03:27:43] <asmodai> nice scroll
[03:28:13] <coderanger> Thats the jcarousel plugin
[03:28:22] <asmodai> hahaha
[03:28:28] <asmodai> the use this theme is cool
[03:28:52] <coderanger> I need to add screenshots for the others
[03:29:13] <asmodai> But nicely done dude.
[03:29:14] <coderanger> but the basics all work
[03:29:27] <asmodai> *nods* and well too
[03:30:29] <coderanger> hopefully we can get a good trac theme community going
[03:31:00] <asmodai> I am sure it will.
[03:31:05] <asmodai> the plugin stuff also goes well
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[03:53:13] <qk> hm, i have one question: i have TracWebAdmin and Account Manager Plugin, but i can't see "Accounts" link in "Administration" tab, what can be wrong ?
[03:53:36] <coderanger> qk: What version of each?
[03:53:53] <qk> TracAccountManager 0.1.2
[03:54:02] <qk> TracWebAdmin 0.1.2dev-r4429
[03:55:00] <coderanger> check the log for errors
[03:58:58] <qk> coderanger: everything looks ok in logs... i'll try some thing, reinstall etc.
[04:01:09] <cilkay> I just came acros http://trac-hacks.org/ What a treasure trove. I can see the potential for Trac to go in new directions, e.g. as a CMS.
[04:01:49] <coderanger> cilkay: Working on it ;-)
[04:02:13] <coderanger> there is already some of the begginings
[04:02:17] <coderanger> the blog plugin
[04:02:19] <coderanger> forums
[04:02:27] <coderanger> I think there is a gallery plugin
[04:02:41] <cilkay> How feasible would it be to integrate something like Django with Trac?
[04:02:48] <coderanger> Very not
[04:02:59] <coderanger> they use very different models
[04:03:13] <coderanger> you could make it look like they were integrated though
[04:03:15] <cilkay> I know Django but nothing about Trac development.
[04:03:32] <coderanger> http://code.djangoproject.com/
[04:03:34] <coderanger> ;-)
[04:03:47] <cilkay> Yes, that's not quite what I had in mind.
[04:03:53] <asmodai> mmm
[04:04:11] <cilkay> I was thinking of actually adding to Trac using Django.
[04:04:16] <coderanger> No
[04:04:35] <coderanger> Trac doesn't work very much like DJango/TG/Pylons/Rails
[04:05:06] <coderanger> things like Trac is only very loosely MVCish, if at all
[04:06:08] * asmodai is a MCV
[04:07:08] <coderanger> cilkay: Trac's API is pretty easy to pickup for most people
[04:07:17] <coderanger> then again I am probably the wrong one to ask :P
[04:07:33] <coderanger> grr, my JS is failing on Safari and I don't know why
[04:08:51] <cilkay> I see this: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/ComponentArchitecture Is there any other developer documentation?
[04:09:19] <coderanger> The best way is to look at existing plugins I think
[04:09:28] <coderanger> There is an old tutorial on t-h too
[04:09:41] <coderanger> probably should add some new stuff to that one of these days
[04:09:54] <cilkay> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev
[04:10:21] <coderanger> @wiki TracDev/DataModel
[04:10:21] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/DataModel
[04:10:24] <coderanger> that is good too
[04:11:02] <cilkay> SQLAlchemy seems to be finding its way into many projects. What about Trac?
[04:11:47] <coderanger> Planned and in progress in the sqlalchemy branch
[04:11:52] <coderanger> not sure how far matt is on it
[04:15:17] <asmodai> YARGH
[04:15:37] <coderanger> ?
[04:17:16] <asmodai> coderanger: trying to get some jquery stuff working ;)
[04:17:30] <coderanger> asmodai: Yeah, it can be fun
[04:17:36] <asmodai> coderanger: "fun"
[04:17:37] <asmodai> :)
[04:18:00] <coderanger> apparently safari was rejecting my JS because I have an object ending in ,
[04:18:14] <coderanger> which, while technically correct, is annoying
[04:18:22] <asmodai> I am trying to get the hover thinghy working
[04:19:09] <coderanger> mind if I post the pydotorg theme plugin on t-h?
[04:19:42] <cilkay> db schema evolution, very nice
[04:19:49] <asmodai> coderanger: Not at all
[04:19:57] <asmodai> coderanger: Feel free to fix the ticket view :P
[04:20:10] <coderanger> asmodai: heh, maybe some time when it isn't 7AM :P
[04:20:15] <asmodai> hahaha
[04:29:32] <Niels-> coderanger is there a way to edit a ticket description ?
[04:30:00] <coderanger> Niels-: If you have the needed permissions, you will see an edit box at the bottom of the form
[04:30:38] <Niels-> odd. I've got TRAC_ADMIN rights but I can't see any EDIT box
[04:31:15] <coderanger> on the ticket page, right above where the actions are
[04:31:20] <coderanger> and below the comments box
[04:33:14] <Niels-> f**** co-worker. He has jsut removed all the perms :/
[04:34:06] <Niels-> sorry for the dumb question.
[04:35:30] <coderanger> cd ..
[04:35:33] <coderanger> whoops
[04:36:11] <asmodai> ROFL
[04:36:32] * asmodai hands niels a clue-by-four
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[05:35:32] <asmodai> coderanger: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36027
[05:36:40] <coderanger> gotta love this country
[05:40:47] <coderanger> okay, its 8.5 AM
[05:40:50] <coderanger> time for sleep
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[05:41:53] <Bounga> hello
[05:42:43] <Bounga> I'm wondering if there's a Trac Themes website anywhere ?
[05:43:10] <coderanger> speak of the devil
[05:43:12] <coderanger> :)
[05:43:21] <coderanger> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/theme
[05:43:41] <coderanger> Just spent the last 12 hours on a theme system
[05:43:46] <coderanger> there are 3 up there
[05:43:58] <coderanger> you will need to install the ThemeEngine plugin
[05:44:51] <Bounga> ok I've found that
[05:44:57] <Bounga> so there's only 3 themes
[05:45:03] <Bounga> It's just CSS playing ?
[05:45:13] <coderanger> like I said, I just finished this system about an hour ago :P
[05:45:21] <Bounga> oh :)
[05:45:31] <coderanger> some also change the header and footer templates
[05:45:45] <coderanger> gamedev and pydotorg are mostly CSS though
[05:45:56] <coderanger> consultant is much more complex
[05:46:15] <Bounga> ok
[05:46:24] <Bounga> thank you :)
[05:49:51] <coderanger> Install them all and see which you like ;-)
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[05:51:02] <Bounga> I think I'm gonna do my own :)
[05:51:37] <Pistos> I've noticed over the past week or so, one trac.fcgi begins ballooning in memory usage. I have to either SIGKILL the process, or restart apache, or both.
[05:51:39] <coderanger> post it when its done
[05:51:47] <Pistos> I've used Trac for a while, and it's only doing this now... what gives? :)
[05:52:28] <Bounga> coderanger: ok
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[06:05:47] <grazieno> hi all, where I can find 'neo_cgi.so'?
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[06:36:07] <blinx> hi
[06:36:39] <blinx> the ticket system in my trac is damaged
[06:36:41] <blinx> http://pylucid.net/trac/ticket/30
[06:36:48] <blinx> I'm using the svn version..
[06:38:31] <blinx> what can I do?
[06:44:49] <Bounga> anyone using trac on gentoo ?
[06:44:55] <Pistos> Bounga: Me.
[06:45:03] <blinx> no but I used gentoo
[06:45:11] <Bounga> I've emerge trac but I've got the following error : TracError: ClearSilver not installed
[06:45:19] <Bounga> I've emerged clearsilver too
[06:45:23] <Pistos> Bounga: Hm.
[06:45:40] <Pistos> emerge -av trac <-- to see what use flags are there for trac, maybe you need to turn one or two on.
[06:46:07] <Bounga> -cgi -enscript -fastcgi +mysql -postgres -silvercity +sqlite -vhosts
[06:46:25] <Pistos> You may need either enscript or silvercity turned on.
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[06:47:09] <Bounga> silvercity ?
[06:47:17] <nDuff> I'm using mod_rewrite to rewrite /apps/trac to /cgi-bin/trac.cgi; however, Trac seems to know that it's at /cgi-bin/trac.cgi and is making all links on the pages it generates point there. Hints as to making trac appear to the client to live entirely under /apps/trac?
[06:47:21] <Pistos> Those two are responsible for doing the syntax highlighting.
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[06:48:42] <Bounga> so what can I do USE="silvercity" should do the trick ?
[06:48:50] <Bounga> resolve my problem with clearsilver ?
[06:49:19] * nDuff reads the TracPrettyUrls wiki page
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[06:50:09] <Pistos> Bounga: You should always use /etc/portage/package.use for USE flags, not set them on the CLI.
[06:51:00] <Bounga> and I should set silvercity to solve the clearsilver bug ?
[06:51:18] <Pistos> Not sure, I'm checking my flags for you now...
[06:51:24] <Bounga> thank you
[06:51:33] <Pistos> Actually, I have neither of them turned on.
[06:51:43] <Pistos> Here's the version I have: [ebuild R ] dev-libs/clearsilver-0.10.1
[06:51:50] <Bounga> hum ... so that's noy the problem
[06:51:58] <Pistos> Yeah... well, what order did you emerge in?
[06:52:03] <Pistos> Maybe you need clearsilver first, trac second...
[06:52:09] <Bounga> oh ...
[06:52:16] <Bounga> I've emerged trac first
[06:52:24] <Pistos> k, try reemerging trac, see what happens.
[06:52:52] <Bounga> oh ... dev-libs/clearsilver-0.10.1 -perl -python +zlib
[06:52:56] <Bounga> -python ?
[06:53:32] <Pistos> [ebuild R ] dev-libs/clearsilver-0.10.1 USE="perl python zlib" 0 kB
[06:53:43] <Pistos> You probably need python, but that's just a guess.
[06:53:43] <Bounga> that maybe the problem
[06:53:46] <Pistos> heh, yeah.
[06:53:49] <nDuff> Hrmph -- TracPrettyUrls advises using the R flag to mod_rewrite (and thus just doing a redirect to the ugly URL)
[06:54:53] * nDuff never wants the user to see the ugly URL, which is easy with mod_python -- but that's segfaulting Apache (2.2.3).
[06:55:36] <Getty> nDuff: apache 2.2.3 is generally very often segfaulting
[06:55:50] <Getty> nDuff: you should downgrade to some apache 2.0 or so, but just an advice
[06:56:22] <nDuff> ...probably so, yes. I'm a functionality whore, but it *does* get me into trouble at times.
[06:57:36] <Bounga> so I've added dev-libs/clearsilver python zlib to my packages.use
[06:57:51] <Bounga> sems to be good
[06:58:03] <Bounga> it's compiling neo_cgi
[06:58:23] <Bounga> Pistos: thanks a lot :)
[06:58:26] <Bounga> it works now
[06:58:33] <Pistos> :)
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[07:03:27] <nshepherd> I'm having soem issues with a few of my trac installs...they dont' update appropriately with my subversion repositories...
[07:03:47] <nshepherd> I have version 0.10.2, is this an isue that has been discussed before as it's really hard for me to track down the reasoning
[07:04:39] <otaku42> nshepherd: yes, iirc it's an issue in 0.10.2 and has been fixed in the recently released 0.10.3
[07:05:19] <nshepherd> thanks otaku42, I'll have to see about upgrading
[07:05:20] <nshepherd> :)
[07:05:54] <Pistos> Are there Trac forums or mailing list archives?
[07:07:13] <otaku42> Pistos: no forums afaik, but a mailing list with archives
[07:07:17] <Pistos> k
[07:07:28] <otaku42> Pistos: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MailingList
[07:07:32] <Pistos> Thanks.
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[07:19:58] <langenberg> Guys, it is possible to 'reset' an existing trac installlation. I've got a perfect lighty / trac / svn setup, and I'ld like to reuse it for a new project.
[07:20:25] <langenberg> I've already updated conf/trac.ini, so I guess I need to reacreate the sqlite3 dbfile, right?
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[07:21:36] <dstarh> does trac cache the user list at all? we've added new users to the linux box (apache pulling accounts from there), and while they can log into trac with no problems, there not shown in the selects when restrict owner is selected
[07:23:18] <Bounga> Pistos: there's something to emerge to enable svn in trac ?
[07:23:32] <Bounga> trac tells me : TracError: Unsupported version control system "svn"
[07:23:37] <Pistos> Bounga: AFAIK, it just works right away.
[07:23:43] <Bounga> hum
[07:24:00] <Pistos> Lesee your emerge -av trac flags again?
[07:24:26] <Bounga> -cgi -enscript -fastcgi +mysql -postgres -silvercity +sqlite -vhosts
[07:26:14] <Pistos> Bounga: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3844
[07:27:02] <dstarh> has anyone experienced this? I'm guessing somethign needs to be restarted?
[07:27:24] <Bounga> ImportError: No module named svn
[07:27:29] <Pistos> There you go. :)
[07:27:29] <Bounga> Pistos: so what can I do ?
[07:27:46] <Pistos> Welp, my first guess is to check the -av flags for svn and for python, see if one needs the other's use flag.
[07:28:53] <Pistos> Looks like subversion package has a "python" use flag.
[07:28:56] <Pistos> Check if you have that turned on.
[07:29:06] <Pistos> # equery uses subversion
[07:29:07] <Bounga> ok
[07:29:54] <Bounga> yeah there's -python flag
[07:30:00] <Bounga> I enable it
[07:31:49] <Bounga> Pistos: thanks again :)
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[07:37:32] <Pistos> Bounga: :)
[07:37:58] <Pistos> Bounga: That's sort of a bad part about Gentoo, the interrelation of all these USE flags is a bit mystical.
[07:38:30] <Bounga> yeah, and most of the time it doesn't fit most users needs
[07:41:29] <Pistos> Hm... I think my trac issue is related to the svn fix, but Gentoo doesn't have a package for 0.10.3 yet...
[07:41:31] * Pistos waits.
[07:41:59] <Pistos> Bounga: Okay, heading out of this channel. If you need more help, you can /whois me to find what channels I'm in.
[07:42:00] * Pistos waves.
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[07:45:06] <Bounga> Pistos: ok, thank you :)
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[07:57:31] <dstarh> Ok more info, I have a user that has TRAC_ADMIN permission, yet according to the Assign to: select, I cant assign a ticket to that person. They can log in, create tickets etc.. but they're not listed.
[07:57:59] <dstarh> i do have the restrict owner set to true
[07:58:14] <dstarh> they just dont show up in that dropdown
[08:10:03] <dstarh> anyone?
[08:11:01] <retracile> dstarh: once they've logged in, they should show up. Dunno why they aren't. Might be worth a ticket.
[08:11:30] <dstarh> i doubt that, it's probably a setup issue
[08:11:52] <retracile> Could be.
[08:12:29] <dstarh> retracile, all that needs to be done is just give that user a permission in tracadmin right?
[08:12:51] <dstarh> user being the userid that was created in PAM?
[08:12:52] <retracile> They need to login before they'll show up in that drop down.
[08:13:07] <dstarh> log in once you mean right?
[08:13:12] <retracile> Right.
[08:13:23] <dstarh> thats been done, they created a ticket
[08:13:36] <dstarh> that was before they were tracadmin
[08:14:17] <dstarh> well that was before we gave that person trac_admin permission, but the ticket came from that PAM user
[08:16:23] <retracile> You asked about trac caching user info; have you tried restarting apache?
[08:29:38] <Narada> hey; what's the syntax for resolving bugs in svn commit messages?
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[08:44:47] <pvf> oi oi
[08:45:06] <pvf> how can i delete tickets from trac database ?
[08:46:11] <retracile> pvf: trac-admin /path/to/tracdir ticket remove 1234. Backup your data first.
[08:48:11] <pvf> thx
[08:53:12] <dstarh> retracile: the userd had logged in but had not gone in to settings and updated their name/email
[08:54:21] <retracile> I didn't realize they had to do that to show up. But they're in the drop-down now?
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[09:24:07] <pvf> how can i notify tickets only to the owner of the issue
[09:24:43] <pvf> what i mean is where do i define the email address of each user
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[09:51:37] <langenberg> Is it possible to create a new sqlite3 db file for trac?
[09:52:09] <langenberg> I just want to delete everything in the wiki, the milestones etc. start over again.
[09:52:23] <langenberg> Without generating a new environment.
[09:56:12] <retracile> langenberg: why not create a new env>?
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[10:21:19] <langenberg> retracile: well, I'm afraid that, when I create a new env, I'm loosing my current setup. (lighty setup)
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[10:48:23] <tharvey_> whats the component name of the repo browser (in order to disable it in the 'components' section of trac.ini)? I thought it was just browser but that didn't fly
[10:50:01] <dstarh> is there any way for a TRAC_ADMIN to set email addresses of users? we want to roll out trac without having to tell people to log in, then go to setup and set their email address
[10:50:31] <dstarh> it seems like this should be an administerable item
[10:51:00] <retracile> dstarh: I did it with a bash script calling sqlite3. Not pretty, but it worked. (And was reproducible.)
[10:51:34] <dstarh> yea, i know I can just go edit the db but thats hardly a "good" solution
[10:52:19] <dstarh> i know that this could be done with a plugin, but this should be a feature in the core
[10:52:48] <dstarh> i know they're adding webadmin to the core but even webadmin only lets you set permissions, doesn't let you see, "all your users"
[10:53:37] <retracile> The AccountManager plugin does... but the version I'm using won't let admin modify the name/email stuff except when creating the account.
[10:53:49] <dstarh> Ahhhh cool
[10:53:57] <dstarh> I'll install that
[10:54:20] <dstarh> is there any way to have the dropdown show the Name instead of the Login id?
[10:55:03] <retracile> dstarh: I'm using TracAccountManager 0.1.3dev-r1549
[10:55:03] <retracile> Uninstall
[10:55:17] <retracile> oops... pasted 2 lines accidentally.
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[11:14:36] <dstarh> retracile? is there a way to show the full name in the dropdown?
[11:14:51] <retracile> dstarh: Dunno, sorry.
[11:16:10] <retracile> dstarh: Doing so might open you up to problems: people setting the same name for different accounts for instance... shrug
[11:17:28] <dstarh> this is an internal trac setup so that shouldn't be an issue
[11:17:28] <dstarh> at the very least it should be configurable like Wordpress
[11:17:31] <dstarh> they have so many options it's silly
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[11:30:18] <unlord> is it possible to change the repository_dir
[11:30:31] <unlord> my project got renamed, everything is the same except the dirs
[11:32:48] <dstarh> is there a way to save a Custom Query?, I have removed the Reports module in favor of queries so that the users dont become dependant on reports when they get rid of them
[11:33:02] <dstarh> but our current tracking software allows you to save a query for later use
[11:33:12] <idnar> you can bookmark the URL
[11:33:16] <idnar> (or stick it on the wiki somewhere)
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