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December 18, 2006

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[00:14:39] <misc> ingy: not in my backlog
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[00:19:16] <jpatota> every time i commit something new to my svn directory i am forced to resync. why?
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[00:24:03] <austriancoder> HI all... has anybody successfully installed trac on sourceforge.net?
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[00:39:48] <coderanger> jpatota: Bug in 0.10.1 and .2, fixed in .3
[00:39:59] <coderanger> austriancoder: Won't work AFAIK
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[00:50:36] <jpatota> coderanger: gotcha thanks
[00:53:04] <jpatota> coderanger: do you know where i can find the bugreport on that
[00:54:10] <coderanger> Its on t.e.o somewhere
[00:54:26] <coderanger> there isn't a single patch for i if thats what you are looking for
[00:56:01] <austriancoder> coderanger: to bad... but thanks..
[00:56:17] <coderanger> austriancoder: Why would you want to do that?
[00:56:42] <coderanger> austriancoder: Trac duplicates most of what SF offers, so it isn't in their best interest
[00:56:59] <coderanger> austriancoder: There are several groups offering Trac+Subversion to FOSS projects though
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[00:57:56] <austriancoder> coderanger: i have a project hosted on sf with subversion.. sure is there a duplication, but trac includes a nice ticketsystem, wiki.. all in one and good looking. FOSS?
[00:58:16] <coderanger> austriancoder: FOSS = Free/Open Source Software
[00:58:46] <coderanger> austriancoder: If you want to use Tracm don't use SF, they are mutually exclusive for most things
[00:59:32] <austriancoder> coderanger: ah okay.. will look in the net for other FOSS's
[00:59:47] <coderanger> @wiki CommercialServices
[00:59:47] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/CommercialServices
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[01:39:13] <didier> hi
[01:39:46] <coderanger> Hello
[01:41:52] <didier> I have a list of #<numbre> in a wiki page, where <number> is a ticket number. Some tickets are closed and the #<number> are not striked. Is it the right behaviour ?
[01:42:48] <coderanger> Probably not
[01:42:54] <coderanger> What version of Trac?
[01:44:05] <didier> coderanger: 0.9.6; if I take a look to the changeset for SVN, the #<number> are striked
[01:44:44] <coderanger> You mean in the timeline view of the log messages?
[01:46:45] <didier> coderanger: no, I mean in the /cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/69 for example; but sorry, here too the number is not striked :(
[01:47:08] <coderanger> Do you have wiki formatting enabled for log messages?
[01:47:18] <coderanger> i.e. are the links to the tickets
[01:47:54] <didier> yes, I can switch to the ticket when I'm in a changeset page, or a wiki page
[01:48:28] <coderanger> But is "#1" showing up as a link
[01:48:33] <didier> yes
[01:48:58] <didier> /cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/595
[01:49:25] <coderanger> I would say try upgrading to the latest, and if that doesn't work, file a ticket
[01:50:03] <didier> coderanger: hum, ok, I will see with my system administrator
[01:50:40] <coderanger> I honestly don't remember if the strikeout stuff was even part of 0.9
[01:50:49] <coderanger> been a long time since I've used it
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[02:22:44] <jpatota> im curious why http://www.blastwave.org/packages.php/trac distributes trac with pysvn. i thought the python bindings were wrong and i needed swig
[02:25:22] <coderanger> no idea
[02:25:30] <coderanger> You do indeed need the SWIG bindings
[02:26:01] <coderanger> its possible they just choose a bad name for the package
[02:26:12] <coderanger> since it claims to be the SWIG bindings
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[03:13:39] <qk> Hi, one question - how to enable authrequiredplugin ? I have instaled it, but no idea how make it working ?
[03:16:17] <coderanger> how did you install it?
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[03:20:15] <qk> coderanger: it working ok now, it was permisions issue, thanks anyway.
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[04:23:02] <PlasmaHH> hm, I have just added a few milestones, but they dont show up in the timeline. is that normal?
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[05:06:32] <rene_est> can anybody help?
[05:06:55] <rene_est> when i press timeline or browse source button then:
[05:06:58] <rene_est> Trac detected an internal error:
[05:07:03] <rene_est> ("File not found: revision 6715, path 'kis/'", 160013)
[05:08:53] <coderanger> sounds like you have a corupted repo
[05:08:59] <coderanger> run svnadmin verify on it
[05:09:06] <coderanger> if that passes, resync
[05:11:54] <rene_est> this is traceback http://www.sipelgas.eu/trac.txt
[05:12:15] <rene_est> how can i wertify with svnadmin is my repo corrupted?
[05:12:27] <coderanger> rene_est: svnadmin verify /path/to/repo
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[05:22:04] <bernouli> hello, how can i use trac with syntax coloring? i have installed enscript, what should i configure?
[05:22:26] <coderanger> bernouli: It should pick it up automatically if it is installed
[05:22:35] <coderanger> double check that enscript_path is correct
[05:23:10] <bernouli> coderanger, which tag should i use in the wiki?
[05:23:22] <coderanger> bernouli: What do you mean?
[05:24:16] <bernouli> coderanger, i want to type for example php codes in trac wiki, should i use specified tag, like <pre> or what should i do to make trac knows that it should make the codes colours
[05:24:35] <coderanger> {{{ \n #!php \n <code> \n }}}
[05:26:18] <bernouli> coderanger, it doesnt work, no colour
[05:27:04] <bernouli> `which enscript` tells me /usr/bin/enscript
[05:27:18] <coderanger> Is your PHP code in the repo highlighted
[05:27:50] <bernouli> let me check
[05:28:08] <bernouli> no
[05:28:32] <bernouli> i go to "browse source" and see a php file, but it is not coloured
[05:29:14] <bernouli> i am using 0.8, if it an issue
[05:31:56] <AllenJB> Does anyone know of a plugin that will allow me to take either of an SVN dump or a Trac backup via the web interface? Also, does anyone know of any source for Debian Sarge packages for 0.10?
[05:32:28] <bernouli> coderanger, do you have any idea?
[05:32:42] <coderanger> bernouli: Thats a pretty ancient version
[05:32:51] <coderanger> AllenJB: No, and yes
[05:32:58] <rene_est> coderanger: tnx, no more error
[05:33:01] <rene_est> bye
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[05:33:13] <bernouli> coderanger, i know, i am using debian stable and it provides only 0.8
[05:33:52] <coderanger> AllenJB: http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/tags/debian-dev/0.10.1-1
[05:33:57] <coderanger> bernouli: Use that ;-)
[05:34:24] <bernouli> i am afraid of upgrading :(
[05:34:55] <coderanger> bernouli: You can try to make sure that encript_path is correct(http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni#mimeviewer-section)
[05:35:13] <coderanger> bernouli: But beyond that all you can do is start looking through code and logfiles
[05:35:37] <coderanger> bernouli: The debian devs have been backporting some of the new security systems, its possible they broke enscript
[05:35:46] <AllenJB> coderanger: Thanks
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[05:37:08] <bernouli> coderanger, perverted question, where are the log files?
[05:37:13] <coderanger> @logging
[05:37:13] <evil_twin> coderanger: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[05:40:52] <bernouli> coderanger, it will be difficult now, i see in log_file = trac.log, but i cant find this file
[05:41:04] <coderanger> its in the log/ folder of the trac env
[05:41:27] <bernouli> and what is trac env?
[05:41:36] <bernouli> ah
[05:41:36] <bernouli> ok
[05:41:38] <bernouli> i find itr
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[05:44:46] <bernouli> coderanger, the trac.log is empty, the folder and the file was set, that the webserver cant write, but now i change it, i tried clicking around, but the file is still empty
[05:45:02] <coderanger> bernouli: Did you you set type = file
[05:45:54] <bernouli> coderanger, it was type=none, now type=file, and it works now, thanks
[05:46:17] <bernouli> Trac[Mimeview] WARNING: Display failed: No module named SilverCity
[05:46:43] <bernouli> where can i add modules?
[05:46:55] <coderanger> apt :P
[05:47:16] <bernouli> but i installed enscript, i thought i can choose use enscript or silvercity
[05:47:21] <coderanger> you can
[05:47:26] <coderanger> thats why its a warning not an error
[05:48:39] <bernouli> coderanger, i dont get any error saying cant find enscript or something
[05:49:07] <coderanger> bernouli: Honestly I don't know the 0.8 codebase enough to debug much more than "try fiddling"
[05:49:21] <bernouli> http://pastebin.ca/283612 , that is all the log
[05:49:25] <coderanger> 0.8 is over 2 years old at this point I think
[05:49:38] <coderanger> its really worth upgrade to something newer
[05:49:42] <bernouli> ok
[05:51:48] <bernouli> coderanger, if i want to install silvercity, where should i configure? because apt cant find silvercity, so i need to download the source
[05:53:03] <coderanger> http://silvercity.sourceforge.net/
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[05:53:56] <bernouli> hmm, maybe i should really upgrade trac
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[06:54:28] <dstarh> can anyone point me to a good tut on creating eggs? the sys admins are getting nowhere
[06:54:46] <dstarh> according to them, they follow the "instructions" and no egg is created
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[06:55:58] <coderanger> dstarh: python seutp.py bdist_egg
[06:56:06] <coderanger> the egg will be in the dist/ folder
[06:56:44] <dstarh> thanks, i've beein trying to get him to install the plugin you wrote to no avail...
[06:56:49] <dstarh> as well as a few others
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[06:58:49] <dstarh> he says thats exactly what he's been doing and theres nothing there
[06:59:38] <coderanger> can you get a copy of the output of the command?
[06:59:55] <coderanger> setuptools is nothing if not descriptive w.r.t. it is doing
[06:59:56] <dstarh> wait, now he wants to know what the /dist folder is?
[07:00:16] <coderanger> under the folder containing the setup.py, you will see two new folder
[07:00:25] <coderanger> build/ contains the build files, dist/ contains the egg
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[07:10:15] <dstarh> haha, he just didnt know to check the dist folder
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[07:46:51] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: arround?
[07:46:55] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: Yep
[07:47:11] <s0undt3ch> I don't have access to all meny items on pyhondotorg theme
[07:47:22] <s0undt3ch> http://ccp.ufsoft.org/
[07:47:34] <s0undt3ch> try settings or register
[07:47:47] <coderanger> Yeah, talk to asmodai
[07:48:08] <s0undt3ch> oh, thats known?
[07:48:14] <coderanger> The div from the search box needs to be made smaller
[07:48:15] <coderanger> yeah
[07:48:27] <s0undt3ch> ah
[07:48:31] <coderanger> there is also a 1px glitch on the reports view
[07:48:36] <s0undt3ch> ok, working on it
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[07:48:50] <coderanger> want commit access to it?
[07:49:00] <prologic> hey coderanger question
[07:49:05] <s0undt3ch> try the ones on ctxnav
[07:49:06] <prologic> the PrivateTicketPlugin you created
[07:49:14] <prologic> what could you use this for, and why did you create it ?
[07:49:25] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: I'm sure you don't want all my changes commited :)
[07:49:33] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: ctxtnav works for me
[07:49:44] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: Heh, well just post patches then and I'll throw them in
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[07:50:13] <coderanger> prologic: The general scenario is you have a software company. each customer of yours gets an account to file and watch bugs
[07:50:22] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: ctxnav is the wiki one right?
[07:50:24] <coderanger> but you don't want customer A to see customer B's bugs
[07:50:35] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: Its the one under the line
[07:50:49] <s0undt3ch> ok, then hover is not working for some of them
[07:51:00] <prologic> coderanger, can this easily be used as a support/helpdesk type thing too ?
[07:51:25] <coderanger> prologic: Probably, as with a lot of the stuff I make, I just make the plugin and let other people figure out how to use it
[07:51:36] <prologic> *nods*
[07:51:38] <coderanger> prologic: I personally use a very small number of my own pluings
[07:51:41] <prologic> good plugin though
[07:52:12] <prologic> I can't wait to see plugins _really_ extend other plugns - only possibly with genshi stream-based templating
[07:52:20] <prologic> eg: TinyMCE + Tags
[07:52:31] <coderanger> yeah
[07:52:46] <coderanger> I actually need to futz with tinymce some more
[07:52:53] <prologic> or even the Wiki + TemplatesPlugin
[07:52:58] <coderanger> I noticed there is a jquery plugin for it
[07:53:12] <prologic> ahh k
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[07:53:51] <s0undt3ch> dam the search div has the same height as the whole header
[07:56:52] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: what's that reports 1px glitch?
[07:57:22] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: Mouse over the "Available reports" table
[07:57:28] <metallic> i'm having a strange issue here. i have the swig svn bindings installed, i copied them to the site-packages directory on the server, and i can do a "import svn" and a "import libsvn" fine from the python shell
[07:57:44] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: ah, that
[07:57:55] <metallic> yet i'm still getting an "Unsupported version control system 'svn'" error message from Trac
[07:58:06] <coderanger> metallic: How about "python -c 'from svn import fs'
[07:59:10] <metallic> coderanger: ahh, that revealed something. svn isnt finding a library
[07:59:16] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: I also have a prob with your ticket delete plug, the delete link that get's added to the ticket view is just an href, it should the a input
[07:59:42] <s0undt3ch> but since only admins will look at that, not much of a problem
[07:59:53] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: Its a hard call semantically, since it is actually a link elsewhere
[08:00:26] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: TicketDelete really needs to be integrated into Trac itself
[08:00:56] <coderanger> I was going to wait until post-workflow, but since that seems to be dragging on maybe I should just do it now :-/
[08:01:48] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: but you could do <input type="button" onClick="location.href='the ticket delete ref'" name="Delete" value="Delete">
[08:02:02] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: But it isn't an input
[08:02:15] <retracile> coderanger: Is anyone working on WorkFlow at this point? Last I looked, work had "restarted", but I hadn'
[08:02:21] <retracile> t seen any progress.
[08:02:24] <s0undt3ch> no, we just make it look like one :)
[08:02:42] <coderanger> retracile: Alec was restarting it, but then he had to go india for a while for work stuff
[08:02:48] <coderanger> retracile: So he hasn't been around much
[08:04:37] <retracile> coderanger: Do you think Alec will have a chance to get that work restarted before pycon/end of Feb?
[08:04:46] <coderanger> Not a clue
[08:04:55] <coderanger> I'm not even sure when he will be back in AU
[08:05:28] <retracile> Ok. It's something I'm going to need; I just need to find time to work on it.
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[08:12:58] <prologic> hey coderanger, surely there's a way to upgrade all installed trac plugins with noe nice easy command ?
[08:13:12] <coderanger> That was the goal of hackinstall
[08:13:20] <coderanger> Its not perfect though
[08:13:26] <prologic> hmm
[08:13:27] <coderanger> You can try it if you want
[08:13:34] <prologic> cause currently I have trac-hacks svn checked out
[08:13:40] <prologic> and have to cd, check the version against installed
[08:13:43] <coderanger> I need to rework to get its info and sources from PyPI
[08:13:46] <prologic> then do a python setup.py install
[08:13:48] <prologic> painfull :)
[08:14:01] <coderanger> as that the only uniform way to get the data it needs
[08:14:21] <prologic> oh well
[08:14:31] <coderanger> Like I said, it kinda works
[08:14:38] <coderanger> feel free to make it better :)
[08:14:57] <prologic> hmm yeah
[08:15:00] <prologic> I'll think about it
[08:15:11] <prologic> obviously I don't install using setuptools and pypi atm
[08:15:28] <coderanger> The biggest issue with the whole system will be dependency stuff
[08:15:38] <prologic> yeah
[08:15:46] <coderanger> I think I need to make a trac package server that supplements pypi with extra metadata
[08:16:01] <coderanger> including deps and what versions of Trac each plugin works with
[08:16:08] <prologic> or why don't we make one anyway
[08:16:14] <prologic> and not use pypi ?
[08:16:24] <prologic> seeing as pypi has nothing really to do with trac plugins :)
[08:16:41] <coderanger> because PyPI is a nice infrastructure for distributing eggs
[08:16:56] <prologic> ok good reason :)
[08:17:26] <coderanger> Also once I got what I need working, I could show it to sig-catalog and hope they let me work some of the enhancements into pypi
[08:18:11] <prologic> *nods*
[08:32:48] <prologic> coderanger, http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au/
[08:32:52] <prologic> did I do something wrong ?
[08:33:00] <prologic> theme engine is enabled
[08:34:44] <s0undt3ch> prologic: nice to see you're using wikinotification
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[08:35:14] <prologic> s0undt3ch, course I am :)
[08:35:17] <s0undt3ch> maybe I should grab that plug again and improve it a bit more like MX DNS record checkig of email addresses :)
[08:35:43] <s0undt3ch> so our mail servers don't get busy sending to invalid mail addresses
[08:36:07] <s0undt3ch> that has been on my mind for some time now
[08:36:34] <prologic> *nods*
[08:36:39] <s0undt3ch> prologic: http://ccp.ufsoft.org/wiki working arround here (theme engine)
[08:37:05] <s0undt3ch> prologic: have you enable the theme on [components]?
[08:37:08] <prologic> hmm not for me
[08:37:11] <prologic> yeap
[08:37:13] <prologic> have done so
[08:37:18] <s0undt3ch> restarted server?
[08:37:23] <prologic> yeap
[08:37:37] <s0undt3ch> hmm, dunno
[08:38:05] <s0undt3ch> how did you enabled that theme? in /admin ?
[08:38:09] <prologic> hmm ISPMan huh
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[08:38:27] <prologic> do you have to enable the theme too ?
[08:38:30] <s0undt3ch> prologic: know ISPMan?
[08:38:34] <metallic> this is driving me nuts. having problems with libxml2
[08:38:37] <prologic> no I don't tell me more :)
[08:38:39] <prologic> sounds interesting
[08:38:53] <prologic> I will need a decent web admin tool to work with MikroTik and Radius
[08:39:16] <s0undt3ch> it is and I'm not and ISP so it's also good for home servers :)
[08:39:40] <s0undt3ch> ISPMan works with Radius but never heard of MikroTik
[08:39:47] <s0undt3ch> now, about your theme
[08:40:05] <s0undt3ch> go to your admin area
[08:40:24] <s0undt3ch> under general you'll see theme
[08:40:31] <s0undt3ch> select you theme there
[08:41:00] <prologic> ok the theme works now
[08:41:26] <prologic> hmm
[08:41:31] <s0undt3ch> prologic: oh, ISPMan is writen in perl, my Customer control panel approach is the one writen in python
[08:41:32] <prologic> what Radius will ISPMan work with ?
[08:41:38] <prologic> what's ISPman developed in ?
[08:41:55] <prologic> ahh
[08:41:56] <s0undt3ch> unfortunatly, Pler
[08:42:00] <s0undt3ch> oops
[08:42:01] <s0undt3ch> Perl
[08:42:02] <prologic> what's ISPMan do exactly ?
[08:42:25] <s0undt3ch> hmmm, lemme show you the site http://ispman.net
[08:43:09] <s0undt3ch> I'm having it managing my domain's dns(bind) mail(posfix/cyrus) ftp(pureftpd)
[08:43:19] <prologic> oh ic
[08:43:23] <prologic> it can manage all that ?
[08:43:25] <s0undt3ch> oh, and apache too
[08:43:38] <s0undt3ch> yeah! ldap backend based
[08:43:44] <prologic> nice
[08:43:46] <prologic> you wrote it ?
[08:43:58] <s0undt3ch> nope, else it would be writen in Python not perl
[08:44:04] <s0undt3ch> I hate Perl!
[08:44:05] <prologic> ahhh
[08:44:09] <s0undt3ch> lol
[08:44:11] <prologic> so what's this thing you _are_ writing ?
[08:44:15] <prologic> yeah I do too
[08:44:18] <prologic> perl is disgusting :)
[08:45:39] <s0undt3ch> ispman has a nice admin ui with access to ALL configuration, so giving access to hosted users on that admin pannel is a no go! so I'm writeing a customer admin pannel, which nwo inly manages mail accounts, and might probably manage customer(hosted) apache vhosts configs too
[08:45:57] <s0undt3ch> dam typos
[08:46:32] <s0undt3ch> ispman has a nice admin ui with access to ALL configuration, so giving access to hosted users on that admin pannel is a no go! so I'm writing a customer admin pannel, which currently only manages mail accounts, and might probably manage customer(hosted) apache vhosts configs too
[08:46:42] <s0undt3ch> but it's writen in Python!
[08:47:03] <prologic> ahh k
[08:47:07] <s0undt3ch> to do the job I'm using PyPerl, ie, access and use Perl packages inside Python
[08:47:24] <s0undt3ch> and it actually works, go figure
[08:48:12] <s0undt3ch> prologic: if you find yourself interested in ISPMan drop at #ispman, you'll have all the help you need there
[08:48:34] <prologic> ta
[08:48:51] <prologic> I'll just be looking for a nice web-based tool to manage radius accounts and such soon
[08:49:09] <s0undt3ch> prologic: http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au/discussion
[08:49:16] <s0undt3ch> a nice 500
[08:49:23] <prologic> lol
[08:49:29] <prologic> not my fault :)
[08:49:56] <prologic> hrmm
[08:50:00] <prologic> bug in the intrablogtheme
[08:50:02] <prologic> coderanger, :)
[08:50:05] <prologic> http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au/discussion
[08:50:42] <s0undt3ch> prologic: still having those postfix problems?
[08:50:52] <s0undt3ch> (host smtp-02.tld.t-online.de[194.25.134.77] refused to talk to me: 554 IP:60.240.225.33 - A problem occurred. (Ask your postmaster for help or to contact todo@rx.t-online.de to clarify.))
[08:51:09] <s0undt3ch> are you on a static IP? have you set your MX?
[08:51:26] <prologic> ahh yeah
[08:51:30] <prologic> I get those occassionylly
[08:51:34] <prologic> some mail servers will refuse to talk to me
[08:51:41] <s0undt3ch> so?
[08:51:42] <prologic> prolly the really up-tight ones
[08:51:43] <s0undt3ch> are you on a static IP? have you set your MX?
[08:51:50] <prologic> I have 3 /29 blocks :)
[08:51:52] <prologic> umm yes :)
[08:52:04] <prologic> mx records - check :)
[08:52:12] <s0undt3ch> spf?
[08:52:16] <prologic> I think the problem is I have no control over the name pointers to my ip blocks
[08:52:23] <prologic> so the ip doesn't resolve back to the hostname in most cases
[08:52:28] <s0undt3ch> ah
[08:52:43] <s0undt3ch> yes, that's a problem some mailservers will complain
[08:52:54] <prologic> yeah I know
[08:53:05] <prologic> afaik none of my mail servers (2) should be in any bl or spf lists
[08:53:12] <prologic> afaik :)
[08:53:25] <s0undt3ch> since I'm on dynamic IP I route my mail through my isp's smtp server, and I get some similiar ones sometimes too
[08:53:48] <prologic> I hope one day to move all this crap to a datacentre
[08:53:53] <s0undt3ch> my mail server's smtp server is not the same as my domain's MX recored
[08:53:57] <prologic> or inside a nice building and rack moutn it all
[08:54:13] <