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December 29, 2006

[00:26:11] <pacopablo> evening
[00:27:03] <pacopablo> question for any dev: what would you suggest as a syntax for a postgresql db uri that specifies a UNIX domain socket rather than a tcp/ip host?
[00:27:15] <alect> hey paco
[00:27:22] <pacopablo> hey alect
[00:27:35] <pacopablo> how was india? (I"m guessing you're back)
[00:27:55] <alect> i am indeed. it was pretty good
[00:27:58] <alect> nepal was better
[00:28:02] <alect> and home better still :)
[00:28:07] <pacopablo> hehe
[00:28:15] <alect> how was your christmas?
[00:28:23] <pacopablo> good
[00:28:31] <pacopablo> got a job right before christmas
[00:28:38] <alect> nice one. where? doing what?
[00:28:39] <pacopablo> and started on wednesday
[00:28:59] <pacopablo> working for a company called precision conversions
[00:29:05] <pacopablo> I'm the new network admin
[00:29:19] <alect> i think the mysql dbapi has a unix socket connection facility
[00:29:29] <pacopablo> shouldn't
[00:29:43] <pacopablo> the db parsing routine doesn't really support it
[00:29:45] <alect> nice one
[00:29:49] <pacopablo> though I guess I could take a look
[00:30:14] <pacopablo> the underlying postgres library supports it, it's just the parsing of the uri that doesn't
[00:30:58] <pacopablo> btw, how is workflow coming?
[00:31:13] <alect> i have had literally zero time to work on it :(
[00:31:35] <alect> got back on the 18th, then promptly contracted gastroenteritis and was off sick for a week
[00:31:40] <alect> then christmas crap
[00:31:45] <alect> quite annoying actually
[00:32:05] <pacopablo> ugh, that sucks
[00:32:25] * pacopablo curses not having a good "middle mouse button" on his new laptop
[00:33:28] <pacopablo> well, got to run
[00:33:31] <pacopablo> see you later
[00:33:38] <alect> righto, cya
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[05:17:19] <alect> evening
[05:49:53] <m_g> hi alect
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[05:59:15] <vesty> Anyone able to give me some pointers about installing plugins from source? I'm currently attempting to install the AuthRequired plugin (already have AccountManager installed). I've downloaded teh AuthRequired source and run 'python setup.py install', but i'm not sure if I need to create any directories/put any files in correct spots first etc. After running the setup, it runs through then gives the error "package directory 'tracauthrequired'
[05:59:18] <vesty> does not exist"
[06:00:10] <alect> sounds like you have dodgy source
[06:00:28] <vesty> oh..
[06:00:43] <vesty> Always nicer to hear that than 'you screwed up'
[06:00:54] <vesty> I'll get the source to a different plugin and try that
[06:01:27] <vesty> Does it matter where I download to/run the setup.py from?
[06:01:57] <alect> yes. it must be from the plugin
[06:02:30] <vesty> plugin? or the plugins subdir of my trac env?
[06:03:52] <alect> setup.py is unique to each python package
[06:05:01] <vesty> each plugin package right?
[06:05:10] <alect> yes
[06:05:32] <vesty> So if I just download the source, extract it to my plugins dir, then run setup.py from there, is that right?
[06:05:51] <alect> generally you don't extract it to your plugins dir
[06:05:56] <alect> extract it to /tmp (for example)
[06:06:03] <alect> then run python setup.py ...
[06:06:07] <alect> where ... can be "install"
[06:06:09] <alect> or bdist_egg
[06:06:22] <alect> if the latter you have to copy the .egg file to your plugins dir
[06:07:17] <vesty> Ok cool, thanks alect. I'll try out a different plugin source and see how I go
[06:09:42] <vesty> Anyone tried using the AutoTrac/BugReporterPlugin?
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[06:19:22] <dstarh> is there a "current user" value avaliable to the wiki functions like TicketQuery or query:?
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[06:32:39] <stephan_> hi
[06:34:10] <stephan_> i have got a question, i'm using websvn and a wiki atm standalone, i have different projects can i manage this in one trac project?
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[06:47:03] <dstarh> stephan_ sure
[06:47:17] <dstarh> each project can just be a component under trac
[06:47:54] <HairyDude> quick question, why doesn't trac inherit its locale from the environment?
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[06:50:37] <parax> hi!
[06:51:41] <parax> is there a way to filter the list of projects that serves a standalone tracd daemon?
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[07:04:12] <s0undt3ch> any Postgres users arround?
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[07:17:45] <matt_good> HairyDude: it does. can you explain the problem you're having?
[07:19:03] <matt_good> parax: not really, since viewing the project listing does not require authentication you can't restrict it based on a username or s/t like that
[07:20:08] <parax> matt_good: then must I need to create a rewrite rule or similar on my http server to avoid completely that page, true?
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[07:21:02] <parax> or is it posible to configure tracd daemon to not display that list?
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[07:21:30] <parax> not to display it for any user
[07:23:36] <vesty> I'm playing with the email notification options, but dont' seem to be generating any emails on thing like ownership changes etc. Is there somewhere that email attempt failures etc might be logged?
[07:24:21] <matt_good> parax: no, there's no option for turning it off
[07:24:30] <parax> ok, thanks!
[07:24:31] <HairyDude> matt_good: well I've fixed the problem now
[07:24:36] <matt_good> @logging
[07:24:36] <evil_twin> matt_good: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[07:24:52] <matt_good> vesty: see above
[07:25:00] <vesty> matt_good: muchos gracias
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[07:25:17] <HairyDude> matt_good: I was just wondering why giving apache a SetEnv directive didn't affect it, but you had instead to pass in the locale as an option to mod_python
[07:26:09] <HairyDude> (the actual problem was that it was using silly American middle-endian dates instead of British or ISO dates)
[07:27:17] <coderanger> Because mod_python runs in its own environment
[07:29:40] <matt_good> HairyDude: eh, 1-10 corresponds more to speech "January 10th", but ISO is preferable for sorting and disambiguation
[07:30:37] <HairyDude> matt_good: well yes, but we Brits don't say "January 10th" :)
[07:32:50] <matt_good> HairyDude: "the 10th of January"?
[07:33:02] <HairyDude> yes
[07:34:16] <HairyDude> so the reason is that mod_python doesn't inherit the environment?
[07:36:45] <matt_good> HairyDude: I believe it should inherit the system-wide locale setting, but it's not affected by the SetEnv change in Apache
[07:37:22] <coderanger> It doesn't normally inherit anything from the request's environment
[07:37:35] <HairyDude> hmm, that possibly means the global locale setting is wrong :)
[07:37:37] <coderanger> Trac has a few keys that it specifically copies over
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[07:41:27] <HairyDude> thanks for the info
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[08:14:09] <vesty> Anyone here use emailtotrac?
[08:14:19] <vesty> email2trac even...
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[08:16:47] <synic> can someone point me to some documentation that could help in improving the performance of trac?
[08:19:29] <coderanger> synic: Are you using postgres?
[08:19:39] <coderanger> and what frontend/server are you using?
[08:19:48] <synic> apache2 and sqlite
[08:19:56] <coderanger> fcgi or mod_python
[08:19:59] <synic> fcgi
[08:20:09] <coderanger> postgres should be faster on the DB side
[08:20:28] <coderanger> you can try switching the server to lighty, or some people have said good things about tracd+nginx
[08:20:35] <synic> hrmm, ok.
[08:20:45] <coderanger> make sure static content isn't being handled by Trac
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[08:51:18] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: genshi does not use c._() ;)
[08:51:24] <s0undt3ch> errrr5
[08:51:32] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: pylons does not use c._() ;)
[08:52:19] <s0undt3ch> it's h._() but can also be _() but, for other "flavours" of gettext calls, i uses h.<flavour>
[08:52:23] <s0undt3ch> *it
[08:52:34] <s0undt3ch> any Trac on Postgres users arround?
[08:54:12] <s0undt3ch> if any are there try http://<your.trac.env>/report/6
[08:54:25] <s0undt3ch> I get "Report execution failed: column "modified" does not exist"
[08:54:42] <s0undt3ch> but this only happens with PG as the backend, not SQLite
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[09:14:19] <matt_good> s0undt3ch: yeah, that should be fixed in the current default reports, but you'll need to modify them by hand
[09:16:10] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: where exactly are the current default reports?
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[09:16:20] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: trunk right?
[09:17:43] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: but where exactly can I get the SQL so I can update it by hand?
[09:20:11] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: using the SQL found on http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/db_default.py for that specific report spits the same error
[09:20:34] <s0undt3ch> is it a backend issue fixed in trunk?
[09:20:56] <matt_good> no, it was an issue in that report's SQL
[09:21:18] <matt_good> several of them actually
[09:21:50] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: well still happens
[09:22:14] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: grabbed the sql from http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/db_default.py
[09:24:35] <matt_good> damn, I could've sworn I fixed that
[09:24:53] <matt_good> it's fixed in the reports on t.e.o
[09:24:58] <matt_good> use this instead: (CASE status WHEN 'closed' THEN changetime ELSE -CAST(p.value AS int) END)
[09:25:11] <matt_good> http://trac.edgewall.org/report/11?format=sql
[09:25:46] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: I get forbidded for that link :)
[09:26:39] <matt_good> ah, well the (CASE part is all that should need changed
[09:26:49] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: yes, that solved it
[09:29:57] <vesty> I'm trying to run emailfilter.py in contrib, but am getting this error: 'ImportError: No module named trac.env' - any ideas?
[09:31:30] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: you fix db_default of do I submit a ticket?
[09:31:37] <s0undt3ch> s/of/or
[09:32:09] <matt_good> s0undt3ch: I'll take care of it this afternoon
[09:32:21] <matt_good> biab
[09:32:23] <s0undt3ch> matt_good: ok
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[09:57:22] <Zambezi> Anyone tired the latest rtorrent and know about the encryption? Does it encrypts the protocol?
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[10:05:30] <Arc> does anyone know where larger trac logos may be found?
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[10:28:28] <PlasmaHH> hi, is it possible to hide checkins to a specific branch in svn from the timeline? or to mark it specially (e.g. smaller font)?
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[10:33:04] <dstarh> is there any "current user" variable in trac that could be used when writing queries?
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[10:37:07] <dstarh> we want to write a query that has all of your tickets and all tickets your CC'd on but not have one for every user
[10:38:37] <synic> will switching to mod_python from fcgi improve performance?
[10:40:45] <PlasmaHH> synic: try it and see. it depends on too many things to make a valid prediction for you
[10:41:14] <PlasmaHH> dstarh: have you looked at report 7 ?
[10:41:24] <dstarh> i have reports disabled
[10:42:00] <dstarh> we've been trying to stay away from them since they will end up going away
[10:42:02] <PlasmaHH> dstarh: thats the report here, maybe it helps (its the "My Tickets" report)
[10:42:03] <PlasmaHH> http://rafb.net/p/2RMYCm61.html
[10:42:24] <PlasmaHH> ah ok
[10:43:19] <dstarh> i need something that will work in wiki syntax
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[10:44:31] <dstarh> haha i can write some javascript that will go in and scrape the username from the logged in as line :)
[10:48:13] <thansen> does some sort of integrated mailing list solution exist for trac?
[10:50:22] <m_g> no
[10:53:41] <Zambezi> Anyone know the officell libtorrent/rtorrent channel where I can contact Rakhasa?
[10:53:52] <dstarh> crap it filters out script tags
[10:54:07] <dstarh> this is not a torrent chanel
[10:54:16] <dstarh> *channel
[10:56:12] <dstarh> is there any way to remove the sanatizing functions of the wikihtml processor?
[11:01:04] <coderanger> Make your own processor
[11:01:18] <coderanger> that wraps the text in Markup()
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[11:17:06] <kmccabe> Oh, bother--I recently upgrade Trac to 10.3 and now I'm getting seemingly-random "too many open files" errors.
[11:17:39] <kmccabe> A lot of my dependencies are kinda old--are there known problems with svn 1.2.x?
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[11:18:03] <coderanger> In relation to Trac, no
[11:18:19] <coderanger> But obviously there are hordes of bugs in it that have been fixed since then
[11:18:50] <coderanger> Also check your version of enscript if you are using that
[11:19:24] <PlasmaHH> is it possible to hide checkins to a specific branch in svn from the timeline? or to mark it specially (e.g. smaller font)?
[11:19:38] <coderanger> Not with a stock Trac
[11:19:45] <coderanger> you could make a plugin/patch to do it
[11:21:05] <kmccabe> coderanger: enscript's kinda recent--1.6.1. I'm only seeing this happen while banging on the wiki, so I'm wondering if it's sqlite.
[11:21:36] <coderanger> sqlite should only ever have one or two open file handles
[11:21:57] <coderanger> you can use lsof to see what is using too many handles
[11:25:06] <coderanger> you could also raise the limit if you need
[11:26:04] <kmccabe> I'd rather not unless I have to--it worked fine before I upgraded.
[11:27:43] <coderanger> then I would recommend making a monitoring script that wakes up every few seconds, and dumps stats on how many handles each process has open
[11:28:25] <kmccabe> not a bad idea...
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[14:16:04] <[GuS]> Hi guys!!
[14:16:38] <coderanger> hello
[14:17:01] * PlasmaHH only sees [@]
[14:17:13] <[GuS]> i am having a problem installin trac in Ubuntu Edgy.... i've configured well SVN, it works.. shows me the 1st revision.. now.. after configured trac according to: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnUbuntu, i have this erro trying to acces: The user www-data requires read _and_ write permission to the database file /var/www/trac/opencoffee/db/trac.db and the directory it is located in
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[14:17:48] <[GuS]> and for sure that file have write read and permision...
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[14:17:58] <coderanger> [GuS]: Okay, and the containing folder?
[14:18:22] <[GuS]> let me recheck
[14:19:08] <[GuS]> ufff... i was little stupid :P
[14:19:10] <[GuS]> was that
[14:19:13] <[GuS]> the dir db
[14:19:23] <[GuS]> now works :D
[14:19:30] <[GuS]> coderanger, thanks
[14:20:10] <[GuS]> now, if i want use it, using python mod in apache... i only have to modify the apache vhost (and DAV)? cant i leave the svn and trac like it is?
[14:20:28] <[GuS]> (note: i've configured now using CGI method)
[14:21:03] <coderanger> well you can leave Subversion, as Trac has nothing to do with that
[14:21:11] <coderanger> you just change the Trac config
[14:21:56] <[GuS]> ok
[14:22:10] <[GuS]> thanks, i will try... because i wan to use it on existing vhost
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[14:27:02] <[GuS]> mm
[14:27:17] <[GuS]> setting with mod_python i have this when access to trac:
[14:27:19] <[GuS]> Internal Server Error!
[14:28:23] <PlasmaHH> checklogs
[14:28:48] <[GuS]> error 500
[14:28:50] <[GuS]> yes..
[14:30:16] <[GuS]> PythonHandler trac.ModPythonHandler: Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:30:27] <[GuS]> PythonHandler trac.ModPythonHandler: File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/mod_python/apache.py", line 287, in HandlerDispatch\n log=debug)
[14:30:29] <[GuS]> only that
[14:31:55] <coderanger> What version of Trac is that?
[14:32:03] <[GuS]> 0.10.2
[14:32:14] <coderanger> PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_handler
[14:32:18] <coderanger> @wiki TracModPython
[14:32:18] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython
[14:32:24] <[GuS]> ok
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[14:34:03] <[GuS]> coderanger, i have to had this enabled on apache: AddHandler cgi-script .cgi if i use mod_python too?
[14:34:18] <coderanger> no, though it won't do anything bad
[14:34:57] <[GuS]> ok
[14:36:01] <[GuS]> good! now works
[14:36:20] <[GuS]> thanks coderanger :D
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[15:05:04] <[GuS]> mm... i've configured not htpasswd for access... but how i config the users permision over Trac wiki for example?
[15:05:13] <[GuS]> i dont want to anybody modify tha pages
[15:05:48] <[GuS]> mm with TracPermissions
[15:05:54] <[GuS]> i have to read more
[15:07:19] <alect> morning
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[15:07:53] <[GuS]> hi =)
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[15:10:26] <coderanger> alect: Gmorn
[15:10:40] <alect> hey noah
[15:10:45] <alect> how was your holiday period?
[15:10:50] <coderanger> Still on it :)
[15:11:02] <coderanger> but good so far
[15:11:10] <coderanger> very much needed some downtime
[15:11:23] <alect> eeeeeeeexcellent
[15:14:22] <alect> been doing much trac haxoring?
[15:14:30] <alect> i have a couple of days off so i'm hacking hard
[15:15:02] <PlasmaHH> need some work? I have a few things you could implement ;)
[15:15:13] <alect> hah
[15:15:22] <alect> i've got plenty to keep me busy
[15:15:23] <PlasmaHH> (just in case you are bored)
[15:15:26] <coderanger> alect: I saw some permissionsy goodness
[15:15:28] <alect> security branch and workflow
[15:15:40] <alect> yeah! i'm liking the way security is going
[15:16:11] <alect> i don't like the nomenclature that cboos used at all though, so i'm going to harass him when he gets back
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[15:17:58] <alect> i imported tags too
[15:18:04] <alect> that was not fun
[15:18:08] <alect> svndumpfilter sucks the arse
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[15:29:03] <alect> lo matt
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[20:32:46] <alect> evening
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[21:14:51] <matt_good> hrm, anyone know where to set crypt() to use Blowfish instead of DES?
[21:16:44] <Zambezi> Do you know if it's protocolencryption?
[21:23:12] <matt_good> I'm not sure, someone's reporting problems using the AccountManager on FreeBSD, and it appears their htpasswd contains Blowfish encrypted passwords, so I'm trying to reproduce it
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[21:24:59] <alect> iirc it's maybe salting with $2 as the prefix or something like that
[21:25:00] <Zambezi> I haven't tried it. I'm using a really old version.
[21:26:42] <matt_good> alect: yeah, the $2$ or $2a$ indicates the algorithm, but I'm not sure how I'd set my system to use that by default
[21:27:07] <matt_good> he's indicating that using the "htpasswd" tool is generating files with those hashes
[21:30:10] <Zambezi> Is the encryption using AES algorithm?
[21:32:24] <matt_good> I don't think so
[21:43:23] <Zambezi> Not Blowfish right?
[22:10:40] <matt_good> this user appears to be using Blowfish, my system uses the standard DES-based crypt
[22:16:40] <coderanger> Is he sure its FBSD, I thought that was an OBSD thing
[22:19:35] <matt_good> coderanger: dunno, the info he provided says FreeBSD
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