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January 04, 2007

[00:00:40] <pergesu> does "./configure --with-apr=/usr/local/apr --with-apr-util=/usr/local/apr --without-neon PYTHON=/usr/bin/python" look good?
[00:00:58] <Ersan> yea
[00:03:23] <pergesu> also I've created a svn.pth file in site-packages, it has /usr/local/lib/svn-python..I should have that, right?
[00:03:42] <coderanger> yep, that part worked or it wouldnt have shown an error
[00:03:52] <pergesu> okay cool
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[00:19:29] <Eridius> if I do a trac-admin initenv will it futz with my trac.ini, or just the database?
[00:19:36] <Eridius> this is on an already-existing trac project
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[00:20:27] <coderanger> make it in a new folder, then copy over the trac.ini
[00:24:11] <Eridius> hrm, good point
[00:26:50] <pergesu> hey guys I'm pleased to say I got it working :)
[00:26:53] <pergesu> thanks for the help
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[00:35:52] <asmodai> morning coderanger
[00:36:19] <coderanger> gnite :)
[00:36:29] <asmodai> Going to bed?
[00:37:29] <coderanger> yeah
[00:37:37] <coderanger> its 3.5 AM over here
[00:38:50] <asmodai> Well, gnite :)
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[00:52:36] <pergesu> I'm trying to get it working with mod_python now
[00:53:12] <pergesu> and it says to create a <Location block
[00:53:28] <pergesu> but I think that's not all I have to do..
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[00:58:22] <foxpaul> hi all - i've never worked with sqlite before, so i'm just wondering how to access data from my trac db's? ie i want to get a list of all bugs assigned to me?
[00:59:33] <alect> sqlite3 <trac-env>/db/trac.db
[00:59:35] <alect> .schema
[00:59:41] <alect> normal sql from tehre
[01:03:45] <foxpaul> alect, ah cool - thanks
[01:05:59] <pergesu> to get this to work with mod_python, do I need to set up an alias or anything?
[01:08:27] <asmodai> alect: DUDE
[01:08:36] <asmodai> (finally on a time when he can still react)
[01:10:24] <alect> hey hey
[01:10:25] <alect> :)
[01:10:29] <alect> how goes it asmodai?
[01:10:32] <alect> have a good new year?
[01:11:06] <asmodai> Thus far yeah, possible new job in the pipeline.
[01:11:13] <asmodai> alect: what about yourself?
[01:11:53] <alect> i thought you just started a new job?
[01:12:04] <alect> mine was okay, except i had a cold
[01:12:07] <alect> goddamit
[01:12:09] <asmodai> nah, still at uni
[01:12:17] <asmodai> the job at uni that is
[01:12:21] <alect> aaaah
[01:13:06] <asmodai> :)
[01:13:16] <asmodai> Just getting a bit very fed up by now.
[01:14:12] <alect> with uni?
[01:14:42] <asmodai> Erasmus uni in Rotterdam, NL
[01:17:16] <asmodai> alect: Doing lots of stuff on electronic publication
[01:18:15] <alect> cool. what does the new job involve?
[01:18:53] <asmodai> Basically back to the hosting business.
[01:18:59] <asmodai> If I get hired of course.
[01:21:00] <alect> woooh, paco has been busy today
[01:27:40] <alect> strange how so many people register on trac-hacks for no discernible reason
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[01:29:38] <pygi> alect, :P
[01:32:13] <alect> anybody using discussion plugin?
[01:32:18] <alect> is it cool or not?
[01:32:23] <asmodai> got to love some comments of people on blogs:
[01:32:24] <asmodai> Contributing in C++ or some higher level language (Ruby for instance, it eats Python for breakfast)
[01:32:35] <alect> hehe
[01:32:36] <asmodai> Last I saw benchmarks Python was actually eating Ruby
[01:32:52] <asmodai> And I think Matz from Ruby even confirmed Ruby has some parser issues.
[01:33:02] <asmodai> Resulting in speed problems.
[01:33:57] <pygi> alect, I am using it...
[01:34:02] <alect> i'm thinking of enabling discussionplugin on trac-hacks
[01:34:09] <alect> give each hack its own forum
[01:34:10] <pygi> alect, it's good, but people don't really like it, and it has some problems
[01:34:11] <alect> pygi: any good?
[01:34:22] <alect> why don't they like it?
[01:34:32] <alect> it looks like it could use some polish
[01:34:33] <pygi> alect, for example, it doesn't count threads until they have a reply (I mean ... :P)
[01:34:41] <pygi> alect, it could indeed use polish :P
[01:35:01] <alect> aah
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[01:35:06] <alect> count threads where?
[01:36:00] <pygi> alect, well, for example ... in category "General discussion" you have 30 threads, with no reply in neither of them ....
[01:36:13] <pygi> in the forum index, it'll show you there are no threads in "General discussion"
[01:36:19] <alect> aah
[01:36:28] <alect> right
[01:36:53] <pygi> so that's a bug I would say :)
[01:37:07] <alect> i'd like to see a topic expansion macro
[01:37:13] <alect> so you could embed discussion in a wiki page
[01:37:35] <pygi> it could also need some improvements, like show if there were any replies and where since you last logined, subscriptions, and such
[01:37:36] <pygi> http://www.exaile.org/trac/discussion
[01:37:47] <alect> i think it does that now
[01:37:57] <alect> new topics seem to have red borders
[01:38:01] <alect> ah, you mean in the index
[01:38:02] <alect> yeah
[01:38:22] <asmodai> Holy shit
[01:38:24] <asmodai> ARGH
[01:38:27] <asmodai> http://www.exaile.org/trac/discussion/1/1
[01:38:30] <pygi> alect, well, red borders = bad notification :P
[01:38:32] <asmodai> Does that look ugly or what
[01:38:48] <asmodai> It's like looking at a guru meditation
[01:38:52] <alect> yeah it sure does
[01:39:26] <alect> strange how it says "Forum #1 - Topic #1" instead of the forum /topic names
[01:39:43] <alect> be cool if it used tags too
[01:39:48] <pygi> alect, well, that's the discussion plugin :P
[01:40:36] <alect> looks like most functionality is there, just needs polish
[01:40:46] * pygi thinks it could need a lot of polish ^_^
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[01:41:02] <asmodai> What do the Polish have to do with it? :P
[01:41:03] <alect> hehe
[01:41:10] <alect> haha, boom boom
[01:41:27] <pygi> alect, I'll have to take some time to polish it anyway some time this year as I need the plugin
[01:41:32] <alect> excellent
[01:41:37] <alect> let me know when you do :)
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[01:41:40] <pygi> dunno if that is maintained anyway
[01:41:46] <alect> http://www.exaile.org/trac/discussion/2/7
[01:41:48] <pygi> alect, ehm, it might take 364 days :P
[01:41:50] <alect> ^^ that's a good summary
[01:41:55] <alect> of some of the problems
[01:42:11] <pygi> I agree
[01:42:20] <pygi> but you just noted good thing: "some' :)
[01:42:34] <alect> i like your theme, very nice
[01:42:42] <pygi> alect, do you know if discussion plugin is maintained ?
[01:42:43] <pygi> :-D
[01:42:55] <alect> blackhex is still around i believe
[01:42:57] <pygi> I don't like it too much, navigation links are too wide :P
[01:42:58] <alect> just not that often
[01:43:10] <pygi> so that has to be fixed, otherwise fine
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[01:44:18] <alect> those red borders are like hot pokers in my eyes
[01:45:14] <pygi> alect, :P
[01:45:20] <pygi> I think border should be removed IHMO
[01:45:35] <pygi> do something like "5 new replies waiting for you"
[01:45:39] <pygi> when you click, you get list :P
[01:45:59] <alect> that would be good too
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[01:46:07] <alect> the concept of highlighting new messages is not a bad one
[01:46:08] <pygi> I had discussion plugin on http://libburnia.pykix.org too, but I removed it
[01:46:11] <alect> just the gliness
[01:46:13] <pygi> didn't fit good
[01:46:18] <alect> ugliness
[01:46:22] <pygi> yea, well:)
[01:46:36] <pygi> we could create discussion-ng :P
[01:47:53] <alect> aaaaah
[01:47:59] <alect> it does have embedded discussions
[01:48:01] <alect> cunning
[01:48:10] <pygi> ^_^
[01:48:42] <alect> [[TopicView]]
[01:48:46] <pygi> I know
[01:48:53] <alect> err, ViewTopic
[01:49:13] <alect> looks a bit...ugly though
[01:50:57] * asmodai needs to find this idiotic whitespace on his site
[01:51:07] <asmodai> I messed up some CSS somewhere can fsck if I can find it
[01:52:01] <pygi> alect, well ...
[01:52:20] <pygi> alect, perhaps it should have the ability of theme-ing
[01:52:30] <pygi> so one could make it fit trac template
[01:52:32] <pergesu> have any of you guys hooked trac up to apache with mod_python?
[01:52:38] <pygi> pergesu, ofcourse
[01:52:53] * pygi is not an expert but he can help perhaps
[01:53:29] <pergesu> pygi: well I'm not even sure where to begin to tell you the truth. I'm reading http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython
[01:53:41] <pergesu> but if I set <Location /trac> it just gives me 404s
[01:53:46] <pergesu> so I don't know if I need to alias something?
[01:53:49] <alect> screenshot plugin looks quite cool too
[01:53:54] <pygi> alect, but I guess plugin should be modified to run on 0.11 in the process as well
[01:54:01] <pygi> alect, screenshot plugin rocks
[01:54:11] <pygi> alect, you can see it on the exaile page
[01:54:16] <pygi> pergesu, that's just an example :)
[01:54:27] <alect> yeah so i noticed
[01:55:08] <pergesu> pygi: well..what am I supposed to do?
[01:55:24] <pygi> pergesu, well, where do you want your trac to be located?
[01:55:41] <pergesu> /trac
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[01:56:00] <pergesu> (the http path anyway. the trac project is in a different location on the filesystem)
[01:56:02] <pygi> pergesu, right, but which domain/subdomain?
[01:56:21] <pergesu> it can be global, it doesn't matter
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[01:57:06] <pygi> pergesu, lemme give you an example of how I did it
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[01:57:21] <pygi> or way how you should :P
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[01:57:37] <skar> hi all, got a doubt about hg to svn migration, could be OT, still...
[01:57:54] <skar> is there a way in svn to pull a particular changeset of a single file among many changes in a revision, preserving the owner of that change?
[01:58:14] <pygi> pergesu, http://rafb.net/p/Zdqvda74.html
[01:58:17] <pygi> I guess this should help
[01:58:49] <pygi> skar, I guess you could checkout one file, yes
[01:59:37] <pergesu> http://rafb.net/p/aU1zA373.html is mine
[02:00:01] <pergesu> but if I go to http://mydomain.com/trac it's just a 404
[02:00:04] <skar> hmm any idea on how to do it? say files a,b,c were added 1 line in r3, and i want just to co file c alone, still maintaining the ownership?
[02:00:17] <pygi> pergesu, I've just told you what to use :P
[02:00:18] <pygi> try that
[02:00:27] <skar> run "svn update /path/to/file/c"?
[02:01:19] <pygi> I guess so, I never tried actually to do that :P
[02:01:41] <skar> pygi: thanks anyway, will try that :)
[02:01:46] <pygi> skar, yw :P
[02:02:10] <pygi> pergesu, in server name put mydomain.com/trac
[02:02:39] <pergesu> okay it's still 404ing, but the logs say "[error] [client 67.42.243.177] Attempt to serve directory: /usr/local/twistage/"
[02:02:54] <pergesu> /usr/local/twistage is where the trac project is located
[02:03:02] <pygi> I don't know what you did, really :P
[02:03:41] <pergesu> I did what you told me, I just made the docroot /usr/local/twistage
[02:04:23] <pygi> not that, permissions and stuff
[02:04:37] <pygi> alect, awake and try to help :)
[02:04:41] <pygi> you know more then I do :P
[02:05:01] <alect> what what?!1
[02:06:06] <pergesu> /usr/local/twistage is owned by apache
[02:06:16] <pygi> alect, help the pergesu setting mod_python :P
[02:06:25] <pergesu> and also I've gotten it running with cgi...but it's slow
[02:06:44] <pergesu> so the permissions should be good (I would guess. maybe it's different when mod_python runs?)
[02:07:03] <alect> i don't use mod_python anymore
[02:07:12] <alect> @wiki TracModPython
[02:07:12] <evil_twin> alect: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython
[02:07:18] <pygi> alect, he knows about that :P
[02:07:28] <alect> that page has cool!
[02:07:44] <pygi> alect <-- read pm :P
[02:07:49] <alect> if it's not working, it's almost guaranteed that you're diverging from the config in some way
[02:08:40] <pergesu> I'm really not
[02:19:12] <pergesu> okay just to be clear, /usr/local/twistage is where I created the project. so trac-admin /usr/local/twistage initenv
[02:19:18] <pergesu> and that's what I'm supposed to use, right?
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[02:22:24] <pygi> yup
[02:23:46] <thm> it would be nice if someone could merge trunk to the setuptools (or the other way round of course :) )
[02:26:15] <thm> ^ insert a 'branch'
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[02:30:04] <asmodai> mmm
[02:30:30] <thm> but I guess that's a q for cmlenz
[02:30:48] <asmodai> blockUI is nice (on the jquery site), only issue is that it reminds me of those old applications that essentially locked up your entire application while it goes off to do something
[02:38:12] <pergesu> okay can you guys take a quick look at my config? http://rafb.net/p/xE0oR666.html
[02:38:45] <pergesu> a request gives me a 404, and the error log says Attempt to serve directory: /usr/local/twistage/
[02:38:52] <alect> that's quite cool asmodai
[02:42:54] <alect> try removing your trailing slashes
[02:47:39] <pergesu> http://rafb.net/p/cnGMua92.html is the config
[02:48:00] <pergesu> and it's still giving that "attempt to serve directory" error
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[03:07:17] <Ersan> what's the difference between severity and priority :(
[03:07:39] <pygi> Ersan, severity --> how often does the problem appear
[03:07:49] <pygi> priority --> how important feature/bugfix is to the dev team
[03:08:02] <Ersan> hm
[03:08:04] <Ersan> k
[03:14:03] <asmodai> alect: http://www.malsup.com/jquery/block/
[03:14:17] <asmodai> alect: That's the one I mean. But it completely blocks any user interaction
[03:15:14] <asmodai> heh: Yes, resetForm does a fn test before invocation (which is a pain in IE
[03:15:15] <asmodai> because IE reports that the reset method is an 'object'!)
[03:15:33] <Ersan> um
[03:15:39] <Ersan> that's ridiculously simple
[03:17:20] <asmodai> http://www.andrewdupont.net/2006/05/18/javascript-associative-arrays-considered-harmful/
[03:19:03] <thm> the notification mails sent by my trac installation don't contain the project's url, although it's set in the config file's [project] section. any hints?
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[03:35:33] <asmodai> tenshi eh
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[03:58:39] <GingerDog> hi; is there any way to change the resolutions on tickets? (e.g. add 'Waiting Acceptance') ?
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[04:11:25] <asmodai> alect: think of the roadmap as the mirror of galadriel. it shows things which were, which are, and what may yet come to pass. still, it shows some things which may never happen at all, if the circumstances change.
[04:11:30] <asmodai> alect: Now that's a good quote
[04:12:32] <alect> hehe
[04:12:35] <alect> i like it :)
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[04:31:11] <m_g> assuming i have a vhost dedicated to trac which has a DocumentRoot entry and trac configured at <Location /> there's no way for a user to access files from the DocumentRoot, right?
[04:39:48] <asmodai> alect: IBM reworked their survey software well
[04:39:57] <asmodai> alect: normally on websites you'd get redirected and all that
[04:40:17] <alect> whassat?
[04:40:19] <asmodai> alect: IBM now displays a nice javascript window which apparently works through AJAX for the storing of answers
[04:40:33] <alect> aah
[04:40:35] <asmodai> alect: perhaps you get it when you go to http://www-306.ibm.com/software/globalization/index.jsp
[04:41:58] <asmodai> I mean, not all web2.0 uses are great, but this felt like a good step forward instead of interrupting people by forcing them to some external website.
[04:42:07] <asmodai> this *really* was a 1-2 minute thingy.
[04:44:01] <alect> where's the survey?
[04:44:06] * alect is not seeing it
[04:44:15] <asmodai> Mmm, perhaps it pops up every once in a while
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[07:34:08] <pygi> hello folks
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[08:45:31] <pacopablo> morning
[08:46:35] <LionsMane> Morning.
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[09:01:19] <kevc> does anyone know if an updates sourceforge2trac.py exists?
[09:01:30] <kevc> seems broken with the current release
[09:02:02] <pygi> what is broken?
[09:02:09] <pygi> and where do you find such thing anyway :P
[09:02:17] <kevc> "Error: no such column: kind"
[09:02:25] <kevc> looks like the db schema's been updated
[09:02:33] <kevc> pygi: on the trac site ;)
[09:03:12] <pygi> o, really :P
[09:05:20] <kevc> pygi: http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/contrib/sourceforge2trac.py
[09:05:28] <kevc> it's also in the contrib with the debian package
[09:05:29] <pygi> I know, I know :)
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[09:07:26] <pygi> kemik, no column on sf page or?
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[09:17:58] <wardi> How do I stop robots from crawling wiki/foo?version=bar ?
[09:18:23] <pygi> @RobotsTxt
[09:18:23] <evil_twin> pygi: Error: "RobotsTxt" is not a valid command.
[09:18:29] <pygi> @hacks
[09:18:29] <evil_twin> pygi: "hacks" is http://trac-hacks.org <-- Plugins, Macros, etc.
[09:18:37] <pygi> wardi, robotstxt plugin on above page
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[09:20:47] <wardi> pygi: I already serve a robots.txt file.. there's no way to Disallow /myproject/wiki/*?version=*
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[09:23:07] <wardi> should I try hacking a rel="nofollow" into the <a href>'s?
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[09:24:53] <pbx> wardi: Might even be worth a patch submission if you find a hack/fix that you like. I often end up getting old rev pages in Google searches when I don't want them.
[09:26:07] <wardi> pbx: I just don't want to dilute my page rank because I have N versions of almost the same thing
[09:26:45] <wardi> pbx: having links to stale versions is also bad
[09:26:55] <pbx> wardi: Complete agreement
[09:28:42] <wardi> if there was a different first-part of the url for old versions it would be easy to add it to robots.txt.. Say "/wiki_revision/"
[09:29:15] <wardi> rel="nofollow" isn't really intended to be used in this way
[09:29:59] <wardi> I could do it with some apache rewriting
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[09:42:46] <boorad> coderanger or pacopablo: you guys know any way I could have a /projects/(.*)/docs area of the Trac env just serve static HTML? I'm using mod_python, and can do SetHandler None, but how do I map the Directory?
[09:43:36] <boorad> pacopablo: Hmm, you're not using Apache, forgot 'bout that
[09:45:35] <wardi> boorad: your docroot just needs to have a projects directory in it
[09:45:54] <boorad> wardi: ??
[09:46:05] <wardi> if handler is none it will look for files in your docroot
[09:46:18] <boorad> ok
[09:46:25] <wardi> DocumentRoot I mean
[09:46:48] <boorad> inside that LocationMatch, can I do a Directory based on the (.*) ??
[09:47:05] <wardi> oh.. then you need to use rewriting
[09:47:29] <boorad> ick, was trying to avoid...
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[09:54:18] <pergesu> we currently have a wiki set up on tikiwiki, and want to move it to Trac. Is there an easy way to convert it?
[09:59:39] <pygi> I don''t think so
[10:03:14] <wardi> pergesu: you can import pages using "trac-admin (site-dir) wiki import"
[10:03:39] <wardi> so if you can get your pages as text you could move them over with a little shell script
[10:04:28] <pergesu> okay cool
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[10:21:04] <pergesu> wardi: where can I find what format the pages need to be?
[10:21:13] <pergesu> to import them
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[10:25:11] <retracile> pergesu: the import expects the pages to be in the trac wiki markup.
[10:27:02] <boorad> wardi: fyi, AliasMatch worked like a champ here
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[10:43:40] <ehird> is there a trac mod to make it use GIT instead of SVN?
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[10:46:38] <retracile> ehird: google for "trac git" and follow the first link to http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracGitPlugin
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[10:47:12] <ehird> retracile: whoopsie
[10:47:15] <dstarh> Is there a post, submit plugin point for trac tickts? we want a user friendly way to preserve user line breaks, without them having to add the {{{}}}, basicly I want to replace /n with [[BR]]
[10:47:29] <ehird> "This plugin is in every definition a hack: because git lacks a "libgit" or any kind of library, the plugin simply calls the git program and parses the output. This is ridiculously inefficient, but does work for the time being." ook
[10:48:11] <ehird> http://trac-hacks.org/svn/tracgitplugin/ <-- interesting it's empty
[10:48:30] <retracile> ehird: there's a link to another gitplugin on that page, and that one says it's a proof of concept....
[10:48:39] <ehird> wonderful support :p
[10:48:44] <ehird> (of git that is)
[10:49:03] <retracile> ehird: I haven't tried to use trac+git, so I can't vouch for any of them.
[10:49:21] <retracile> But trac-hacks.org is the place to look for that kind of thing.
[10:49:33] <ehird> alright
[10:49:47] <retracile> ehird: if you aren't tied to git, there are some other backends supported, though I haven't used them.
[10:50:00] <ehird> retracile: git seems to be good to me
[10:50:21] <ehird> more transparency than svn - "if it looks like a previous file and talks like a previous file it's probably moved"
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[10:52:37] <retracile> ehird: git's interesting... then again, I find a lot of source control systems to be interesting.... monotone, hg, bzr, etc.
[10:52:55] <retracile> ...but I'm using svn for now.
[10:53:05] <ehird> .. however cg init isn't worki