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January 15, 2007

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[02:56:27] <New2Symfony> hi
[02:56:57] <New2Symfony> i would like to know if there's a way to share users between several environment ?
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[03:59:56] <ehird> yes
[04:00:06] <ehird> if youre using tracd
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[04:07:23] <ehird> how can i get the project logo in the index template?
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[04:47:20] <alect> hi
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[04:51:13] <cerw> SyntaxError: encoding problem: with BOM
[04:51:19] <cerw> what does this mean/
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[04:53:11] <ehird> anybody?
[04:53:54] <alect> ehird: for 0.11 there's a template you can override i believe
[04:54:00] <ehird> nope, 0.10
[04:54:02] <alect> i don't think it's possibl eunder 0.10
[04:54:03] <ehird> but i'm editing index.c
[04:54:04] <ehird> s
[04:54:08] <ehird> which has the list of projects
[04:54:08] <alect> ah
[04:54:09] <alect> cool
[04:54:11] <ehird> and i can get link, title, etc
[04:54:15] <ehird> but i don't know how to get the logo url
[04:54:34] <alect> tried ?hdfdump=1 ?
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[04:56:56] <ehird> argh, only href, name, description
[04:57:00] <ehird> that sucks
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[04:57:25] <ehird> i wonder how _why does it
[04:57:32] <ehird> see: http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/
[04:57:42] <alect> well you could just hardcode it
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[04:58:35] <ehird> ouch
[04:59:10] <alect> it's not a big deal
[04:59:11] * alect shrugs
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[04:59:39] <alect> ah i see
[05:05:08] <New2Symfony> ehird: i'm not using tracd. i'm using trac in CGI
[05:05:20] <ehird> New2Symfony: just plain CGI? you're crazy
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[05:08:42] <New2Symfony> why ? perhaps a bit slower...
[05:08:53] <ehird> no, no, CGI is slow as a pig and is hell
[05:08:56] <ehird> FastCGI is the way.
[05:09:09] <ehird> [or tracd if you're like me and like running stuff weirdly]
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[05:11:46] <New2Symfony> ok. and what about my question. Share users between environment in CGI/Fast CGI... is it possible ?
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[05:13:17] <ehird> mayb
[05:13:22] <ehird> but i only know of the tracd way
[05:13:26] <ehird> which is just a commandline option
[05:13:34] <ehird> pointing to a file somewhere else
[05:13:38] <ehird> and you just add the users to that file
[05:14:27] <ehird> the command in tracd:
[05:14:48] <ehird> tracd --env-parent-dir /my/trac/sites --auth \*,/my/trac/sites/users.htdigest,myrealm
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[05:18:57] <New2Symfony> ca doit être ça http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracCgi#AddingAuthentication
[05:18:59] <New2Symfony> huuuuu
[05:19:06] <New2Symfony> sorry for the french :)
[05:19:12] <New2Symfony> it must be that http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracCgi#AddingAuthentication
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[05:45:06] <cerw> ok so nobodyt knows what this is : encoding problem: with BOM?
[05:53:34] <alect> @logging
[05:53:34] <evil_twin> alect: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[05:53:38] <alect> enable logging, check the backtrace
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[06:23:09] <cerw> which type of permission user needs to have to showin DROPdOWN manu when assinging to ticket?
[06:23:17] <cerw> i see only two admin users not the rest
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[06:32:15] <alect> @tracini
[06:32:15] <evil_twin> alect: "tracini" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni
[06:32:37] <alect> cerw: users need to login first before they will show up
[06:33:23] <cerw> jsut foudn out
[06:33:28] <cerw> they they also need to fill in Setting
[06:33:36] <cerw> ohterwise they WILL NOT be showned
[06:33:43] <Hydra> Hey guys
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[06:34:09] <Hydra> I've just upgraded to 0.10.3dev because I was getting the issue mentioned here: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4132
[06:34:14] <Hydra> and I *still* get the issue
[06:34:40] <Hydra> I've verified that the page served has the same version number on it - before I was on 0.10.2
[06:35:46] <cerw> did u relaod apache?
[06:35:55] <Hydra> 1 sec, i'll restart it
[06:36:18] <Hydra> aha.. 1 sec
[06:36:22] <Hydra> let me refresh a few times
[06:36:34] <Hydra> seems to be ok now
[06:36:40] <Hydra> why did i need to restart apache?
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[06:40:47] <cerw> mod_pythoin
[06:41:02] <cerw> preloads python into memory
[06:41:10] <cerw> or precompled.. one of them :_0
[06:41:18] <Hydra> ok
[06:41:25] <Hydra> thanks for the tip, much appreciated
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[06:49:19] <coderanger> more that it doesn't reimport after the first time it sees something
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[06:49:33] <coderanger> in the future you don't need a full server bounce, just a HUP
[06:50:33] <alect> lo coderanger
[06:50:41] <coderanger> g'morning
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[06:56:57] <cerw> i have loging on DEBUG
[06:57:01] <cerw> but when i do change to ticket
[06:57:08] <cerw> there is noting about notification
[06:57:16] <cerw> even that all is enabled
[06:57:24] <coderanger> lisppaste5: url
[06:57:24] <lisppaste5> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste.
[07:00:28] <coderanger> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070114093427179 - An Australian lawyer looks at the BSD license
[07:01:08] <coderanger> Interesting if nothing else
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[07:32:00] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: i've no time for reading. what does it say?
[07:32:41] <coderanger> that it could be viewed as almost as restrictive w.r.t. license propagation and source availability as the GPL
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[07:33:07] <coderanger> mostly due to very legally ambiguous wording
[07:39:08] <pacopablo> morning
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[08:39:11] <Igloo> Is it possible to subscribe to a wiki page in trac?
[08:43:49] <pygi> plugin
[08:43:51] <pygi> @hacks
[08:43:51] <evil_twin> pygi: "hacks" is http://trac-hacks.org <-- Plugins, Macros, etc.
[08:43:51] <pacopablo> not currently
[08:43:59] <pygi> pacopablo, isn't there a plugin? :-/
[08:44:07] * pygi thought there was
[08:44:10] <pacopablo> maybe
[08:44:28] <Igloo> Plugin is no good for me
[08:44:32] <Igloo> Thanks for your help
[08:44:33] <pygi> Igloo, heh
[08:44:40] <pacopablo> why would a plugin not be good for you?
[08:44:46] <pygi> I also don't get it xD
[08:45:11] <Igloo> Because the effort of getting someone to install the plugin would be outweigh reloading the page once a day
[08:45:45] <pygi> installing plugin = 5 secs :)
[08:45:45] <pacopablo> well, I don't see a plugin anyway :)
[08:45:49] <pygi> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/WikiNotifyScript
[08:45:50] <pygi> pacopablo, ? :)
[08:46:07] <pacopablo> pygi: unless you don't have rights to install plugins
[08:46:29] <pacopablo> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/WikiNotificationPlugin
[08:46:35] <pygi> pacopablo, that's right :)
[08:46:36] <pacopablo> that one too, guess I'm blind this morning
[08:46:41] <pygi> :)
[08:46:59] <pygi> the plugin being better probably ^_^
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[09:18:24] <retracile> matt_good: ping
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[09:56:35] <Minuo> Can anyone give me a hand getting AccountManager running? I'm running Trac on FastCGI behind Lighttpd, I have installed and configured webadmin, but the LoginModule isn't showing up in WebAdmin for me to enable
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[09:56:55] <Minuo> nor is the AccountManager AdminPage
[09:57:15] <davedave> is there any way to bulk, reassign tickets?
[09:57:17] <Minuo> all I get is AccountManager, AbstractPasswordFileStore, HTDigestStore, HTPasswordStore and HttpAuthStore
[09:57:36] <davedave> we need to change alot of usernames and we'll want to re-assign tickets after that happens
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[10:15:01] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: ping
[10:15:13] <LionsMane> pong
[10:15:21] <LionsMane> :)
[10:15:34] <mitsuhiko> LionsMane == coderanger ?
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[10:22:58] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: anyway. have a look at the drupal-5 "what's new" screencast
[10:23:06] <coderanger> yo
[10:23:13] <mitsuhiko> (the part about themes)
[10:23:33] <coderanger> got a link?
[10:23:41] <mitsuhiko> sec
[10:24:24] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: http://drupal.org/videocasts/whats-new-in-5
[10:25:36] <LionsMane> mitsuhiko: Not at all.
[10:25:47] <LionsMane> mitsuhiko: just goofing off.
[10:26:09] <mitsuhiko> LionsMane: some people are online twice in a channel
[10:26:24] <mitsuhiko> (mitsuhiko, blackbird | Windle, benbangert) etc
[10:27:41] <coderanger> mitsuhiko: Thats really cool
[10:28:10] <coderanger> Hmm, is drupal BSD licensed? :)
[10:28:22] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: i think yes
[10:28:49] <LionsMane> I thought that might be the case, mitsuhiko. I wasn't so worried about that in any case. Sorry for the confusion.
[10:29:01] <mitsuhiko> np :)
[10:29:25] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: but in that case trac would probably need PIL or a image library written in python
[10:29:41] <coderanger> mitsuhiko: For what?
[10:31:03] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: the theme generation
[10:31:06] <mitsuhiko> see the screencaset
[10:31:08] <mitsuhiko> *screencast
[10:31:25] <coderanger> only for doing the gradients
[10:31:43] <coderanger> the rest is just JS and autogenerated CSS it looks like
[10:32:45] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: yeah
[10:32:54] <mitsuhiko> but the idea rocks
[10:35:02] <coderanger> Drupal is one of those things I want to like, if only it were in PHP
[10:35:22] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: it is php ;)
[10:35:34] <coderanger> er, werent
[10:35:37] <mitsuhiko> yeah. but drupal as python or ruby software would really rock
[10:36:35] <pygi> let's stop it xD
[10:38:10] <pygi> ergh, why wouldn't we rewrite entire world to whitespacea??
[10:38:14] <pygi> whitespace*
[10:38:22] <pygi> I think It would rock xD
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[10:44:14] <coderanger> the trouble is that it only has as a single IO stream
[10:45:19] <coderanger> Though I have considered trying to do a CGI script with it before
[10:45:43] <coderanger> I'm still waiting for someone to make a COBOL web server, that would kick ass
[10:46:04] * pygi suggests coderanger to do so xD
[10:46:34] <coderanger> heh, too many other things to do that are slightly less silly
[10:47:14] <pygi> yesh, like that translation thingy plugin :)
[10:47:24] <coderanger> also tracforge and themes
[10:47:30] <coderanger> and some other super secret projects :)
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[11:21:55] <jtreglos> hi
[11:24:57] <jtreglos> I'm setting up a Trac environment on a Linux box (running Apache), and I'm trying to configure it as a virtual host that supports multiple projects, as documented in the Trac documentation... But I'm having trouble understanding what to set the AuthUserFile to in the <Location /login> directive... Has done that ?
[11:25:16] <jtreglos> has ANYONE done that, sorry
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[11:26:54] <jborg> howdy
[11:29:10] <coderanger> jborg: g'morning
[11:29:35] <coderanger> jtreglos: The path to your htpasswd file
[11:30:27] <jtreglos> coderanger: yeah but what if I want a different password file for each project ?
[11:30:47] <coderanger> jtreglos: Then you need a different <Location> block for each project
[11:30:57] <jtreglos> ouch
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[11:31:13] <coderanger> jtreglos: You may want to look at AccountManager
[11:31:26] <jtreglos> AccountManager ? what's that ?
[11:31:35] <coderanger> A plugin on trac-hacks
[11:31:59] <jtreglos> k, gonna check that out, thx
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[12:11:07] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: arround?
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[12:11:17] <coderanger> yahr
[12:11:22] <s0undt3ch> I'm in need of a python "hack"
[12:11:37] <coderanger> uh oh
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[12:11:57] <s0undt3ch> I'd like to build an object that would act as a dict, but we could acess the keys as attrs
[12:12:01] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: he hehe
[12:12:10] <s0undt3ch> like for example
[12:12:16] <s0undt3ch> foo = {}
[12:12:26] <s0undt3ch> foo.bar = 'blah'
[12:12:33] <s0undt3ch> repr(foo)
[12:12:45] <s0undt3ch> {'bar': 'blah'}
[12:12:46] <s0undt3ch> etc
[12:13:10] <s0undt3ch> I know this might be way simple, but I can seem to get the right doc to learn how to do it
[12:13:19] <s0undt3ch> *can't
[12:13:37] <coderanger> class Blah(dict): def __getattr__(self, key): return self[key] \n def __setattr__(self, key, val): self[key] = val
[12:13:51] <s0undt3ch> hmm, k, trying that
[12:15:35] <pacopablo> s0undt3ch: I've got an AttrDict class that does that exact thing
[12:15:47] <pacopablo> I'll send it to you if you want
[12:15:52] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: you do!? :) available online?
[12:16:00] <coderanger> pacopablo: What more do you need than that?
[12:16:06] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: b.foo = {}
[12:16:12] <s0undt3ch> b.foo.bar = 'blah'
[12:16:16] <s0undt3ch> AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'bar'
[12:16:25] <coderanger> You mean b.foo = Blah()
[12:16:30] <pacopablo> s0undt3ch: what email should I send it to?
[12:16:31] <s0undt3ch> ah
[12:16:38] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: ufs@ufsoft.org
[12:16:45] <coderanger> you could inject the methods into dict itself, but that gets messy
[12:17:08] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: well, that does solve my problem ;)
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[12:17:17] <s0undt3ch> and I'll also look at pacopablo's code
[12:18:19] <wkornewald> alect: hi, could you please change the openid module owner from "wkornew" to "cygnus"?
[12:18:51] <wkornewald> oops...
[12:18:55] <coderanger> wkornewald: He is probably sleeping, but one sec
[12:19:09] <wkornewald> who has access to trac-hacks?
[12:19:22] <coderanger> I do
[12:19:33] <wkornewald> could you please change the owner?
[12:19:47] <wkornewald> cygnus has taken over all the tasks
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[12:20:13] <coderanger> Yeah, one sec, can't do that from webadmin
[12:21:09] <wkornewald> thanks
[12:21:35] <coderanger> done
[12:21:48] <wkornewald> yepee!
[12:21:56] <wkornewald> one burden less on my sholders :)
[12:22:04] <wkornewald> shoulders
[12:22:10] <wkornewald> ?hmm...
[12:22:11] <wkornewald> :)
[12:22:25] <deviantintegral> what is the best way to determine the cause of an internal error raised by trac?
[12:22:36] <pacopablo> deviantintegral: look in the log
[12:22:54] <deviantintegral> pacopablo: apache log?
[12:22:58] <coderanger> the trac log
[12:23:04] <coderanger> it will have a traceback
[12:23:09] <pacopablo> @faw logging
[12:23:09] <evil_twin> pacopablo: Error: "faw" is not a valid command.
[12:23:13] <pacopablo> @faq logging
[12:23:13] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
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[12:23:15] <deviantintegral> ah cool
[12:25:04] <deviantintegral> hmm, so I'm getting the same thing as was printed to the page: 2007-01-15 15:21:17,117 Trac[main] WARNING: 500 Internal Error (expected integer, got u'33,554,432')
[12:25:27] <deviantintegral> this is when I'm attempting to upload an attachment
[12:25:57] <coderanger> spamfilter installed?
[12:26:01] <coderanger> ahh, no
[12:26:09] <coderanger> your max attachment size
[12:26:13] <coderanger> you put commas in it
[12:26:16] <coderanger> (i bet)
[12:26:22] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: got the mail, thanks!
[12:26:26] <pacopablo> s0undt3ch: np
[12:27:27] <deviantintegral> coderanger: lol, that was it. Teaches me to copy and paste from Calculator.app! tyvm
[12:27:28] <jtreglos> stupid question : how can I know the kind of HTTP error i'm confronted with when using Firefox ? I get a page with a message error, but i don't know if its a 500, 503 or 404 error !
[12:27:54] <coderanger> jtreglos: LiveHTTPHeaders should show you
[12:28:06] <jtreglos> that's a plugin for FF ?
[12:28:23] <coderanger> yeah
[12:28:40] <jtreglos> k thx
[12:29:40] <coderanger> webdeveloper does too
[12:30:27] <jtreglos> Really ? I already have it, but i searched a bit and couldn't find anything that did in the different menus
[12:31:00] <coderanger> last item in the "Information" manu
[12:31:23] <jtreglos> awesome thx :D
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[12:31:39] <coderanger> firebug can probably show you too for that matter
[12:31:58] <jtreglos> got that one too... guess i don't know my tools ;)
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[12:37:05] <jtreglos> last OT question ;) I just added a subdomain CNAME entry in my DNS table, but its gonna take some time to propagate. But I want to test my Virtual Host configuration now, is there a way to temporarily add the route to my computer so it will work from here ? I'm testing from a windows xp box
[12:37:34] <coderanger> search for "windows hosts file"
[12:38:27] <jtreglos> windows has a hosts file too ? good... I'll google that up
[12:38:29] <jtreglos> thx again
[12:38:41] <coderanger> its stuck in some weird folder that I never remember
[12:38:53] <coderanger> windows/system/drivers/etc or something
[12:38:57] <wardi> it's a little gem of unix simplicity hidden in a vast windows wasteland
[12:38:58] <jtreglos> %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\
[12:39:09] <jtreglos> that sure is a weird location
[12:39:14] <coderanger> I was close
[12:39:18] <jtreglos> hehe
[12:40:10] <wardi> I'm sure they wanted to put it in the registry
[12:40:28] <coderanger> wardi: There is a way to add resolver stuff in there
[12:40:34] <jtreglos> well the location of this file is in the registry... \HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\DataBasePath
[12:40:35] <coderanger> wardi: But its even more obscure
[12:40:56] <wardi> coderanger: I would expect nothing less
[12:41:26] <coderanger> I think there is a command in netsh to manipulate it though, not that anyone has ever heard of netsh
[12:41:27] <wardi> they could have stuck a couple GUIDs in that path, though
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[12:51:24] <davedave> coderanger: i remember you talking about a bulk re-assign plugin or am I confusing you with someone else?
[12:51:36] <davedave> i dont see anything on trac-hacks
[12:53:14] <coderanger> davedave: Possibly
[12:53:41] <coderanger> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/BatchModifyPlugin
[12:54:25] <davedave> Ahhhh thanks, i was looking for one specifically tied to users
[12:55:29] <davedave> one other question that is related. What happens to "sessions" that already exist if the user tied to that session is deleted? will we have to manually delete the session or should it go away - were using the restrict users in trac.ini
[12:55:54] <coderanger> yes
[12:56:09] <coderanger> removing users isn't handled well (read: at all) currently
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[13:21:05] <ROBOT3000> why is trac not syntaxing highlighting on my install? :/
[13:21:37] <pygi> pygments? :)
[13:23:39] <mitsuhiko> ROBOT3000: because trac does not include a highlighter
[13:23:48] <mitsuhiko> if you are using trac0.11 you can simply install pygments
[13:23:54] <ROBOT3000> when http://code.whytheluckystiff.net/camping/browser/trunk/lib/camping-unabridged.rb what is this magic
[13:23:55] <ROBOT3000> *then
[13:24:15] <mitsuhiko> ROBOT3000: you need ruby code highlighting?
[13:24:47] <ROBOT3000> mitsuhiko: it'd be nice
[13:24:50] <ROBOT3000> i like highlighting
[13:25:02] <ROBOT3000> and that install has it on diffs too, which is awesome, and has to be useful ... somehow
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