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<otaku42> |
moin |
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<Caitriona> |
Anyone made an attempt to port mediawiki's wikitext parser over to trac? |
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<Caitriona> |
I see that it's been discussed back in 2005 (http://lists.edgewall.com/archive/trac/2005-February/001839.html), but don't see that anyone's come close to doing it |
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<marlun> |
I'm sorry my connection seem to have gone down there, did anyone answer my namespace question? I remember I used it in the Trac wiki before, but don't remember how. |
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<allen_ravi> |
hi everybody |
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<alect> |
marlun: "namespace"? intertrac? |
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<allen_ravi> |
i am looking for a open source bug tracking system.. |
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<alect> |
asmodai! |
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<alect> |
allen: you have come to the right place |
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<allen_ravi> |
i found bugzilla & trac.. |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Morning. |
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<allen_ravi> |
both of them seems to be good |
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<asmodai> |
allen_ravi: roundup, mantis |
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<allen_ravi> |
thank u : alect |
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<marlun> |
namespace may not be the right word...I mean like: Guides > ProgrammingGuides, Guides > CookingGuides, .... argh I don't know what it's called. |
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<Caitriona> |
Breadcrumbs. |
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<alect> |
yeah |
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<alect> |
there is a patch on trac-hacks i believe |
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<alect> |
which may or may not be useful |
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<allen_ravi> |
i want u sugguest which one is best issue tracker... |
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<allen_ravi> |
suits be .. me |
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<Caitriona> |
allen_ravi: it really depends on your workflow and other requirements. |
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<allen_ravi> |
i am working software develpomet company .. |
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<asmodai> |
allen_ravi: Personally |
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<asmodai> |
allen_ravi: after having used bugzilla, mantis, rt, and a ton of others |
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<asmodai> |
allen_ravi: I like trac the most |
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<allen_ravi> |
oh.. |
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<asmodai> |
Although it is a love/hate relationship at times ;) |
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<Caitriona> |
trac has a very simple, but very usable one, that integrates very tightly with it's wiki, timeline, and subversion. |
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<asmodai> |
allen_ravi: But I like svn and python a lot |
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<allen_ravi> |
oh.. |
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<asmodai> |
And trac's design is not braindead |
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<Caitriona> |
bugzilla has more workflow features, but it doesn't give you the level of integration that trac does. |
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<allen_ravi> |
hmm |
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<allen_ravi> |
integration in the sence.. |
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<asmodai> |
Bugzilla's dependency features are nice |
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<asmodai> |
But it's UI is overwhelming |
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<Caitriona> |
allen_ravi: trac ties a wiki, ticketing, repository browser, timeline, and a lot of project management tools tightly together. |
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<allen_ravi> |
thats great.. caitriona, |
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<allen_ravi> |
we already implement SVN in my work place.. |
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<Caitriona> |
all wrapped around subversion, or another repository that trac has a plogin for. |
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<asmodai> |
alect: I still am in dubio about the whole plugin and base trac. At one point I like it, and at the other side I hate it. ;) |
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<marlun> |
"namespace" functionality seems to be done with "/" but I'm not sure how you use it.. |
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<allen_ravi> |
i wanna convince my boss, by explaining pros & cons of bugzilla & trac.. , should choose the wise one. probably trac.. |
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<Caitriona> |
I'm a new trac user myself, but I like what I see so far enough that I've committed to using it on a project. |
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<allen_ravi> |
hmm.. |
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<Caitriona> |
allen_ravi: trac would probably be better if you don't already have project management tools. |
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<Caitriona> |
I wouldn't use trac just for the ticketing though |
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<allen_ravi> |
ok.. |
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<Caitriona> |
and it's possible to use external ticketing alongside trac if you wanted both bugzilla and trac to work together. |
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<allen_ravi> |
where could i paste my bin |
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<allen_ravi> |
sicne i wanna share my study on buzilla with u . |
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<allen_ravi> |
all & i need ur feedback.. |
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<Caitriona> |
there are certianly situations where it's a better bug tracker. |
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<Caitriona> |
You really have to look at what fits your workflow though. |
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<allen_ravi> |
oh.. |
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<Caitriona> |
trac's is very good, but I don't think it's a standout without the other tools (wiki, timeline, roadmap, browser, etc) |
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<allen_ravi> |
these are bugillza's features Generic Reporting , Request System, Enterprise Group Support |
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<allen_ravi> |
User Wildcard Matching,Insiders, Time Tracking, |
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<allen_ravi> |
Multiple Authentication Methods |
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<allen_ravi> |
Localisation, Patch Viewer, Comment Reply Links |
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<allen_ravi> |
Full-text Search, Email Address Munging, |
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<allen_ravi> |
Generic Charting, Sanity Check |
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<allen_ravi> |
when .. i compare this with trac.. as u said trac, as wiki , subversion support , many more./. |
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<Getty> |
why someone compare apples with bananas? |
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<asmodai> |
Caitriona: speaking of which, I need to check the bugzilla2trac script again with some newer schemas |
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<Getty> |
Trac is a Project Management, Bugzilla is "just" a Ticket System / Bug Tracker |
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<Caitriona> |
best bet, sit down on a test system and set up a few of the more promising systems to play with. |
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<asmodai> |
Features? Hah |
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<asmodai> |
email address munging a feature |
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<asmodai> |
How to artificially inflate your featureset |
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<Caitriona> |
sanity check isn't a feature |
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<Caitriona> |
it's a dealing with brokenness :P |
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<Getty> |
childs..... |
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<asmodai> |
I mean 'insiders' |
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<asmodai> |
say what? |
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<Caitriona> |
bugzilla has a unique way of doing private bugs and private comments. |
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<asmodai> |
I know. |
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<asmodai> |
I used to hack bugzilla :P |
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<asmodai> |
I just meant that 'insiders' means nothing to people not familiar with it. |
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<Caitriona> |
ahh. |
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<Caitriona> |
I like the fact that cc overrides ticket privacy settings. |
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<asmodai> |
The systems can learn from each other |
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<Caitriona> |
definantely. |
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<Caitriona> |
there's a few bugzilla features that would be good in trac - bugzilla's requestable flags is pretty unique AFAIK |
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<Getty> |
that was the only useful sentence till i joined the talk |
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<marlun> |
Anyone knows if the pygments coloring of bash actually do anything? =) I've just tested simple bash strings but nothing is colored. |
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<asmodai> |
Getty: That could be interpreted as arrogant :P |
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<asmodai> |
marlun: Try the pygments site with a bash script? |
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<marlun> |
I did :) all black |
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<Getty> |
asmodai: could be, or just realistic. Trac has a much bigger target then Bugzilla, comparing it to "this" is not nice. |
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<asmodai> |
marlun: mmm, guess it doesn't then. |
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<marlun> |
well it was only a simple bash string, I don't have any big scripts. |
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<marlun> |
:) |
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<asmodai> |
Getty: *shrug* People will compare it irregardless of what you think is nice or not. So better be pretty objective about it and discuss it. |
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<Caitriona> |
As an all-in-one solution to project management, I haven't seen anything else like it. |
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<Caitriona> |
That alone makes it best in class for managing development projects as far as I'm concerned. |
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<Caitriona> |
It could be best-in-class at all the individual things it does though. |
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<asmodai> |
It's definitely one of a kind thus far. |
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<Caitriona> |
It should strive to be as good as any standalone implementatation of one of it's components though. |
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<Caitriona> |
That would move it from great to killer. |
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<Getty> |
asmodai: that is objective, both programs has totally different targets. what bugzilla wanna reach is just one feature in trac. |
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<asmodai> |
Getty: *grin* |
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<Getty> |
asmodai: there is no need to compare, the people must decide what they need. if you REALLY need _JUST_ a ticket system for something, bugzilla is much more useful probably then a trac where you disable first 10 features (like the SVN stuff, does trac install without SVN anyway?) |
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<asmodai> |
Getty: Yes. |
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<asmodai> |
Getty: It does. |
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<Getty> |
ah ok, but you know what i mean |
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<asmodai> |
*grin* I do. |
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<Getty> |
if you manage a project, you take trac |
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<Getty> |
if you do..... worthless ticket counting... take your shitty bugzilla |
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<Getty> |
y;) |
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<asmodai> |
Now *you* are being subjective :P |
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<Caitriona> |
Right now, I probably couldn't replace a heavily used bugzilla with trac's ticketing because of the loss of functionality. |
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<asmodai> |
Caitriona: *nod* |
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<Getty> |
asmodai: just a bit |
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<asmodai> |
Caitriona: Sometimes the leanness/simplicity of trac makes me gnash my teeth |
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<Caitriona> |
or any other top-notch ticketing system for that matter. |
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<Getty> |
Caitriona: if you are happy with the bugzilla, why replace? |
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<Getty> |
<sing>if you're happy and you know, clap your hands....</sing> |
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<Caitriona> |
Getty: I can't get the level of integration between project management tools with bugzilla, at least not without a lot of glue. |
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<Getty> |
yeah, so you are not happy, i see |
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<Caitriona> |
I shouldn't have to make that tradeoff. |
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<Getty> |
yeah, thats why bugzilla is called ticket system ;) cause it has nothing todo with projects hrhr :) |
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<asmodai> |
Obviously so. |
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<asmodai> |
Discussing semantics leads nowhere. :P |
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<Caitriona> |
yes, but my point is that the choice is either a weaker bug tracker with tight project management integration, or a stronger one that I'm going to have to work into project management tools. |
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<asmodai> |
Caitriona: Neither option makes you happy. :) |
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<Getty> |
trac makes always happy |
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<Getty> |
<runningtvspot> ;) |
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<asmodai> |
Getty: Mmm, given the amount of plugins some people need it doesn't make me happy. |
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<Getty> |
and if you take 2 tracs today, we give you one trac for free!!!! |
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<asmodai> |
I thoroughly dislike plugin hell. |
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<Caitriona> |
I shouldn't have to make that choice, trac's ticketing should aim to blow other ticketing systems out of the water, or at least match them in functionality. |
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<Getty> |
i just installed graphviz plugin so far |
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<Getty> |
Caitriona: true |
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<Getty> |
but it doesnt |
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<Caitriona> |
apart from the repository browser and timeline, I don't see that any of the individual components are even standouts among their fields. |
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<Caitriona> |
right now it's the combination and tight integration of tools that makes trac standout. |
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<Caitriona> |
that way not continue to be enough. |
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<Caitriona> |
may not. |
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<asmodai> |
Caitriona: *nod* |
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<Caitriona> |
Then again, I've never been a fan of a one horse race. |
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<Caitriona> |
although, a 5000 horse race wouldn't be fun to watch either. |
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<asmodai> |
Talk about a hard to satisfy woman. ;) |
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<Caitriona> |
hahaha |
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<asmodai> |
Caitriona: that's my issue with the plugins |
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<asmodai> |
Caitriona: At one point it allows a flexibility that's just amazing |
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<asmodai> |
Caitriona: OTOH does it also mean that the base is just not usable? |
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<Caitriona> |
true. |
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<asmodai> |
The amount of times I see peope ask about a feature and the response is: use this plugin... |
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<asmodai> |
s/peope/people |
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<Caitriona> |
it also means that you have external functionality that user's are depending on, that's dependant on a third party. |
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<Caitriona> |
so, it may not work after a new trac release. |
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<asmodai> |
*nod* |
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<Caitriona> |
and if the third party isn't nice enough to keep up development... you are up the creek without a paddle. |
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<asmodai> |
Just look at firefox and its addons |
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<asmodai> |
And that has a larger user and developer base |
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<Caitriona> |
99% of which I can't use for more than a day because I run nightly builds. |
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<Caitriona> |
</rant> |
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<asmodai> |
Mmm |
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<asmodai> |
*nod* |
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<Caitriona> |
which btw, trac looks like it will work quite nicely in firefox 3 when it comes out. |
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<asmodai> |
Always nice to know ;) |
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<alect> |
evening all |
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<alect> |
coderanger: django is using simpletickets :) |
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<asmodai> |
alect: eh? |
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<asmodai> |
alect: plugin or so? |
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<alect> |
yeah |
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<Federico2> |
meow |
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<asmodai> |
alect: they also have added triage information it seems |
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<alect> |
yeah |
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<asmodai> |
Is that a plugin as well? |
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<alect> |
i don't think so |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Looks interesting as a feature |
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<allen_ravi> |
evening all |
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<allen_ravi> |
i am planning to use trac.. |
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<allen_ravi> |
could any tell me its features.. |
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<asmodai> |
Again? |
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<alect> |
heh |
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<benny> |
Hi anyone that has runned tracd as an service on Windows server 2003? |
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<Alex_> |
hi .. can anyone help me! I would like to know if its possible to use a automatic version tag? |
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<benny> |
Alex_: If you useing *nix I had tried to use a cron to do it check out http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Crontab and read the svn manuale ;-) |
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<Alex_> |
yes i do .. kk thc |
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<Alex_> |
thx |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Which of you guys is more the database schema freak here? ;) |
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<alect> |
what's up? |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Need to bounce some database design ideas back and forth with someone per email :) |
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<asmodai> |
alect: You seemed like a nice candidate ^^ |
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<alect> |
sure, why not :) |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Cool. Will pester you with some emails ;) |
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<alect> |
just remember it's almost bed time, so the response might be somewhat delayed |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Not important. :) |
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<asmodai> |
alect: it's still all in development anyway |
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<alect> |
sounds good |
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<asmodai> |
I hope so ^^ |
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<asmodai> |
alect: oh |
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<asmodai> |
alect: btw |
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<asmodai> |
alect: which email address should I use |
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<asmodai> |
alect: The one for the trac list is of course a filtering for trac |
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<alect> |
http://www.nedbatchelder.com/text/stopbots.html |
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<alect> |
interesting |
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<benny> |
Is it possible to set up a webdav (svn) with tracd ? |
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<tpollari> |
alect: interesting link indeed -- thanks |
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<benny> |
Anyone configured authentication useing tracd on "Wintendos"? |
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<coderanger> |
benny: What is that? |
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<benny> |
wintendos == Windows 2003 server (not *nix) :-( |
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<coderanger> |
benny: In the contrib/ fodler there should be a script for making htdigest files |
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<benny> |
wintendos, Nintendos same same .... |
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<coderanger> |
benny: No, setting up Trac on a Nintendo console is significantly harder ... |
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<benny> |
coderanger: I know, I have puted up 5 trac-systems on *unix without any bigger problem but due to ploicy I have to use wintendos now :-( |
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<Federico2> |
stupid policy |
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<coderanger> |
It is probably easier to use lighty or apache on Windows than to use tracd |
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<Federico2> |
coderanger, but Nintendo consoles do crash less |
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<The_Tick> |
Federico2: misconception |
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<The_Tick> |
poorly setup windows servers crash more ;) |
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<coderanger> |
Federico2: MS doesn't have draconian software certification and licensing |
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<The_Tick> |
by people who consider expensive machines to be comparable to gaming concsoles ;) |
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<The_Tick> |
ok, that's it |
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<The_Tick> |
wtf does draconian mean? |
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<coderanger> |
The_Tick: evil, difficult to work with |
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<The_Tick> |
well that's trac |
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<The_Tick> |
or anything |
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<coderanger> |
You can't even compile code for a nintendo console without a $700 dev kit, and thats on the low end for most consoles |
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<The_Tick> |
draconian could be applied to any amount of things |
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<The_Tick> |
ooh, it's only 700> |
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<The_Tick> |
? |
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<The_Tick> |
hrmm |
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<The_Tick> |
I wonder if that gets you virtual console dev stuff |
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<coderanger> |
The_Tick: PS2/3 kits are several thousand |
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<misc> |
coderanger: and you cannot produce your cartridge |
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<asmodai> |
alect: Interesting article ye |
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<coderanger> |
No, but you do get a dev unit with a debugger generally |
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<The_Tick> |
coderanger: if you plan to make money |
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<The_Tick> |
you should plan to spend money |
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<The_Tick> |
if your only complaint is that it costs money to get some kind of barrier on there |
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<The_Tick> |
well sure, it's draconian next to open source |
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<misc> |
even compared to windows developpement |
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<coderanger> |
The_Tick: Thats fine, just pointing out that part of the reason you see consoles crash less often than PCs is that the manufacturer is more meticulous about they allow to run on their system, and so can apply their own QA policies to all software |
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<The_Tick> |
how much is visual studio (not express) |
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<The_Tick> |
coderanger: ya :) |
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<coderanger> |
Both business models clearly work |
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<misc> |
coderanger: and the fact that you have only one thing to test, the game, and one version of the console |
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<coderanger> |
misc: Most consoles have a number of firmware and OS revisions over their lifetime |
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<misc> |
coderanger: well, is the complexity comparable to the one on pc ? |
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<coderanger> |
Heck, they are changing the number of cores in the PS3 "later" |
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<coderanger> |
misc: Complexity yes, permutations no |
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<The_Tick> |
if you dev for the wii |
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<The_Tick> |
you can make it work on the gamecube too |
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<Federico2> |
draconian does't means simply "complex", it also implies ankwardness |
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<The_Tick> |
Federico2: I just see it thrown about willy nilly all the time |
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<Federico2> |
willy nilly?? |
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<The_Tick> |
not in this case with coderanger, but some people seem to think that applying for a job is draconian |
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<coderanger> |
The_Tick: Not easily, as it doesn't have the same debugger. Not to mention that you still need to GC dev kit license to make GC games anyway |
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<The_Tick> |
or even, applying peanut butter to bread is |
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<coderanger> |
yuck, peanut butter is draconian!! |
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<The_Tick> |
see, heh |
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<coderanger> |
In any event, if you want to see your Windows server crash as often as your console, just run one piece of MS approved software at a time on it and you should be fine :) |
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<Federico2> |
the "should" should scare me |
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<sineer> |
hi |
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<sineer> |
anyone here uses the AccountManager plugin with multiple TRAC sites? |
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<sineer> |
I need to replace dbauth trac plugin (because it doesn't support http://login:pw@url password that would enable RSS client to login properly) but I have many trac sites on many servers... I'd like to know how well AccountManager behave with many trac sites |
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<sineer> |
and more importantly, will http://login:passwd@url login URLs work (for RSS clients) ? |
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<The_Tick> |
what do you mean, "how well behaves with many trac sites" |
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<sineer> |
is it a single txt file (the .htaccess file) that will be shared among mult. trac sites? |
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<sineer> |
because I have many trac sites I would like to share the SAME auth db... |
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<sineer> |
and most likely accross several server too so I might need to use NFS sync... |
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<The_Tick> |
so |
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<The_Tick> |
if you read the account manager documentation |
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<The_Tick> |
it should tell you how to point at a htpasswd file |
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<The_Tick> |
so just point them all at the same file.. |
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<sineer> |
yeah.. that's what I plan todo but I'm concerned that there might be issues perhaps synchro issue with a newly added user from a certain trac site that would fsck up login on the others.. that's why I wanted to know if anyone did it :) |
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<The_Tick> |
only one way to find out |
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<sineer> |
also, I'm wondering if http://login:password@url will work (RSS client access required) |
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<The_Tick> |
probably not |
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<sineer> |
hrmm. |
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<The_Tick> |
you're welcome to create a user on trac.growl.info and try |
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<sineer> |
yeah I will thanks |
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<The_Tick> |
if you get it working |
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<The_Tick> |
tell me how |
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<The_Tick> |
:) |
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<The_Tick> |
but I had brent simmons look into it |
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<The_Tick> |
he said something was wrong |
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<sineer> |
yeah it doesn't work :( |
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<sineer> |
crap.. I might as well try to fix the dbauth plugin then |
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<sineer> |
thanks Tick, btw, what is growl ? |
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<The_Tick> |
http://growl.info |
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<The_Tick> |
it's a notification system for os x |
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<The_Tick> |
allows multiple applications to notify you of events happening with them |
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<The_Tick> |
gives the user control over what's being notified so they don't have too much on screen at once |
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<The_Tick> |
etc, etc |
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<sineer> |
cool :) |
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<coderanger> |
sineer: You will need the HttpAuth plugin to do http://user:pw@ |
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<sineer> |
coderanger, hi! ok, I'll go check the desc. |
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<sineer> |
coderanger, this plugin is complementary to dbauth plugin or incompatible with? |
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<coderanger> |
incompatible with dbauth, requires accountmanager |
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<coderanger> |
You could probably change it pretty easily work with dbauth if you needed |
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<sineer> |
coderanger, I might.. unless it is safe to use Accountmanager for many trac sites and share the htaccess passwd file accross NFS (v4 sync) for many servers... |
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<coderanger> |
of course |
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<coderanger> |
are you using lockd? |
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<sineer> |
no |
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<sineer> |
well its not setup |
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<coderanger> |
heh, well 1) accountmanager does everything atomically so it should be safe anyway |
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<coderanger> |
but 2) Use lockd to be sure about it ;-) |
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<sineer> |
excellent! Thanks again coderanger !! |
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