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January 25, 2007

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[00:53:53] <coderanger> http://www.docuverse.com/blog/donpark/2007/01/19/identicon-updated-and-source-released
[00:54:03] <coderanger> Nifty idea, someone should make a plugin for it :)
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[01:22:15] <asmodai> coderanger: wow
[01:22:20] <asmodai> coderanger: that's interesting in a sense.
[01:22:50] <coderanger> might be nifty on the timeline to show who is editing
[01:23:13] <coderanger> it could be based off the form token string, since thats already unique hex data
[01:23:18] <asmodai> coderanger: *nod*
[01:23:32] <asmodai> the visual cue helps often, I find out
[01:23:43] <coderanger> yeah
[01:24:22] <coderanger> doooo it ;-)
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[01:26:55] <asmodai> coderanger: of course ,my trac internals knowledge still sucks
[01:27:11] <asmodai> thankfully I am dropping one big time wasting project out of my space
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[01:29:14] <coderanger> asmodai: Your job? ;-)
[01:29:37] <cboos> hello
[01:29:43] <coderanger> cboos: G'morning
[01:29:54] <asmodai> coderanger: hahahah
[01:29:58] <asmodai> coderanger: Nice one. ;)
[01:30:04] <asmodai> But no, the tendra.org stuff
[01:30:10] <asmodai> someone else will take over
[01:34:52] <asmodai> So I've been coding Python ever since ^^
[01:43:07] <coderanger> :)
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[03:13:12] <cboos> coderanger: are you still familiar with the tocmacro?
[03:13:36] <cboos> as there are a couple of things I'm not sure about...
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[04:15:33] <cboos> howdy cmlenz
[04:15:43] <cmlenz> hey
[04:15:55] <cboos> I'm still waiting on your feedback for the security branch....
[04:16:32] <cmlenz> yeah
[04:16:38] <cmlenz> I'm working on it
[04:16:45] <stepz> cmlenz: I don't want to be pushy, but what's the status with http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4245
[04:17:25] <cmlenz> ah
[04:17:37] <cmlenz> sorry, should've commented...
[04:17:53] <cmlenz> the problem I had with the patch is that it conflicts with the IUserDirectory plans
[04:18:05] <cboos> stepz: right, I think that there's also something regarding this area of the code in wkornewald's patch
[04:18:05] <cmlenz> i.e. it hardcodes the session table as the source of user info
[04:18:10] <cboos> @ticket 2456
[04:18:10] <evil_twin> cboos: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2456
[04:19:44] <cmlenz> not really
[04:19:49] <cmlenz> (AFAICT)
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[04:21:13] <stepz> so there is a need for a get_users_with_permissions() function, but the current implementation doesn't abstract the user directory away, did I get that correctly?
[04:21:54] <cmlenz> yeah
[04:22:09] <cmlenz> the patch would need to use env.get_known_users() to retrieve the users list
[04:22:26] <cmlenz> if it does that, I'll apply it immediately ;-)
[04:23:57] <cboos> cmlenz: also, about what we discussed yesterday, the "correct" solution for the format_datetime replacement
[04:24:19] <cboos> do you already have something or do you plan to start it soon, otherwise I could have a try
[04:25:08] <stepz> how do user groups work with env.get_known_users() ?
[04:25:52] <cmlenz> stepz: it just returns all users and has nothing to do with groups
[04:26:31] <stepz> how do I get groups then?
[04:26:54] <stepz> because group permissions are transitive
[04:27:17] <stepz> ah ok
[04:27:25] <stepz> its in the permission table
[04:27:30] <cmlenz> right
[04:27:42] <stepz> many moons have passed and my memory has faded
[04:29:00] <cmlenz> cboos: feel free to give it a try, I'll try to focus on getting my feedback about (wiki)context in
[04:29:15] <cboos> ok fine
[04:29:45] <cboos> should that still go in the IRequestFilter interface?
[04:29:52] <cboos> or a new one?
[04:29:53] <stepz> so env.get_known_users() is equivalent to SELECT sid FROM session WHERE authenticated = 1; ?
[04:30:18] <cboos> like ITemplateRendererManipulator or similar fancy name?
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[04:30:45] <cmlenz> a new interface, yes
[04:30:54] <cmlenz> stepz: yeah
[04:31:10] <cboos> ... what do we do with post_process_request then?
[04:31:34] <stepz> ok I'll have a new version of the patch in a jiffie
[04:31:43] <stepz> against trunk?
[04:32:06] <cmlenz> always :-)
[04:33:10] <cmlenz> cboos: hm?
[04:33:48] <cboos> currently, we have a post_process_request method in IRequestFilter, it's not called anymore in 0.11
[04:34:01] <cboos> it's purpose was:
[04:34:08] <cboos> """Do any post-processing the request might need; typically adding
[04:34:10] <cboos> values to req.hdf, or changing template or mime type.
[04:34:31] <cboos> so that's pretty much what a template renderer manipulator interface would do, now ...
[04:34:52] <cboos> (s/it's/its/ in the above, sorry)
[04:36:15] <cmlenz> okay
[04:36:40] <cmlenz> that would need to be changed to take the data dict as an argument, and return it as part of the tuple
[04:37:38] <cmlenz> in a backwards-compatible way, probably by checking the arity
[04:38:39] <cboos> ok, so that one would be used for modifying the data dict, but not for the template filtering, right?
[04:38:51] <cmlenz> right, that would need something else
[04:39:05] <cboos> I only need the former anyway, so I'll focus on that and leave you the filtering part ;)
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[04:42:13] <cboos> cmlenz: just out of curiosity, what are your main concerns with the Context stuff? Is it only the stuff in the security branch, or already what's in trunk?
[04:43:43] <cmlenz> both
[04:43:45] <cmlenz> hold on
[04:44:13] <cmlenz> I'll send out a mail in a couple of minutes
[04:45:39] <cboos> can't wait ;)
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[05:02:46] <stepz> cmlenz: http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/4245/trac.get_users_with_permission.v2.patch
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[05:07:09] <cmlenz> stepz: cool, I'll try that
[05:07:48] <stepz> it's not tested actually, as I don't have a trunk installation of trac nearby
[05:08:09] <stepz> but a quick look over revision history didn't reveal anything that might have broken it in the last 2 months
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[05:11:00] <matus> hallo
[05:12:17] <matus> is it possible to extend table in reports by 1 collumn without modifying sources?
[05:14:28] <matus> i think this should be done when creating database with trac-admin initenv
[05:14:46] <asmodai> coderanger: http://www.splitbrain.org/blog/2007-01/20_monsterid_as_gravatar_fallback
[05:14:49] <asmodai> coderanger: rofl
[05:35:39] <matus> none knows
[05:38:18] <asmodai> Why would you want to extend the table?
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[05:53:35] <matus> asmodai: because we use generated usernames in our network environment
[05:54:10] <matus> asmodai: and i would like to map those generated (nonfriendly) usernames to real names
[05:54:22] <stepz> I have a similar need, need to show due date
[05:54:50] <matus> stepz: yes, another example
[05:55:14] <cmlenz> you talking about reports or custom queries?
[05:55:36] <cmlenz> for reports you can simply edit the SQL
[05:57:41] <matus> cmlenz: I thought so. si it is enough to generate a table with extended row usinf trac-admin initenv?
[05:58:13] <matus> cmlenz: modified trac-admin I suppose
[05:58:38] <cmlenz> what table?
[05:58:45] <matus> sql
[06:01:17] <cmlenz> you'll really need to better explain what you want to do
[06:01:33] <cmlenz> there's more than one database table that trac uses
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[06:10:19] <matus> cmlenz: usecase is to extent existing html table in http://localhost:8000/test1/report/1 (this is a ticket table) by 1 collumn. now there are folllowing collumns: Ticket Summary Component Version Milestone Type Owner Created
[06:11:03] <matus> cmlenz: I need it to be: Ticket Summary Component Version Milestone Type Owner Name Created
[06:14:55] <matus> cmlenz: I just take a look on the db/trac.db but this database does not contain any table showing those collumns
[06:15:41] <cmlenz> well, it's not a table, it's a query
[06:17:16] <matus> cmlenz: I thought, that any query takes data from table
[06:20:36] <cmlenz> sure, look at the SQL of the report
[06:20:41] <cmlenz> (edit report button)
[06:21:58] <matus> no such button here
[06:22:16] <matus> maybe I have to login before?
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[06:33:49] <matus> cmlenz: did you mean the querry in def execute_report(self, req, db, id, sql, args) ?
[06:34:23] <cmlenz> no
[06:34:29] <cmlenz> you need REPORT_ADMIN permissions
[06:34:36] <cmlenz> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions
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[06:48:51] <asmodai> oh my god
[06:48:52] <asmodai> http://ondras.praha12.net/sql/demo/
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[06:58:25] <matus> cmlenz: I had to setup authentication
[06:58:35] <matus> cmlenz: now I have the query
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[07:30:43] <cboos> coderanger: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AddCommentMacro has been vandalized
[07:30:54] <cboos> can you delete the last version please?
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[07:31:48] <cboos> and add 91.124.187.183 in the list of BadIp ;
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[08:15:19] <matus> stepz: any luck with the column?
[08:15:29] <stepz> no not yet
[08:15:49] <stepz> but that's to be expected, because I haven't done anything :)
[08:16:28] <matus> stepz: I've created new thread at trac-dev@googlegroups.com regarding this
[08:16:50] <matus> if you follow, you may get an answer :)
[08:17:16] <pacopablo> matus: do you mean selecting the column as a given name?
[08:17:47] <pacopablo> you want "Owner Name" instead of Owner?
[08:17:57] <pacopablo> or do you want to add another column?
[08:18:18] <pacopablo> basically, you should be able to edit the SQL for the report and simply add the column in the select clause
[08:18:20] <matus> pacopablo: add new one
[08:18:48] <pacopablo> just put it as another field that is selected in the SQL
[08:20:10] <matus> pacopablo: in execute_report(self, req, db, id, sql, args) ?
[08:20:20] <pacopablo> @wiki TracReports
[08:20:21] <evil_twin> pacopablo: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracReports
[08:20:56] <pacopablo> matus: if you have the proper permissions, you can modify the SQL used to generate the report from the web interface
[08:21:08] <stepz> what about custom query?
[08:21:08] <pacopablo> just change the SQL there
[08:21:25] <pacopablo> custom query is different, and I don't know about that
[08:21:41] <matus> pacopablo: REPORT_ADMIN is ok?
[08:21:44] <pacopablo> @wiki TracQuery
[08:21:44] <evil_twin> pacopablo: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracQuery
[08:21:44] <stepz> I'd say trac needs typed ticket field or a plugin interface for the fields
[08:21:50] <pacopablo> matus: should be
[08:22:02] <pacopablo> matus: you should see an "Edit Report" link
[08:22:17] <matus> pacopablo: yes I do
[08:22:37] <matus> pacopablo: there is 8 line sql query
[08:22:42] <matus> :)
[08:22:48] <pacopablo> right, modify that
[08:22:55] <pacopablo> add whatever field you need
[08:24:16] <matus> pacopablo: thx
[08:24:39] <matus> pacopablo: now i got to get sql in nutshell :)
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[08:39:25] <Hellaenergy> How does your wiki page have to be formatted to work with the TOC plugin?
[08:39:57] <pacopablo> needs to use headings
[08:40:16] <pacopablo> so things like: = Foo = and == Bar ==
[08:40:18] <pacopablo> etc
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[08:41:27] <pygi> s0undt3ch, ping
[08:46:14] <stepz> is there a plugin to render wiki formatted documentation from svn?
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[09:00:32] <mitsuhiko> yay
[09:00:40] <mitsuhiko> pocoo trac running on 0.11 now: http://trac.pocoo.org/
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[09:05:18] <mitsuhiko> hmm. or not
[09:05:45] <mitsuhiko> something is broken
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[09:12:22] <cmlenz> mitsuhiko: what's wrong?
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[09:13:14] <mitsuhiko> cmlenz: no idea
[09:13:17] <mitsuhiko> load at 30
[09:13:29] <cmlenz> whoa
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[09:13:43] <mitsuhiko> darn. ssh locked up
[09:13:46] <mitsuhiko> cannot stop that darn server
[09:15:18] <mitsuhiko> cmlenz: any ideas?
[09:15:33] <cmlenz> no
[09:15:34] <mitsuhiko> 17:11:46 up 4 days, 3:39, 1 user, load average: 51.59, 40.66, 22.49
[09:15:45] <cmlenz> that looks pretty bad
[09:16:26] <mitsuhiko> the bigger problem is that the xen instance on that server tends to panic with out of memory after some time
[09:23:16] <mitsuhiko> cmlenz: load back down
[09:23:22] <mitsuhiko> no idea what is/was wrong
[09:23:49] <mitsuhiko> hmm
[09:24:01] <mitsuhiko> cmlenz: it's reproduceable
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[09:24:49] <mitsuhiko> if i save a config quite often
[09:24:51] <mitsuhiko> the laod increases
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[09:26:38] <mitsuhiko> *load
[09:27:35] <cmlenz> save a config?
[09:27:42] <mitsuhiko> cmlenz: conf/trac.ini
[09:27:55] <cmlenz> weird
[09:27:55] <mitsuhiko> if i hit :w 20 times the load is high again
[09:28:09] <cmlenz> and that's what you were doing before??
[09:28:13] <pacopablo> disk access issues?
[09:28:21] <pacopablo> running with write barriers?
[09:28:28] <cmlenz> what kind of traffic are you getting there?
[09:29:02] <mitsuhiko> cmlenz: yeah. i had to remove some plugins (because not compatible with trac0.11) and safed the config quite often
[09:29:02] <pacopablo> or is it causing trac to continuously reparse the ini file?
[09:29:19] <cmlenz> possibly
[09:29:27] <mitsuhiko> pacopablo: no idea. i thought config changes are just reloaded if i restart the server
[09:29:28] <cmlenz> clock-sync issues?
[09:29:44] <pacopablo> mitsuhiko: nah, it's reloaded if the time/size changes
[09:29:55] <cmlenz> no, they're reloaded if the file timestamp has changed since the last parse, and the check is done once per request
[09:29:57] <pacopablo> but it should only reload if a request is bing issued
[09:30:09] <mitsuhiko> very strange
[09:30:20] <mitsuhiko> i don't think someone pressed f5 the whole time
[09:30:28] <pacopablo> yeah
[09:30:32] <mitsuhiko> especially because trac just threw 500 internal server errors at that time
[09:30:32] * cmlenz ducks ;-)
[09:30:43] <cmlenz> (j/k)
[09:31:05] <mitsuhiko> i have two plugins enabled: my irclogs plugin and the trac spam filter
[09:31:07] <mitsuhiko> that's it
[09:31:12] <mitsuhiko> so i don't think those are causing problems
[09:31:35] <pacopablo> running via mod_python or fastcgi?
[09:32:07] <mitsuhiko> pacopablo: fastcgi over flup
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[09:35:19] <cmlenz> and if you leave the config alone load is okay?
[09:35:52] <mitsuhiko> cmlenz: yes
[09:36:12] <cmlenz> weird
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[09:42:54] <pacopablo> mitsuhiko: what process is using all the cpu (or entering a D state?)
[09:44:03] <mitsuhiko> pacopablo: trac.fcgi
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[10:11:48] <WhiteHat_OR> does anyone know much about the LdapPlugin?
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[10:20:33] <Hellaenergy> How does php integrate with Trac?
[10:20:44] <Hellaenergy> Can I use php in the wiki?
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[10:45:03] <mitsuhiko> Hellaenergy: php syntax highlighting?
[10:45:07] <mitsuhiko> or do you want to execute php code?
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[10:49:11] <maxcase> hi.
[10:49:11] <maxcase> I have a little problem, hoping someone can give me a pointer to track it down. We are running trac at work. Using the intructions on the wiki, set up a landing page at foo.com/projects/ and everything has been going fine. However, recently, when I make a new project, and then hit foo.com/projects I am getting this weird error, just on the new project i created:
[10:49:11] <maxcase> (zipimport: can not open file /usr/trac/test/plugins/TracWebAdmin-0.1.2dev_r4240-py2.3.egg)
[10:49:12] <maxcase> Whats confusing me is I deleted the test project a while ago tha was at usr/trac/test, and I use TracWebAdmin installed in the global plugin directory. All my other projects are working fine still. Just new ones displaying this problem. I am wonderig if someone can point me inthe right direction to solve this - I can't make any sense of it. Does trac keep a catalogue of all it's projects? if so, where?
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[10:50:37] <Hellaenergy> mitsuhiko, execute php code. either or.
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[10:53:26] <cmlenz> maxcase: have you restarted the web-server?
[10:53:40] <maxcase> not recently.
[10:53:48] <maxcase> dong so now
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[10:54:25] <maxcase> sigh... thaks cmlenz
[10:54:29] * maxcase slaps forehead
[10:54:38] <cmlenz> heh
[10:54:53] <cmlenz> I wonder whether that's actually written down somewhere in the docs :-P
[10:55:04] <maxcase> i will go look at wiki now and put a note abot that
[10:55:12] <maxcase> least i ca :D
[10:55:49] <maxcase> n do *
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[11:17:20] <Hellaenergy> Does anyone here know how the wanted pages plugin works?
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