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<asmodai> |
Good morning programs. |
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<cboos> |
hello |
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<cboos> |
howdy chris |
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<cboos> |
just noticed a funny thing, look at http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4596 (the description content) |
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<cboos> |
the description source I mean, do you notice something strange there? |
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<cboos> |
(big) hint: in the System Information section |
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<cmlenz> |
hmm |
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<cmlenz> |
cboos: tbh, I can't see what you mean |
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<cboos> |
don't you see a blank line between each row? |
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<cmlenz> |
not in safari, at least |
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<cmlenz> |
not in firefox either |
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<cboos> |
ah ... tricky |
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<cmlenz> |
neither on osx nor on linux |
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<cboos> |
I see something like: |
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<cmlenz> |
where are you seeing it? |
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<cboos> |
|| '''Trac''' || `0.11dev` || |
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<cboos> |
|| '''Python''' || `2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)]` || |
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<cboos> |
... |
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<cboos> |
in the description textarea |
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<cmlenz> |
oh |
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<cmlenz> |
in the source, I missed that |
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<cmlenz> |
yes, indeed |
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<cboos> |
and the funny thing is that this will happen because of the CRLF in the template source ... |
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<cboos> |
so I wonder whether we shouldn't set the svn:eol-style to "lf" at least for templates/error.html |
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<cmlenz> |
I think it'd be nicer to put together the content in the code instead of in the template |
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<cboos> |
well, that's an alternative, yes |
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<cboos> |
nicer I don't know ;) |
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<cmlenz> |
are you *sure* it's the CRLF? |
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<cboos> |
well, 95% sure, as I can trigger the creation of similar tickets |
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<cboos> |
wait ... I'll do a CRLF -> LF conversion... |
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<cmlenz> |
I think it's simply that the py:for is on separate lines |
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<cboos> |
doh, you're right |
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<cboos> |
2 LF for each iteration, of course |
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<cboos> |
fixing that |
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<cmlenz> |
simply pulling the closing </py:for> up seems to fix it |
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<cboos> |
"pre-filled" is it valid english? |
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<cboos> |
or "pre-filed" ? |
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<cboos> |
As in "Please edit the pre-filled information as you see fit" |
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<cmlenz> |
pre-filled is okay, but I'm not sure about "pre-filled information"... the form is pre-filled |
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<cmlenz> |
what's wrong with the current text? |
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<cboos> |
nothing, just want to prepend the above line |
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<cboos> |
(as a way to encourage people to add more text) |
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<cmlenz> |
hmm |
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<cboos> |
speaking about <textarea> in the new report_edit.html template, |
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<cboos> |
I saw that you indented the textarea content... should better start at the beginning of line |
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<cmlenz> |
oh, that was an oversight |
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<cmlenz> |
I'll fix it |
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<cboos> |
ok |
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<cmlenz> |
maybe move the default "how to reproduce" text to the front, and add a "(please provide details)" placeholder text inside the section |
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<cmlenz> |
so that it's clear that the default content is *not* sufficient as "how to reproduce" instructions |
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<cboos> |
ok |
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<cboos> |
that was the other option I considered ;) |
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<Blackhex> |
hello |
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<Blackhex> |
cboos: are you here? |
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<cboos> |
yes |
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<Blackhex> |
please, I have a question about IPermissionPolicy: When is check_permission called? |
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<cboos> |
in the latest revs of the security branch, I think it's only once per (authname, permid) |
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<cboos> |
in a given req |
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<cboos> |
(in the lifetime of a given req, that is) |
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<cboos> |
permid is an unique identifier for the resource being checked |
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<Blackhex> |
and permid is registered how? |
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<Blackhex> |
I'm asking if and how it is possible to check permissions of custom resources |
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<cboos> |
that's easy, wait... |
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<cboos> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/4599 |
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<cboos> |
something like this? |
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<cboos> |
the permid are not registered, they are produced by the context. By default it's the (realm,id) tuple |
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<cboos> |
some specialized contexts can override this |
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<cboos> |
like the AttachmentContext, which adds to permid of it's parent context |
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<Blackhex> |
ok so if i want some resource to be checked I have to only create context for it, don't I? |
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<cboos> |
exactly |
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<Blackhex> |
thanks |
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<Blackhex> |
One more question, please: Did you (Trac team) thing about some general interface for notification (e-mail, ICQ, Jabber, etc...)? |
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<cboos> |
yes, |
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<Blackhex> |
something like INotificationProvider and INotificationRequestor |
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<Blackhex> |
and? |
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<cboos> |
the notification stuff should be hooked on the IChangeListener we already have, and... |
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<cboos> |
the IChangeListener interfaces should be unified |
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<Blackhex> |
in 0.11? |
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<cboos> |
that would make it easy to create e-mail notiifcation for wiki changes etc. |
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<cboos> |
+ hook up other kind of notifications as you suggested |
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<cboos> |
0.11, well, depends on a number of things... |
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<cboos> |
especially how fast the Context changes will go in trunk ;) |
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<Blackhex> |
I'd like to use something like that in DiscussionPlugin, so if you'd like to help with something, tell me |
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<cboos> |
bug cmlenz, participate on trac-devel discussion etc. ;) |
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<Blackhex> |
ok |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: he, you're getting some love from Mr. I. ;) |
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<cboos> |
now that you fixed #4383, he's changing the owner of some other tickets from jonas to you ... |
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<zimbatm> |
hi |
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<zimbatm> |
on the trunk, the syntax highlighter seems to be broken and outputs "-1-1-TEXT" string at start of lines |
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<zimbatm> |
is this a known problem ? |
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<cboos> |
zimbatm: you should probably upgrade your Genshi package, what version do you use currently? |
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<zimbatm> |
trunk too |
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<zimbatm> |
maybe it's the pygment version... checking |
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<zimbatm> |
yay :) |
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<zimbatm> |
thx |
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<cboos> |
interesting, what was that pygment version? |
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<cboos> |
(the one that failed?) |
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<zimbatm> |
cboos: I can't seem to find the egg file, maybe it wasn't installed at all |
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<zimbatm> |
or should Genshi solve the dependency on install ? |
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<cboos> |
no |
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<cboos> |
there's no relationship between Genshi and Pygments |
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<cboos> |
it's only Trac that uses both |
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<cboos> |
and so far Trac doesn't use setuptools itself, so there's no automatic install of dependencies yet |
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<cboos> |
zimbatm: can you try to temporarily disable pygments, see if you have the "-1-1-TEXT" issue again? |
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<zimbatm> |
ok, how do you do that ? |
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<zimbatm> |
I've also found this bug : http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4386 |
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<zimbatm> |
I guess it's in site_packages egg info file |
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<zimbatm> |
cboos: I removed pygment from easy-install.pth and I have the previously mentioned error |
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<zimbatm> |
see : http://devlab.oree.ch/imp/wiki/lib_imp |
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<cboos> |
can you see in the log which renderer was used? |
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<cboos> |
maybe it's enscript... I haven't checked that one |
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<cboos> |
(you have to have debug level logging I think) |
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<abbas> |
hello |
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<zimbatm> |
I use apache2 + mod_python. Is the debug level in trac.ini ? |
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<cboos> |
@logging |
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<evil_twin> |
cboos: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors. |
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<cboos> |
yes, see the link above for details |
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<abbas> |
i have an issue |
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<abbas> |
i installed Trac few days back and all was working fine (with svn repositroy) |
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<abbas> |
but all of a sudden (from today) it is giving 'TracError: Unsupported version control system "svn"' error |
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<abbas> |
can anybody throw some light on this? |
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<zimbatm> |
cboos: http://pastie.caboo.se/35815 |
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<zimbatm> |
enscript seems to be missing so it uses the PlainTextRenderer |
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<cboos> |
ok ... and you're using trunk? latest? |
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<cboos> |
(Because there were a few fixes in that area 20-30 changesets ago or so) |
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<zimbatm> |
cboos: I'm using the trunk 4637 |
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<zimbatm> |
from like 1 hour ago |
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<zimbatm> |
same for genshi |
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<cboos> |
hm, wait I try to reproduce the issue |
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<zimbatm> |
ok |
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<byteshack> |
g'morning |
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<byteshack> |
I'd like to disallow ticket changes to tickets on closed milestones |
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<cboos> |
ha, yes, you're right ... |
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<byteshack> |
is ticket/web_ui.py:process_ticket_request() the place for such hack? |
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<byteshack> |
cboos: g'morning... and thanks for the work on the hg plugin |
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<cboos> |
zimbatm: so it's only when it _reverts_ to the plaintextrenderer, rendering a {{{ ... }}} block is ok... |
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<cboos> |
zimbatm: I'll fix that... |
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<cboos> |
byteshack: thanks! but there would be so much to do to improve Mercurial support ... |
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<cboos> |
about "disallow ticket changes to tickets on closed milestones" |
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<cboos> |
this could be done with a ITicketManipulator plugin |
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<cboos> |
(right now) |
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<cboos> |
but an even better solution would be a IPermissionPolicy plugin |
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<cboos> |
(security branch) |
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<cboos> |
where you could restrict the TICKET_MODIFY right depending on the ticket status... |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cboos: hmmm, that can disallow opening closed tickets :) |
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<cerw> |
hello everyone |
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<s0undt3ch> |
*re-opening |
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<cerw> |
Is ther some way i can add custom field to ticket, but DATETIME type? |
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<byteshack> |
is the IPermisionPolicy stuff in trunk? |
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<cboos> |
s0undt3ch: well yes, of course you have to take some precautions for such plugins ;) TICKET_ADMINs should be able to get those permissions regardless of the milestone's status |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cboos: yes, for sure :) |
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<zimbatm> |
thx cboos |
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<cboos> |
byteshack: not yet, but hopefully soon (I'm still discussing a few things with cmlenz) |
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<cboos> |
zimbatm: wait it's not yet fixed ;) |
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<byteshack> |
is there a better doc than the .py file for creating an ITicketManipulator plugin? |
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<byteshack> |
cboos: I'd be willing to see if I can help with the hg plugin |
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<byteshack> |
cboos: we inted to use it quite a bit, I'd say |
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<byteshack> |
s/inted/intend/ |
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<cboos> |
(about the ITicketManipulator) mh, no, but you can ask alect for help, as he wrote the stuff IIRC |
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<cboos> |
about hg, well that would be nice ;) |
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<cboos> |
one thing that shouldn't be hard to add in the current state of affairs would be the support for arbitrary diffs |
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<byteshack> |
right now diff are not generated by hg, correct? |
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<cboos> |
(sorry, I hit the wrong key ;) ) |
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<byteshack> |
tagging files as "Merged" with some color box would be nice too, in the changeset view |
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<cboos> |
yes, there's already a ticket about that |
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<cboos> |
but even better: right now, for a merge, I show the two diffs |
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<cboos> |
(against each parent) |
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<byteshack> |
I haven't had time to go over the tickets on your plugin's trac |
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<byteshack> |
cboos: and that diff with 2 parents in cool |
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<cboos> |
what would be even better would be to show only the conflict resolution... |
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<cboos> |
if there are some |
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<cboos> |
i.e. instead of old / new, have oldA / oldB /new |
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<cboos> |
but that's longer term; short term would be to support diffs from the revision log and arbitrary diffs ... i.e. implement REpository.get_changes() |
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<cboos> |
for the "big plans", see http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracMercurial#BugsandLimitations |
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<cboos> |
and http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/VcRefactoring |
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<cboos> |
that will be probably my focus for 0.12 |
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<cboos> |
(well, one of my focus, the other will be the GenericTrac stuff ;) ) |
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<byteshack> |
:) |
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<byteshack> |
I'm out to see if I can do something about this no-change-on-closed-branch deal. I was going to dirtify the web_ui.py, but I think a plugin would be a LOT nicer |
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<cerw> |
guys does anybody know some WEB SVN client then cacn checkout from remote SVN to LOCALFiles< i need svn client on my hosting bu dont have SSH .. |
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<cboos> |
cerw: well, if the remote end is running a Trac, you could use the browser and "Download as Zip" link |
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<cerw> |
i did not know there is downlaod think.. that must be plugin |
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<cboos> |
no, that's Trac >= 0.10 ;0 |
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<cerw> |
yeah that sounds ok but i would love to have webbased svn client.. which i can tell what to checkout and where.. etc.. |
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<cerw> |
it's realy hard to keep with FTP sync.. :( |
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<cboos> |
well, I think a few webdav clients should be compatible with mod_dav_svn ... |
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<cerw> |
webdav client hmmm!!! |
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<cerw> |
i can try that |
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<cboos> |
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.webdav.clients.html |
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<cboos> |
I'm not sure this lets you pick arbitrary revision, though. Probably only the latest. |
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<cerw> |
yeah only the HEAD |
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<cerw> |
but now need to find webbased webdav client |
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<byteshack> |
ah! ITicketManipulator :) ..... nice :) |
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<cerw> |
is ther some IRC bot which likes to talk to trac? |
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<cboos> |
well, there's evil_twin which let you point into Trac conveniently |
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<cboos> |
there used to be another bot, which listened to Trac events and relayed them in the channel |
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<cboos> |
(don't remember how it was called) |
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<cboos> |
but I don't know of a bot which could send stuff to Trac ... |
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<cerw> |
no |
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<cerw> |
i want trac -> bot |
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<cerw> |
that would be enought |
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<cerw> |
hmm u dont remenerb the name at all? |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cerw: supybot with the trac plug |
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<cerw> |
thankkss |
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<cboos> |
s0undt3ch: how was that bot called again (in the channel) ? |
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<cerw> |
emerging.. |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cboos: the evil_twin is supybot |
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<s0undt3ch> |
the trac "bindings" is the trac plug for supybot |
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<s0undt3ch> |
@version |
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<evil_twin> |
s0undt3ch: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.1. The newest version available online is 0.83.2. |
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<s0undt3ch> |
there y'all go ;) |
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<cerw> |
nice |
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<cboos> |
s0undt3ch: well, no I was not refering to evil_twin ... |
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<s0undt3ch> |
oh, you weren't |
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<s0undt3ch> |
heh |
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<s0undt3ch> |
what were you refernig to? |
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<cboos> |
there used to be another bot, whcih was saying at time : "changeset xyz committed (with the link)" |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cboos: are you talking about the wiki changes stuff? |
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<cboos> |
I don't remember if the wiki changes were also posted to the channel, but the changesets were ... |
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<s0undt3ch> |
supybot can also do that, just make him listen to the timeline |
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<s0undt3ch> |
the rss feed of the timeline |
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<cboos> |
oh, that would be great! |
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<s0undt3ch> |
of course for changeset's there's CIA |
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<s0undt3ch> |
that's what I use |
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<cerw> |
http://supybot.com/Members/Synapse/TracBot/1.0.1/release_view |
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<s0undt3ch> |
registereing projects with cia from a week ago has been made pretty simple |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cboos: http://cia.navi.cx |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cboos: here's an example |
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<s0undt3ch> |
02:41:43 < CIA-22> I18NToolBox: s0undt3ch * r45 /branches/bitten/ (5 files in 4 dirs): First try on the bitten branch. |
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<s0undt3ch> |
that does not include the changeset url though |
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<Synapse> |
cerw: That doesn't listen. |
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<Synapse> |
It's for generating links to tickets, and creating tickets. |
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<s0undt3ch> |
Synapse: heh, you're the creator of the TracBot? |
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<Synapse> |
Yes indeed. |
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<s0undt3ch> |
Congrats! |
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<Synapse> |
I have a half-written tutorial on integrating supybot with trac on my blog. |
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<Synapse> |
http://www.mootpointer.com/articles/2007/01/24/so-you-want-your-very-own-towncrier |
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<cerw> |
thanks mate! |
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<cboos> |
WhippingBoy, that was the old one I was thinking of ... |
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<s0undt3ch> |
cboos: dunno what was behind WhippingBoy :) |
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<cboos> |
well AFAICT, WhippingBoy was also the name of the program ;) |
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<cboos> |
http://www.mootpointer.com/pages/TownCrier |
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<cboos> |
more specifically, it was "TracBot", a clone of WhippingBoy according to the link above |
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<SpComb> |
pfft supybot :P |
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<cboos> |
Synapse: so IIUC, it would be possible to get the changeset notifications with evil_twin? |
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<Synapse> |
cboos: That's mine, and yes. |
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<Synapse> |
Though, generally, I'd recommend CIA. |
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<cboos> |
well, I ask because it would be nice to trigger some discussions in the #trac channel, as the changesets pour in ;) |
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<s0undt3ch> |
if there's a poll about it, CIA +1 :) |
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<s0undt3ch> |
though CIA requires a post-commit hook setup |
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<SpComb> |
indeed, CIA is a cool bot (although SpBot is cooler) |
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<s0undt3ch> |
for 2 diferent things |
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<s0undt3ch> |
although I'm not oposed to enhance TracBot :) |
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<SpComb> |
even though it doesn't actually do anything useful yet, it's still cooler on a conceptual level |
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<s0undt3ch> |
I think the design lines and goal achievements behind both were really diferent |
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<Synapse> |
Actually, they were remarkably similar, I was just in the middle of my final year of highschool so I couldn't do anything properly. |
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<Synapse> |
I wanted to but some notfication events in trac and have a full on XML-RPC solution. |
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<Synapse> |
That's still on the cards for this year, depends how university treats me. |
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<Synapse> |
I can bring TownCrier in here to show you what it's like. |
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<Synapse> |
Or you could pop into any number of channels and look. |
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<Synapse> |
But for now, I sleep. |
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<__doc__> |
I've gotten a trac error of a trac that has been running untouched for quite a while. Is this a common/recurring phenomenon that tracs break on their own? |
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<cboos> |
__doc__: what kind of error? |
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<__doc__> |
cboos: sorry, gotta run. back later |
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<cboos> |
ok, or create a ticket ;) |
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<The_Tick> |
cboos: I think __doc__ needs to read this: http://www.mikeash.com/getting_answers.html |
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<cboos> |
The_Tick: thanks for the link, interesting material for our |
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<cboos> |
@wiki IrcChannel |
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<evil_twin> |
cboos: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/IrcChannel |
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<The_Tick> |
ya |
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<The_Tick> |
I think it's the best at getting to the point about it |
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<cboos> |
I also like how he qualifies the how-to-ask-questions-in-a-smart-way ... "pretty condescending, especially if you already feel insulted by somebody telling you that you need help asking questions". Nicely put ;) |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: hello again |
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<pacopablo> |
morning |
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<bnovc> |
I'm using basically this same code on another server and it works, but I'm getting no errors that I can find so I thought someone might have an idea: http://home.bnovc.com/tracsetup.txt - all I get is The requested URL /448/trac was not found on this server. |
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<cboos> |
hello paco |
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<pacopablo> |
hello cboos |
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<pacopablo> |
bnovc: is the rest of the apache config the same? |
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<pacopablo> |
between the two servers that is |
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<cboos> |
cmlenz: ping |
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<cboos> |
ok, time for a mail... |
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<cboos> |
see you later folks |
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<byteshack> |
what do I need to import to get an ITicketManipulator implementor to work? |
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<unlord> |
is it possible to create new Component categories via the web interface |
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<unlord> |
or do I have to do it via trac-admin |
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