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[03:03:53] <FruitBatInShades> I am trying to install trac on a windows 2003 server and not having much luck :(
[03:06:55] <FruitBatInShades> When I run trac-admin /path/to/myproject initenv it creates the directories and sqllite file but doesn't seem to create any page files!
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[05:42:43] <thm> is there a way to circumenvent the spambayes filter other than trying to modify a ticket comment until it gets accepted? this is somewhat annoying.
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[06:08:17] <byteshack> question question... in req.args, why do all checkboxes come across as '1' even if they have not been checked?
[06:09:00] <byteshack> (i.e. how can I tell which check boxes were checked?)
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[06:58:31] <`ph8> Hi guys! My group permissions just seem to be getting ignored in trac, everying in group A is a wiki_admin for example - but none of these users can use those permissions unless i set them for that user specifically
[06:58:59] <charzero> `ph8: Did you restart the web server?
[07:01:52] <`ph8> after adding people to groups?
[07:02:04] <`ph8> ooo probably not - will give it a go
[07:12:08] <charzero> `ph8: Did that fix it?
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[07:17:16] <kisak> g'morning folks
[07:19:02] <kisak> if I were looking for plugin that tells me whenever a change happened to a ticket, including comments, where would I look?
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[07:22:17] <Wyvern24> Hello
[07:22:42] <Wyvern24> Anyone using TimingAndEstimationPlugin?
[07:22:53] <Wyvern24> I have it almost working but not completely :(
[07:25:07] <Wyvern24> I've followed http://www.trac-hacks.org/wiki/TimingAndEstimationSVNPostCommitHook and I can close my tickets but no hours are added to the ticket
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[07:40:42] <Iano> anyone have experience with an email2trac setup? I'm using 0.9.6 /w latest email2trac and no python errors, but my ticket never shows up, ideas?
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[07:45:36] <dav1> lano: just a newb with trac as a whole but have you looked at http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/EmailtoTracScript
[07:45:47] <dav1> under the Usage section?
[07:46:05] <Iano> yeah
[07:46:10] <Iano> been pretty much all over the page & web
[07:46:12] <dav1> I have used tools that email things and getting that part right is usually the biggest hassle
[07:46:25] <Iano> i'm running the manual process outside of sendmail
[07:46:27] <Iano> and still no luck
[07:46:30] <dav1> espec sendmail stuff if that is what you are using
[07:46:41] <Iano> unless its ignoring my msg.txt because it doesn't contain proper email headers?
[07:46:51] <Iano> im not sure how the script is taking information in
[07:46:53] <dav1> network tracing
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[07:48:57] <dav1> I guess just trace through from the beginning. sorry cant be anymore help. would like to use the email2trac stuff myself
[07:49:46] <dav1> been searching for a wiki with several features and this might be a solution if I can get the pieces to play well together.
[07:49:59] <Iano> yeah
[07:50:00] <Iano> hmm
[07:59:13] <charzero> ticket_change doesn't have a foreign key to ticket on ticket_change.ticket = ticket.id ?!
[08:12:43] <Wyvern24> Can I reopen a ticket with subversion comments?
[08:21:50] <charzero> Explain?
[08:24:05] <Wyvern24> I mean... I can close tickets with subversion comments
[08:24:15] <Wyvern24> is it possible to re-open already-closed tickets?
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[08:39:46] <coderanger> Wyvern24: Yes
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[08:41:06] <coderanger> kisak: Trac already does email notifications for tickets
[08:41:26] <coderanger> charzero: Trac has no foreign keys anywhere
[08:42:00] <kisak> coderanger: for comments?
[08:42:05] <coderanger> Wyvern24: You would need to modify the post-commit script, or look for one of the patched versions floating around
[08:42:16] <coderanger> kisak: Yeah, add yourself to the CC list
[08:43:17] <kisak> coderanger: that means I should setup a local email server ... any recommendations?
[08:43:39] <coderanger> kisak: A default postfix install should be fine
[08:46:43] <kisak> does postfix have a webui?
[08:46:50] <coderanger> Nope
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[08:47:07] <coderanger> But you don't need to change anything, the defaults are pretty good
[08:47:32] <kisak> are there generic webui's that could fetch from postfix?
[08:47:54] <coderanger> fetch what?
[08:48:07] <kisak> email messages
[08:48:26] <coderanger> postfix is an SMTP server only, it doesn't do access, just delivery
[08:48:39] <coderanger> so you would point the email at a real address
[08:48:48] <coderanger> postfix would just relay it for you
[08:49:12] <kisak> oh, I was asking about what would recieve the email
[08:49:46] <coderanger> Pick an email provider :P
[08:50:01] <coderanger> You could run it yourself of course, but thats somewhat out of the scope of this chan
[08:50:03] <dav1> lano: email2trac: message headers are required if you are just piping things in directly.
[08:50:15] <kisak> coderanger: fair enough
[08:50:35] <coderanger> kisak: Personally I use dovecot for IMAP, works great with minimal hassle
[08:51:05] <coderanger> kisak: And SquirrelMail is a good FOSS webmail system
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[08:54:03] <phiend117> hello, installing trac (or trying to ;) for the 1st time. Why would the installer program require the .Net SDK for building extensions for Python ??
[08:54:58] <coderanger> You generally don't build extensions on windows, most libraries publish binaries
[08:55:54] <phiend117> yes, that would have been nice.
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[08:58:29] <phiend117> it seems to be trying to build pysqlite-2.3.3.tar.gz; I'm wondering if I install sqlite seperately, is the installation program smart enough to skip building this ?
[08:58:59] <coderanger> given how new the installer script is, I would say its not likely
[08:59:17] <coderanger> But you can probably just comment out the lines for it
[08:59:58] <phiend117> hrmmm...worth a try.
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[09:37:51] <phiend117> coderanger, it appears that I have a successful test installation =) Many thanks !!
[09:39:04] <coderanger> Whee, Genshi is nice :)
[09:47:37] <m_g> the bugzilla2trac script is not compatible with 0.10, is it?
[09:47:59] <coderanger> i think it is
[09:49:05] <m_g> TracImport refers to http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/contrib/bugzilla2trac.py which states that it requires Trac 0.9 and since it does direct SQL commands i suspect it will fail on 0.10.. is that wrong?
[09:49:58] <neuralis> coderanger: grumble. so, we want to let authenticated users change ticket descriptions, which seemingly the only way to do is to grant TICKET_ADMIN to 'authenticated'. but doing so conveniently enables webadmin to show the admin link for tickets to everyone that logs in.
[09:50:23] <neuralis> coderanger: is it easier to hack webadmin to only trigger on TRAC_ADMIN, or to add a different TICKET permission for modifying descriptions?
[09:50:51] <coderanger> m_g: The DB schema didn't change that much
[09:51:10] <coderanger> neuralis: TICKET_MODIFY?
[09:51:45] <neuralis> coderanger: nope, ticket_modify doesn't let you change description. only ticket_admin.
[09:52:04] <coderanger> Hrmm
[09:52:09] <m_g> coderanger, hm okay
[09:52:21] <coderanger> neuralis: I think I can whip up a plugin, one sec
[09:52:32] <coderanger> neuralis: 0.10 or trunk?
[09:52:59] <neuralis> 0.10b1, i can dig out the exact revno
[09:53:50] <neuralis> 3678
[09:54:01] <neuralis> with minor custom patches mostly unrelated to the ticket system
[09:54:59] <coderanger> neuralis: Is it a problem if they can change other ticket fields in addition to the desc?
[09:56:38] <neuralis> nope
[09:56:55] <neuralis> i'd be fine giving them ticket_admin if webadmin wasn't kicking in.
[09:57:02] <neuralis> (sure it's not easier to just hack webadmin for this?)
[09:57:31] <coderanger> Almost done :)
[09:58:37] <neuralis> heh, rock.
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[10:19:43] <jmb> I wonder if someone could help with the following problem?: I have an SVN root at /var/svn and trac installed as a fastcgi on apache2. The trac project root is at /var/trac. All appears to work fine, except that the repository browser's root is a folder called "var" (i.e. http://host/trac/browser/var/svn/ is the root of the actual repository). I was under the impression that http://host/trac/browser/ would contain the root of the repository. I can see
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[10:24:59] <coderanger> neuralis: dev.coderanger.net/src/changedesc/dist/
[10:26:10] <coderanger> neuralis: Will create a new perm, TICKET_MODIFY_DESC
[10:26:27] <coderanger> neuralis: Giving that is like giving TICKET_ADMIN without changing the nav bar
[10:27:23] <coderanger> jmb: What did you give for repo_dir?
[10:28:14] <jmb> repository_dir = /var/svn
[10:28:41] <coderanger> jmb: And you are sure you don't have a "var" folder in the repo?
[10:28:54] <jmb> certain
[10:29:27] <neuralis> coderanger: thanks much, will try in a minute
[10:29:32] <coderanger> jmb: Sounds bug worthy
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[10:36:50] <jmb> coderanger: actually; you were right; it was the repository contents being wrong. thanks.
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[10:38:32] <pygi> hey ho neuralis
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[10:40:04] * jMCg is having some trouble with trac right now.
[10:40:23] <jMCg> I'm getting an Internal Server Error uppon on access -- the error log doesn't show anything.
[10:41:17] <coderanger> jMCg: Trac log on debug?
[10:41:28] <jMCg> coderanger: nope
[10:41:32] <jMCg> coderanger: how'd I put it on debug?
[10:42:01] <coderanger> @logging
[10:42:01] <evil_twin> coderanger: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[10:44:25] <jMCg> coderanger: well.. nope.. no success at all..
[10:45:13] <jMCg> coderanger: no log is being created [chowned the log dir to www-data, Debian's Apache user]
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[10:45:31] <coderanger> jMCg: Did you restart apache?
[10:45:35] <jMCg> coderanger: of course.
[10:46:49] <coderanger> jMCg: If nothing is being logged at debug, that means the error is likely before Trac
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[10:46:57] <Wyvern24> or better, use syslog
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[10:49:02] <jMCg> Wyvern24: nope.. no effect. Nothing being logged.
[10:49:11] <Wyvern24> strange
[10:49:25] <jMCg> And people are trying to access this thing you see... I'm a little under stress.......
[10:50:06] <jMCg> It just happend like this.. I don't get it.. one moment it works -- I change one value in my trac.ini [tab-width], restart the server and can't access trac.
[10:50:36] <kkatzke> What about your web server error-log?
[10:50:37] <jMCg> It might be due to the fact that another of my sites is being /.ed as we speak.. but I don't think so.. as all other's are well accessible.
[10:51:50] <jMCg> kkatzke: nothing.
[10:53:13] <Wyvern24> try with tracd
[10:53:15] <jMCg> I'm considering to kill /.ed site to see if it's my server that's unable to respond....
[10:53:21] <Wyvern24> stop trying with apache
[10:53:40] <kkatzke> Nah, if you're getting ISE's it's something between apache and mod_python.
[10:53:47] <jMCg> Wyvern24: tracd won't be able server at port 80, unless I proxy it.
[10:54:24] <jMCg> Wyvern24: yeah.. it could be.. apache's too busy.. and misses mod_python's answers..
[10:55:41] <jMCg> I don't get this.
[10:55:55] <coderanger> neuralis: If that plugin doesnt work shoot me an email, I'll be back on in a few hours
[10:56:38] <neuralis> sure thing, thanks.
[10:59:42] <thm> does someone know whether paths (nodenames) within trac are expected to begin with / or not, or the other way round: what is the imaginary root called?
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[11:19:29] <jMCg> I don't get it.. I don't get an error in the error log.
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[11:19:33] <jMCg> Nothing.
[11:19:37] <jMCg> No-thing.
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[12:00:04] <byteshack> can I get a pointer to where the code for generating a valid list of people for the "reassing to" drop down is?
[12:00:29] <byteshack> I can see that it comes from values in the session table
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[12:00:36] <byteshack> but I can't find where the code is
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[12:01:26] <byteshack> seems that it must be in ticket/web_ui.py, but I can't see it
[12:07:56] <byteshack> ah, it seems to come from perm.get_users_with_permission(...)
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[12:23:08] <zedas> howdy folks. i'm moving a trac install from one machine to another.
[12:23:28] <pacopablo> oi, Russell Duhon, you in here?
[12:23:29] <zedas> everything is working fine, but i need to figure out where DefaultPermissionStore is so i can copy the users over too
[12:23:43] <pacopablo> zedas: what were you using beofre?
[12:23:56] <pacopablo> permissions are stored in the database
[12:24:08] <pacopablo> and users are generally stored in an htpasswd file
[12:24:13] <zedas> pacopablo: it's a box that we're decomissioning. redhat linux over to redhat linux.
[12:24:15] <pacopablo> or whatever you use, based on your web server
[12:24:38] <zedas> htpasswd? hmmm.
[12:24:46] <pacopablo> zedas: the permissions, such as pacopablo has TRAC_ADMIN permissions, are stored in the database
[12:24:51] <zedas> so trac doesn't do it's own auth, it just trusts the web server?
[12:25:02] <pacopablo> which, if using sqlite, is in your trac environment
[12:25:07] <kkatzke> Depends on how you have it set up.
[12:25:11] <pacopablo> zedas: right, unless you're using the account manager plugin
[12:25:17] <kkatzke> Trac trusts the web server unless you're ... what paco said
[12:25:24] <pacopablo> hehe
[12:25:25] <zedas> pacopablo: ok i mispoke. that's all copied. i need the authentication information, which you're saying is most likely in an htpasswd db.
[12:25:27] * kkatzke defers to pacopablo, as he is the font of all knowledge
[12:25:35] <kkatzke> font? fountain? whatever.
[12:25:43] <pacopablo> zedas: yes
[12:25:46] <pacopablo> kkatzke: fount
[12:25:53] <kkatzke> See? What he said.
[12:25:58] <pacopablo> kkatzke: and it's coderanger that's all knowing ;)
[12:26:02] <pacopablo> @faq problem
[12:26:02] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "problem" is along a long enough time line, all problems will be solved by coderanger
[12:26:03] <zedas> pacopablo: account manager plugin sounds interesting. especially since htpasswd is nasty and horrible.
[12:26:27] <pacopablo> zedas: agreed, though the account manager can use an htpasswd file also
[12:26:35] <zedas> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin <--
[12:26:38] <zedas> that?
[12:26:41] <pacopablo> yes
[12:26:59] <pacopablo> the other one you can look at is the dbauth plugin
[12:27:49] <zedas> any pitfalls to watch out for?
[12:28:32] <pacopablo> I haven't actually used dbauth, so don't know about that, but the accountmanger plugin is fairly well documented
[12:29:01] <pacopablo> when using form based auth, just make sure you remember to disable the default login module
[12:29:08] <pacopablo> all documented on the site though
[12:29:20] <zedas> hmm easy_install is the only way. well, looks like more software to install.
[12:29:21] <pacopablo> anyone in here that is going to pycon?
[12:32:29] <jMCg> Voodoo? Black magic? - anyone?
[12:32:57] <zedas> pacopablo: ok thanks a bunch. i'm on the right track now.
[12:33:37] <kkatzke> paco, jMCg could use your help with some sysadmin type stuff. He's trying to troubleshoot an ISE500 that's not showing in log files on the server.
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[12:35:19] <jMCg> omfzd pacopablo -- I just hope he's already awake..
[12:35:47] <kkatzke> Yep, he was just talking a minute ago ...
[12:36:08] <kkatzke> But no, pablopaco, I can't go to pycon ... they'd smell the scent of PHP on me and throw me in with the vipers.
[12:36:10] <jMCg> Or still.
[12:36:34] <jMCg> kkatzke: doing PHP? Professionally? Or hobby?
[12:37:00] <kkatzke> PHP's my main professional language, I'm picking up python now mostly because Trac's such an awesome project.
[12:37:33] <jMCg> kkatzke: make it run again.
[12:38:17] * jMCg is doing Ruby as hobby [not! on Rails.. just instead of shell scripting]
[12:38:18] <kkatzke> jMCg: huh?
[12:38:40] <jMCg> kkatzke: it's dead. Make it live again.
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[12:39:15] <kkatzke> jMCg: Still not catching you. Trac's still dead, or PHP's dead, or what?
[12:39:56] <jMCg> kkatzke: my trac -- the trac on my production server -- is dead.
[12:40:48] <kkatzke> jMCg; Dunno how to help you. :( I'm n00b around here. Seems pacopablo ran off to get more knowledgebeans from coderanger or something.
[12:41:12] <kkatzke> You exhausted my ideas in the earlier conversation .. mod_python, checking various syslogs or other logging...
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[12:41:31] <kkatzke> Hmn. Can you run trac-admin on your trac instance at all?
[12:41:35] <pygi> jMCg, turn on the apache? :)
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[12:41:57] <kkatzke> pygi: He gets an ISE 500 but no debug output
[12:42:41] <pygi> The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request. :)
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[12:43:38] <kkatzke> Hard to debug tho if you get nothing in error_log, syslog, etc.
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[12:47:38] <jMCg> pygi: you can't escape death -- or my revenge.
[12:47:55] <pacopablo> jMCg: what's the problem?
[12:47:58] <kkatzke> jMCg: Or taxes, but that's a whole nother issue for consultants like me.
[12:48:03] <pygi> yea, yea, get a better wording :)
[12:48:08] <jMCg> pacopablo: http://trac.brainsware.org/bw.cms/
[12:48:36] <pacopablo> jMCg: you hvae to have SOMETHING in your apache log
[12:49:18] <jMCg> pacopablo: all of my trac projects [which are devliverd by one vhost] show 500 Internal Server Error to the client -- error log says NOTHING --- apart from the tries where I disabled the location stuff and sethandler mod_python blah to test if there's ANY reaction and there was.
[12:49:42] <pacopablo> jMCg: is mod_python segfaulting?
[12:49:51] <pacopablo> and the main question, what did you change?
[12:49:57] <jMCg> pacopablo: if it was, I guess I'd get something in the error log, wouldn't i?
[12:50:01] <kkatzke> pacopablo: worth noting that jMCg's server is being /.'d right now
[12:50:11] <pacopablo> jMCg: which error log are you looking in ?
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[12:50:20] <jMCg> pacopablo: I changed some tiny little thing in one trac.ini in one project - restarted - gone.
[12:50:35] <jMCg> pacopablo: that's what I *know* about.. I traced it to other things, couldn't find anything.
[12:50:53] <jMCg> pacopablo: the vhosts, the server's global log,.
[12:51:25] <pacopablo> and what happens when you run the trac site via tracd?
[12:51:33] <jMCg> pacopablo: haven't tried yet.
[12:51:37] <pacopablo> try
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[12:55:45] <jMCg> How do I tell tracd to serve all projects?
[12:56:24] <jMCg> tracd --env-parent-dir . -p 8080 -a wtf..?
[12:56:34] <pacopablo> tracd -e /path/to/parent/dir
[12:56:43] <pacopablo> what do you use for auth?
[12:57:25] <jMCg> basic
[12:57:37] <jMCg> Got a .htpasswd file
[12:58:05] <jMCg> [this is the production server -- not the test-server, that works.. and works with auth via PostgreSQL]
[12:58:35] <jMCg> pacopablo: ^
[12:59:45] <pacopablo> so tracd works?
[12:59:50] <jMCg> wow.. man tracd is a great help...
[13:00:37] <jMCg> http://brainsware.org:8080/ <<
[13:00:39] <jMCg> I guess...
[13:00:45] <jMCg> And.. I have no idea..
[13:01:59] <jMCg> I ran it with just tracd -e . -p 8080 and.. iptables say port 8080 is not open -_-;;
[13:02:33] * asmodai shoos pacopablo to PyCon
[13:03:00] <pacopablo> asmodai: I'm so excited! ;) looking for someone to possibly room with though
[13:03:18] * pacopablo is disappointed that it's not in DC this year
[13:03:48] <asmodai> pacopablo: Sorry, not going to be there.
[13:04:09] <pacopablo> asmodai: yeah, I know, you and your hatred of certain locations ;)
[13:04:21] <asmodai> Hahah, no hatred.
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[13:05:06] <pacopablo> jMCg: if tracd can render the page, then you're best off looking at apache
[13:05:16] <jMCg> pacopablo: it works...
[13:05:23] <jMCg> pacopablo: with tracd --- but only localhost..
[13:05:29] <pacopablo> jMCg: as it's not likely a trac issue then
[13:05:30] <jMCg> iptables refuses to open up port 8080...
[13:05:41] <jMCg> I don't een wanna know why or how.
[13:06:04] <pacopablo> sounds like you're having other issues with your server ;)
[13:06:36] <jMCg> pacopablo: sounds like some people are gonna have to die.
[13:07:37] <jMCg> Either that or I'll just procastinate until the come crawling on their knees and begg me to fix what's not fixable [until the all the testing setup should be finished and I can merge]
[13:08:48] <pacopablo> hehe
[13:08:57] <pacopablo> you could configure apache to proxy to tracd
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[13:11:28] <jMCg> pacopablo: traced the iptables error. was Debian bitchage
[13:11:34] <jMCg> pacopablo: thought bout that too.
[13:11:53] <jMCg> pacopablo: never did anything with proxy.. that's why i.. puughhhmm... will learn how to do that now.
[13:13:08] <pacopablo> hehe
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[13:14:52] <jMCg> pacopablo: I still have the issue with the auth stuff..
[13:15:10] <jMCg> How do I tell tracd to auth my lusers?
[13:15:11] <zedas> pacopablo: so i've got it all working, and i'm actually running tracd as a standalone server with apache proxying to it. very easy to setup.
[13:15:17] <zedas> pacopablo: even got the basic auth working.
[13:15:35] <zedas> pacopablo: and as an added bonus i fixed a bug that made redirects not work right behind a proxy: http://pastie.caboo.se/36786
[13:16:15] <zedas> pacopablo: so thanks for the help.
[13:16:25] * jMCg is grinning wide...
[13:16:33] <jMCg> zedas: don't you wanna paste your apache config...?
[13:16:46] <zedas> jMCg: sure, and i can give you my tracd start
[13:16:55] <jMCg> zedas: I love you.
[13:16:58] <zedas> jMCg: just so you know, i wrote http://mongrel.rubyforge.org/ so i'm doing my config like that.
[13:17:01] <jMCg> Or maybe this is the caffeine..
[13:17:32] <pacopablo> zedas: good to hear you got it working
[13:21:24] <zedas> jMCg: http://pastie.caboo.se/36786 there ya are
[13:22:10] <zedas> jMCg: make those changes to api.py, the apache file i just put into /etc/httpd/conf/apps/myrailsapp.conf and then include apps/*.conf in the main file.
[13:22:30] <pacopablo> zedas: have you looked for tickets regarding that change you made?
[13:22:53] <zedas> and the --basic-auth option to tracd you can replace the first "myproj" with * and use one htpasswd file for all projects.
[13:22:56] <pacopablo> I think I remeber some discussion about this a little while agao, but can't remember where
[13:22:57] <zedas> pacopablo: nope.
[13:23:29] <zedas> pacopablo: i didn't take a look. sorry.
[13:23:44] <jMCg> zedas: wow.. that looks ugly.
[13:23:56] <jMCg>