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February 03, 2007

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[00:24:17] <Jomu> I have problem with trac.fcgi processess running wild on my machine, while apparently no request is served at all
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[00:25:16] <Jomu> version is 0.10.2
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[00:50:05] <remiss> hey, I need some help.. what's causing this: http://pastebin.ca/338254 ?
[00:51:51] <remiss> it's happening when I try to change the wiki-page
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[01:00:15] <remiss> hmm.. trac obviously wants write-acces to the whole tracenv, is that right?
[01:02:38] <jMCg> remiss: you didn't even give it write access to the SQLite database?
[01:04:43] <remiss> I did that much..
[01:05:31] <jMCg> remiss: did you thest the path with namei?
[01:06:09] <remiss> no
[01:07:09] <remiss> nevertheless, it was readable until trac.db and write for apache on trac.db
[01:07:46] <remiss> aanyway.. works now
[01:11:14] <jMCg> Great.
[01:11:21] <jMCg> Let's celebrate!
[01:14:17] <remiss> :p
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[01:19:34] <remiss> hmm.. what's the normal thing to do when making a release? just attacthing the file to one of the pages?
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[01:28:08] <whereami> I'm having a problem with authentication on my Trac 0.10.3 site. For some reason, logins are just not remembered for very long, sometimes not at all. Using acct_mgr and HtDigestStore and acct_mgr's html login module. getting rid of cookies seems to allow one to log in sometimes. but still, not for very long.
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[02:14:14] <s0undt3ch> have you guys sucessfuly made apache serve a static robots.txt when using trac on mod_python under /?
[02:22:06] <s0undt3ch> got it
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[04:38:29] <Nenad> Hello
[04:39:20] <Nenad> I'm searching for a way to upload multiple attachments to a Trac Wiki page
[04:40:15] <Nenad> without having to use the Add Attachment button for each
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[05:16:05] <Guardian> hello
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[05:23:14] <illuin> I see that Trac can use postgresql via either psycopg2 or pyPgSQL. Is there any reason to prefer one over the other?
[05:36:39] <coderanger> Use psycopg2
[05:38:15] <illuin> thanks
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[06:24:16] <m4lu6> coderanger : anything about running trac in apache cgi that might bork up request headers? It's a mystery to me why Authorization header is *never* present in _inheaders (from api.py), consequently httpauth plugin always returns a None. phooey.
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[09:14:33] <WHiTeFLy> hey guys
[09:14:40] <WHiTeFLy> i have a q about linking a page in trac
[09:14:54] <WHiTeFLy> anyone not AFK?
[09:16:04] <matt_good> WHiTeFLy: it's best to just ask your question and someone will try to answer it when they're around
[09:17:02] <WHiTeFLy> okie dokie
[09:17:24] <WHiTeFLy> How do I make a page automatically redirect to another site instead of just making a link?
[09:19:32] <m4lu6> How/where do I add a new Resolution to the ticketing system? (or does someone have a better idea for displaying assigning 'in-progress' items)?
[09:19:42] <m4lu6> Oh, and I got Mylar working. Coooool stuff.
[09:22:12] <WHiTeFLy> instead of just posting a link on one of my trac pages, i want it auto-direct you to the page, how do i do that?
[09:26:37] <matt_good> WHiTeFLy: there's an old macro for that, but I'm not sure if it works on current versions: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MacroBazaar#Redirect
[09:26:40] <m4lu6> WHiTeFLy you talking about a redirect?
[09:27:24] <WHiTeFLy> well ya
[09:27:32] <matt_good> m4lu6: why would you be marking an "in-progress" ticket as "resolved"?
[09:27:56] <matt_good> we typically use "accepted" as a sign the developer is actually working on a ticket
[09:27:56] <WHiTeFLy> i dont even want to link to a trac site, just to http://www.abcd. om
[09:29:06] <matt_good> WHiTeFLy: you can't do that directly in Trac, so you'll need to write a macro for it
[09:29:09] <m4lu6> matt_good understood, but my manager wants me to add an 'in-progress' status to the Resolutions drop down on our Trac. I'd love to say "Sod off, tosser.", but I chewed up all my insubordination points for the month already.
[09:32:16] <m4lu6> i guess it's because manager wants our Clients to 'see' that an item is being worked on. "Accepted" means, to them, "I've seen it, and I agree to do it.", while "in-progress' means "Your crummy task is currently being worked on, in my editor, at this moment." yada yada.
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[09:32:34] <m4lu6> So. How do I add a Resolution to the resolution drop down? :)
[09:38:52] <matt_good> m4lu6: well, it's not "official", but you can add it directly in the DB
[09:39:15] <matt_good> but it'll be a PITA because when you actually fix the ticket you'll need to reopen it before actually marking it as fixed
[09:39:57] <m4lu6> that's what they want, that's what they get.
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[09:41:26] <m4lu6> i suppose I could talk them out of it, if I could do a 'in-progress' action. does that make more sense to you?
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[11:45:56] <johnboy> hello everyone
[11:46:08] <johnboy> ive got a question about trac
[11:46:13] <johnboy> anyone care to assist?
[11:46:25] <pacopablo> won't know until you actually ask the question
[11:46:30] <johnboy> cool
[11:46:52] <johnboy> I've installed trac and have a valid set up, i run the webserver which is included
[11:47:02] <johnboy> however when i point to http://localhost
[11:47:13] <johnboy> i get the following: available projects
[11:47:19] <johnboy> nothing about trac
[11:47:56] <pacopablo> did you create a trac environment?
[11:48:00] <johnboy> yes
[11:48:04] <johnboy> if you mean the folders?
[11:48:22] <pacopablo> and what's the command line that you are using to run tracd ?
[11:48:27] <johnboy> yup
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[11:49:06] <johnboy> tracd.py p8000 c:\projects\svn\my-projects
[11:49:11] <IamLordV1ldemort> Hows all
[11:49:13] <pacopablo> evil has arrived!
[11:49:31] * IamLordV1ldemort aims my wands.
[11:49:33] <IamLordV1ldemort> Never mind
[11:49:34] <johnboy> hello, I'm a newb here
[11:49:36] <IamLordV1ldemort> I will keep that "put away"
[11:49:37] <IamLordV1ldemort> =P
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[11:49:51] <pacopablo> IamLordV1ldemort: yeah, don't point that thing at me! ;)
[11:50:13] <IamLordV1ldemort> pacopablo: Well, freenode rejected DrunkenCompanyWreakingIntellectualPropertyThief as a nick
[11:50:24] <johnboy> lol
[11:50:28] <pacopablo> johnboy: I take it that you are acutally using: tracd.py -p 8000 c:\projects\svn\my-projects
[11:50:34] <johnboy> yup
[11:50:38] <pacopablo> IamLordV1ldemort: so, sad
[11:50:43] <IamLordV1ldemort> pacopablo: Life.
[11:50:46] <pacopablo> there is always DrCript
[11:50:51] <IamLordV1ldemort> hahahaha
[11:50:58] <IamLordV1ldemort> I really do like that.
[11:51:07] <IamLordV1ldemort> Maybe we should revert to that nam for TenV
[11:51:10] <IamLordV1ldemort> Tenv PRO
[11:51:11] <IamLordV1ldemort> =P
[11:51:22] <pacopablo> johnboy: is c:\projects\svn\my-projects your subversion repository?
[11:51:34] <IamLordV1ldemort> johnboy: Does it make any difference if you uise / instead of \?
[11:51:46] <IamLordV1ldemort> johnboy: I thinmk that python is smarter than that, but I would try.
[11:52:06] <pacopablo> or what you used when you did: trac-admin.py c:\projects\svn\my-projects initenv ?
[11:52:13] <pacopablo> finally, logging:
[11:52:17] <pacopablo> @faq logging
[11:52:17] <evil_twin> pacopablo: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[11:52:48] <johnboy> hmm
[11:52:51] <johnboy> no diff
[11:53:28] <johnboy> am im ment to get available projects?
[11:53:32] <johnboy> or am i ment to see trac?
[11:53:59] <pacopablo> you're meant to get a list of available projects
[11:54:16] <johnboy> this is odd
[11:54:20] <pacopablo> you need to use -s if you want tracd to run the env off of /
[11:54:35] <pacopablo> but you're supposed to a list of projects, not just "available projects"
[11:54:44] <johnboy> ok
[11:54:45] <pacopablo> is tracd saying anything?
[11:54:50] <johnboy> yeh
[11:54:54] <pacopablo> what?
[11:54:55] <asmodai> It wants the weekend of.
[11:54:58] <asmodai> off
[11:55:02] <johnboy> lol
[11:55:05] <johnboy> yeh no doubt
[11:55:06] <asmodai> ;)
[11:55:09] <johnboy> :)
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[11:56:06] <johnboy> trac: Error
[11:56:06] <johnboy> ([Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'c:\\Projects\\svn\\trac\\VERSION')
[11:56:13] <johnboy> i'm getting that error in ie
[11:56:42] <pacopablo> which means that you're passing 'C:\projects\svn\trac' to tracd
[11:56:56] <johnboy> WOAH
[11:56:58] <johnboy> yipeeeeeeeeee
[11:57:08] <johnboy> it works!!
[11:57:33] * pacopablo curses div's
[11:57:39] <pacopablo> HTML sucks
[11:58:25] <johnboy> lol
[11:58:38] <johnboy> i now how to figure out how to customize these pages
[11:59:19] <johnboy> can i ask 1 more question
[11:59:20] <johnboy> ?
[11:59:43] <johnboy> ive got apache running (which is switched off for now) but can i use appache to load my website and trac?
[12:00:02] <pacopablo> @wiki TracModPython
[12:00:02] <evil_twin> pacopablo: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython
[12:00:08] <pacopablo> @wiki TracFastCgi
[12:00:08] <evil_twin> pacopablo: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFastCgi
[12:00:16] <pacopablo> @wiki TracCgi
[12:00:16] <evil_twin> pacopablo: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracCgi
[12:00:22] <johnboy> there for me?
[12:00:22] <pacopablo> take your pick
[12:00:32] <pacopablo> yes
[12:00:33] <johnboy> the first one ;)
[12:00:51] <kopernikus> hi, in 0.11 dev the PermissionCache is used as a sequence in a genshi template but it doesn't implement the iterator protocol
[12:01:27] <johnboy> woah looks complex
[12:01:39] <kopernikus> Now adding that would be easy, but I'm not clear about the semantics of PermissionSystem
[12:01:41] <pacopablo> johnboy: it's apache, what did you expect?
[12:01:46] <johnboy> lol
[12:02:00] <johnboy> ill read and study the pages
[12:02:07] <johnboy> thanks by the way pacopablo
[12:02:10] <johnboy> your a star
[12:02:11] <johnboy> *
[12:02:13] <johnboy> :)
[12:03:23] <kopernikus> the docstring of PermissionSystem.get_user_permissions() stages it returns a dict with actions as keys and True and False as value, for granted and denied permissions
[12:04:54] <kopernikus> but PermissionCache.permissions() returns all permissions from PermissionSystem.get_user_permissions() without checking the value and it seems PermissionSystem.get_user_permissions() never sets a value to "False"...
[12:05:36] <pacopablo> kopernikus: you'll want to ping cboos
[12:05:46] <pacopablo> or send a message to trac-dev
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[12:09:45] <asmodai> I parsed that as pinging chaos
[12:11:48] <pacopablo> asmodai: that's been know to work at times too ;)
[12:12:19] <asmodai> But I might just create a typhoon across the world
[12:13:26] <kopernikus> hmm, I wonder if __contains__ will be enought ;)
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[12:56:22] <gmoore> let me say that trac+svn is the great combination ever
[12:56:39] <gmoore> and that trac has a stupifying level of detail
[12:57:00] <gmoore> eg clicking on the green part of the milestone progress bar showing you closed tickets and the white part showing you white tickets
[12:57:15] <gmoore> gooooooooo trac
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[13:05:34] <matt_good_> kopernikus: obviously the docstring is wrong there, cmlenz probably wrote that before the API was finished and forgot to update it when the API changed
[13:05:58] <matt_good_> kopernikus: normally we just use 'PERM_XYZ' in req.perm
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[14:09:02] <sebastian> hi everybody!
[14:10:26] <sebastian> I am currently struggeling to write my first trac plugin... unfortunately I don't get the examples running (I changed some naming and that might be the problem...)
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[14:11:31] <sebastian> when I want to implement a new plugin, is there a convention how to name the classes, the files, etc?
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[14:11:53] <sebastian> does something have to be named in a similar way?
[14:15:26] <pacopablo> how familiar are you with python?
[14:15:35] <pacopablo> and what docs have you been following?
[14:16:16] <sebastian> python - I wish it would be more, trac is currently the example I want learn it with
[14:16:29] <sebastian> docs: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/EggCookingTutorial/BasicEggCooking and http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/PluginDevelopment
[14:16:37] <sebastian> but the big picture is still missing :-(
[14:16:39] <sebastian> that is the problem
[14:16:54] <pacopablo> k
[14:17:03] <pacopablo> first, it doesn't matter what you name your classes
[14:17:22] <pacopablo> the main thing is that they are subclasses of Component
[14:17:58] <pacopablo> second, your plugin will need to implement a few interfaces (otherwise it propbably won't be very useful)
[14:18:08] <pacopablo> what kind of plugin are you trying to make?
[14:18:33] <sebastian> I start with the example
[14:18:36] <sebastian> started*
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[14:19:06] <sebastian> however trac does not load it :-( It is shown in debug log, but not in the "about modules" view
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[14:19:22] <pacopablo> and you enabled it in trac.ini?
[14:19:48] <pacopablo> or did you put it in the plugins dir of your env?
[14:22:05] <sebastian> locally
[14:22:07] <sebastian> yes
[14:22:13] <sebastian> i put it in the plugins dir
[14:22:18] <sebastian> but just as .egg-link
[14:22:44] <pacopablo> that's the name of the file?
[14:23:01] <pacopablo> or did you create a symlink to the .egg ?
[14:24:10] <sebastian> I used " python setup.py develop -md /var/www/trac/plugins/ "
[14:25:02] <pacopablo> that should be fine
[14:25:17] <sebastian> hmm
[14:25:25] <sebastian> so...
[14:25:31] <pacopablo> though, you could try creating the egg an dropping it in there
[14:25:42] <sebastian> can I ask some questions just to make sure I got it correctly...
[14:25:52] <pacopablo> sure
[14:26:35] <sebastian> I have a setup.py - where I define a "name" of the package -- this is displayed in trac, right? but the name does not have to appear in the module itself again?
[14:27:15] <sebastian> then, in the same file, I have a list of "packages" - each "package" is a subdirectory, and inside of each, there needs to be an __init__.py which is executed
[14:27:20] <sebastian> is that correct so far?
[14:28:00] <pacopablo> pretty much
[14:28:29] <s0undt3ch> how can I know which is the top directory for a setuptols project?
[14:28:45] <pacopablo> it doesn't really matter
[14:29:02] <sebastian> okay... and inside the __init__.py we f.e. have the line "from helloworld2 import *" where "helloworld2.py" is a file at the same level as the __init__.py?
[14:29:04] <s0undt3ch> I know the info is on top_level.txt, but how can I read it? withough trying to guess the path?
[14:29:20] <sebastian> does it matter how I name the class inside helloworld2.py?
[14:29:53] <pacopablo> s0undt3ch: sorry, thought you were sebastian :)
[14:29:56] <pacopablo> s0undt3ch: no clue
[14:30:06] <pacopablo> sebastian: no
[14:30:15] <s0undt3ch> heh
[14:30:16] <pacopablo> sebastian: all you have to do is have a line:
[14:30:18] <s0undt3ch> no prob
[14:30:26] <sebastian> pacopablo: it just loads every class inside the file?
[14:30:26] <pacopablo> __all__ = ['MyClassName']
[14:30:40] <pacopablo> sebastian: no, it loads all classes specified in __all__
[14:30:43] <sebastian> ooh, where does that line need to be?
[14:30:44] <sebastian> AAAH
[14:30:49] <sebastian> :-D
[14:30:51] <pacopablo> sebastian: generally at the top
[14:30:56] <sebastian> in which file?
[14:31:03] <pacopablo> helloworld2.py
[14:31:08] <sebastian> okay
[14:31:12] <pacopablo> from foo import *
[14:31:16] <sebastian> hmm that is not listed in any example, right?
[14:31:42] <pacopablo> means from foo.py import all classes listed in __all__
[14:31:57] <pacopablo> sebastian: don't know, it's part of the python docs ;)
[14:32:02] <sebastian> lol
[14:32:04] <sebastian> okay
[14:32:05] <pacopablo> you can still access any class in a file
[14:32:08] <sebastian> oki
[14:32:09] <pacopablo> you jsut have to be explicit about it
[14:32:16] <pacopablo> so: from foo import bar
[14:32:17] <sebastian> hm does not work yet
[14:32:20] <sebastian> but I will try again
[14:32:22] <sebastian> thanks
[14:32:28] <sebastian> that has already helped me!
[14:32:34] <sebastian> okay, one more question...
[14:32:49] <sebastian> concerning the entry points in "setup.py"
[14:33:24] <pacopablo> s0undt3ch: why do you want to know the top level directory of a setuptools project?
[14:33:25] <sebastian> they have the form "foo = blahblah" where "foo" is an identifier used just by setuptools, right?
[14:33:51] <pacopablo> sebastian: this is where I generally fail in my understanding
[14:34:01] <sebastian> what does "blahblah" need to be? the name of the module (== the subdirectory where init resides?)
[14:34:06] <pacopablo> but as far as I understand, the foo should be the package name
[14:34:06] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: well, what I really want to know is which are the packages found for find_packages()
[14:34:25] <pacopablo> s0undt3ch: use the source!
[14:34:26] <s0undt3ch> currently the top_level suites, I normally just make a simgle top level dir
[14:34:55] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: what source? :) pkg_resources source?
[14:35:20] <pacopablo> s0undt3ch: wherever find_packages() is defined ;)
[14:35:52] <s0undt3ch> it's one project, trying to read other project's resources
[14:35:59] <s0undt3ch> not reading it's own
[14:36:16] <s0undt3ch> ie, trying to read an unknown package
[14:37:40] <pacopablo> sebastian: http://trac-hacks.org/browser/siteuploadplugin/0.10
[14:37:49] <pacopablo> that's how I usually layout my projects
[14:38:23] <sebastian> thanks
[14:39:00] <sebastian> what do you need setup.cfg for?
[14:39:13] <pacopablo> you don't
[14:39:28] <pacopablo> but when working from svn it's nice, cus it will tag the egg with the svn rev number
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[14:40:34] <sebastian> ah okay
[14:41:36] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: project.basedir = dist.location
[14:42:05] <s0undt3ch> pacopablo: project.path = os.path.join(project.basedir, file(os.path.join(dist.location,dist.project_name + '.egg-info','top_level.txt')).readline().strip())
[14:42:20] <s0undt3ch> :)
[14:42:21] <pacopablo> fun
[14:43:09] <s0undt3ch> I wonder if there's two top dirs ;)
[14:43:30] <sebastian> hmm.. I found the error - but I dont understand it - the component needed to be enabled still
[14:43:41] <sebastian> I am sure I installed it locally but it still needed to be enabled
[14:43:53] <sebastian> but it it working now
[14:44:04] <sebastian> thanks for your help :-D
[14:44:23] <sebastian> and good night!
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[16:40:11] <matt_good> dilinger: off topic, but how would I go about getting a new package into Debian?
[16:40:51] <coderanger_> I would recommend sending a dev large numbers of non-sequential bills for a start ....
[16:49:57] <dilinger> i like coderanger_'s idea
[16:50:03] <matt_good> heh
[16:50:20] <dilinger> matt_good: email the maintainers w/ a patch? or ask to join the team?
[16:50:46] <matt_good> this is my own app that is not currently in Debian
[16:50:53] <dilinger> ooh
[16:50:58] <dilinger> i thought you meant a new trac package
[16:51:20] <matt_good> no, they seem to keep up with the Trac releases pretty well
[16:54:06] <matt_good> I just fixed up the build depends in pbuilder and lintian doesn't give me anything, so I think it should be ok
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