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February 10, 2007

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[01:58:44] <alect> hmmmm
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[02:17:56] <asmodai> alect: MMMMMMMMM
[02:17:58] <asmodai> alect: Want some tea?
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[03:19:57] <thedude> hello, anyone about?
[03:26:41] <alect> mmm tea
[03:27:04] <thedude> howdy
[03:27:28] <thedude> is this the right channel for 64studio? Or is this for wiki trac?
[03:28:04] <alect> trac
[03:28:11] <thedude> ah, damn
[03:28:13] <thedude> thanks
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[06:26:18] <Blackhex> hello
[06:27:48] <lisppaste5> Blackhex pasted "subversion error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/36662
[06:28:26] <Blackhex> please do you seen this error before? google says nothing
[06:28:45] <Blackhex> using apache+mod_python+trac 10.3
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[06:30:17] <coderanger> @ticket 2611
[06:30:17] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2611
[06:30:46] <coderanger> Its a race condition in Subversion, a fix is listed in the ticket comments
[06:31:18] <Blackhex> so just to apply patch?
[06:32:24] <coderanger> No
[06:32:34] <coderanger> You need to run everything in a single interpreter
[06:32:40] <Blackhex> ok I'll read it
[06:38:35] <coderanger> Whee, finally caught up with trac-hacks RSS feed
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[06:44:36] <Blackhex> :-)
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[06:49:08] <CapNemo> hello folks
[06:49:30] <CapNemo> http://trac.embryo-systems.info/trac/login <-- anyone understand why i have this error ?
[06:50:43] <coderanger> @wiki TracFaq
[06:50:43] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFaq
[06:51:06] <CapNemo> oki thanks
[06:52:11] <CapNemo> ok so my lighttpd doesnt apply my auth settings ..damn
[06:56:01] <Blackhex> coderanger: thx, updating mod_python and setting PythonInterpreter seem to work to me
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[07:19:29] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: arround?
[07:19:36] <coderanger> yeah
[07:20:38] <s0undt3ch> a wild thought, you made start to use jquery, Thanks! now I have something in mind, can I lock the header of a table while I scroll it's rows? :)
[07:20:55] <s0undt3ch> http://i18ntoolbox.ufsoft.org/build/fresh-start/18 <- click the lint tab
[07:21:46] <s0undt3ch> *made me start using
[07:25:43] <coderanger> Hmm, I don't know of a way off hand
[07:25:59] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: the best I saw was http://makoomba.altervista.org/grid/ but that requires loading a XML file trough JSON, possible, but I'd need to generate that, and it doesn't support sorting :(
[07:26:16] <coderanger> You could make the <th> row move as you scroll
[07:26:34] <coderanger> And use the Positioning plugin to match the column widths
[07:26:35] <s0undt3ch> I could!? hmm, how ? :)
[07:26:43] <coderanger> Just have two tables
[07:26:50] <coderanger> the main one and the moving one
[07:27:04] <s0undt3ch> k, I'll have a look at the positioning plug
[07:28:16] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: hmm, got a link to that positioning plug?
[07:28:43] <coderanger> not at the moment
[07:29:07] <s0undt3ch> k, I'll see if I can ffind it
[07:30:54] <coderanger> my desktop had a spaz attack so now I am trying to get it working right again :-/
[07:38:10] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: well, my server did too :| it's down for 2days now, gonna have a look with an "hardware expert" in some hours, since all I can do, I've done without sucess...
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[08:41:03] <Administrator_> hi guys
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[08:42:01] * cboos had a stupid login, sorry - connection from an unusual machine...
[08:42:28] <cboos> anybody seen a sign of life of cmlenz?
[08:43:29] <cboos> alect: around?
[08:53:20] <s0undt3ch> cboos: yeah, I wish I could also talk to cmlenz :\
[08:53:53] <cboos> well, yes, it's been a few weeks I'm waiting for an answer from him on the Wiki context topic ...
[08:54:07] <s0undt3ch> heh, I'm extending bitten :)
[08:54:52] <cboos> I've not yet manage to find enough time to put that into work
[08:55:12] <cboos> I tried once, but the interaction with svn was a bit limitative
[08:55:20] <s0undt3ch> cboos: I now enabled bitten to work with nose, and actually have a pylint report
[08:55:48] <s0undt3ch> cboos: http://i18ntoolbox.ufsoft.org/build/fresh-start
[08:56:03] <cboos> ah, nice!
[08:56:39] <s0undt3ch> yeah, I'm loving it
[08:57:27] <s0undt3ch> but cmlenz really needs to get into it again, but genshi ain't helping there I think :)
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[09:52:35] <rburnes> does anyone know how I may set the 'versions' in a project? I only have the default 1.0 and 2.0 and haven't found anywhere in the documentation that references them
[09:53:54] <rburnes> or rather, a better question... can version's be added from the web interface?
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[10:41:19] <ekim\> Hi
[10:42:12] <ekim\> can someoneone help me out
[10:42:24] <ekim\> How do I start trac with tracd
[10:42:27] <ekim\> it keeps erroring
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[11:00:08] <mDuff> If I want to be able to implement legacy Bugzilla links as [Bugzilla:123 my description here], would I implement an IWikiSyntaxProvider, or is there something more appropriate?
[11:00:27] <mDuff> (A pointer at some comparable sample code would be appreciated, btw -- this is my first trac plugin)
[11:02:30] * mDuff is probably going to just do a macro at first -- the Right Way to implement one of those is more obvious.
[11:03:02] <mDuff> (there are existing plugins for bugzilla links, but they look like they're for use in using bugzilla in place of Trac's issue-tracking support, rather than alongside it for legacy links/issues only)
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[12:07:00] <coderanger> ekim\: Saying what the error is would be helpful if you want someone to help you ...
[12:07:28] <coderanger> mDuff: Look at the InterWiki links stuff
[12:07:45] <coderanger> You can just declare an interwiki link type for "bugzilla"
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[12:34:16] <oblio> hola
[12:34:28] <oblio> i'm looking for some install help
[12:35:23] <oblio> as far as i know - i've run through everything properly... i had to build the env from scratch. subversion has been built against swig, swig is pointed to my pythong, all of swigs checks check out - but then when i load up and point to trac for the first time
[12:35:27] <oblio> i get a traceback: TracError: Unsupported version control system "svn"
[12:36:07] <oblio> my svn repo is basically untouched - all i've done is is svnadmin create, svnadmin verify
[12:36:10] <oblio> and it verifys ok
[12:36:24] <oblio> and apache points to the correct trac project points to the correct repo
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[12:52:20] <thrushaax> sounds like python doesn't know that svn exists
[12:52:50] <thrushaax> does anyone know if the trac wiki link format changed, looks like [name] doesn't automatically convert to a wiki link anymore
[12:52:58] <thrushaax> need to instead do [wiki:name]
[12:54:14] <thrushaax> oh, they did, great...
[12:55:05] <Demian> hi
[12:57:41] <coderanger> oblio: python -c 'from svn import fs'
[12:59:27] <coderanger> thrushaax: The syntax was removed because it would be too difficult to work with long-term
[12:59:49] <coderanger> thrushaax: You can also do ["name"] I think
[13:03:48] <oblio> coderanger: pretty straight forward - ImportError: No module named svn
[13:03:58] <oblio> coderanger: that's from swig, right?
[13:04:06] <coderanger> oblio: Did you set up the link for the modules?
[13:05:49] <oblio> (checking)
[13:05:56] <oblio> also i just discovered this wonderufl page
[13:05:58] <oblio> *wonderful
[13:06:00] <oblio> ~http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracSubversion
[13:06:25] <coderanger> echo "/usr/lib/svn-python" >>/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/subversion.pth
[13:06:32] <coderanger> or something similar
[13:08:13] <oblio> bingo
[13:08:14] <oblio> thank you sir
[13:08:19] <oblio> now im off to my next error
[13:08:19] <oblio> :-)
[13:08:25] <oblio> same problem
[13:08:33] <oblio> looks like i have to do that for clearsilver too
[13:08:38] <oblio> im surprised this isn't done for me?
[13:08:52] <coderanger> clearsilver should install the modules correctly
[13:08:55] <oblio> when im building clearsilver python bindings, and its basing it off of my python distribution
[13:09:00] <oblio> well i'm using all non-standard paths
[13:09:01] <coderanger> Subversion is just weird about that
[13:09:02] <oblio> which doesn't help
[13:09:04] <coderanger> ahh
[13:09:08] <coderanger> Well that would do it ;-)
[13:09:20] <oblio> well - i would think python would have apxs type magic
[13:09:32] <coderanger> It normally would
[13:09:40] <coderanger> unless you request a different path
[13:10:01] <oblio> weird.
[13:10:02] <oblio> ./python2.5/site-packages/trac/web/clearsilver.py
[13:10:03] <oblio> it's there
[13:10:05] <oblio> ?
[13:10:06] <oblio> or no it's not
[13:10:11] <oblio> ill stop thinking aloud
[13:10:12] <oblio> bbiam
[13:10:24] <coderanger> Thats different
[13:10:32] <oblio> ha ha ha ha
[13:10:34] <coderanger> thats the Trac interface to clearsilver
[13:10:41] <oblio> --with-python=/opt/eqapp/software/bin/pythong
[13:10:44] <oblio> i always typo that :-)
[13:11:02] <coderanger> It seems like a lot of people do
[13:11:07] <coderanger> I've yet to figure out why
[13:11:10] <oblio> uh
[13:11:11] <oblio> head in the futter
[13:11:13] <oblio> gutter ?
[13:11:21] <oblio> i always like thinking about thongs more than python
[13:11:28] <oblio> it's a mighty powerful force
[13:12:07] <oblio> yaya i got a trac page
[13:12:13] <oblio> beautiful
[13:12:14] <coderanger> More likely that "ong" as a word ending is more common that "on"
[13:12:15] * oblio kisses the world.
[13:12:23] <coderanger> Don't forget to check out trac-hacks
[13:12:25] <oblio> for me it's specifically the thong thing
[13:13:04] <oblio> lookin
[13:13:19] <coderanger> Lots of good plugins and such
[13:13:24] <coderanger> also webadmin
[13:13:34] <oblio> yeah im pretty interested in building out hooks to certain types of ticket creation
[13:13:44] <oblio> to have trac go and do stuff for me
[13:14:50] <oblio> oh also
[13:14:51] <oblio> do you know
[13:15:00] <oblio> is there any route for doing a sqlite->postgres migration? or am i smoking crack.
[13:16:24] <oblio> i already have mysql on this box - dont really want to run postgres as well - and anything more than sqlite seems like over kill. but if i want to do integration later w/ some stuff, it sketches me out. mysql being experimental, and well, sqlite basically being an indexed flatfile.
[13:18:32] <coderanger> oblio: SqliteToPostgres script
[13:18:34] <coderanger> on trac-hacks
[13:18:53] <coderanger> And SQLite is waaaay more than an indexed flat file
[13:19:22] <oblio> haha
[13:19:23] <coderanger> Currently I believe it stores relations as weighted B trees
[13:19:27] <oblio> sorry for cheapening it
[13:19:36] <oblio> i was just trying to emphasise that it's not tied to a tcp port
[13:19:43] <oblio> emphasize, one of those
[13:19:50] <coderanger> Neither should postgres ;-)
[13:19:57] <oblio> oh yeah for sure
[13:20:00] <oblio> i prefer postgres ot mysql
[13:20:09] <coderanger> but yes, there is an automated converter
[13:20:11] <oblio> nice
[13:20:14] <oblio> that's awesome
[13:20:40] <oblio> im probably going to hook up calendar at least on trackhacks
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[13:55:49] <s0undt3ch> ppl, where is usually located the global trac.ini?
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[13:57:43] <veracon_> When running tracd, I get a TracError: ClearSilver not installed (/home/veracon/.python-eggs/clearsilver-0.10.1-py2.4-linux-i686.egg-tmp/neo_cgi.so: undefined symbol: NERR_PARSE)
[13:57:46] <veracon_> ClearSilver IS indeed installed
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[14:00:18] <veracon_> Anyone have an idea?
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[14:03:32] <coderanger> veracon_: It isn't compiled correctly
[14:03:39] <coderanger> or it is missing a dynamic link
[14:03:44] <coderanger> run ldd on that file
[14:03:46] <veracon_> coderanger, hm, I just did an easy_install ClearSilver
[14:04:11] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: /usr/share/trac/conf/trac.ini
[14:04:31] <veracon_> $ ldd neo_cgi.so
[14:04:31] <veracon_> linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000)
[14:04:31] <veracon_> libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7f13000)
[14:04:31] <veracon_> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7f00000)
[14:04:32] <veracon_> libc.so.6 => /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7dcc000)
[14:04:32] <veracon_> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x80000000)
[14:04:34] <veracon_> er, sorry
[14:04:41] <coderanger> veracon_: Go through that list
[14:04:45] <coderanger> find a missing file
[14:05:18] <veracon_> Appears I don't have linux-gate (did a locate which has been updated very recently)
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[14:06:01] <coderanger> That shouldn't exist
[14:06:04] <veracon_> Searched: You can confidently tell users on this futile quest that there's not supposed to be a linux-gate.so.1 file present anywhere on the file system;
[14:06:05] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: that's whats strange, I have no such file, and yet, for a newly created env some of the options are set from the global trac.ini, which I can't seem to find where it is
[14:06:10] <veracon_> Ah
[14:06:12] <coderanger> its a kernel extension DSO
[14:06:34] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: It means they have no default value
[14:06:37] <coderanger> usually anyway
[14:06:43] <veracon_> In that case I have them all
[14:07:01] <coderanger> veracon_: python -c 'import neo_cgi'
[14:07:01] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: # htdigest_realm = <set in global trac.ini>
[14:07:07] <s0undt3ch> that means no default value?
[14:07:09] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: Yep
[14:07:17] <s0undt3ch> ah, heh
[14:07:22] <veracon_> same error, undefined symbol: NERR_PARSE
[14:07:27] <s0undt3ch> I'll create my global trac.ini then
[14:08:04] <coderanger> veracon_: I would try building it correctly before spending much time debugging it
[14:08:14] <veracon_> Define 'correctly' :)
[14:08:28] <veracon_> ./configure-style compilation?
[14:09:06] <coderanger> Not building it as an egg for starters
[14:09:13] <coderanger> But yes, the normal way
[14:09:29] <veracon_> Will try that, thanks
[14:10:39] <coderanger> Another user seems to have had a similar issue last year because of building CS as an egg
[14:10:42] <coderanger> so yeah
[14:11:02] <coderanger> pacopablo: Psst, you should finish the log searcher ;-)
[14:12:17] <veracon_> Yeah, I just found that log, too
[14:17:11] <veracon_> Hummm, `make' of ClearSilver chokes while installing the Ruby bindings
[14:17:48] <coderanger> Only enable the python ones
[14:18:29] <veracon_> So...
[14:18:35] <veracon_> ./configure --disable-ruby --disable-perl
[14:18:50] <veracon_> and java and csharp
[14:18:51] <veracon_> ... and apache
[14:19:19] <coderanger> Pretty much
[14:19:22] <veracon_> Will try.
[14:19:37] <coderanger> Now you see why we are dropping clearsilver ;-)
[14:20:25] <veracon_> Hah, indeed
[14:20:56] <veracon_> Now it's apparently installed... but no neo_cgi
[14:21:32] <coderanger> Did you --enable-python=/usr/bin/python
[14:21:33] <coderanger> ?
[14:21:41] <veracon_> *retries*
[14:22:19] <coderanger> assuming thats where your python is of course
[14:22:20] <veracon_> You mean --with-python?
[14:22:27] <veracon_> Oh wait
[14:22:32] <veracon_> Sorry, read the wrong line of INSTALL
[14:24:09] <veracon_> no go =/
[14:24:29] <veracon_> But...
[14:24:36] <veracon_> /usr/bin/install -c neo_cgi.so /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/site-packages
[14:24:40] <veracon_> isn't there one site-packages too much?
[14:25:17] <veracon_> Incredibly, copying it there seems to work
[14:25:26] <veracon_> neo_cgi imports without exceptions being thrown
[14:25:26] <coderanger> that seems a little odd
[14:26:08] <veracon_> And tracd "works"
[14:26:18] <veracon_> TracError: Unsupported version control system "svn"
[14:26:19] <veracon_> Oh c'mon
[14:26:28] <coderanger> python -c 'from svn import fs'
[14:26:55] <veracon_> I guess I don't have the Python SVN bindings
[14:27:06] <coderanger> @wiki TracSubversion
[14:27:06] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracSubversion
[14:30:04] <veracon_> Okay, installed the Python SVN bindings
[14:30:15] <veracon_> Though I was lazy and did it through apt.
[14:30:45] <veracon_> And for the first time I'm seeing a successful installation. Thanks heaps-
[14:37:25] <veracon_> Can I get Trac to highlight Python source? (Or should I just manually modify the code?)
[14:38:14] <coderanger> @wiki TracSyntaxColoring
[14:38:14] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracSyntaxColoring
[14:45:21] <veracon_> That was relatively painless. Thanks.
[14:54:27] <synic> http://exaile.org/trac/timeline <-- can anyone help me here? I have two "wiki changes" checkboxes on there, and any wiki changes show up on the timeline twice
[14:54:42] <synic> unchecking one of the checkboxes has no effect (I didn't think it would)
[14:55:28] <coderanger> synic: Do you have Tags installed?
[14:55:33] <coderanger> or the TinyMCE plugin
[14:55:50] <synic> I do have tags (I think it's a dep of something else)
[14:56:21] <coderanger> Make sure the default wikimodule is disabled
[14:56:41] <synic> is that done in trac.ini?
[14:56:55] <coderanger> yes
[14:56:58] <coderanger> [components]
[14:56:59] <synic> k
[14:57:09] <coderanger> trac.wiki.web_ui.WikiModule = disabled
[14:57:14] <coderanger> then restart the Trac
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[14:57:58] <synic> ok
[14:59:03] <synic> awesome. Thanks.
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[15:09:41] * Caitriona is looking for a wiki page move function but not finding on.
[15:09:43] <Caitriona> one
[15:12:47] <coderanger> WikiRename plugin on trac-hacks
[15:13:41] <Caitriona> thanks
[15:14:52] <mDuff> coderanger: Thanks for the heads up -- looks like I was pretty much about to redevelop the GeneralLinkSyntaxPlugin.
[15:15:01] <coderanger> mDuff: You don't even need that
[15:15:08] <mDuff> coderanger: yes, I found InterMapTxt
[15:15:13] <coderanger> Heh, okay
[15:15:26] <coderanger> A lot of people get confused by the name
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[15:22:05] <redir> hello trac
[15:22:40] <redir> anyone tell me were the functions from trac.Search went?
[15:23:07] <coderanger> Which ones?
[15:23:23] <redir> specifically search_terms
[15:24:14] <coderanger> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/search/web_ui.py#L168
[15:24:41] <coderanger> Why would you need that
[15:25:20] <redir> I am working on bringing the XML-RPC Plugin up to date
[15:25:40] <redir> and the performSearch function is broken
[15:26:14] <redir> from trac.Search import search_terms << doesn't work anymore
[15:26:45] <redir> and I can't import _get_search_terms
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[15:33:10] <mDuff> hmm -- there's something odd here with my (FastCGI-based) Apache configuration -- I'm sometimes getting a different trac instance than the one indicated by the URL my browser is requesting.
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[15:33:52] <mDuff> I'm using "ScriptAliasMatch /([^/.]+)/trac(/(.*))? /var/www/localhost/cgi-bin/trac.$1.fcgi/$3", and letting the .fcgi scripts specify their TRAC_ENV variable. Is this too clever for my own good somehow?
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[15:45:45] <coderanger> redir: Its an object function
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[15:46:21] * mDuff tries switching out to separate ScriptAliasMatch statements... which doesn't resolve the issue.
[15:46:58] <mDuff> Bizarre; whichever trac instance I first access after restarting Apache is the one that's used even when I'm trying to access other instances.
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[15:47:32] <coderanger> mDuff: What are you trying to do?
[15:48:08] <mDuff> coderanger: Host several different trac instances on the same box using FastCGI and Apache 2.2.
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[15:48:44] <coderanger> Usually thats done with TRAV_ENV_PARENT_DIR
[15:49:10] <mDuff> Ahh; I'm just using TRAC_ENV (and setting it in differently between separate .fcgi scripts)
[15:49:18] <mDuff> I'll try going that route instead.
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[15:49:51] <coderanger> If you want to do weird stuff with matching you are probably better off with mod_python anyway
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