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<otaku42> |
moin |
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<alect> |
lo otaku |
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<TinoW> |
hello :-) |
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<alect> |
hi |
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<mst> |
if I've upgraded a trac to 0.10 |
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<mst> |
I can't get it to a state where I can run it under 0.8 or 0.9 easily, can I? |
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<alect> |
no |
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<alect> |
well |
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<alect> |
it depends |
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<Datax> |
hi all |
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<alect> |
if you're using sqlite, trac makes a backup of the db before upgrading |
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<alect> |
in <env>/db |
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<mst> |
what I want is a downgrade that preserves the data |
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<Datax> |
i've installed trac for people at work but they don't know anything about linux so letting them manage their own permissions is messy. Is there a web interface available ? |
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<mst> |
ideally |
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<alect> |
so the trac db backups would be sufficient |
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<alect> |
datax: linux permissions or trac permissions? trac permissions can be manabed with webadmin, but they have nothing to do with linux |
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<mst> |
alect: no, that includes the accumulated data since the upgrade |
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<Datax> |
alect: well for now i have to modify rights with the trac-admin command |
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<Datax> |
i didn't know of webadmin's existance |
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<Datax> |
which i guess is a web interface with a name like that :p |
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<alect> |
mst: aah, i understand |
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<alect> |
mst: you're screwed |
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<mst> |
that's what I suspected |
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<mst> |
I just figured it was worth letting this channel confirm it :) |
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<mst> |
alect: thanks very much nonetheless |
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<kop_> |
Datax: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin |
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<Datax> |
kop_: i'm reading it now, thanks :) |
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<alect> |
there is amigration script on th |
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<Datax> |
kop_: i've installed webadmin and can now manage permissions via the web interface but how can i create new users with it ? users that can authentify via the .htpasswd file |
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<Datax> |
anyone else ? :p |
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<Datax> |
what i need is to also be able to create new users in the .htpasswd file that is used to authenticate users |
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<alect> |
@th AccountManagerPlugin |
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<evil_twin> |
alect: Error: "th" is not a valid command. |
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<alect> |
datax: you want that plugin |
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<alect> |
probably |
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<alect> |
it lets users register their own accounts |
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<alect> |
which get added to the htpasswd file |
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<Datax> |
mmhhh i'll have a look at it thxs |
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<otaku42> |
alect: thanks for the hint, will look at that script |
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<the_lalelu> |
remoep! |
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<Datax> |
i'm currently using htpasswd authentification and have a problem. when i click on logout i don't then get prompted for a user/password when i click on login, i just relog as the user i was intially logged on with |
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<Datax> |
is there anyway of changing that ? |
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<Datax> |
it's useful to be able to change user to test permissions etc |
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<Blackhex> |
hello all |
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<Datax> |
hi |
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<kop_> |
Datax: use MSIE :-) |
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<Datax> |
kop_: what ? u mean that it's a firefox issue .. :s |
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<kop_> |
Datax: sorry to tell you, but in fact MSIE is the only browser that allows you to fully "log out" |
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<Datax> |
kop_: just tried it didn't work |
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<Datax> |
i don't get prompted to log back in |
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<Datax> |
i'm using ie7 |
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<kop_> |
what version of trac? |
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<Datax> |
0.10.3 |
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<Datax> |
with TracAccountManager 0.1.3dev-r1844 |
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<Datax> |
and TracWebAdmin 0.1.2dev-r4240 |
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<Datax> |
thats all |
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<kop_> |
http://www.trac-hacks.org/wiki/TrueHttpLogoutPatch |
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<Datax> |
i've just tested with ie6 and i have the same problem |
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<kop_> |
in IE you can use a function in javascript called clearauthenticationcache() |
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<Blackhex> |
I can't loaad t-h-o |
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<kop_> |
no it appears dead ATM :-( |
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<Datax> |
i'll check google cache :) |
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<kop_> |
sadly, to recreate the functionality in other browsers you have to hack around it |
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<Datax> |
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:xy4jZf-t_VIJ:www.trac-hacks.org/wiki/TrueHttpLogoutPatch+TrueHttpLogoutPatch&hl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=fr |
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<Datax> |
:) |
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<Datax> |
kop_: does this patch work when using an apache server because i'm not certain of what the author meant when he wrote : This patch works for tracd standalone. There's no need of Apache or any other server. |
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<kop_> |
http://rafb.net/p/Q4PmlY69.html |
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<Datax> |
i'll just back it up and give it a go |
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<TinoW> |
I use the cookie based login |
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<TinoW> |
so logout isnt a problem |
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<Datax> |
TinoW: how do you handle users ? i wanted htpasswd type access because thats what seemed simplest to be able to add users via a web interface and manage their permissions |
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<TinoW> |
Datax: I have them in the postgres database which trac uses |
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<Datax> |
ah :) |
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<Datax> |
i'm new to trac so i don't yet know what its full potential is :) |
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<TinoW> |
Datax: I also hacked the config and schema a bit around so I have one schema in the database per trac environment but replaced a few tables (session_data) with views to common user tables in the public schema |
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<TinoW> |
and I'm using the same auth data with the respective svn repositories |
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<Datax> |
i use the .htpasswd file to give permission to the svn repositories |
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<cboos> |
hi guys |
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<Datax> |
hi |
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<alect> |
hey cboos |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Is trac-hacks up? |
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<Datax> |
no |
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<Datax> |
seems not ^^ |
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<coderanger> |
I can't ssh in either |
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<cboos> |
hm, just wanted to mention that trac-hacks is down... but apparently you know about it ;) |
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<cboos> |
you might be interested to know that it this happened right in the middle of a commit of mine |
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<coderanger> |
cboos: Great minds think alike :) |
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<cboos> |
the commit log of r1955 was: "Fixes #1201" |
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<cboos> |
and the commit took minutes to actually complete |
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<cboos> |
so this *might* have something to do with the post-commit-hook, db lock and what not ... |
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<cboos> |
... or it's just a coincidence, bad luck |
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<coderanger> |
cboos: SSH isn't responding either |
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<Datax> |
sounds like a crashed box :s |
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<coderanger> |
cboos: Plus Postgres shouldn't need a single-writer lock anyway |
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<alect> |
it's the other vserver |
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<alect> |
trying to login now |
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<alect> |
sloooooowwwwwwww |
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<cboos> |
top? |
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<coderanger> |
alect: Watermarking again? ;-) |
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<alect> |
heh |
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<alect> |
no, he released some software called pycallgraph |
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<alect> |
and then spammed every site he could find |
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<alect> |
so slow |
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<jmut> |
howdy there. got simple question on tractwiki. I am trying to create TOC. how could that be easily accomplished? |
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<alect> |
[[PageOutline]] |
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<jmut> |
alect: headshot :) |
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<jmut> |
alect: thanks a lot |
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<alect> |
heh |
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<jodok> |
http://www.trac-hacks.org/ down? |
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<coderanger> |
jodok: Working on it |
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<alect> |
slowly |
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<jodok> |
coderanger: ta |
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<alect> |
top didn't respond within 10 minutes |
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<Datax> |
kop_: i've installed the patch and it's now possible to logout with ie ;) |
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<Datax> |
but it doesn't work with firefox (tough luck) |
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<coderanger> |
Datax: If you want logouts, use AccountManager |
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<Datax> |
coderanger: i am doing ! |
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<coderanger> |
Datax: Then what patch are you talking about? |
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<Datax> |
the one the logs you out correctly ;) |
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<coderanger> |
You don't need that with accountmanager |
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<coderanger> |
And accountmanager is a plugin, not a patch |
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<Datax> |
well it wasn't working before |
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<coderanger> |
did you enable form-based logins? |
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<Datax> |
no htpasswd based |
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<coderanger> |
[components] |
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<coderanger> |
trac.web.auth.LoginModule = disabled |
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<Datax> |
i'll check |
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<coderanger> |
acct_mgr.* = enabled |
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<coderanger> |
You should get a web form when you try to login, not an HTTP auth popup |
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<Datax> |
but where does it store the users and passwords ? |
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<coderanger> |
Where ever you tell it to |
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<Datax> |
in htpasswd format ? |
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<coderanger> |
read the wiki page, it goes into detail on the configuration |
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<Datax> |
ok |
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<coderanger> |
htpasswd is an option, yes |
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<Datax> |
coderanger: i've just pasted u my components section |
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<coderanger> |
lisppaste5: url |
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<lisppaste5> |
To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste. |
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<lisppaste5> |
Datax pasted "components" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/36754 |
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<coderanger> |
replace all those acct_mgr entries with acct_mgr.* = enabled |
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<lisppaste5> |
coderanger annotated #36754 with "components" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/36754#1 |
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<alect> |
ok, she's on her way back up |
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<alect> |
probably |
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<Datax> |
coderanger: i don't have any login prompt at all now i can't access the admin part of trac |
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<coderanger> |
Datax: Did you restart the trac after changing the trac.ini? |
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<Datax> |
yes |
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<Datax> |
apache reload |
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<coderanger> |
Do you see acct_mgr loading in the log? |
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<Datax> |
i'll check |
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<alect> |
ok. working |
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<Datax> |
coderanger: can't find a log that contains that sort of info :s |
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<coderanger> |
@logging |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors. |
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<Datax> |
coderanger: i can't get anything to output to the logs (log file or syslog) |
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<Datax> |
and it isn't a permission issue |
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<coderanger> |
Then something is very wrong with your install |
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<coderanger> |
check for selinux or a chroot |
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<Datax> |
it's a debian packaged installation |
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<Datax> |
of trac |
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<coderanger> |
What version? |
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<Datax> |
0.10.3 |
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<coderanger> |
pastebin your trac.ini |
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<Datax> |
ok |
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<lisppaste5> |
Datax pasted "trac.ini" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/36755 |
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<cboos> |
alect: what happened with trac-hacks? anything relevant in the logs? |
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<alect> |
like i said, it was the other vserver |
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<alect> |
nothing to do with th at all |
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<alect> |
linux vserver, that is, not apache vserver |
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<coderanger> |
Datax: 1) You didn't remove those entries from [components] you should do that |
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<coderanger> |
Datax: 2) Set log_file = trac.log |
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<Datax> |
i tried that but i'll try again |
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<coderanger> |
Datax: 3) Try giving a full path the to htpasswd file |
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<Datax> |
success we have a log file ;) |
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<cboos> |
alect: oh ok, now I get it... Looks like misc was right yesterday evening ;) |
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<lisppaste5> |
Datax pasted "trac.log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/36756 |
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<alect> |
about what? |
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<cboos> |
about the need to explain me things twice ;) |
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<alect> |
ah, heh |
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<coderanger> |
Datax: With all 3 of those changes do you still get nothing on login? |
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<Datax> |
i don't have a logon option |
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<coderanger> |
Datax: And did you disable authentication at the server |
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<Datax> |
in the apache config ? |
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<coderanger> |
yes |
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<Datax> |
no |
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<Datax> |
i'll change that |
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<Datax> |
still no logon link on trac |
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<coderanger> |
Datax: Typo in you trac.ini |
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<coderanger> |
acct_mgr not acct_mrg |
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<Datax> |
argg thxs |
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<Datax> |
GREAT :) |
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<Datax> |
its perfect thxs |
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<Datax> |
i'm off, thanks again for the help :) |
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<verm__> |
cboos: around? |
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<verm__> |
cboos: tocmacro is broken, but in another way now |
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<verm__> |
oh, hmm |
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<verm__> |
doh nevermind i see, my trac was out dated i need to pay more attention :) |
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<verm__> |
thanks it works great |
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<verm__> |
! |
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<pacopablo> |
morning |
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<coderanger_> |
g'morn |
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<rjdave_> |
is there a way to make certain links in the trac wiki to open in a new window? |
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<bsm> |
hi eveyone, |
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<bsm> |
a couple of very basic questions |
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<bsm> |
how do I setup a trac enviroment in trac 0.11 on windows? |
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<bsm> |
I cannot find the command (i.e. script) named trac-admin |
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<bsm> |
any hint |
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<kopernikus> |
bsm, the easiest way is to go into your checked out/downloaded trac (where the README file is) and run "python scripst/trac-admin C:\\myenv" or some other path |
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<_bsm> |
thanks I will check it now |
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<kopernikus> |
or if you have installed 0.11 in your python site-packages, trac-admin and tracd should be in the Scripts folder in your python installation directory |
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<kopernikus> |
either add the Scripts directory to %PATH% or type the full path to trac-admin on the command line |
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<_bsm> |
well that's my initial problem, there is no folder scripts in site-packages/trac |
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<_bsm> |
but i have found it in working folder where I checkouted trac 0.11 |
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<kopernikus> |
its in c:\program files\python2.4\Scripts or wherever your python is |
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<_bsm> |
kopernikus: in my c:\Python25\Lib\site-packages\trac\ there is no folder scripts |
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<kopernikus> |
I didn't say so... |
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<_bsm> |
sorry than i did not understan |
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<kopernikus> |
I wrote its in c:\python25\Scrips |
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<kopernikus> |
s/Scrips/Scripts/ |
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<_bsm> |
koprenikus, yes you're right, I overlook that folder |
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<_bsm> |
there are scripts I need |
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<_bsm> |
thanks a lot |
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<rjdave_> |
is there a way to make certain links in the trac wiki to open in a new window? |
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<oblio_> |
sup sup |
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<oblio_> |
does anyone have any input as far as setting "subcategories" in trac? |
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<oblio_> |
is there discussion about this? am i going outside the bounds of the intention of a minimal approach? |
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<pacopablo> |
oblio_: currenty, yes, though once workflow is done, this will be doable |
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<oblio_> |
i don't think i understand |
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<oblio_> |
which workflow? what will be doable? |
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<oblio_> |
currently there is discussion? |
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<pacopablo> |
currently, you can't set "subcategories" |
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<oblio_> |
but there is the concept of a parent category? |
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<oblio_> |
which is being implemented? |
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<pacopablo> |
there is work being done to implement flexible ticket workflow, generally referred to as simply "workflow" |
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<pacopablo> |
this will allow one to create a plugin that provides the feature of "subcategories" |
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<pacopablo> |
and will proabaly be a stock plugin, but who knows |
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<oblio_> |
gotcha |
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<oblio_> |
nice |
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<oblio_> |
who is working on it? is there a project page? |
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<pacopablo> |
alect: was the one originaly working on it |
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<pacopablo> |
it's been kind of stalled the past little bit |
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<pacopablo> |
but it's on ly agenda for the sprints at pycon |
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<ndru1234> |
hello! can someone recommend a bug submission/software development site that i can use? something like trac but that does not have to be hosted on my side?? |
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<pygi> |
ndru1234, trac also doesn't have to be hosted on your side |
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<pygi> |
just use some provider |
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<pygi> |
sec |
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<pygi> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/CommercialServices |
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<ndru1234> |
pygi: oh... lemme check it out |
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<GRiD> |
hi. i thought this would be common but i can't seem to find it.. can i add/change which file extensions trac tries to highlight, as php for example, in the browser? |
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<ndru1234> |
pygi: yep, found one that works! thx for the hint! :) |
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<pygi> |
ndru1234, which one? :) |
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<ndru1234> |
pygi: openSVN seems to be working fine :) |
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<pygi> |
ah :P |
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<Silversys> |
is the trac website unavaila |
