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February 13, 2007

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[00:45:00] <webdev> hi everyone
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[00:53:47] <Macca> otaku42 which ?
[00:58:36] <webdev> Up to now we used mediawiki and csv... We wanna switch to subversion for future projects and we need a new wiki. But I don't know if trac is the right one...
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[00:59:17] <webdev> We'll use it for several projects and kind of a knowledgebase
[00:59:39] <webdev> I also wanna attach files
[01:00:49] <otaku42> Macca: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TicketDeletePlugin
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[01:29:09] <arooni> hey folks......... cna i browser source for more than one svn project?
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[02:19:53] <Macca> how do i make trac highlight c# source ?
[02:21:21] <alect> pygments plugin perhaps
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[02:35:07] <alect> hi
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[02:38:29] <asmodai> alect: Hey dude. :)
[02:38:31] <asmodai> alect: How's tricks?
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[02:43:36] <alect> not too bad :)
[02:43:37] <alect> you?
[02:43:44] <alect> i am discovering the joys of ctypes
[02:43:59] <alect> and it reenforces my desire to not use C ever again ;)
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[02:57:03] <asmodai> alect: hahaha
[02:57:16] <asmodai> alect: Trying to get GET requests working as I want them for this small Django thinghy at work
[02:59:39] <alect> thought you were rolling your own web thingy?
[03:01:03] <asmodai> alect: That's another project
[03:01:14] <asmodai> My personal one. This is something for work
[03:01:20] <alect> aah
[03:03:00] <asmodai> Django is nice, but it can at times also frustrate you by wanting things in its specific dispatch setup :S
[03:03:42] <alect> yeah
[03:03:57] <alect> i'm not a big fan of the orm either
[03:04:13] <asmodai> in this case the URL handling
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[03:12:48] <asmodai> alect: It's evil actually
[03:13:09] <asmodai> alect: It's a system they use here that will upload (!) full-text papers and theses to our publication system
[03:13:23] <asmodai> alect: And what kind of URL build up does it use? GET /metis/108069&userid=AMULLER HTTP/1.1
[03:13:33] <asmodai> alect: Bleepin' GET requests.
[03:13:58] <alect> to upload?
[03:15:06] <asmodai> alect: *nods sadly*
[03:15:17] <alect> i didn't even know that was possible
[03:15:21] <alect> impressive!
[03:15:22] <asmodai> Neither did I.
[03:15:42] <asmodai> And of course nobody can provide specs, so I am reverse engineering stuff based on httpd logfiles.
[03:16:55] <asmodai> Unless it does some awkward GET thing first before a POST
[03:18:30] <asmodai> Did you need to restart apache with mod_python when you make changes?
[03:20:27] <asmodai> ah no
[03:23:17] <Macca> alect tried pygments
[03:23:19] <Macca> didn't helpo :(
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[03:29:06] * TinoW has fun w/ the python-svn bindings
[03:30:06] <TinoW> well. "fun"
[03:30:07] <TinoW> ;)
[03:32:11] <asmodai> alect: of course, it can be done if it is some sort of form redirecting to my URL
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[03:52:38] <TinoW> asmodai: they use GET with an entidy body? *disbelief*
[03:53:58] <asmodai> TinoW: I have no clue to be honest. All my requests for information are lost...
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[05:16:33] <davidjrice> hey
[05:19:20] <davidjrice> can anyone answer a question about the trac dev release (from svn)
[05:19:37] <alect> perhaps
[05:19:44] <alect> we will never know until you ask it
[05:22:07] <davidjrice> is there a "safe" version of the dev release? like is anyone running dev successfully?
[05:22:41] <davidjrice> there are a couple of errors when I try and run trac-admin (one second I will find the associated ticket again)
[05:25:26] <alect> it's pot luck really
[05:27:11] <davidjrice> the error is generally related to "No module named pkg_resources"
[05:28:56] <davidjrice> http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4073
[05:29:27] <davidjrice> is it perhaps a problem with a missing copy of setuptools on the server?
[05:32:33] <alect> setuptools is required, so probably
[05:43:06] <davidjrice> okay i've installed setuptools, restarted tracd but the server is not responding. looking at top i can see tracd using 99% of the resources
[06:00:44] <davidjrice> i've deleted the project environment, and trying to run trac-admin initenv to create another
[06:01:04] <davidjrice> trac-admin launches okay, but it quickly ramps up to consume all of the cpu
[06:01:41] <davidjrice> whenever i've finished enter the config. It stays at 99.9% cpu and 93% mem until it's reaped by the server
[06:10:41] <TinoW> davidjrice: can you see by means of strace, pdb, ... where its stuck?
[06:16:19] <davidjrice> ah okay I don't think pysqlite2 was installed properly
[06:17:37] <davidjrice> attempting a reinstall, of that dependency and am getting the error "In file included from src/module.c:24:
[06:17:37] <davidjrice> src/connection.h:26:20: error: Python.h: No such file or directory"
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[06:48:32] <coderanger> davidjrice: You need the python headers
[06:48:45] <coderanger> possibly in a python-dev or python-devel package
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[06:57:39] <davidjrice> coderanger: you're right
[06:57:50] <davidjrice> the current rpm was just python-2.4.3-8.FC4
[06:58:19] <coderanger> I will never understand why the RPM and deb folks split that stuff
[06:58:45] <davidjrice> I just installed the right rpm.... python-devel-2.4.3-8.FC4
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[07:17:28] <davidjrice> okay i've got a dev version running and can launch the server
[07:17:51] <davidjrice> i've installed swig-py but i'm getting this error from trac " Check that the Python bindings for "svn" are correctly installed."
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[07:19:25] <coderanger> python -c 'from svn import fs'
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[07:26:42] <davidjrice> coderanger: ImportError: libsvn_swig_py-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:27:07] <coderanger> so the swig bindings aren't installed correctly
[07:28:53] <davidjrice> strange... everything seemed to complete successfully
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[08:38:55] <davidjrice> hey i'm still getting ImportError: libsvn_swig_py-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file
[08:39:21] <davidjrice> but the files are installed in /usr/local/lib
[08:41:34] <coderanger> davidjrice: RH usually doesn't including that in the dynamic linker paths
[08:41:35] <coderanger> one sec
[08:42:53] <coderanger> Check /etc/ld.so.conf
[08:44:21] <coderanger> if it isn't there, add it and run ldconfig
[08:44:37] <davidjrice> coderanger: i'm not sure what I should be seeing
[08:44:39] <davidjrice> http://pastie.caboo.se/40014
[08:44:49] <davidjrice> that's what it looks like presently
[08:44:55] <coderanger> hmm, that should be okay
[08:45:07] <coderanger> Have you disabled selinux?
[08:45:28] <davidjrice> no, I'm not sure what that is
[08:45:41] <coderanger> run sestatus
[08:47:19] <davidjrice> disabled
[08:47:38] <coderanger> hrmm
[08:49:09] <coderanger> thats about all I know to check
[08:49:14] <coderanger> you can try asking in #svn
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[09:05:34] <davidjrice> okay not sure if anyone in #svn #fedora or #python know what might be the problem
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[09:10:50] <Le_Vert-Ntbk> hi
[09:11:04] <Le_Vert-Ntbk> is there any proper way to custom mainnav bar ?
[09:11:29] <Le_Vert-Ntbk> I looked into the template but here is what I got : <div id="mainnav" class="nav"><?cs call:nav(chrome.nav.mainnav) ?></div>
[09:11:45] <Le_Vert-Ntbk> dunno how I could change call:nav(chrome.nav.mainnav)
[09:13:30] <Le_Vert-Ntbk> http://www.trac-hacks.org/wiki/NavAddPlugin
[09:13:31] <Le_Vert-Ntbk> YEAH
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[10:35:33] <kyle___> Hey, I'm running trac's little standalone client, and for some reason when I try to browse source, I get the following error: File Not Found: revision 52, path 'tractest/'", 160013. Any ideas how I could fix this?
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[10:38:07] <coderanger> Resync it
[10:38:16] <coderanger> Are you running 0.10.3?
[10:40:27] <kyle___> 0.9.6
[10:41:49] <kyle___> How do you resync it?
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[10:47:12] <coderanger> kyle___: 1) trac-admin /path/to/env resync 2) You should consider upgrading
[10:47:24] <kyle___> yeah, I agree
[10:47:26] <kyle___> :)
[10:48:00] <kyle___> I'm running it on stupid windows in standalone... so there's not the overwhelming amount of documentation I'd like
[10:49:06] <kyle___> I really appreciate the help
[10:53:01] <kyle___> okay, here's the output it gives me: Command failed ("File not found: revision 52, path 'tractest/'" 160013)
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[10:57:29] <kyle___> tractest is a subdirectory of my repository that is supposed to be a project tracked with trac...
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[12:08:18] <Le_Vert> is there someone who use metanav = in trac.ini
[12:08:24] <Le_Vert> metanav = login,logout,settings
[12:08:32] <Le_Vert> http://trac.aircrack-ng.org/
[12:08:43] <Le_Vert> about and help links are still there....
[12:21:07] <kyle___> Okay, I went back and installed trac 0.10.3. Now all of my sites are coming up with 'Trac detected an internal error.'
[12:22:15] <kyle___> SubversionException: ("File not found: revision 52, path 'tractest/'", 160013)
[12:22:30] <kyle___> Any ideas?
[12:24:54] <kyle___> I uninstalled everything and reinstalled it all again.
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[12:36:46] <Le_Vert> useless
[12:36:57] <Le_Vert> just run trac-admin /path/to/trac/env resync
[12:37:06] <Le_Vert> and trac-admin /path/to/trac/env wiki upgrade
[12:55:59] <kyle___> When I run resync, I get the same error
[12:57:21] <Le_Vert> ??
[12:57:47] <Le_Vert> are you sure you set an absolute VALID path to the svn repository in trac.ini ?
[12:57:57] <kyle___> noi
[12:57:58] <kyle___> let me check that. :)
[13:00:48] <kyle___> yeah, repository directory is correct in trac.ini
[13:08:39] <kyle___> Shouldn't the error give the entire path to the directory it can't find?
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[13:41:04] <coderanger> Le_Vert: You need the NavHider plugin to hide things
[13:41:24] <coderanger> kyle___: What do you have repo_dir set to?
[13:41:33] <Le_Vert> NavHider
[13:41:34] <Le_Vert> okay
[13:41:36] <Le_Vert> thanks coderanger
[13:41:42] <Le_Vert> and thanks a lot for all your plugins
[13:41:51] <coderanger> heh
[13:41:59] <Le_Vert> (would you write a buildbot plugin ? :p)
[13:42:18] <coderanger> Given that I don't have a buildbot system to work with ....
[13:42:30] <Le_Vert> erg
[13:42:36] <Le_Vert> http://buildbot.aircrack-ng.org/
[13:43:15] <Le_Vert> I'd help you setting one up if needed
[13:44:06] <coderanger> Le_Vert: Maybe when I have less of a backlog of projects :P
[13:44:14] <Le_Vert> ;-)
[13:44:23] <Le_Vert> http://trac.aircrack-ng.org/ < I'm working on this
[13:44:33] <Le_Vert> for now we have trac + dokuwiki
[13:44:42] <Le_Vert> my current goal is to get saner navigation bar
[13:44:53] <Le_Vert> so we'll switch the whole doc to trac
[13:45:04] <coderanger> Define "saner"
[13:45:09] <Le_Vert> well
[13:45:18] <Le_Vert> Download link is important
[13:45:45] <Le_Vert> most of people don't care having a direct link to sources, buildbot, roadmap etc
[13:46:04] <Le_Vert> let's turn all this stuff in a 'development' tab
[13:48:13] <Le_Vert> let's merge all ticket related tabs on a 'Bug Tracker' one
[13:48:17] <kyle___> coderanger, in trac.ini?
[13:48:29] <Le_Vert> which would be a wiki page explaining how to report a new ticket
[13:48:36] <Le_Vert> and maybe custom query direct links
[13:48:37] <Le_Vert> etc
[13:48:43] <kyle___> coderanger, repository_dir = /repository/svn/tractest
[13:48:56] <kyle___> ...which is the actual path
[13:49:17] <coderanger> kyle___: So "/repository/svn" is a SVN repo?
[13:50:00] <kyle___> yes
[13:50:17] <kyle___> and /repository/svn/tractest is supposed to be a project.
[13:50:35] <coderanger> does it work without the scoped path
[13:50:39] <coderanger> i.e. just the repo
[13:51:00] <coderanger> Le_Vert: Between NavAdd and NavHider you should be able to do all that
[13:51:22] <Le_Vert> yep
[13:51:30] <Le_Vert> that's why I decided to figure out tonight
[13:52:19] <kyle___> coderanger, initenv gives me the error 'Directory exists and is not empty.'
[13:52:34] <kyle___> ...for /repository/svn
[13:52:39] <coderanger> kyle___: What are you initenv'ing?
[13:52:56] <kyle___> Do I not need to initenv an already active repository?
[13:53:06] <coderanger> No
[13:53:08] <kyle___> oh
[13:53:09] <kyle___> whoops
[13:53:13] <coderanger> That would be an error ;-)
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[13:54:52] <kyle___> Available Projects
[13:54:52] <kyle___> svn: Error
[13:54:54] <kyle___> ([Errno 2] No such file or directory: '\\repository\\svn\\VERSION')
[13:55:12] <kyle___> What's with the 'VERSION' ?
[13:55:20] <coderanger> kyle___: So that isnt a subversion repo
[13:55:42] <coderanger> First is this on windows or unix?
[13:55:52] <kyle___> windows
[13:56:00] <coderanger> ahh, thats not a valid path then
[13:56:14] <coderanger> c:/repository/svn
[13:57:18] <kyle___> same deal
[13:58:12] <kyle___> Available Projects
[13:58:12] <kyle___> svn: Error
[13:58:13] <kyle___> ([Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'c:\\repository\\svn\\VERSION')
[13:59:42] <kyle___> It was sort-of working with 0.9.6
[13:59:59] <kyle___> I just got that error for browse source...
[14:01:14] <coderanger> Are you using forward or backward slashed
[14:01:22] <kyle___> I've tried both
[14:01:27] <coderanger> use forward
[14:01:43] <coderanger> Then make sure that file actually exists
[14:02:42] <kyle___> coderanger, ok... I used c:/repository/svn in both trac.ini and the command line when I started tracd
[14:02:57] <kyle___> Why is the error adding 'VERSION' to the end of my path?
[14:02:57] <coderanger> one what command line?
[14:03:13] <Le_Vert> coderanger, could you tell me if there's a way to get
[14:03:15] <coderanger> Are you confusing the repo for the environment?
[14:03:15] <Le_Vert> for example
[14:03:22] <kyle___> python c:\python23\Scripts\tracd --port 8000 c:/repository/svn
[14:03:22] <Le_Vert> the last two svn commits logs
[14:03:29] <kyle___> coderanger, probably.
[14:03:32] <Le_Vert> through a wiki macro
[14:03:38] <kyle___> :)
[14:03:41] <coderanger> kyle___: Yeah, the Trac environment is unrelated to the subversion repo
[14:03:57] <coderanger> Le_Vert: ChangesetMacro
[14:04:03] <kyle___> okay... does the environment live in the repo?
[14:04:10] <coderanger> kyle___: No, nor should it
[14:04:14] <kyle___> or should it be somewhere else all together?
[14:04:30] <coderanger> Most people (on unix) have /var/svn and /var/trac
[14:04:34] <Le_Vert> any example somewhere ?
[14:04:46] <coderanger> Le_Vert: Any plugin page on trac-hacks
[14:06:44] <kyle___> coderanger, that explains it.
[14:07:00] <kyle___> The standalone windows docs are somewhat lacking for a newb like myself. :)
[14:07:10] <Le_Vert> coderanger, is it a new plugin ?
[14:07:24] <coderanger> Le_Vert: Not that new, alec made it a while ago
[14:07:45] <Le_Vert> yeah okay
[14:07:49] <Le_Vert> but I need a plugin
[14:08:21] <kyle___> coderanger, now there's no error, but there's no project either...
[14:08:29] <coderanger> Le_Vert: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/ChangeLogPlugin
[14:08:35] <coderanger> kyle___: Hmm?
[14:09:31] <kyle___> All I get is Available Projects in bold text, but there are no projects listed.
[14:09:46] <coderanger> kyle___: What options are you giving to tracd
[14:09:57] <coderanger> and what did you give to trac-admin for initenv
[14:10:41] <kyle___> coderanger, nevermind
[14:10:46] <kyle___> typo, it's working fine.
[14:10:56] <kyle___> Thanks SOOOOO much!!! I would send you a flower basket if I could.
[14:11:38] <coderanger> heh
[14:11:41] <Le_Vert> damn I hate track hacks plugin documentation
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[14:11:53] <Le_Vert> there's nothing about the syntax of changelog plugin
[14:12:09] <Le_Vert> what's the first parameter
[14:12:11] <coderanger> Le_Vert: Yes there is
[14:12:17] <coderanger> Its a path
[14:12:21] <Le_Vert> the second one is the number of revision I want to show
[14:12:25] <Le_Vert> but the first one ?
[14:12:33] <Le_Vert> svn path relative to site root ?
[14:12:38] <coderanger> You want [[ChangeLog(/,2)]]
[14:13:03] <Le_Vert> yep
[14:13:04] <Le_Vert> thanks :)
[14:13:41] <coderanger> Le_Vert: All macros also come with their own docs
[14:13:47] <coderanger> look at your WikiMacros page
[14:13:58] <Le_Vert> it adds doc in this page ?
[14:14:04] <coderanger> Yes
[14:14:15] <Le_Vert> oh
[14:14:22] <Le_Vert> I didn't know that
[14:14:23] <Le_Vert> nice
[14:14:26] <Le_Vert> http://trac.aircrack-ng.org/wiki/Sources
[14:14:33] <Le_Vert> I'll a LXR there too
[14:14:42] <Le_Vert> much nicer than the default trac nav bars
[14:14:55] <coderanger> Le_Vert: Not really
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[14:15:08] <coderanger> Le_Vert: It takes too many clicks to get to most places
[14:15:13] <daMaestro> how do i include literal html?
[14:15:27] <coderanger> daMaestro: The html macro/processor
[14:16:06] <Le_Vert> coderanger, it's the first try
[14:16:19] <Le_Vert> we'll discuss with the whole aircrack team
[14:16:27] <Le_Vert> to design the best looks
[14:16:37] <coderanger> Le_Vert: That kind of layout makes sense when most of your hits will be "users"
[14:16:52] <coderanger> But w.r.t. the defaults, trac is made for developers
[14:17:02] <daMaestro> coderanger, thanks
[14:17:12] <coderanger> Le_Vert: Not saying either is better
[14:17:19] <coderanger> Just two very different usage situations
[14:18:17] <Le_Vert> yes coderanger
[14:18:30] <Le_Vert> but for now we have a dokuwiki for end users docs
[14:18:40] <Le_Vert> and I'll et everything on trac
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[14:28:16] <Le_Vert> coderanger, do you know a plugin similar to changelog for bugs ?
[14:28:31] <coderanger> Le_Vert: The [[Query]] macro perhaps?
[14:33:02] <Le_Vert> okay ;)
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[14:46:25] <nzkoz> hey guys, we're trying to tune our rather large trac installation (postgresql), and I've noticed that it seems to be doing lots of slow queries, but debugging them is hard because all that gets logged is
[14:46:26] <nzkoz> LOG: duration: 92087.153 ms statement: FETCH 1 FROM "PgSQL_08F03C0C"
[14:46:48] <nzkoz> Is that an artifact of our use of pypgsql? or something inherent in trac?
[14:47:00] <coderanger> 1) pypgsql is slow as all get out
[14:47:10] <coderanger> 2) what page are you loading when you see that
[14:48:32] <nzkoz> our traffic is very high, so it's hard to isolate the particular page for a query without disabling the main site, that's the worst case query, but there are lots and lots of slow queries (1-20s) all of which are FETCH 1 FROM PgSQL_somehexthing
[14:48:48] <coderanger> ditch pypgsql asap then
[14:48:52] <coderanger> use psycopg2
[14:48:57] <nzkoz> so we're almost certainly just missing a bunch of indexes
[14:49:15] <nzkoz> do you know if psycopg2 will hhelp tracing the queries?
[14:49:23] <nzkoz> of can I make trac log the duration or sometdhing?
[14:49:26] <coderanger> it won't, but it will be a lot faster
[14:50:01] <coderanger> You can try installing my uber-experimental wiki caching plugin if most of your hits are to the wiki
[14:50:20] <coderanger> Also check for search bots spidering the site
[14:50:31] <nzkoz> we're not using the wiki functionality, just tickets and timeline.
[14:50:49] <nzkoz> We get lots of spam as well, but we've mostly blocked those bots, and the search bots are mostly well behaved
[14:51:09] <coderanger> What are you using for spam control
[14:51:09] <nzkoz> trac itself is now behaving, it's just hammering the postgres db, will try the other module
[14:51:31] <nzkoz> mod_security, requiring logins and some bayesian thing
[14:51:45] <coderanger> "some bayesian thing" isn't a good answer :P
[14:51:50] <coderanger> is it SpamFilter?
[14:51:57] <nzkoz> lemme check
[14:54:59] <nzkoz> yeah Spam Filter along with Account Manager, and Ticket Delete
[14:56:08] <Le_Vert> coderanger, still here ?
[14:56:11] <coderanger> Yep
[14:56:29] <Le_Vert> [[TicketQuery(status=reopened|new|assigned)]] < i added this qeury
[14:56:36] <Le_Vert> it returns all active bugs
[14:56:37] <Le_Vert> nice
[14:56:56] <Le_Vert> however, could you help me to modify it to only show 5 more recent tickets ?
[14:56:56] <coderanger> nzkoz: You can try asking for optimization tips on the users list
[14:57:14] <coderanger> Le_Vert: There isn't a way with the built in one
[14:57:22] <Le_Vert> errr
[14:57:24] <coderanger> Le_Vert: You could make your own macro for it
[14:57:28] <nzkoz> coderanger: it really is just the db queries, just need to track those down, and that's a little tough
[14:57:46] <Le_Vert> a bit hard for me
[14:58:15] <nzkoz> we're probably one of the highest traffic installation out there, so we hit some strange difficulties from time to time
[14:59:12] <coderanger> nzkoz: What site?
[14:59:17] <nzkoz> dev.rubyonrails.org
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