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February 26, 2007

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[00:08:43] <alect> hey cmlenz
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[00:08:56] <alect> hey you updated to the latest accountmanager?
[00:08:58] <alect> mgood fixed it
[00:13:20] <coderanger_> alect: 9 is so not happening
[00:13:27] <pacopablo> hehe
[00:13:31] <coderanger_> But my code works! :)
[00:13:38] <pacopablo> nice
[00:13:57] <alect> so not
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[00:21:00] <cmlenz> alect: r2031 is installed, but doesn't seem to fix the problem
[00:21:52] <alect> :(
[00:22:15] <alect> that sucks. sprint starts tomorrow
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[00:22:55] <cmlenz> where "tomorrow" is in a couple hours, no?
[00:23:02] <alect> yeah
[00:23:07] <alect> 7-8 hours from now
[00:23:13] <alect> will you still be awake then?
[00:23:14] <cmlenz> well, I'll definitely be available then
[00:23:20] <alect> ok cool
[00:23:27] <cmlenz> it's 9am here :-)
[00:23:29] <alect> on that note, i must sleep
[00:23:30] <alect> ah :)
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[03:19:51] <freek> Hi all, wondering what the complementary differences are between the services Source Fourge provides and the Trac functionality, anyone?
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[03:25:59] <freek> The way I understand (and use) Trac, it could be used to replace the ticketing system (for feature requests and bug fixes) and provide correlation with milestone's. With one downside, being the fact that there is a local SVN repository required near the Trac installation, or could the SF.net webspace be used to host Trac with access to the SF.net SVN repo?
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[04:56:04] <jonasn> In the plugin tutorial a new navigation button is inserted using the following lines:
[04:56:04] <jonasn> def get_navigation_items(self, req):
[04:56:12] <jonasn> yield 'mainnav', 'helloworld', '<a href="%s">hello</a>' % escape(self.env.href.helloworld())
[04:57:05] <jonasn> But the button on the main navigation shows the html not the text hello and you can't click on it.
[04:57:52] <jonasn> how do I make it a normal link ?
[04:59:39] <jonasn> alternative question: where do I find what arguments I should provide to "yield"?
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[05:56:27] <majorTomBelgium> hello, i have a question: if you use multiple projects, is it possible to have a search functionality which searches accross all those projects' wiki's and tickets? All those projects use the same (perforce) depot.
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[06:17:05] <thatch> majorTomBelgium: I am not aware of any plugin to do multi-project searching, but TracForge might.
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[06:27:08] <majorTomBelgium> ok, thanks
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[07:57:59] <shufla> hello
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[07:59:36] <shufla> I've come here just to say "thanks" for the trac project.
[07:59:41] <shufla> So: Thank you very much :)
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[08:11:04] <klando> +1 :)
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[08:25:42] <alect> morning
[08:25:58] <alect> sorry we're late, sprinters
[08:26:00] <retracile> 'tis. after 10am, even. ;P
[08:26:05] <alect> be there in 20
[08:26:06] <alect> yeah
[08:26:12] <alect> sleeeeeeeeeeeeep
[08:26:13] <alect> :)
[08:26:15] <retracile> We're in preston trail 3; big sign by the door
[08:26:29] <retracile> Yeah; sleep's nice. :)
[08:26:39] <alect> sweet
[08:26:41] <alect> see you soon
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[08:38:42] <alect> another auth wart: having to modify your settings before you show up in the user drop-downs
[08:39:02] <alect> eli: how many people are there already?
[08:39:48] <retracile> 5
[08:40:11] <retracile> we're expecting 5 more, including y'all
[08:40:27] <pacopablo> hehe :)
[08:41:39] <retracile> err... correction, we have 6 here
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[08:46:35] <retracile> Hey alect, it's been 20.. :P
[08:49:02] <cron> Hey, ran into an error this morning with sqlite + trac saying "unsupported file format" while trying to access any trac page. I checked all the bindings and the pid map's to confirm they both were calling the proper version of the pysqlite library. The trac standalone daemon worked fine so it was an apache issue. Traced it down to php 5.1.6 pdo module for sqlite. A quick comment out of the extension line in the /etc/php.d/pdo_sqlite.ini and rehup of th
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[08:56:48] <thatch> cron: yes, there have been a number of issues like that. Thanks for the report.
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[09:00:12] <cron> thatch: np, figured i'd let you guys know was a pita to track down :)
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[09:02:41] <thatch_> ping
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[09:17:50] <alect> cmlenz: ping
[09:19:05] <thatch> all: there's now a copy of trunk in sandbox/pycon/workflow
[09:19:50] <alect> does everybody have accounts?
[09:27:00] * ErikRose doesn't.
[09:34:57] <cmlenz_> here
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[09:35:35] <cmlenz> has matt done anything about accounts?
[09:35:55] <alect> no
[09:36:04] <alect> can you give me accountmanager privs?
[09:36:08] <cmlenz> okay… can I get a list of usernames?
[09:36:19] <cmlenz> accountmgr isn't really working for some reason :-(
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[09:39:32] <alect> ErikRose, pacopablo, retracile, fwierzbicki, rduhon, jwhitlark, blais
[09:39:39] <alect> retracile = Eli Carter
[09:39:39] <alect> Pacopablo = John Hampton
[09:39:48] <alect> so if you want to normalise the usernames
[09:40:00] <pacopablo> probably want to add coderanger in there too
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[09:40:07] <alect> heh
[09:40:25] <alect> hey jwhitlark...
[09:40:33] <alect> what's your first name?
[09:40:39] <alect> blais = Martin Blais
[09:40:41] <jwhitlark> Jason
[09:40:48] <alect> ta
[09:40:51] <alect> i'm alec
[09:41:06] <jwhitlark> 'lo
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[09:43:07] <blais> helo
[09:43:07] <alect> i suggest we prefix all our commit messages with PyCon:
[09:43:10] <jwhitlark> alect, x60s customized in US $: 2,088
[09:43:10] <cmlenz> I'm going to just create passwords for you guys... or do you want to send me the digests? would probably take to long, eh?
[09:43:58] <alect> we have a conventiion of prefixing our commit messages with the wiki name of the sandbox
[09:44:05] <alect> so if you want to create a specific wiki page for your sandbox and use that, go for it
[09:44:21] <alect> http://svn.edgewall.com/repos/trac/sandbox/pycon/
[09:45:34] <alect> (root)
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[09:46:24] <jwhitlark> the security branch is the context-refactoring, yes?
[09:46:26] <alect> jwhitlark: that's not too bad
[09:46:31] <alect> jwhitlark: yeah
[09:47:36] <jwhitlark> tnx
[09:49:22] <lisppaste5> mDuff pasted "WikiText not acting as I expect" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/37432
[09:49:32] <mDuff> WikiText isn't behaving as I expect it. I have a numeric-list item where I nest a bulleted list under a numeric list item. I'm trying to then back out of the bulleted list and add a paragraph under the numeric list item, but it's being treated as a separate numeric list item. Anyone mind taking a look?
[09:49:41] <mDuff> (pastebinned above)
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[09:50:44] <alect> jwhitlark: $3,599.00 AUD
[09:50:54] <alect> seems my guesstimate was somewhat over the top ;)
[09:51:40] <alect> still, $3.6K is much
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[09:53:10] <pacopablo> ErikRose: : http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/wiki/TracMultipleVersions/multitrac.3
[09:55:31] <thatch> mDuff: if you want the "Easy of integration..." paragraph not indented, then remove leading whitespace. You'll then need to edit the next list item to be 2 or whatever.
[09:57:51] <mDuff> thatch: I want it indented to the same extent that the "Subversion is in many respects less ad-hoc" text is indented; it should be a continuation of the first numbered list entry.
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[10:04:20] <thatch> mDuff: looks like a bug, using the indentation levels you are.
[10:04:58] <alect> heh
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[10:05:34] <mDuff> thatch: I should file this as an issue against the trac project, then?
[10:05:49] <thatch> I'll file it with the minimum required to reproduce. I imagine the wiki parser will be refactored before it's fixed though... try rst in the meantime?
[10:06:00] <thatch> mDuff: yeah, you can file it.
[10:06:24] <thatch> in fact, I suggest you do.
[10:07:33] <mitsuhiko> alect: sprinting?
[10:08:54] <mDuff> thatch: I can handle the description, but could you come up with a summary for this that a 3rd party could quickly understand to get an idea of what the bug's about? I'm having trouble coming up with something adequately terse.
[10:09:58] <blais> mblais user access does not work
[10:10:05] <thatch> mDuff: maybe... Unable to return to previous indentation in wiki
[10:10:14] <mDuff> That works; thankya!
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[10:15:26] <redir> is there a convention for performing strptime on SQL queries?
[10:16:26] <blais> new logins work.
[10:16:29] <mDuff> thatch: filed as #4848
[10:18:41] <pacopablo> I think that one of the reports has some examples
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[10:24:48] <mDuff> Can trac be told to reread revprops from a specific revision (ie. where svn:log has been changed) without a full resync?
[10:25:15] * mDuff has a svn repository with 30,000 revisions imported from CVS on top of new development; resyncs take some time.
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[10:27:21] <helmut> Hi. Can I set up trac to be fully controllable via mail? (i.e. is this possible?) And how difficult would that be? (one patch? editing 50 config files? just an estimation)
[10:29:04] <pacopablo> helmut, define fully controlable
[10:29:19] <pacopablo> there is the email to trac script
[10:29:29] <pacopablo> that lets one submit and update tickets via email
[10:29:48] <pacopablo> but ahta's the only "email" control that is available
[10:30:25] <helmut> pacopablo: fully controlable means I can do everything with bugs I can do via web. (create, modify, close, etc.)
[10:32:09] <pacopablo> look at the email2trac script on trac-hacks.org
[10:32:16] <helmut> thanks!
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[10:39:37] <alect> ppppppppppyyyyyyyyyyyyconnnnnnnnn
[10:40:19] <cmlenz> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=pycon2007%20trac&w=all
[10:40:23] <cmlenz> where's stuff? :-P
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[10:43:50] <matt_good> pacopablo: here's the sqlite datetime methods: http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=DateAndTimeFunctions
[10:45:21] <alect> cmlenz: thatch should have some stuff somewhere
[10:45:39] <thatch> cmlenz: http://timhatch.com/photos/v/mine/20070223-pycon/
[10:45:43] <thatch> I hate flickr.
[10:45:54] <pacopablo> redir: : look at the link matt_good posted
[10:46:27] <cmlenz> heh
[10:46:48] <thatch> cmlenz: check out the last item under the trac talk, I entered that under "best photo" a few hours late, we'll see what comes of it
[10:47:33] <cmlenz> neat :-)
[10:47:38] <thatch> cmlenz: there's also a panorama but it requires quicktime for now
[10:47:42] <alect> thatch: can i get the details for your lenses?
[10:47:51] <alect> any time, no hurry :)
[10:47:55] <cmlenz> <- has quicktime
[10:48:06] <matt_good> redir: there's now "strptime", but the date, datetime, and julianday methods will do parsing based on their format parameter
[10:48:33] <cmlenz> so that was actually the trac talk? pretty full, eh?
[10:48:42] <alect> yeah definitely
[10:48:52] <alect> about half were already using it, the other half just interested
[10:49:04] <alect> it was pretty cool
[10:49:07] <alect> lots of questions at the end
[10:49:13] <alect> 6 or 7 maybe
[10:49:18] <alect> workflow of course ;)
[10:49:20] <alect> and secureity
[10:49:25] <alect> -e
[10:49:33] <thatch> cmlenz: http://timhatch.com/ex/2007/02/trac-dinner2.mov is the rough version. The half heads will be fixed when I get access to a fast machine that can actually run Photoshop
[10:49:50] <thatch> cmlenz: yeah, the only question we weren't asked (that I almost went up to do) is "Why do you guys use milestones wrong."
[10:50:23] <alect> heh
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[10:51:14] <cmlenz> hehe
[10:51:33] <alect> hmmm
[10:51:38] <alect> this context stuff is...pervasive
[10:51:43] <cmlenz> need names for those faces ;-)
[10:52:10] <cmlenz> yeah
[10:52:14] <cmlenz> nice wording
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[10:52:20] <thatch> alect: Yeah, we can talk lenses. I want to see some real-world samples with yours too.
[10:53:19] <alect> cool
[10:54:04] <thatch> cmlenz: starting from the head of the table and going right... Alec, Tim, Two guys, Noah,