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<cboos> |
how's PyCon going? |
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<cboos> |
ok, I see: PyCon's going asleep ;-) |
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<Macca> |
where is the global config for trac ? |
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<Getty> |
/usr/share/trac/conf/trac.ini |
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<Getty> |
(not 100percent sure if that is also standard) |
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<alect> |
evening |
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<alect> |
cboos: not bad |
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<alect> |
not so productive today, more just yapping :) |
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<cboos> |
hello! |
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<cboos> |
;-) |
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<cboos> |
was quite productive, the workflow branch looks promising |
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<cboos> |
what's the program? another sprint day? or was that the last one? |
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<alect> |
heh |
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<alect> |
two more days to go |
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<alect> |
though we're down a couple of guys now |
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<cboos> |
oh great! |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: SandBox edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SandBox> |
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<nick_fn> |
When I provide text to clearsilver using req.hdf[keyname] = '<p>my text</p>' the HTML is escaped. Can I avoid that, so provide markup directly? |
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<cboos> |
req.hdf[keyname] = Markup('<p>my text</p>') |
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<cboos> |
where Markup is the magic unicode subclass |
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<cboos> |
in 0.10, get it "from trac.util.text import Markup" |
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<nick_fn> |
ah, thank you! |
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<cboos> |
and for 0.11, use preferably: "from genshi.core import Markup" |
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<cboos> |
though the former will still work |
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<nick_fn> |
I also would like some text to be wiki-interpreted first, but I think I can find that in the documentation |
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<cboos> |
the wiki_to_... functions already return a Markup instance, so take care to not escape it twice ;-) |
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<nick_fn> |
ok |
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<cboos> |
(that's not problematic actually, Markup(Markup('>')) won't escape it twice) |
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<nick_fn> |
Documentation on wiki_to_html is tricky to find at trac.edgewall.org |
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<cboos> |
correct |
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<nick_fn> |
I'll read source ;-) |
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<cboos> |
yes... a good idea anyway if you'd like to use the Trac API ;-) |
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<cboos> |
don't get to scared by looking at the trac/wiki/formatter.py, you don't need to get into that |
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<cboos> |
rather use other modules (web_ui.py files), to see about the usage |
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<cboos> |
rather look I mean |
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<nick_fn> |
ok |
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<nick_fn> |
My text (loaded from an XML document) currently contains "name as "Nick" or", as it's quoted HTML really. I don't want just Markup() (which would fix that quoting) as I'd like [100] etc. converted to links too... |
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<nick_fn> |
Can I have both?! |
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<cboos> |
you mean you have a mix of HTML and TracLinks in your content? |
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<nick_fn> |
yeah |
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<cboos> |
well, the wiki parser will interpret HTML markup as text, i.e. it will quote it |
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<cboos> |
so if you do: wiki_to_html("" [100] " "), you'll get somehing like |
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<cboos> |
Markup("&quot; <a href="...">100</a> &quot;") |
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<nick_fn> |
yes, that's what I see now. |
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<nick_fn> |
I guess I can't have it both ways, which is a pity |
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<cboos> |
depending what you're actually writing (a plugin, a custom trac version, a particular script) it might be possible |
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<nick_fn> |
a plugin at the moment |
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<cboos> |
well, then no ;-) |
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<nick_fn> |
hehe :-) |
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<nick_fn> |
I suppose I could heavy handedly adjust the output from wiki_to_html() |
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<nick_fn> |
'seems to work' |
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<dc2447> |
Does anyone know if "2007-02-28 11:26:03,561 Trac[main] ERROR: disk I/O error" indicates a corrupt database? |
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<dc2447> |
when using sqlite |
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<cboos> |
dc2447: any kind of error with filesystem calls on db/trac.db could produce that -> check the physical integrity of the file and the filesystem |
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<dc2447> |
Hi - the file system is fine - it's a large NFS server - |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: DatabaseBackend edited by Colin <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/DatabaseBackend> |
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<cboos> |
so it was probably a failure with a lock |
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<cboos> |
but it's not really recommended to have a sqlite db on a nfs server |
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<dc2447> |
Ok - we think we are specifically getting this problem with the 'browse source' part of trac - everything e4lse runs fine. Browse source just takes about tes minutes to return any content |
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<dc2447> |
cboos - I know that sqlite and nfs isn't a great ide abut we have only a sinlge client accessing sqlite |
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<dc2447> |
Is there any way to verify the sqlite db? |
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<dc2447> |
Have tried the hotcopy function in trac-admin and browse source is still incredibly slow |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: MySqlDb edited by Colin Guthrie <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MySqlDb> |
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<dc2447> |
anyone know how to clear out tracs internal cache? |
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<Musafer> |
HI |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: DatabaseBackend edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/DatabaseBackend> |
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<cboos> |
dc2447: the slowness while browsing, this is probably because you have your SVN repository on the same NFS share... also a bad combo |
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<cboos> |
although Trac is also using the cache for the changeset related information, while browsing |
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<dc2447> |
cboos - the NFS is faster than the local disk by several orders of magnitude |
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<cboos> |
well, the problem is with the locks |
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<cboos> |
both SQLite and Subversion are making some critical use of file locking |
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<cboos> |
that could be the bottleneck |
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<dc2447> |
eh? Are you suggesting that trac is using svn locks? WTF |
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<dc2447> |
any there is no locking for viewing an svn repo |
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<cboos> |
and I'm sure you couldn't find a local disk that would make Trac browse a repository in 10 minutes... |
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<cboos> |
well, are you sure there's no kind of read lock for svn? ok, maybe. But there is for SQLite for sure |
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<dc2447> |
No, because I used trac-admin /nfs/foo/bar hotcopy /localdisk/foo/bar and it made not difference |
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<cboos> |
ok, that moved your sqlite db on the local disk, what about the svn repository? |
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<cboos> |
can you try to do the same? (assuming the repos is on the nfs share) |
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<cboos> |
btw, which repository backend are you using? fsfs or bdb? |
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<cboos> |
bdb has read locks |
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<cboos> |
or more precisely, accessing a bdb svn repository in read mode requires write access (and therefore write locks) |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Trac0.9/TracOnWindows edited by Nik <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/Trac0.9/TracOnWindows> |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: WikiNewPage edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiNewPage> || Ticket #4865 (defect created): Interpreted InterTrac URL ignoring spaces in target names <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4865> |
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<cboos> |
urgh, seems like the recent internet explorer javascript hack plays not well with ie7... |
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<cboos> |
the displayed page starts with a beautiful : |
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<cboos> |
<!--[if IE lt 7]> <![endif]--> |
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<cboos> |
in the upper left corner... |
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<cboos> |
(just above the trac logo) |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cboos: link? :) |
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<cboos> |
well, anytihng |
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<cboos> |
use ie7 on a recent trac |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cboos: ubuntu user |
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<mitsuhiko> |
hmm. hey. i have a ie7 installation |
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<mitsuhiko> |
*try* |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cboos: not on the pocoo trac? |
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<cboos_> |
mitsuhiko: it was introduced by r4848 |
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<mitsuhiko> |
well. becoming ie7 running on ubuntu is quite of a hack |
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<mitsuhiko> |
maybe it works here by chance :) |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4866 (defect created): Bug when handling slashes in DB passwords <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4866> |
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<cboos_> |
perhaps it's an "old" ie7 still compatible with ie6 bugs ;-) |
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<cboos_> |
nick cboos |
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<ikea2_> |
is it possible to use trac on iss? |
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<ikea2_> |
iis? |
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<apk> |
It is possible to run Apache on Windows. (: |
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<apk> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnWindowsIis6 |
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<ikea2_> |
apk: have a tech dude here that's gonna set that up for me (= |
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<ikea2_> |
apk: just thought I'd ask if it's possible |
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<ikea2_> |
so he's not wastin' teh $$$ |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: TracEnvironment edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracEnvironment> || TracEnvironment edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracEnvironment> |
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<apk> |
Does Trac resync with Subversion when you save a ticket? |
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<apk> |
Does anybody have a cron job to periodically copy the subversion repository to keep a separate copy for trac and resync trac, so trac is not slowed by people committing to subversion during the day? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4867 (defect created): Zip files cannot be read with Windows unarchiver <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4867> |
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<pacopablo> |
morning ;) |
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<kafe> |
evening :) |
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<kfaday> |
hello |
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<kfaday> |
would anybody please check out the following? |
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<kfaday> |
http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users/browse_thread/thread/9a2db5691d1de29e/c5c26bcdab1ec7c2?lnk=gst&q=kfaday&rnum=2#c5c26bcdab1ec7c2 |
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<kfaday> |
it's a problem i'm having, i can't remove the default permissions on users |
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<kfaday> |
thanks! |
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<thatch> |
Hey guys, is anyone still sprinting at pycon? |
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<retracile_> |
Yep! |
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<retracile_> |
Come back! |
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<thatch> |
I can't, work and school. |
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<thatch> |
I just wanted to point out something I noticed wrt the recent wiki edits. |
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<retracile> |
Aw, skip out & come anyway. ;) |
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<thatch> |
trac/ticket/api.py line 307 says available_acts = ['leave'], but line 105 doesn't. WorkFlow r52 also says leave is no longer allowed by default. |
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<retracile> |
Right... you have to specify leave... |
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<thatch> |
then shouldn't line 307 not have it in by default? (admittedly that's code I wrote...) |
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<retracile> |
In fact, you have to define leave. |
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<rduhon> |
the 307 stuff is legacy stuff that hasn't been removed yet, I think |
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<thatch> |
oh. |
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<thatch> |
ok |
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<rduhon> |
I left it in while I was testing, and part of the class is still needed |
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<rduhon> |
(the remaining part to be eventually replaced with the IFieldProvider things and such) |
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<rduhon> |
also, its what the unit tests use . . . I need to write some more unit tests for the new stuff, it'll just be a little more complicated (since the new stuff can have arbitrary workflows) |
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<kfaday> |
hello, would anybody please check out the following? |
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<kfaday> |
http://groups.google.com/group/trac-users/browse_thread/thread/9a2db5691d1de29e/c5c26bcdab1ec7c2?lnk=gst&q=kfaday&rnum=2#c5c26bcdab1ec7c2 |
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<kfaday> |
it's a problem i'm having, i can't remove the default permissions on users, thanks |
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<thatch> |
kfaday: can you clarify "can't remove"? do you get an error? |
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<kfaday> |
hey thatch, no error, i just remove it the usual way, then list it and get the same permissions, nothing has been removed |
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<kfaday> |
i tried adding trac_admin to the user, and removing it |
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<kfaday> |
that worked |
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<kfaday> |
but i couldn't remove any of the default permissions |
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<thatch> |
can you paste the exact line you're typing to remove permission? |
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<kfaday> |
give me one sec. it's the same one found on trac help |
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<kfaday> |
permission remove user 1 WIKI_MODIFY |
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<kfaday> |
permission remove user1 WIKI_MODIFY |
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<thatch> |
that should work. What's your Trac version & db backend? |
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<kfaday> |
if i do the following "permission list user1", WIKI_MODIFY still exists |
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<kfaday> |
trac 0.10.3 |
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<apk> |
Am I missing something, or does Trac not track which bugs are duplicates of which? |
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<kfaday> |
how do i get the db backend? |
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<apk> |
cat trac.ini | grep database |
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<kfaday> |
working on windows, but got it... sqlite:db/trac.db |
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<thatch> |
apk: no, Trac doesn't currently do that. It's on the list of things to add. It could be done as a ticket change listener plugin. |
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<thatch> |
kfaday: hmm. You say you have Discussion Trac plugin installed? If you disable the plugin for a sec, can you remove the permissions then reenable? |
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<kfaday> |
what if i download a sqlite database browser and remove permissions from that user that way? |
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<kfaday> |
http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/ |
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<kfaday> |
let me try |
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<kfaday> |
i disabled discussion plugin from trac ini, restarted apache, tried removing some permissions, but i get the same behaviour as before |
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<kfaday> |
:( |
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<apk> |
I'll just make a custom field "duplicate of" in hopes that when it adds the feature, I can migrate the data. |
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<thatch> |
apk: what are you going to do with "the data"? |
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<apk> |
thatch: When the features is added, I'll find out where the featuers stores its information, and I'll move the data from the ticket_custom table to wherever it is needed. |
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<kfaday> |
strange, i've been browsing the permissions db in trac, and not all users i created that are in apache, and can see trac, are in that db |
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<kfaday> |
might that be it? |
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<kfaday> |
username anonymus has all the default permissions |
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<apk> |
It is easy to query the database to find which tickets are a duplicate of a particular ticket. Can't be that hard to get that information into the ticket display. |
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<kfaday> |
apk: You could create a ticket report showing what you want |
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<kfaday> |
only trac admins are in the permission table |
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<apk> |
kfaday: That would be easy enough. It would be nice to have it on the display though. |
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<kfaday> |
thatch? |
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<mikedld|w> |
2all: if I need to skip some fields depending on action to be made, what can I do? skip means I don't want to show them on the form |
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<mikedld|w> |
or in other words, is there any was to make user first specify action, and them show the form? |
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<mikedld|w> |
*then |
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<mikedld|w> |
*any way |
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<mikedld|w> |
:-p |
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<markm2319> |
Any way of setting an alternative locking mode on Trac Wiki page edits? (current seems to be optimistic - and I would like to have pessimistic with a timeout) |
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<alect> |
mmm, morning |
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<retracile> |
Uh, no alect, it's afternoon. |
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<retracile> |
;P |
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<alect> |
not in australia |
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<alect> |
! |
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<retracile> |
Yes, but you're not in australia, now are you? |
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<cboos_> |
alect: are you back there, or you can't help but resynchronize? |
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<alect> |
cboos: still in the US, just messing with eli :) |
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<cboos> |
cool |
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<cboos> |
ok, Addison, we have a problem |
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<cboos> |
known as the weirdest Posgresql bug ever, #4043 |
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<cboos> |
which can totally block Trac |
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<cboos> |
now, it's not only a postgresql bug, as it happens also with pysqlite |
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<cboos> |
as I've witnessed yesterday on the Paludis Trac |
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<cboos> |
so it's a /big/ problem |
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<cboos> |
now lI've just finished a patch which should hopefully fix it |
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<cboos> |
and I'd really appreciate if some of you could test it a bit |
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<cboos> |
works for me (tm0 |
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<cboos> |
works for me (tm) |
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<cboos> |
but such a big change must be more thoroughly tested |
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<cboos> |
in case someone is interested, the patch (currently for trunk) is attached at the folliwing ticket |
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<cboos> |
@ticket 4586 |
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<evil_twin> |
cboos: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4586 |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #3837 (enhancement closed): Inefficient sql query <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3837#comment:9> |
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<cboos> |
ok, thanks for your attention, you can resume your normal operations ;-) |
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<alect> |
heh |
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<f13> |
Is there a way to get notifications of wiki edits for a project? |
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<f13> |
I got ticket notification working, but not so much wiki edits |
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<kfaday> |
f12: go to timeline, then check wiki changes |
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<kfaday> |
click update |
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<kfaday> |
and get the rss feed again |
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<kfaday> |
f13 (sorry) |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4868 (enhancement created): Johns New Teckit for testing <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4868> || TracInstall edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall> || Changeset [4879]: PyCon: Security branch. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/4879> |
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<f13> |
kfaday: hrm, I was hoping something not rss. rss is somewhat transient where as email is more perminent. |
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<alect> |
http://bailando.sims.berkeley.edu/papers/infovis01.htm |
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<alect> |
http://hypergraph.sourceforge.net/ |
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<alect> |
http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~rachna/gtv/ |
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<fugu13> |
our main software tool is at http://nwb.slis.indiana.edu , which is built on top of our framework ( http://cishell.org ) |
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<coderanger_> |
f13: There is a wiki notification plugin |
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<alect> |
http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~aquigley/3dfade/ |
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<f13> |
coderanger_: ok, I'll look into it. Thakns. |
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<chrisg> |
Any tips on getting custom fields into the output of custom queries? |
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<chrisg> |
I like the custom queries, and would prefer using some form of cq as opposed to a custom report |
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<apk> |
chrisg: join on ticket_custom ? |
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<apk> |
oh, you said custom queries, not custom reports. |
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