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March 04, 2007

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[03:37:53] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4885 (defect created): Possible memory leak (after update to 0.11dev-r4930) <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4885>
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[05:13:37] <m_g> is the graphviz plugin developer here atm/sometimes?
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[06:38:49] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #3093 (defect reopened): reduce useless emails by not sending to the person causing the notification <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3093#comment:14>
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[08:06:12] <hennk> hi
[08:07:51] <hennk> i just installed 0.10.3 with python 2.5 on my dreamhost account, and added my username to TRAC_ADMIN, but i still can't edit existing tickets, for example
[08:08:14] <hennk> any hints what i could be doing wrong?
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[11:21:53] <mirage> i need trac webadmin. should i upgrade 0.10 -> 0.11 or get the plugin?
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[11:23:38] <coderanger> No real difference
[11:23:52] <coderanger> I think the only things changed so far is the CSS :P
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[11:24:17] <miraage> coderanger: ok, thanks :)
[11:24:29] <coderanger> 0.11 is still under active development though
[11:24:40] <coderanger> so if you choose that route, expect bugs
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[11:40:23] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4884 (enhancement closed): ticket-custom shall not store empty value to database <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4884#comment:1>
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[13:10:14] <m_g> coderanger, hmm you there?
[13:10:20] <coderanger> Yahr
[13:10:24] <m_g> :)
[13:11:18] <m_g> suppose smtp_always_cc contains one email address and always_notify_owner/reporter is false. the other users have set their email address in their settings. when should they receive a notification about a ticket change? if they a) have made a change to the ticket or b) are in the ticket's cc line?
[13:13:05] <coderanger> a) no, b) yes
[13:13:24] <m_g> ah, ok, thought the same, thanks :)
[13:29:11] <dialtone> is there any known issue between trac 0.11dev and the mercurial-plugin?
[13:29:19] <dialtone> (0.11 version)
[13:29:56] <dialtone> because I get an error about not supporting hg type repositories although hg is loaded during startup (debug messages) and both mercurial and the plugin are correctly installed
[13:32:22] <coderanger> dialtone: I know it should work, but you would have to talk to cboos for specifics
[13:32:58] <dialtone> uhm, ok
[13:33:01] <dialtone> thanks
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[14:43:18] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4887 (defect created): Web changeset does not show new files "changes" <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4887>
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[17:27:50] <alect> hi
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[17:32:26] <coderanger> alect: alo
[17:32:31] <coderanger> Hows CA?
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[18:01:18] <The_Tick> coderanger: happen to be around?
[18:01:23] <coderanger> Indeedy
[18:01:30] <The_Tick> hurray :D
[18:01:48] <The_Tick> so there's a problem on adium trac, and I'd like to know how to figure out what the problem is
[18:02:04] <coderanger> symptoms?
[18:02:04] <The_Tick> so I can get better, become stronger, and attract sexier women
[18:02:09] <The_Tick> http://trac.adiumx.com/register
[18:02:13] <The_Tick> try to make an account
[18:02:15] <The_Tick> gives an error
[18:02:17] <The_Tick> lisppaste5: help
[18:02:18] <lisppaste5> To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac and enter your paste.
[18:02:32] <The_Tick> hrmph
[18:02:45] <lisppaste5> The_Tick pasted "whee" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/37720
[18:05:39] <coderanger> hrmm, checking
[18:08:39] <The_Tick> I almost just disabled all the plugins but account manager first
[18:08:46] <The_Tick> but figured I'd run it by you
[18:08:51] <alect> coderangER: CA is good. just did a walk around stanford campus
[18:08:58] <alect> and now i feel like snoozing
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[18:13:39] <lisppaste5> coderanger annotated #37720 with "possible fix" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/37720#1
[18:14:13] <The_Tick> oh wow, ya, I wouldn't have figured that out
[18:14:26] <coderanger> Just a guess really
[18:14:41] <coderanger> There isn't much mention of that error on the intartubes
[18:14:55] <The_Tick> aye
[18:15:02] <The_Tick> the only mentioin
[18:15:08] <The_Tick> is tickets filed by adium users on edgewall
[18:15:09] <The_Tick> lol
[18:15:15] <The_Tick> sorry btw :(
[18:15:32] <coderanger> I'm not doing anything useful, don't feel bad ;-)
[18:15:40] <coderanger> (PS: Yay for the Wii)
[18:15:44] <The_Tick> dude, yes
[18:15:46] <The_Tick> wii rules
[18:16:02] <The_Tick> wii360dslite is definitely the winning thing
[18:16:05] <The_Tick> oooh, borat on dvd
[18:21:29] <coderanger> I can't figure out if there is just something I am missing w.r.t. fishing in twilight princess
[18:22:20] <The_Tick> coderanger: flick the wiimote
[18:22:27] <The_Tick> wait until the lure gets bobbed down
[18:22:30] <The_Tick> flick back
[18:22:38] <The_Tick> turn nunchuck on the side
[18:22:45] <The_Tick> spin it like a reel
[18:23:19] <coderanger> Thats what I did the first time, and it worked. Now nothing is happening :P
[18:23:52] <The_Tick> how far do you get?
[18:24:01] <coderanger> Still at the start
[18:24:08] <The_Tick> so next to the cat?
[18:24:14] <coderanger> Yeah
[18:24:22] <The_Tick> alright, fishing there is "easier" than the pond
[18:24:31] <The_Tick> but it's still a pita
[18:24:43] <coderanger> Oh the joys of rapid ports
[18:24:54] <The_Tick> heh
[18:24:59] <The_Tick> this is the only place where it shows
[18:25:10] <coderanger> So I've heard
[18:25:14] <The_Tick> ok, so are you able to hook a fish?
[18:25:21] <coderanger> Nope
[18:25:36] <The_Tick> how long do you wait for the floater to go under?
[18:25:49] <coderanger> seems to take about 30 seconds
[18:26:03] <coderanger> There we go
[18:26:16] <The_Tick> you want the fish to hit the land
[18:26:18] <The_Tick> so the cat grabs it
[18:26:34] <The_Tick> so you want to cast from the back edge of the dock
[18:27:13] <coderanger> Thats somewhat cryptic
[18:27:22] <The_Tick> heh
[18:27:26] <The_Tick> ok, so the point here
[18:27:31] <The_Tick> is for the cat to grab the fish
[18:27:42] <coderanger> Yeah, its an item trade sequence
[18:27:42] <The_Tick> but he won't go into the water, so you have to catch and then release the fish
[18:27:45] <The_Tick> right
[18:28:01] <The_Tick> the little dock where you fish at
[18:28:04] <The_Tick> at the back of it
[18:28:08] <coderanger> yep, got it
[18:28:10] <The_Tick> that butts against the land
[18:28:11] <The_Tick> cool
[18:28:14] <coderanger> thanky :)
[18:28:38] <The_Tick> that bit pissed me off for a day
[18:28:52] <The_Tick> it's the one bit I will tell anyone about :D
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[19:44:52] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by barnett@reaganpower.us <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
[19:45:17] <dmd> Can anyone tell me why this happens: http://trac.3e.org/index.fcgi/browser/quals/answers.tex (hangs for a while while loading, then truncates the file and gives an error)
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[19:46:05] <The_Tick> hrmm
[19:46:18] <The_Tick> go the error dmd ?
[19:46:22] <The_Tick> got*
[19:46:31] <coderanger> dmd: Check the Apache log
[19:46:40] <coderanger> dmd: I bet you have an ErrorDocument 404 set
[19:47:17] <The_Tick> coderanger: you should write an oreilly book about trac :P
[19:47:36] <dmd> i'm getting this: [Sun Mar 04 19:40:17 2007] [error] [client 68.90.49.24] FastCGI: comm with server "/home/edges/trac.3e.org/index.fcgi" aborted: idle timeout (60 sec), referer: http://trac.3e.org/index.fcgi/browser/quals/answers.tex
[19:47:38] <coderanger> The_Tick: Someone actually talked to me about helping edit a Trac book at pycon
[19:47:42] <dmd> and [Sun Mar 04 19:39:07 2007] [error] [client 128.113.151.148] (104)Connection reset by peer: FastCGI: comm with server "/home/edges/trac.3e.org/index.fcgi" aborted: read failed
[19:47:51] <The_Tick> coderanger: I think you'd qualify for that
[19:47:51] <dmd> no other file is giving me this problem
[19:47:53] <coderanger> dmd: Give tracd a shot
[19:48:01] <The_Tick> hrmm
[19:48:18] <dmd> hmm. that time it loaded
[19:48:23] <dmd> so it doesn't *always* fail.
[19:48:23] <dmd> weird.
[19:48:25] <The_Tick> I've seen that error before
[19:49:01] <dmd> did you see the error when you loaded the page?
[19:49:10] <coderanger> The_Tick: Definitely submitting a talk on Trac programming next year for pycon, maybe a tutorial too if I can get things together enough
[19:49:14] <coderanger> dmd: I did
[19:49:30] <The_Tick> coderanger: I think the way to get a book is barcamping now
[19:49:36] <The_Tick> lots and lots of random barcamping
[19:49:55] <dmd> coderanger: so is it halting there because... fastcgi is crapping out?
[19:50:19] <coderanger> dmd: Seems like it, but tracd would tell you for sure (if it works that is)
[19:50:26] <dmd> not sure what tracd is
[19:50:42] <dmd> oh i see
[19:50:43] <The_Tick> using lightty?
[19:50:44] <dmd> standalone
[19:50:58] <dmd> i'm running this on a Dreamhost shared server
[19:51:14] <dmd> i'm not sure i can run tracd. well, maybe, for testing
[19:51:15] <The_Tick> oh
[19:51:16] <dmd> yeah
[19:51:19] <dmd> on a high-numbered port
[19:51:22] <dmd> for a few minutes
[19:51:22] <The_Tick> does cgi work fine?
[19:51:29] <The_Tick> just fastcgi does this?
[19:51:32] <dmd> yeah
[19:51:35] <coderanger> The_Tick: It would nice if there was a big enough Python community around here
[19:51:36] <dmd> i just checked that
[19:51:37] <The_Tick> I know why
[19:51:39] <The_Tick> sec
[19:51:43] <dmd> if i switch to cgi it works fine
[19:51:54] <The_Tick> there's some setting in the panel
[19:52:26] <The_Tick> coderanger: aye
[19:53:09] <The_Tick> dmd: go to panel.dreamhost.com
[19:53:17] <The_Tick> oh, they changed the panel
[19:53:25] <The_Tick> click on manage domains
[19:54:18] <The_Tick> then go to the configure thing
[19:54:24] <The_Tick> looks like a wrench
[19:54:30] <The_Tick> under the web hosting column
[19:54:37] <dmd> yah. i had fastcgi enabled from there
[19:54:42] <The_Tick> kk
[19:54:45] <dmd> when i turn it off from there, it works
[19:54:48] <dmd> but is MUCH slower
[19:55:37] <dmd> hmm
[19:55:40] <dmd> maybe not all that much slower actually
[19:55:45] <The_Tick> ya
[19:55:54] <dmd> oh wait wtf
[19:55:57] <The_Tick> I run a trac instance or two on dreamhost
[19:56:00] <The_Tick> it's slow no matter what
[19:56:03] <dmd> it's sending me to index.fcgi still
[19:56:20] <The_Tick> did you follow natmasters howto for setting up trac?
[19:56:34] <dmd> i followed whatever instructions were on the dreamhost wiki
[19:56:42] <The_Tick> oh that's.. bad
[19:56:45] <The_Tick> http://natmaster.com/articles/installing_trac.php
[19:56:56] <The_Tick> and http://natmaster.com/articles/installing_trac_0.10.php
[19:57:07] <The_Tick> look at those, see if anything makes sense for your environment
[19:57:27] <dmd> oh duh
[19:57:30] <dmd> DirectoryIndex
[19:57:51] <The_Tick> ooh, the new lexus can parrellel park for you
[19:58:05] * The_Tick spends 200grand on it
[19:58:14] <dmd> natmaster's seems to be pretty much the same as what i did
[19:58:27] <dmd> ok fixing directoryindex did it, now i'm on index.cgi, and i have fastcgi turned off
[19:58:32] <dmd> and the error seems to have gone away nicely
[19:58:39] <The_Tick> ya, then it's fastcgi
[19:58:43] <The_Tick> put in a ticket via the panel
[19:58:48] <The_Tick> their svn/trac guy is awesome
[19:58:54] <The_Tick> ask him to give it a look
[19:59:05] <dmd> ok
[19:59:08] <dmd> i took a screenshot
[19:59:11] <dmd> and i have logs
[19:59:12] <The_Tick> cool
[19:59:15] <dmd> so hopefully that'll help :)
[19:59:23] <The_Tick> I'd also setup a test directory
[19:59:28] <The_Tick> with a .htaccess in that
[19:59:33] <The_Tick> and just point him at that
[19:59:41] <The_Tick> with the fastcgi stuff
[20:04:19] <dmd> ok, ticket submtted
[20:06:54] <dmd> thanks!
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[20:22:51] <somervil> hey, I noticed that the tracWebAdmin plugin easy install isnt working... apparently http://www.python.org/pypi/TracWebAdmin/ no longer exists... anyone know a work around ?
[20:26:21] <prologic> install from svn
[20:29:14] <coderanger> Or the packages on the WebAdmin page
[20:29:18] <coderanger> @wiki WebAdmin
[20:29:18] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin
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[22:45:50] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by daybreaker12@gmail.com <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers> || TracUsers edited by daybreaker12@gmail.com <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
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[23:44:54] <Nickname> How can I use svn version of Trac? If I install it - how would i synchronize?
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[23:48:41] <mayo> hello
[23:51:28] <mayo> i've been trying to figure this out for a while, but with no luck .. i'm trying to make the login module the default handler while using the AccountManager plugin, so when somebody goes to the trac page, they are presented with login rather than wiki or anything else. I've setup the permission so that the default is none, and the wiki permission error is kinda annoying
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[23:54:04] <pioto> hi, anyone have any suggesions as to why http://example.com/browser doesn't work, but http://example.com/browser/browser does? i'm using fcgi w/ lighttpd
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[23:54:40] <pioto> specifically, http://creandus.pioto.org
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[23:54:56] <coderanger> pioto: Known lighty bug, no good workaround
[23:55:03] <pioto> eww
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[23:55:23] <pioto> i worked around every other lighty issue so far... oh well
[23:55:25] <coderanger> a) HTTP proxy to tracd (bad solution)
[23:55:34] <coderanger> b) Use tracd in SCGI mode with mod_scgi
[23:56:01] <coderanger> c) Patch the source a bit to hardcode SCRIPT_NAME as ''
[23:56:12] <pioto> ya, tracd is about as robust as... well, it isn't very stable
[23:56:27] <pioto> unless you only have like 3 people using it
[23:56:38] <coderanger> its stable as all get out, just low throughput
[23:56:50] <coderanger> but SCGI mode is no better or worse than FCGI
[23:57:01] <pioto> when i was using it as the main front end, at least, it was crashing every hour
[23:57:03] <coderanger> You will ned to install flup for that though
[23:57:15] <coderanger> pioto: How many concurrent users?
[23:57:26] <coderanger> And what kind of crash
[23:58:01] <pioto> just dies, (i assume segfault, since it didn't ever log anything about its death even w/ debug logging on)
[23:58:17] <pioto> anyways, for the main trac i run, fcgi works beautifully
[23:58:38] <pioto> but for this little one for my little project, i guess i choose a weird way to set it up
[23:58:54] <pioto> i'll just put it at /trac and put a redirect rule in
[23:59:03] <coderanger> Thats the way the lighty fols do it
[23:59:10] <coderanger> which is kind of lame
[23:59:21] <mayo> or you could use the multiple project setup, that way you don't really notice it
[23:59:22] <pioto> ya, i'd rather have it "just work"
[23:59:23] <mayo> :)
[23:59:34] <pioto> but i don't know enough python to properly patch trac if that's the need
[23:59:42] <pioto> and i don't know enough about lighttpd to fix it
[23:59:43] <coderanger> pioto: There is a bug on t