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March 19, 2007

[00:24:56] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #1299 (defect closed): filter component list per milestone when raising a new ticket <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1299#comment:8> || Ticket #2629 (enhancement closed): Only retarget "open" tickets when deleting a milestone <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2629#comment:4>
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[00:55:05] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #3746 (enhancement closed): Groupable components <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3746#comment:1> || Ticket #4316 (task closed): Provide a Component "framework" within trac.edgewall.org <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4316#comment:8> || Ticket #2966 (defect closed): Component not registered <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2966#comment:5>
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[01:55:26] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #1922 (defect closed): Report page doesn't resize well for smaller width <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1922#comment:2> || Ticket #1774 (enhancement closed): Optionally force https:// protocol when logged in <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1774#comment:4> || Ticket #1756 (enhancement closed): SQL Query format output on custom query page <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1756#comment:7> || Ticket #1605 (defect closed): Conflicting styles in stylesheets <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1605#comment:2> || Ticket #1509 (defect closed): wrapping of ticket description results in too narrow columns <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1509#comment:3> || Ticket #299 (enhancement closed): Make installable on a shared (virtual) server <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/299#comment:4>
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[02:25:34] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #3471 (defect closed): cannot start a transaction within a transaction <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3471#comment:2>
[02:39:57] <aidehua> My colleagues have just responded to me via email about a bug I opened in my Trac.
[02:40:12] <aidehua> I wish they could "cc:" Trac, so that their comments appeared on the ticket.
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[02:41:28] <aidehua> I think I could probably hack up some additions to http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/contrib/emailfilter.py that could do this for me :)
[02:41:56] <aidehua> Ah: /me finds something on trac-hacks that does this.
[02:42:21] <coderanger> YEah, email2trac
[02:43:35] <aidehua> Oh my goodness -- it uses autoconf.
[02:45:14] <coderanger> Yeah, its not terribly pythonic, but it gets the job done
[02:46:49] <aidehua> Brilliant: I see from the source that it looks for bug numbers in in the Subject:. That's the functionality I wanted :)
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[03:25:53] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5075]: VcRefactoring: fix typos <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5075>
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[03:56:03] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5077]: VcRefactoring/Controller?: handle xhr at the level of the RequestProcessor <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5077> || Changeset [5076]: VcRefactoring: Merged revisions log:trunk@4967-5075 via svnmerge <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5076>
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[05:12:11] <greg_72> hi I've disabled the trac login module to use the accountmanager login module. now I cannot log in. What can I do? I've edited trac.ini to have trac.web.auth.loginmodule = enabled and restarted lighttpd but that did not help
[05:13:57] <coderanger> You mean disabled
[05:14:08] <coderanger> do you have acct_mgr.* = enabled
[05:16:29] <greg_72> I have http://pastebin.ca/401464
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[05:18:37] <coderanger> http://pastebin.ca/401468
[05:18:42] <coderanger> Thats what you should have
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[05:57:25] <greg_72> coderanger: now I have it but I cannot log in. Is there anything else I should do other than restarting lighttpd?
[05:57:39] <coderanger> do you get the login form?
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[05:57:58] <greg_72> no
[05:58:27] <coderanger> Do you see acct_mgr loading in the log?
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[06:22:32] <andrew__> Can trac be setup to use more than one subversion repository, or would I need a separate trac install for each SVN repo I wanted to integrate?
[06:22:43] * andrew__ has checked FAQ and didn't find anything about this
[06:24:19] <coderanger> No
[06:24:27] <coderanger> One Trac for one repo
[06:26:31] <andrew__> thanks
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[06:38:20] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: ping
[06:38:27] <coderanger> yo
[06:38:45] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: do you know how i can find out via pkg_resources if a package (as string) is loaded from an egg or from the filesystem?
[06:39:14] <mitsuhiko> using __import__ and checking for __loader__ seems like a bad idea
[06:39:32] <coderanger> Not from pkg_resources, but do "'.egg' in module.__file__" and it should tell you
[06:41:05] <mitsuhiko> coderanger: then i better go with the __loader__ way
[06:41:10] <mitsuhiko> both require importing
[06:41:26] <coderanger> Yes
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[06:41:40] <coderanger> I don't think there is any way to ask 'where would you import this from'
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[06:42:21] <coderanger> (really need to stop staying up until 10AM)
[06:44:10] <andrew__> has anyone here successfully ran the bugzilla to trac converter script against bugzilla v2.20.1 ?
[06:44:38] <andrew__> script says it's only tested against <=2.19.x
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[07:06:36] <greg_72> I see that coderanger has quit, but is there anybody else who could help me in making accountmanager's login form work? http://www.pastebin.ca/401608
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[07:11:53] <sineer> hello!
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[07:20:48] <sineer> Anyone knows if there a "backport" of the NewWorkflow (with QA 'verified' ticket status) to trac 10.3 branch ?
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[07:24:32] <retracile> sineer: nope. You can pull the old branch and try that if you want. Look at the WorkFlow page (instead of the NewWorkFlow page)
[07:26:48] <sineer> retracile, oh, support for custom ticket status was already built-in? its just that the NewWorkFlow adopted the verified 'stage' as a default model now?
[07:29:23] <retracile> sineer: Ignore the NewWorkflow page. Look at the WorkFlow page.
[07:29:49] <retracile> sineer: If you want something that might work with 0.10, look at the "Previous Version" section of the WorkFlow page.
[07:35:15] <sineer> ok, I will.. thanks. I have another question :) Related to the [ticket-custom] type if input widget one can use... I would like to use a combobox with possibly some simple info hardcoded in the trac.ini separated by a , ... anyone know if this is supported? I tried but my custom ticket attribute didn't show up when its type was set to checkbox (so I'm thinking its not supported but I haven't digged in the code yet)
[07:36:24] <retracile> sineer: The old branch is unsupported... I'm working on the new stuff for 0.11, but I don't remember the details of how things worked in the previous version. Read the source, Luke. ;)
[07:36:49] <sineer> cool :) I will. Thanks retracile
[07:37:46] <retracile> Anyone using the Doxygen plugin on a publicly-accessible trac site? I'd like to take a quick look at one...
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[07:38:57] <sineer> I use it but its not public trac site :( I had to tweak it to work (especially the search that were broken) but it works well..
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[07:39:57] <sineer> I even had bitten to run my Dox SCons generating scripts upon commits to update the dox... but then the company code base exploded and because I haven't had the time to write a SCons script generator I can't keep up and its down for now :(
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[07:40:22] <retracile> I'm assuming it's readonly, right? Any support for adding comments on the wiki or anything?
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[07:40:42] <sineer> no support for that.
[07:40:56] <sineer> it uses the generated html pages from doxygen
[07:41:11] <retracile> 'k.
[07:41:14] <retracile> Thanks.
[07:41:16] <sineer> in fact I had to write another script that feed all that html 4.0 generated by doxugen to utidy to convert to xhtml...
[07:41:40] <sineer> so accents would come up fine.. I also had to tweak the doxyfile to use my TracHeader and TracFooter.html of course...
[07:42:27] <sineer> It would be great of someone would have the time to write an improved doxygen plugin :) Alot about it could be improved... even though it work
[07:46:30] <retracile> Thanks for the info, sineer.
[07:51:31] <Testbaudson> hello, I have a question about creating reports
[07:51:36] <Testbaudson> I checked http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracReports but didn't find what I was looking for
[07:51:42] <Testbaudson> I want to retrieve all issues created after a certain date
[07:51:48] <Testbaudson> what is the correct where-condition?
[07:51:54] <Testbaudson> any help is highly appreciated
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[07:53:05] <Konfuzius> hiho
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[07:54:54] <Konfuzius> am having a slight problem with the tracForge Plugin, it keeps telling me for an environment upgrade but when I try to do an upgrade I get this one "Database is up to date, no upgrade necessary."
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[07:56:21] <Konfuzius> i've got trac version 0.10.3.1 and tracForge is latest'n'gratest from svn
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[08:00:03] <techie_> Where can I get plain SQL file for Trac database?
[08:01:44] <Konfuzius> what about a dump from a fresh initenv?
[08:03:20] <techie_> I need to reimport the data I have from existing environment. Should I made the same name for initenv?
[08:03:49] <techie_> The same path?
[08:04:40] <Konfuzius> sounds like a rollback from a backup
[08:04:49] <aidehua> I have trac on one machine and my Subversion repository on another.
[08:05:03] <aidehua> Has anyone here any experience with NFS mounting Subversion repositories?
[08:05:46] <aidehua> I wouldn't expect to be able to check into the NFS mounted repository, but it would be good to have a read-only version for Trac to use :)
[08:06:42] <aidehua> Hmmm. I should shutmymouf until *after* I've googled.
[08:06:55] * aidehua finds loads of useful resources on that "web" thing :)
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[08:12:20] <techie_> Konfuzius: It is worse. I have to convert my tables collation to UTF-8 and while reimporting backed up database MySQL complians about PRIMARY KEY ( `type` ( 166 ) , `id` ( 166 ) , `filename` ( 166 ) ) -- #1071 - Specified key was too long; max key length is 1024 bytes
[08:13:23] <Konfuzius> hmm, I had this error too
[08:13:40] <Konfuzius> installed trac/svn now on a second machine and error is gone
[08:14:07] <Konfuzius> but I switched back to sqlite on the "new" box
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[08:15:43] <retracile> techie_: That's a limitation in MySQL. Use sqlite or postgres
[08:16:18] <glacialfury> Morning: does trac support automatic uploading of images to a page? Or does the user need to set up a directory somewhere and reference it?
[08:16:28] <glacialfury> I see the [[Image:blah.png]] tag
[08:16:34] <glacialfury> but where are those images stored?
[08:17:42] <techie_> retracile: I do not have enough resources run another database on this machine. I still would like to see SQLite.
[08:17:52] <techie_> BTW, initenv fails with utf-8 database.
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[08:20:09] <retracile> techie_: MySQL has a key length limit that's too short for a full path in your repo. You'll have to use either sqlite or postgresql.
[08:25:08] <techie_> retracile: I am using MySQL 4.x - seems like other Trac running on MySQL 5.x doesn't have this problem. It may be the better solution to port one base to SQLite, than all others to new MySQL.
[08:25:55] <Datax> hi all
[08:26:53] <retracile> techie_: I don't know if they removed the key size limit on 5.x... I'm not a MySQL expert.
[08:27:20] <Datax> I've been messing with trac for a few days now. I've got it working with multiple repositories but need some help to figure out how to set the permissions
[08:27:48] <Datax> i'd like to be able to limit reading and writing permissions per user per repository
[08:28:06] <retracile> techie_: But the thing to be aware of is that the problem will show up based on the length of the longest pathname in your svn repository.
[08:28:06] <Datax> some users will have access to multiple repositories
[08:28:29] <Datax> is there a simple way of managing these kinds of needs ? how can I do it ?
[08:28:47] <retracile> Datax: reading & writing to the repository itself? That's a subversion config thing.
[08:29:22] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4972 (defect created): Repository.close() not called / cleanup mechanism <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4972>
[08:30:07] <Datax> yes it is, currently I use .htpasswd authenfication so that users that have an account on trac can also access the repositories but it isn't good enough. currently anyone with an account on trac can write on the repositories.
[08:31:06] <retracile> Datax: Right, you need to configure subversion to enforce more specific restrictions.
[08:32:05] <Datax> retracile: I read a bit about SVNPathAuthz but couldn't find enough info about it to learn anything much. Most of what I found was telling people to turn it off to improve web server performance :s
[08:32:24] <Datax> retracile: perhaps SVNPathAuthz isn't what I need at all ... I just don't know enough about it
[08:33:02] <techie_> retracile: Seems like there are no restriction now. I will wait for tthe bug to appear. =) Sorry, gotta go now. c'ya
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[08:33:30] <retracile> Datax: Look at svn's svnperms.py tool.
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[08:33:51] <retracile> techie_: 'k. Good luck.
[08:33:53] <Datax> retracile: ok
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[08:43:55] <Datax> retracile: Do you know of a web interface that would allow me to manage permissions like I want to ?
[08:45:40] <retracile> Datax: Not off the top of my head... but I haven't looked for one. You might try #svn...
[08:45:53] <Datax> ok thanks for the tip
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[08:47:07] <Khalsa> Hi!
[08:48:29] <Khalsa> I was wondering if trac is able to allow me to (or can be made to) edit files in svn via a web browser?
[08:48:57] <retracile> Khalsa: Nope; it treats the repository as read-only.
[08:49:36] <Khalsa> do you guys know anyway I could do that?
[08:50:37] <retracile> Khalsa: Look into writing a plugin, and extending the version control backend to support write operations.... etc.
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[08:55:45] <Khalsa> Thanks for the quick answers!
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[09:31:09] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4973 (defect created): Don't throw away user's work if error occurs during 'Submit' <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4973> || Changeset [5082]: VcRefactoring/Controller: move the AnyDiffModule at the end of the file <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5082>
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[09:57:50] <glacialfury> How do you attach files to a wiki page?
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[10:00:10] <glacialfury> anyone?
[10:00:11] <retracile> With the [Attach File] button on the bottom of the page...
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[10:00:40] <glacialfury> There is no [Attach File] button on the bottom of the page...
[10:01:11] <glacialfury> I've seen it on the ticket submission pages, but not on the wiki
[10:01:43] <glacialfury> I need to upload images to the wiki for a wiki page
[10:01:51] <retracile> glacialfury: Then you don't have the needed permission.
[10:02:03] <glacialfury> I'll look into that, thank you.
[10:04:35] <glacialfury> That fixed it, thank you.
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[10:25:30] <alect> morning
[10:28:34] <pacopablo> morning
[10:30:34] <alect> hey paco
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[10:40:24] <cboos> howdy guys
[10:41:01] <alect> hey cboos
[10:41:14] <cboos> how's trac-hacks doing... still running 0.10.4dev?
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[10:43:22] <cboos> hm, looks like I asked the wrong question, my firefox crashed ;-)
[10:43:48] <mitsuhiko> .oO( where's matt? )
[10:46:48] <alect> cboos: yeah, i haven't noticed any tracebacks, nor had any reports
[10:47:07] <cboos> well, but the spurious autoresyncs are still there apparently
[10:47:28] <cboos> coderanger sent me some logs on friday, where I saw them
[10:47:40] <cboos> (once or twice per day)
[10:48:00] <cboos> I added some more specific debug log information when this happens
[10:48:21] <cboos> and at the same time reduce the overall verbosity of the sync
[10:48:44] <cboos> (no more systematic output, but only when there's something "interesting")
[10:49:00] <cboos> ... so it could be worth to upgrade again
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[10:55:48] <alect> ok
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[11:02:02] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4974 (defect closed): search error on reflect damage <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4974#comment:1> || Ticket #4974 (defect created): search error on reflect damage <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4974>
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[11:08:54] <Shidan> Hi I would like to fully disable anonymous user access on trac
[11:08:57] <Shidan> how can I do that
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[11:10:20] <retracile> Shidan: remove permisssions from the anonymous user; see http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions
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[11:12:03] <Shidan> Oh ok, it would be nice if there was a setting that would allow you to do that instead of doing it for each action
[11:12:32] <Shidan> oh i see a '*' i take that back
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[12:13:24] <retracile> alect: *ping*
[12:17:19] <asmodai> pong!
[12:17:22] <alect> hi
[12:17:44] <asmodai> alec!!!!!!!!!
[12:18:01] <asmodai> alect: Did you watch the Sussman poisonous people talk?
[12:20:42] <retracile> alect: I modified the workflow API again... I kept get_ticket_changes(), but added apply_ticket_side_effects(). This keeps the preview vs real action logic out of all the plugins, while providing for the functionality you were after, I think. Thoughts
[12:20:43] <retracile> ?
[12:31:30] <alect> sussman talk...nope
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[12:34:00] <asmodai> alect: http://video.google.com/url?docid=-4216011961522818645&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=poisonous+people&vidurl=http://video.google.com/videoplay%3Fdocid%3D-4216011961522818645%26q%3Dpoisonous%2Bpeople&usg=AL29H21V0w5wExfzfT8wks0Xz3uiKrRtmg
[12:34:04] <asmodai> grrr
[12:34:07] <asmodai> moment
[12:34:10] <asmodai> bitch ass urls
[12:34:18] <asmodai> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4216011961522818645
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[12:34:49] <alect> retracile: cool. i still personally think it's unnecessary though. the 'preview' in req.args pattern used everywhere else, seems fine to me
[12:34:52] <asmodai> alect: we needed that talk before dealing with Ilias
[12:35:05] <alect> aah, i have heard of this talk yeah
[12:35:10] <alect> haven't seen it though
[12:35:39] <thm> Hi, leslie ! :)
[12:35:49] <retracile> alect: 'k. Followup question:
[12:35:53] <asmodai> alect: Worth it!
[12:36:17] <retracile> alect: I've added the ability for get_ticket_changes() to return a description of the side_effects the action will have.
[12:36:49] <retracile> alect: For instance, "This ticket will be deleted", or "abc@example.com will be emailed" or whatever is appropriate.
[12:37:37] <retracile> alect: But I suspect there is a better way of using that in the template. Right now, it just inserts whatever it's given before the ticket preview.
[12:37:48] <retracile> alect: Any suggestions?
[12:38:25] <alect> you should document the format of the return value, that wasn't clear from the docstring
[12:38:35] <alect> but apart from that...it sounds okay to me
[12:39:19] <retracile> I'll clarify the docstring.
[12:39:39] <alect> i
[12:39:55] <alect> 've looked at it. i think it's a reasonable solution
[12:40:08] <alect> are you stacking the descriptions?
[12:40:35] <alect> hmm
[12:41:16] <retracile> I smashed them together with tag(*descriptions)... but there's probably a better way of doing that.
[12:41:29] <alect> line 335 should probably be an OrderedExtensionOption
[12:41:33] <alect> (as an aside)
[12:41:50] <alect> yeah, probably a <ul>
[12:41:57] <alect> with an id="something"
[12:42:46] <alect> as i was told it would
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[12:43:45] <retracile> alect: "as i was told it would" ?
[12:44:20] <alect> wrong window :)
[12:44:27] <retracile> Ah. :)
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[12:51:55] <retracile> alect: updated the doc string, and changed to using an <ul>
[12:54:22] <asmodai> it's a hard-knock life
[12:54:58] <alect> forrrrrrrrrr me
[12:54:59] <alect> lala
[12:55:22] <alect> looks good
[12:56:14] <retracile> alect: Now, about the OrderedExtensionOption... hrm...
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[12:57:19] <retracile> alect: for the most part, the order won't matter... actions in the list are explicitly sorted, for instance. But yeah, I can see things not playing well together.
[13:02:34] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5091]: WorkFlow: Use an unordered list instead of just concatenating. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5091> || Changeset [5090]: WorkFlow: Clarify the return value in the doc string. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5090>
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[13:16:38] <asmodai> alect: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/apollo/
[13:16:41] <asmodai> alect: saw that?
[13:17:33] <alect> yeah
[13:17:41] <alect> and by "cross-platform" they mean mac and windows
[13:18:22] <asmodai> heh
[13:19:07] <asmodai> makes XUL more appealing
[13:22:52] <asmodai> mmm
[13:22:56] <asmodai> it also depends on Flash
[13:22:59] <asmodai> making it suck even more
[13:23:22] <thm> is this a bug: "Component.config.get("mysection", "myoption", None)" doesn't return None, even when the ini file doesn't contain that option ?
[13:31:01] <alect> what does it do?
[13:31:09] <alect> throw an exception?
[13:31:29] <thm> returning ''
[13:31:45] <alect> ah. yes, that is intentional
[13:31:55] <alect> though, personally, i think it's a bug
[13:32:00] <thm> what is the third argument for, then?
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[13:32:42] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5092]: WorkFlow: Fix really dumb bug that would delete tickets unconditionally. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5092>
[13:32:42] <thomas_> Hi. I'm trying to find some python module that allows me to take a code file, look at a set of line numbers in it, and tell me which method/function/... is being edited
[13:32:54] <thomas_> trac uses silvercity, adn I am trying to figure out if silvercity can let me do this
[13:32:55] <thomas_> any ideas ?
[13:33:13] <alect> thm: it's a default, but None is automatically converted to ''
[13:33:25] <alect> thm: eg. get("foo", "bar", "waz")
[13:34:24] <thm> the last q was a bit rhetorical. if I put None for default, I expect to get None if it's not there. how can I distinguish between a non-existent or an empty config value?
[13:34:45] <thm> I think I'll file a ticket
[13:35:48] <alect> good idea
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[14:01:52] <clee> hey, guys. is there any way to get trac to work with TRAC_ENV_PARENT_DIR serving out of '/'?
[14:02:16] <clee> (not '/' on the server fs, but the root on the webserver's URL)
[14:02:48] <clee> for example, I have svn.c133.org set up, using Apache, and I want to go to http://svn.c133.org/ and see the list of projects (which works)
[14:02:49] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4975 (defect closed): cannot import name TracError <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4975#comment:2> || Ticket #4976 (defect created): Unhandled EPIPE Exception in _fcgi.py <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4976> || Ticket #4975 (defect created): cannot import name TracError <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4975>
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