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March 30, 2007

[00:12:23] <gordonjcp> what a polite chap
[00:12:33] <gordonjcp> wonder if he realised it's still early in the morning
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[00:18:26] <danderson> gordonjcp: he could always demand a refund of his completely free software I guess
[00:18:39] <gordonjcp> totally
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[00:32:25] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracPermissions edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions>
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[00:33:22] <force> g'day
[00:33:29] <force> i'm having a few issues with trac
[00:34:01] <force> [Fri Mar 30 15:58:59 2007] [notice] mod_fcgid: process /usr/share/trac/cgi-bin/t
[00:34:01] <force> rac.fcgi(5442) exit(server exited), terminated by calling exit(), return code: 2
[00:34:02] <force> 55
[00:34:48] <force> this is an error i'm receiving while connecting to the aliased directory /dev
[00:35:05] <force> the error is from the apache error.log file
[00:35:37] <force> i compiled trac using the latest stable source tar, and fastcgi using the apt-get package
[00:36:32] <force> so can anyone help me with this please?
[00:37:55] <force> i'll pastebin the configs
[00:38:55] <force> http://pastebin.ca/416413 - that is the /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default file
[00:44:54] <force> uh, i have to go i'll be back later, if you're kind enough to look at this and have a solution or something, please email me.. force@bur.st
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[02:30:22] <_techie> Does anybody know why mod_python crashes on win with Python 2.4.4 ?
[02:33:02] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5061 (defect closed): traceback when trying to attach image file to ticket <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5061#comment:2>
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[02:41:52] <intgr> _techie: Crashes how?
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[02:49:33] <intgr> For some reason, when doing a request for ?user=x, my plugin receives a req.args consisting of {'user': None}
[02:50:04] <intgr> Oh, silly, I'm overwriting it in match_request :)
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[03:03:11] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracOnWindows/Python2.5 edited by salmira@mail.com <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnWindows/Python2.5>
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[03:51:48] <KaldenFr> hi everybody i've a problem with my trac projet
[03:51:59] <KaldenFr> need help
[03:52:14] <KaldenFr> y use apache+trac+graphviz-plugin
[03:52:52] <KaldenFr> when i'm in lan i see graphviz pictures but when i use web access i can't see graphviz pictures in trac
[03:53:04] <KaldenFr> anybody can help me ?
[03:56:13] <KaldenFr> any admin ?
[03:56:45] <KaldenFr> _techie, can you help me ?
[03:58:04] <KaldenFr> AllenJB, can you help me ?
[04:11:35] <force> i am still waiting for help :/
[04:11:43] <force> it's been like 3 and half hours
[04:11:50] <force> and no one has said anything or recommended anything
[04:11:55] <force> common guys
[04:12:01] <force> you must have some input
[04:12:06] <force> anything
[04:17:09] <bagu> look, nobody is ignoring anyone here, maybe somebody that does have input shows up. there are many timezones around the globe you know.
[04:17:47] <force> i didn't intend to imply that you were
[04:18:10] <bagu> i didn't take it as an insult, either.. so that's fine =)
[04:18:31] <force> http://pastebin.ca/416642
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[04:18:42] <bagu> irc is like this at times..
[04:19:01] <force> ah yeah i've used it for 8 years :\
[04:19:29] <force> actually 6 really full on
[04:19:36] <force> sort of spaced out there
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[04:20:02] <force> but i am yet to meet someone without an opinion
[04:20:09] <force> and i would like yours
[04:20:12] <force> in regards to this problem
[04:21:31] <bagu> really don't know.. try enabling more debugging on apache
[04:21:50] <bagu> so you can see the full transaction perhaps
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[04:21:56] <force> alright :D good suggestion
[04:21:58] <force> thanks
[04:22:15] <bagu> sure
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[04:24:23] <force> uh
[04:24:28] <force> and as a result of you helping me
[04:24:31] <force> i have fix it
[04:24:32] <force> LOL
[04:24:41] <force> cool now i'm happy. YOU HAVE MADE ME HAPPY!
[04:24:45] <force> :) cya
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[04:25:34] <danderson> so, I'm looking around for l10n for trac. According to the official wiki, l10n is put off until 1.0, but unofficial efforts exist. Any idea where I could find those?
[04:35:41] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracIniReportCustomFieldSample edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIniReportCustomFieldSample> || TracIniReportCustomFieldSample edited by matthias.brod@googlemail.com <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIniReportCustomFieldSample> || TracIniReportCustomFieldSample edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIniReportCustomFieldSample>
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[05:05:50] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracDownload edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDownload>
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[06:13:08] <_techie> intgr: Sorry, was afk. mod_python with Python 2.4.4 make Apache crash out completely with minidump and the need to relaunch server.
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[06:36:20] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: MySqlDb edited by techtonik <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MySqlDb>
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[07:30:25] <joel_> Hey..here's a good question.. what DOES "TRAC" stand for??? :)
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[07:37:20] <nod> tracking stuff w/o the "king" ?
[07:37:32] <nod> oh, he left
[07:38:43] <retracile> *shrug* I don't see it written "TRAC", I see it written "Trac" or "trac", so I figured it didn't "stand" for anything.
[07:39:41] <danderson> I don't think it stands for anything. I just assumed it was a play on words based on its function: you use it to track the evolution of your project.
[07:40:01] <coderanger> The name is based on CvsTrac
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[07:46:42] <coderanger> I still don't know where people get the 'TRAC' from, I've never seen it capitalized in anything remotely official
[07:46:59] <danderson> happens everywhere
[07:47:08] <danderson> Subversion also gets shortened to SVN
[07:47:18] <danderson> much to the annoyance of svn devs :)
[07:48:03] <retracile> Yeah, I don't know where they get it either. My boss did it in his slides... and I can't figure out why.
[07:54:37] <coderanger> SVN is from CVS
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[08:05:34] <danderson> Concurrent Versions System -> Super Versionning Nachos?...
[08:05:53] <retracile> heh. :)
[08:05:55] <coderanger> I just mean the 3 caps
[08:06:15] <idnar> what's wrong with SVN?
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[08:06:24] <idnar> SubVersioN
[08:06:29] <idnar> *duck*
[08:06:51] <coderanger> idnar: The devs prefer the full name, no one else cares
[08:06:59] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: VcRefactoring/Controller edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/VcRefactoring/Controller> || VcRefactoring/Controller edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/VcRefactoring/Controller> || Changeset [5155]: VcRefactoring/Controller quick fix: posargc adjusted to skip 'self' <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5155>
[08:07:01] <coderanger> but its hard for TRAC to stand for Trac
[08:07:41] <idnar> indeed
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[09:16:07] <fincher> I'm writing a wikimacro that needs information from a trac ticket. Is there any helper function to get a Ticket object from the database, or will I need to do the query myself?
[09:16:46] <nod> i can't answer your question, but i do have another question inspired by your question "Aren't macros deprecated in favor of plugins?"
[09:17:14] <fincher> nod: macros are a syntactical feature, I'm pretty sure they're sticking around; how you package them seems to be changing, though.
[09:17:22] <fincher> (which is unfortunate, plugins are harder to make than old-style macros)
[09:17:34] <nod> fincher: agreed!
[09:19:01] <retracile> Use WikiMacroBase... that should help...
[09:27:40] <coderanger> fincher: trac.ticket.model.Ticket
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[10:09:27] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4915 (task closed): google summer of code proposal <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4915#comment:4> || Ticket #5062 (task created): Otro ejemplo <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5062>
[10:13:38] <pacopablo> fincher: they aren't much harder, especially since you can create single file plugins.
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[10:13:58] <pacopablo> so it turns out to be a few more lines of code, but you don't have to bother with creating a setup.py, etc
[10:14:21] <pacopablo> and subclassing WikiMacroBase makes writing macros even easier
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[10:25:55] <brosner> i have subversion setup using apache. i use a authz file to limit users to repositories. i have trac.domain.com/reponame setup for tracs using apache. i saw that trac ini can accept the authz_file, but what exactly will it do. i didn't see any documentation on it. will this effectively make it so the users i defined to repos in the authz file not be able to access the other tracs?
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[10:33:12] <coderanger> It does the same thing as the authz file in subversion
[10:33:25] <coderanger> just enforces the read permissions in the browser
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[10:36:46] <brosner> ah so if i didnt want sally to see a branch in the browser it would know that based on the authz file?
[10:39:36] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5051 (defect created): On enter in "RoadMap" OR "new Ticket" <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5051>
[10:39:43] <andre_papaya> hi everybody...
[10:40:59] <andre_papaya> after just having installed trac (and having read the manuals :-) I still have some questions upon the organization of projects/components - is there anybody who has 2 minutes for me?
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[11:10:37] <birlcathy> hi all, does any1 know if the 0.9.7 version fixes the bug in 0.9.6 for trac?
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[11:16:03] <coderanger> There was a 0.9.7?
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[11:24:50] <birlcathy> aCK! I'm a dork
[11:25:05] <birlcathy> this is in regards to SilverCity
[11:25:21] <birlcathy> and there is a 0.9.7 11/23/06
[11:25:59] <coderanger> use pygments
[11:26:02] <coderanger> :P
[11:26:21] <birlcathy> coderanger: pygments is happy in 0.10 trac? I didn't see that on the install page.
[11:26:40] <coderanger> you need the pygmentsplugin from trac-hacks
[11:27:46] <birlcathy> coderanger: okies I can do that.. since I have to install SOMETHING (upgrading trac 0.8 -> .10) which means py2.2 has to upgrade as well.. :)
[11:28:02] <birlcathy> any ideas how bad the DB changes are?
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[11:38:28] <Ap0s7le> Hey all, quick question. Anyone hosting with Pair.com?
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[11:43:13] <coderanger> Ap0s7le: Wrong chan
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[12:08:34] <Ap0s7le> coderanger, Isn't this channel for Trac? If so, then I think I've got it right. I was wanting to install it on Pair.com, and wanted to know if anyone else was using them etc.
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[12:42:11] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: CommercialServices edited by glarkin@sourcehosting.net <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/CommercialServices>
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[13:12:22] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5063 (enhancement created): [PATCH] Timeline Author Style Span <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5063>
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[13:42:30] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracStandalone edited by jtw90210 <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracStandalone>
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[13:50:12] <fincher> heh
[13:50:25] * fincher didn't notice the Supybot in here when he joined.
[13:54:00] <retracile> fincher; yeah evil_twin's not too bright, but he can be useful.
[13:54:33] <fincher> is the TracBot plugin publicly released?
[13:55:11] <retracile> I think pacopablo is responsible for that... I don't remember its availability.
[13:56:02] <fincher> ah, it has been.
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[14:19:31] <otavio> Can someone see if this traceback http://paste.debian.net/24729 is a know bug?
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[14:25:47] <mitsuhiko> fincher: i guess it's just the feed plugin for supybot
[14:30:46] <mitsuhiko> anyone here working with the TracMercurial plugin?
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[14:41:12] <pacopablo> and don't blame me for the TracBot ;)
[14:41:19] <pacopablo> it's pretty nice, but not my work
[14:47:25] <nod> i was messing around with tracbot today
[14:47:41] <nod> my stupid supybot won't connect to my trac install for some reason, though
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[14:48:31] <nod> anyone perchance had that problem? I sought help from the supybot devs and got nowhere
[14:49:33] <pacopablo> do you have to authenticate to your trac instance?
[14:49:45] <nod> yep
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[14:49:52] <nod> i included that in the rss feed url
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[14:50:07] <nod> http://User:Pass@example.com/trac/....
[14:50:18] <pacopablo> what kind of auth do you use? apache basic http auth?
[14:50:28] <pacopablo> or ar eyou using accountmanager or digest auth?
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[14:51:09] <nod> hmm let me check
[14:51:27] <nod> digest
[14:51:34] <pacopablo> you have to use basic
[14:51:38] <nod> doh
[14:51:52] <nod> alright, let me try that
[14:59:28] * fizzgig created XMLRPC-plugins to do the announcements, works like a charm.
[14:59:50] <fizzgig> Still have to build the other functions :x
[14:59:55] <nod> well, that didn't change anything
[15:00:05] <nod> fizzgig: mind sharing?
[15:00:13] <fizzgig> it's a nobrainer
[15:00:26] <fizzgig> create an supybot plugin which contains a XMLRPC server
[15:00:37] <fizzgig> and hook up a Trac-plugin with ticket and wiki listeners
[15:00:48] <nod> ahhh...
[15:00:51] * fizzgig looks in his code-directories.
[15:03:06] <fizzgig> ah, found it... let me remove the pieces in Dutch O:)
[15:04:01] <nod> fizzgig: nodsworth@gmail.com if you don't mind :)
[15:04:40] <nod> tracfeed
[15:04:44] <nod> woops :)
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[15:07:44] <nod> i wonder, if instead of creating an xmlrpc server, if it'd be cheaper to just open a fifo since trac and supy runs on the same system
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[15:08:59] <fizzgig> no problem, we use the plugin for all sorts of announcements, so XMLRPC was a simple solution.
[15:09:13] <fizzgig> (coming from different servers)
[15:09:33] <fizzgig> nod: http://stitch.student.utwente.nl/~bpeschier/{supy,trac}-plugin.py
[15:10:13] <fizzgig> not too excellent, but's a fine example of: it works.
[15:10:47] <nod> both gotten. thx!
[15:11:18] <fizzgig> hmmm, trac-plugin is an old one... wont really bother.
[15:11:37] <nod> what's that?
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[15:12:07] <nod> i wonder if trac could hand supy a pickled message via a pipe...
[15:12:22] <fizzgig> oh, it has some strips in excess and it's exception handling is not really... uh.. done.
[15:12:31] <fizzgig> :P
[15:12:48] <nod> ha! i'm all about "just works"
[15:13:15] <nod> this is great, thanks again!
[15:13:20] <fizzgig> np
[15:13:22] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracIni edited by m.trunner@web.de <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni>
[15:13:27] <nod> i'm going to end up using your trac plugin and write my own supybot
[15:14:32] <fizzgig> hehe... I ended up writing all sorts of plugins for Trac, Supy and django... python is great in not getting on your nerves too much :-)
[15:14:44] <nod> zactly!
[15:17:59] <otavio> Can someone see if this traceback http://paste.debian.net/24729 is a know bug?
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[15:53:33] <remiss_> http://pitchfork.remiss.org/wiki <-- hmm.. what's that?
[15:53:53] <remiss_> oh
[15:55:30] <remiss_> that's what you get for never rebooting the server.. *boot correct kernel*
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[16:29:21] <Murmuria> Hi! I wanted to know what license Trac carries...
[16:29:38] <Murmuria> couldnot find this info on the wiki
[16:29:45] <Murmuria> can someone help?
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[16:42:08] <matt_good> Murmuria: BSD
[16:42:35] <Murmuria> matt_good: thanks :)
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[17:07:14] <otavio_> matt_good: Hi there
[17:07:19] <otavio_> matt_good: do you have some time?
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[17:11:00] <matt_good> otavio_: how much?
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[17:36:55] <hoodow> http://rafb.net/p/2wV6Rh50.html can someone tell me why this happens? the database exist and should have the right permissions
[17:36:57] <hoodow> # ls -l /var/trac/moonitor/db/trac.db
[17:36:57] <hoodow> -rw-rw---- 1 root apache 264192 Mar 31 02:17 /var/trac/moonitor/db/trac.db
[17:39:34] <coderanger> Check the folder permissions
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[17:48:41] <fincher> mitsuhiko: yes, I know :)
[17:48:44] <fincher> I wrote that plugin.
[17:49:31] <eddyMul> I installed AccountManagerPlugin using easy_install. Can I use easy_install (--editable?) to apply the diff in http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/1392 and build an egg?
[17:49:55] <coderanger> eddyMul: Just check out the code ...
[17:50:18] <coderanger> Or poke matt_good until he fixes it
[17:51:04] <eddyMul> coderanger: I'll try checking out now (and the poking later). Thanx.
[17:52:31] <fincher> mitsuhiko: do note that you can change the value of the configuration variable supybot.plugins.RSS.announcementPrefix to make it a bit more pertinent.
[17:53:58] <hoodow> coderanger: drw-rw---- 2 root apache 4096 Mar 31 02:17 db
[17:54:23] <coderanger> hoodow: No +x ...
[17:55:02] <hoodow> coderanger: argh, thx
[17:57:16] <otavio_> matt_good: http://paste.debian.net/24729 is a know bug?
[17:57:22] <otavio_> matt_good: not toto much
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[18:01:10] <coderanger> otavio: What version?
[18:15:54] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5064 (defect created): base_url considered harmful (trac accessed via two hostnames) <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5064>
[18:22:54] <otavio> coderanger: today's trunk
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[18:26:05] <coderanger> otavio: cboos has been going to town on the repo sync system, I haven't looked at todays changes though
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