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April 05, 2007

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[00:54:55] <techie_> Why ticket change or comments are not reflected in timeline? How to turn them on?
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[01:18:41] <whereami> Is it possible to set up a really simple SMTP server on the local box for Trac to use for notifications?
[01:20:51] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by Joanna Schmidt <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
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[01:25:17] <asmodai> whereami: I guess you'd wind up with either exim or postfix.
[01:25:22] <asmodai> whereami: unless you can find a nullmailer
[01:41:05] <whereami> asmodai, hmm, okay, i'm trying out postfix..
[02:04:37] <whereami> asmodai, hmm, what do I use for smtp user and password? should I create an account on the box (tracnotify or something)?
[02:18:19] <whereami> nvm, it's working with blank for both.
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[02:51:20] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5078 (enhancement created): Make ticket keyword field optional <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5078> || TracDev/ReleaseNotes/0.11 edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/ReleaseNotes/0.11>
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[04:10:32] <timte> I'm trying trac with subversion 1.1, but trac uses delta.Editor which doesn't seem to be available in that version of svn/swig
[04:11:25] <timte> according to the website it should work with subversion 1.1
[04:13:17] <timte> anyone got a clue?
[04:25:29] <techie_> timte: SVN 1.1 and 1.2 is officially unsupported. http://subversion.tigris.org/svn_1.4_releasenotes.html#svn-1.2-deprecation It will be better to upgrade to 1.4
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[04:34:27] <tamere> Hi there. I've got a problem installing trac with spamfilter plugin under Debian Sid. Spam filter complains about not finding spambayes, but it is installed (with apt-get). Any idea ?
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[04:50:00] <tamere> the exact error message is 'WARNING: Cannot load plugin spamfilter.bayes because it requires "spambayes"'
[04:50:30] <tamere> however it seems I can train the filter...
[04:50:37] <tamere> since the number of ham/spam varies
[04:50:59] <tamere> what could be wrong ?
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[05:04:05] <manuzhai> any devs got a clue on #5094?
[05:04:11] <manuzhai> did I miss some important change?
[05:04:25] <manuzhai> it's a pretty bad bug
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[05:22:08] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5094 (defect created): Wiki editing weird on trunk <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5094>
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[05:31:23] <timte> techie_: I read in another document that 1.1 was supported. Ouch.
[05:31:58] <techie_> timte: Burn it. =)
[05:32:36] <timte> techie_: certainly :)
[05:47:13] <techie_> Is it bug or feature when ticket changes and comments are not shown in timeline?
[05:47:25] <techie_> On 0.10.3
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[06:11:39] <asmodai> IIRC it was a config option
[06:13:52] <techie_> Ahem.. Indeed. Thanks.
[06:15:07] <asmodai> yay
[06:15:09] <asmodai> welcome :)
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[06:17:37] <techie_> Set ticket_show_details = true but it doesn't seem to work. =/
[06:18:00] <techie_> Ok.
[06:18:04] <techie_> Now it works.
[06:18:51] <techie_> I just have to check box "Ticket details" in timeline.
[06:19:24] <techie_> BTW, what is the difference between "Ticket changes" and "Ticket details" in timeline checkboxes?
[06:22:34] <joel> pacopablo - are you there today? To answer your question, yes I have an Account Manager section
[06:24:09] <joel> ok.guess not so anyone out there can help???
[06:24:10] <joel> When I add users with the WebAdmin plugin - it's not updating the password file and allowing the user to log in.
[06:31:49] <tamere> joel: check permissions
[06:31:57] <tamere> joel: on the password file
[06:32:45] <joel> it's writable
[06:33:13] <tamere> is it writable by the user your web server executes trac as ?
[06:36:51] <joel> humm strange, i can log in, and have admin permissions, but in the user list I am not there. How can that be???
[06:37:21] <joel> but there under permissions, but not under users.
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[06:41:18] <tamere> joel: this happened to me 30 minutes ago when installing : the path to the htdigest file didn't match the one containing the admin user
[06:41:57] <tamere> see /accounts/admin/config
[06:42:52] <joel> mine matches the path
[06:43:17] <tamere> then besides a permission problem somewhere up the path, I don't know, sorry
[06:43:54] <joel> does it need to be a url path or a file path ie www.trac.com/path/to/file or d:\path\to\file
[06:44:27] <tamere> file path
[06:44:58] <joel> ok then i'm good with that. anyother ideas?
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[07:06:40] <joel> hey Coderanger, you there?
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[07:52:56] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracTesti/AlaSivu edited by kotikatu@helka.net <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTesti/AlaSivu> || TracTesti:a edited by kotikatu@helka.net <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTesti%3Aa> || TracTesti edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTesti> || TracTesti edited by kotikatu@helka.net <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTesti>
[07:54:27] <timte> where am I supposed to install clearsilver?
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[08:53:15] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5079 (defect closed): Database is locked <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5079#comment:1> || Ticket #5079 (defect created): Database is locked <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5079> || Ticket #5078 (enhancement closed): Make ticket keyword field optional <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5078#comment:1> || Ticket #5078 (enhancement created): Make ticket keyword field optional <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5078>
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[09:23:24] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5095 (defect created): Deleting reports created from saved queries <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5095> || Ticket #3730 (defect closed): Remove "- Trac" suffix from the HTML head title <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3730#comment:19>
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[09:45:41] <|sharky|> hello all
[09:46:14] <|sharky|> am trying to get the TracAccountManager working but after installing i get this error : [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/www/.python-eggs'
[09:50:11] <retracile> |sharky|, could you give some more context? (commands run, OS, etc.)
[09:50:41] <|sharky|> ok
[09:50:45] <|sharky|> so trying to use http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin
[09:51:24] <|sharky|> i should use the http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin before
[09:51:35] <|sharky|> so installed successfully the webadmin egg
[09:51:51] <|sharky|> i got the Admin link on my trac page
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[09:52:16] <|sharky|> with just only this webadmin.* = enabled
[09:52:26] <|sharky|> and then, installed the AccountManagerPlugin egg
[09:52:39] <|sharky|> added these : trac.web.auth.LoginModule = disabled
[09:52:45] <|sharky|> acct_mgr.web_ui.LoginModule = enabled
[09:52:51] <|sharky|> acct_mgr.web_ui.RegistrationModule = disabled
[09:52:56] <|sharky|> and that error raised
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[10:15:25] <coderanger> |sharky|: Look at the instructions on setting PYTHON_EGG_CACHE
[10:15:30] <coderanger> @wiki TracPlugins
[10:15:30] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPlugins
[10:17:42] <m_g> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/FootNoteMacro this is not tagged for 0.10, does anybody know if it will also work there?
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[10:17:59] <coderanger> Try it and find out? ;-)
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[10:19:12] <m_g> hm .. ok .. i could try that :P
[10:20:49] <m_g> seems to work :)
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[10:30:30] <coderanger> m_g: Hows the hidevals plugin working?
[10:30:54] <m_g> coderanger, didn't try it :) you know, just asked for that guy
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[11:24:01] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5096 (defect created): Oops... <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5096>
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[11:30:53] <tag> hey
[11:30:58] <tag> maybe someone here knows the answer to this
[11:31:07] <tag> I'm having the most obnoxious problem with setprems
[11:31:09] <tag> err
[11:31:10] <tag> svnperms
[11:31:20] <tag> http://paste.lisp.org/display/39177
[11:31:24] <tag> I don't really see what's wrong
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[11:32:34] <tag> why wouldn't I be able to update [^/]+/trunk/.*
[11:32:36] <tag> makes no sense
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[11:32:51] <tag> you can't update koppel/trunk/templates/dev.confgen
[11:34:21] <asmodai> ehrm
[11:34:32] <asmodai> How about you ask this in the #svn channel?
[11:34:44] <asmodai> Seems more fit for that than in here.
[11:37:50] <tag> Uh
[11:37:55] <tag> ehrm, I already did
[11:37:58] <tag> or I wouldn't be asking here
[11:38:42] <tag> notice I pasted this shit 2 days ago
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[11:43:16] <tag> AHA
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[13:20:20] <tomas_> im having an issue with trac+postgres....created the user + db in postgres, but get this error when i go to trac in web browser: Trac detected an internal error: relation "system" does not exist
[13:20:33] <coderanger> tomas_: Are you using schemas?
[13:20:42] <tomas_> seems like im missing a table....do a \dt in pgsql prompt, shows no relations
[13:20:45] <tomas_> no
[13:20:48] <tomas_> wasnt planning on it
[13:21:00] <tomas_> this database will only be used for trac
[13:21:06] <coderanger> were there any errors during initenv?
[13:21:17] <tomas_> nope
[13:21:29] <coderanger> try running it again
[13:21:31] <tomas_> ok
[13:24:42] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5096 (defect created): Error getting user's permissions with Postgre <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5096>
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[13:25:54] <tomas_> weird
[13:26:00] <tomas_> now getting clearsilver error
[13:26:06] <tomas_> so getting a bit farther, thx coderanger
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[13:50:30] <tag> it's possible to disable all components except a single plugin with trac right
[13:51:12] <tomas_> checking for apache 1.3.x... found 2.2.3 - disabling module build
[13:51:25] <tomas_> wont run on 2.x?
[13:51:59] <coderanger> tag: In theory, in practice that won't work terribly well
[13:52:12] <coderanger> tomas_: What is that from?
[13:52:15] <tag> coderanger: why?
[13:52:22] <tomas_> compiling clearsilver
[13:52:51] <coderanger> tag: You probably want things like permissions, or the navigation subsystems, which are all Components
[13:53:22] <tag> coderanger: right
[13:53:38] <coderanger> Not to mention that Environment is a comonent too
[13:53:53] <tag> coderanger: but you can shut off like, the wiki, the issue tracking, the browser, roadmap etc. right
[13:53:58] <coderanger> Yes
[13:53:59] <tag> and it still works reasonably well
[13:54:04] <tag> sweet
[13:54:15] <coderanger> with the wiki off, the help links on other pages will be broken
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[13:54:24] <coderanger> (as in the links will lead to 404s)
[13:54:51] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5096 (defect created): Error getting user's permissions with Postgres <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5096>
[13:54:58] <tag> is there a way I can ditch the help links?
[13:54:59] <tag> :-)
[13:55:42] <tag> basically this is why I am asking, I'm writing something on top of trac I'm planning to employ at work, but we already have a wiki, an issue tracking system, etc. My plan is to get us all to trac, but it's taken me a full year to get us to move ONE component to subversion.
[13:55:43] <coderanger> Not without hacking the templates
[13:56:04] <tag> so I want to introduce it bit by bit, as each level gets okayed
[13:56:18] <tag> and not end up with a bunch of random "Just seeing what this is" wiki pages, etc.
[13:56:29] <tag> like, cleanly introduce things one at a time :-)
[13:56:36] <coderanger> tag: I would leave the wiki enabled, mask it with NavHider, and don't give users edit permissions and whatnot
[13:56:45] <coderanger> so it will just be there as static documentation
[13:57:09] <tag> that's an idea
[13:57:12] <coderanger> tomas_: I didn't think Clearsilver touched Apache
[13:57:14] <tag> and just shut everything else off
[13:57:24] <tag> well, I'll probably leave the browser
[13:57:27] <tag> definitely want to shut off tickets
[13:57:29] <tag> and milestones
[13:58:10] <coderanger> tag: Yes, if you want to take advantage of the wiki formatting, you can make a little plugin that render #\d+ as a link to your current system
[13:58:17] <coderanger> ditto for wiki links for that matter
[13:58:27] <tag> Sweet!
[13:58:35] <tomas_> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../libs/libneo_cgi.a', needed by `neo_cgi.so'. Stop.
[13:58:46] <tomas_> assuming so, not sure why else neo_cgi.so is being needed
[13:58:47] <coderanger> tomas_: 64-bit system?
[13:58:53] <tomas_> yes, solaris 9
[13:59:01] <coderanger> tomas_: *shudder*
[13:59:16] <coderanger> Check the wiki, I think there are links to pre-built packages
[13:59:22] <tomas_> config line: ./configure --prefix=/opt/clearsilver --with-python --disable-ruby --disable-java --disable-perl --disable-apache --disable-csharp
[13:59:48] <coderanger> clearsilver and 64 bit don't get along well, nor do clearsilver and solaris (from what I've heard)
[14:00:11] <coderanger> Thats one of the many reasons we are ditching it
[14:00:28] <tomas_> ok
[14:00:44] <tomas_> seems like if yall are ditching, i should find alternative
[14:01:22] <coderanger> tomas_: Well you would need to use trunk if you want to use Genshi (the replacement)
[14:01:59] <tomas_> hmm :(
[14:02:38] <coderanger> @wiki TracOnSolaris
[14:02:38] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnSolaris
[14:04:27] <coderanger> that has the link to the packages (blastwave)
[14:04:50] <tomas_> awesome, thx coderanger
[14:05:05] <tomas_> ya, cant use pkg-get, have a central mgmt system for all servers
[14:05:56] <coderanger> You can still grab the clearsilver package
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[14:09:36] <tomas_> you can download the sol package from blastwave?
[14:12:25] <tomas_> nm, i see whats up
[14:12:30] <tomas_> never used blastwave before
[14:13:11] <zooko> ?
[14:13:12] <zooko> ?
[14:13:14] <zooko> Oops.
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[14:25:00] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5097 (defect created): authz gives "Permission Denied" when viewing empty changeset <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5097>
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[14:35:08] <tomas_> eh, wtf, that blastwave package is missing files
[14:35:25] <tomas_> listed files show one thing, after installing the package, a lot less files
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[16:17:46] <joel> coderanger, are you around?
[16:18:12] <tag> Too bad ZSI seems to only use section 5 encoding
[16:19:26] <joel> ...or anyone who's quite familar with the track-hacks AccountManagerPlugin
[16:23:30] <joel> ???
[16:26:37] <nDuff> joel: I'm not familiar with it at all, but I can bullshit a little. Have you looked for exceptions in the trac instance's log? Have you used something like "strace -e open -s 200 -p <trac_pid>" to see what files it's trying to open during operation, and whether it's actually able to open those files?
[16:29:33] <nDuff> joel: Does the "Accounts" section show under the admin tab?
[16:29:54] <joel> yes.. it does.
[16:30:27] <joel> the manager is supposed to manage the httpasswd file for my apache server
[16:35:38] <nDuff> joel: Okay, you've answered one question. There are more above it -- and the strace one (ie. checking to make sure file permissions aren't an issue) is important.
[16:36:07] <joel> looking for that info..
[16:36:20] <joel> never used <trac_pid> before
[16:36:34] <nDuff> that means (substitute your process's PID here)
[16:36:40] <joel> oh..
[16:38:06] <joel> acually never used trace before.. looking for the log file..
[16:38:56] <nDuff> strace logs to stderr unless you tell it to log elsewhere.
[16:39:17] <nDuff> if there's nothing coming out, that's because the process you're tracing isn't doing any open syscalls ("-e open" means only look at files being opened)
[16:40:12] <joel> don't even think i have strace available in my system.
[16:40:38] <nDuff> what's your OS?
[16:41:02] <nDuff> if you're on a traditional UNIX, you may want truss instead
[16:42:33] <joel> using winxp pro
[16:42:35] <joel> created a new log file and reset apache, got this eror:
[16:42:37] <joel> 2007-04-05 19:33:41,691 Trac[web_ui] WARNING: AccountModule is disabled because the password store does not support writing.
[16:42:38] <joel> 2007-04-05 19:33:41,691 Trac[web_ui] WARNING: RegistrationModule is disabled because the password store does not support writing.
[16:42:47] <nDuff> oh, yeah, no strace-equivalent tools for XP.
[16:43:26] <tsb> Is it possible to easily extract the milestone info? something like [[milestoneInfo:milestone4]] and it would display the info on your wikipage
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[16:45:04] <joel> i think my problem is i don't know which modules to use
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[16:47:57] <joel> ok. the log now shows it created a new user, but the password file doesn't show the new user and the hashed password. Ideas? I believe it's supposed to write to the password file. Right?
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[16:49:52] <nDuff> If the ini file is configured correctly, it should indeed write to the password file.
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[16:53:50] <joel> hummm i found a different password file that the WebAdmin is using - and one that apache is using for the authorization. ..should apache be using the same file or do I even need apache's httpasswd file to be used?
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[17:57:25] <pfn> hrm, how do I disable svn from trac? (I don't want to use the svn components)
[18:01:26] <pfn> hmm, says I can set repo dir to blank
[18:01:31] <pfn> hmm, trac 0.9 didn't like that, heh
[18:04:34] <pfn> but nevermind, my env is now up to 0.10...
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[18:29:02] <oUtlaw-> can anyone help me get the query for the Active Tickets By Milestone Report and All Tickets By Milestone (including closed) ?
[18:29:08] <oUtlaw-> http://www.hosted-projects.com/trac/TracDemo/Demo/report <-- there
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[18:33:14] <oUtlaw-> nevermind, got it
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[18:33:28] <retracile> http://www.hosted-projects.com/trac/TracDemo/Demo/report/6?format=sql
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[20:17:26] <Macca> trac's debug isn't giving any errors about sending emails but i'm just not receiving them. i get: 2007-04-06 03:05:30,129 Trac[__init__] DEBUG: Sending SMTP notification to localhost on port 25 to [u'EMAIL ADDRESS'] ... but no email is received
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[21:45:09] <oUtlaw-> is there anyway to format changetime in one of the reports?
[21:46:00] <coderanger> Just use the datetime formating function in your SQL of choice
[21:46:19] <oUtlaw-> yeah, i tried using date_format() but realized im not using myself
[21:46:21] <oUtlaw-> mysql
[21:46:31] <oUtlaw-> im using the default.. think its sqllite ?
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[21:47:01] <coderanger> http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=DateAndTimeFunctions
[21:47:17] <oUtlaw-> uhm
[21:47:19] <oUtlaw-> shit
[21:47:26] <oUtlaw-> i posted Datetime(changetime, 'unixepoch') in the report
[21:47:28] <oUtlaw-> and now
[21:47:34] <oUtlaw-> when i click on the report, it reports a python error
[21:47:36] <oUtlaw-> how can i remove that?
[21:48:44] <coderanger> ?action=edit
[21:49:07] <pfn> hmm, looks like my trac isn't happy running on svn 1.3, need to upgrade to 1.4
[21:49:37] <oUtlaw-> code: ahhh gracias
[21:49:41] <oUtlaw-> i almost shat myself ;)
[21:52:01] <oUtlaw-> uhm
[21:52:06] <oUtlaw-> is changetime even a date field?
[21:55:38] <coderanger> I don't have a trac db on here to check with