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April 11, 2007

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[00:31:52] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5051 (defect closed): On enter in "RoadMap" OR "new Ticket" <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5051#comment:4>
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[02:02:23] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5125 (defect closed): Problem appears every other log in <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5125#comment:1> || Ticket #5125 (defect created): Problem appears every other log in <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5125>
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[02:32:34] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5095 (defect closed): Deleting reports created from saved queries <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5095#comment:4> || Changeset [5194]: Fixes #5095: Add 'delete query' button. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5194> || Ticket #5126 (enhancement created): trac should have an option to obscure all email addresses <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5126>
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[03:02:43] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5127 (enhancement created): Custom Query recording functionality - a quick fix? <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5127> || Ticket #5095 (defect closed): Deleting reports created from saved queries <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5095#comment:7> || Ticket #5095 (defect reopened): Deleting reports created from saved queries <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5095#comment:5>
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[03:31:08] <cerw> hi there
[03:31:50] <cerw> is there way to make user visible in ComboBox (on ticket assing page) , wiithou actuall loging in and filling name & email details?
[03:32:54] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5127 (enhancement closed): Custom Query recording functionality - a quick fix? <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5127#comment:1>
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[03:43:03] <lestat> hi all
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[04:33:14] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: VcRefactoring edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/VcRefactoring>
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[04:35:41] <loca|host> hello
[04:36:09] <loca|host> is there any trac-hack that can let trac authentify users on a mysql db basis ?
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[05:16:10] <slyfox> Can somone please tell me if Exaile supports ratings? I see the ability to put rating for a track, but I cannot actually do it.
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[05:50:41] <slyfox> Can somone please tell me if Exaile supports ratings? I see the ability to put rating for a track, but I cannot actually do it.
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[05:56:26] <cmlenz> slyfox: wrong channel I suppose
[05:56:43] <tamere> Hi there. I've setup the SiteUpload plugin and I can successfully upload files to each project's htdocs directory, but I don't understand how to refer to these files in the wiki. Could anyone give me a hint ?
[06:00:18] <tamere> the documentation says "Files can then be referenced by using the site/ url" but this doesn't work for me either if I type exactly "site/myfilename" or "myprojectname/myfilename"
[06:00:33] <tamere> sorry I don't get it
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[06:09:07] <cmlenz> tamere: try using [htdocs:myfile.txt] in the wiki
[06:09:40] <tamere> cmlenz: thanks a bunch !!!
[06:09:44] <tamere> cmlenz: works
[06:09:50] <cmlenz> what docs were you looking at?
[06:10:30] <tamere> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/SiteUploadPlugin
[06:10:45] <tamere> second line in the "Description" paragraph
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[06:19:50] <cmlenz> ah yeah, that's rather vague ;-)
[06:20:31] <cmlenz> really depends on where you're trying to put the reference
[06:21:26] <tamere> what do you mean (I'm a newbie with Trac, as you've guessed already) ?
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[06:33:50] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #1467 (enhancement reopened): Custom Query should support a dynamic $USER variable <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1467#comment:8>
[06:35:34] <lestat> hi, maybe someone of you can help me... I'm getting an Apache segfault using trac with mod_python; if I use tracd or CGI all good. I'm on Ubuntu edgy with backports (trac 0.10.3)
[06:36:27] <lestat> the segfault happens when I look at the single project (if I go into the projects root - specified with TracEnvParentDir - the list appears)
[06:38:08] <lestat> anyone experimented the same issue?
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[08:04:21] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5128 (defect created): font-weight has no effect in __style__ for report lines <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5128>
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[09:31:26] <Rickard_> I want to list all changsets that affect a particular path in the repository. Something like the timeline, but limited to e.g. /trunk. How would I do that?
[09:33:58] <retracile> source browser; go to the path in the repo, then hit the log link
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[09:34:48] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5130 (defect created): page to latex plugin <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5130> || Ticket #5129 (defect created): page to latex plugin <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5129>
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[09:43:48] <Deen> Hello, I need help configuring Apache2 to support FastCgi module.
[09:44:52] <Rickard_> retracile: Of course. Thanks.
[09:45:06] <retracile> :)
[09:47:52] <Deen> Can anyone help pls. I don't understand the instruction on the Trac website.
[09:48:57] <coderanger> Deen: What do you not understand
[09:49:42] <Deen> Thanks: I don't know what they mean by Apache Configuration file
[09:49:58] <coderanger> Deen: Have you ever configured a webserver before?
[09:49:59] <Deen> is it the httpd.conf or apache2.conf
[09:50:03] <Deen> nope
[09:50:10] <Deen> I just install everything to use trac
[09:50:22] <coderanger> Deen: How many users are you serving?
[09:50:46] <Deen> potentially about 5
[09:51:01] <coderanger> Use tracd
[09:51:06] <Deen> ah.
[09:51:23] <coderanger> It will be a lot easier, and you won't notice any performance difference
[09:51:28] <Deen> I do want to be able to configure it to support learger tho.
[09:51:35] <Deen> yes I made it work with tracd
[09:51:41] <coderanger> You can migrate later if needed
[09:51:46] <Deen> but i like to learn more about apache.
[09:51:50] <Deen> fair enough.
[09:52:07] <Deen> btw if i want to run it for production, how should I configue the server to run tracd?
[09:52:34] <coderanger> Deen: The way I learned was to park myself at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ and read basically the entire thing
[09:52:55] <Deen> do i have to run tracd command everytime server reboot?
[09:53:13] <coderanger> Deen: Is this windows or linux?
[09:53:19] <Deen> I use debian
[09:53:23] <Deen> etch
[09:53:27] <Deen> also newbie ^
[09:53:44] <Deen> I pretty much install everything to try to use trac.
[09:54:02] <coderanger> I would think debian includes an rc script, but I avoid it at all costs so I wouldn't really know
[09:54:28] <coderanger> look in /etc/rc.d for something about tracd
[09:54:28] <Deen> for now I use this box to learn trac development
[09:54:42] <Deen> my dept already support Trac so my main trac is on their machine.
[09:55:19] <Deen> there is no rc.d folder on my /etc
[09:55:52] <coderanger> Deen: What about /etc/init.d
[09:56:07] <coderanger> if you are developing you always want tracd anyway
[09:56:23] <coderanger> If only for the --autoreload option
[09:56:26] <Deen> yes there is init.d
[09:56:39] <Deen> ah then i will postpone my fastcgi lesson :)
[09:56:48] <Deen> i have the testing environment now i believe
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[09:57:35] <Deen> is there script for testing the trac code?
[09:58:00] <coderanger> Deen: trac/test.py
[09:58:01] <Deen> say, if i make some change to trac code base, i want to be able to see the changes by runing a script
[09:58:08] <Deen> instead of go though all the commands.
[09:58:10] <Deen> ah
[09:58:27] <coderanger> Its not perfect, but a lot of stuff is unit-tested
[09:58:54] <Deen> is there any instruction about this somewhere?
[09:59:19] <coderanger> What precisely are you trying to do
[09:59:32] <Deen> I am trying to implement plugin
[09:59:48] <Deen> that's my goal.
[10:00:10] <Deen> so i start from ground up. First I need to know how trac is implemented
[10:00:18] <Deen> then learn how to write simple plugin.
[10:00:25] <coderanger> What will this plugin do
[10:00:49] <Deen> This plugin will mine the trac database then gather software metrics.
[10:01:20] <coderanger> Deen: You are the second person this week to be trying that :P
[10:01:24] <Deen> for example defect density of each module, code size in line of code.
[10:01:38] <coderanger> bug alect to see if he will give you his codebase as a starting point
[10:01:39] <Deen> grr well i could collaborate with that person then :P
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[10:01:59] <Deen> ya idealy i want to mine the repository to supply Agile metrics
[10:02:27] <Deen> for now I have to get trac to run T.T
[10:02:34] <Deen> which i did.
[10:02:47] <Deen> now I am reading Trac code like crazy
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[10:03:36] <Deen> but it would be easier for newbie if there document that discuss about trac directory structure.
[10:03:42] <retracile> When it comes to writing plugins, coderanger is the person to talk to. :)
[10:04:08] <Deen> he is very responsive too! :)
[10:04:21] <coderanger> Deen: What do you mean? The versioncontrol stuff is all under trac/versioncontrol
[10:04:54] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5129 (defect closed): page to latex plugin <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5129#comment:1> || Ticket #5130 (defect closed): page to latex plugin <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5130#comment:1>
[10:05:13] <coderanger> what you want to look at the Changeset and Node objects
[10:06:39] <coderanger> thats how you gets data out of the VCS
[10:08:10] <Deen> i am trying to register to freenode so i can send the private message
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[10:34:49] <DeenBhuricha> can someone help me creating trac development environment? I installed the Trac head revision and every program required.
[10:35:03] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5131 (enhancement created): Edit files in browser <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5131>
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[11:35:23] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5132 (defect created): Kid Carry: MIVA Shopping Cart is reporting a fatal error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5132>
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[11:50:12] <kscarp> Hello
[11:50:18] <jhulten> Hey.
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[11:53:49] <kscarp> Sorry - irc newbie here - I have a trac ticket question
[11:53:51] <kscarp> How can I get at the wiki source of a ticket?
[11:53:53] <kscarp> Problem: I have a ticket that is a prioritized list of work items in our projects. The plan is to update the list as priorities change, by adding a comment with the modified list. To do this, I would like to get at the wiki source of the previous comment in the ticket as a starting point, so I don't have to add all the wiki formatting in again.
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[12:05:33] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5132 (defect closed): Kid Carry: MIVA Shopping Cart is reporting a fatal error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5132#comment:1> || Ticket #5133 (enhancement created): let users annotate the timeline with discussion for code reviewability <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5133>
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[12:12:24] <retracile> kscarp: sounds like you might be better off with a roadmap...
[12:12:39] <retracile> kscarp: but you may be able to use the [reply] button...
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[12:43:05] <tag> hurm
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[12:58:55] <kscarp> retracile:reply will work for my needs - thanks!!!
[13:00:10] <kscarp> retracile: Roadmap is close - but I want cc capability - for folks not yet used to using trac
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[13:25:07] <WulffDK> thats better, evening everyone
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[13:26:27] <WulffDK> I would like to know if anybody has expirienced complete lock-ups after a mac has blacked out the screen and colloquy is runing? After waking up the machine beachballs
[13:26:37] <coderanger> WulffDK: Wrong chan
[13:26:42] <coderanger> This is for Trac
[13:26:51] <coderanger> Hence the name and topic ;-)
[13:27:02] <WulffDK> ohh sorry, I just followed a link, I'll go somewhere else and ask
[13:27:18] <coderanger> colloquy just uses Trac to manage their development
[13:27:19] <WulffDK> :)
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[13:27:34] <WulffDK> yeah, my bad
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[13:47:48] <bergheim> Is there any plugin which support extracting the ticket-data? Specifically, the textbodies and milestone it applied to?
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[13:56:04] <pygi> s0undt3ch, poke
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[14:00:38] <joel__> Hi.. anyone know of a "joke of the day" plug-in or similar for trac?? :)
[14:00:47] <coderanger> bergheim: Do you mean remotely?
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[14:01:24] <joel__> (for the wiki page)
[14:01:48] <tsb> coderanger: whoops. I guess I really mean sort of like a WikiInclude or similar, so that you can put it right on a wikipage.
[14:02:05] <coderanger> joel__: Making something to call fortune would be trivial
[14:02:21] <tsb> coderanger: for the project, I need to deliver everything as a .pdf. I have a lot of stuff in the tickets I'd like to show..
[14:02:21] <coderanger> tsb: Not that I know of, but it would be easy to make
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[14:02:46] <coderanger> tsb: I can look at adding it to includemacro later
[14:02:55] <tsb> coderanger: for someone with hundreds of trac commits, sure. For someone who doesn't know python very well even..
[14:03:11] <coderanger> tsb: I have very few Trac commits ;-)
[14:03:16] <coderanger> 3 or 4 I think
[14:03:21] <coderanger> I stick to plugins
[14:03:26] <joel__> coderanger: how do you mean it's trivial?
[14:03:27] <tsb> coderanger: oh wow. My deadline is the 16th. Feel free to do it before that =)
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[14:05:04] <tsb> coderanger: without giving it much thought, it would support both tickets and milestones. milestones would just iterate over all the tickets and replys. Stuff like "priority changed from X to Y" is not of importance
[14:05:55] <coderanger> joel__: class FortuneMacro(WikiMacroBase): def render_macro(<stuff): return subprocess.Popen('fortune', stdout=subprocess.PIPE).communicate()[0]
[14:06:13] <retracile> Heh. :)
[14:07:45] <coderanger> tsb: Thats somewhat more complex than just including a ticket body
[14:07:54] <joel__> a bit over my head.. I'm more like
[14:07:56] <joel__> 10 print 'hello'
[14:07:57] <joel__> 20 go to 10
[14:07:59] <joel__> LOL!! Seriously.. very newbe here
[14:08:16] <coderanger> @dive
[14:08:16] <evil_twin> coderanger: "dive" is Dive Into Python: A crash course in Python for experienced programmers. http://www.diveintopython.org
[14:08:20] <coderanger> ;-)
[14:09:28] <joel__> got one for us newbies?
[14:10:48] <coderanger> joel__: Google
[14:10:57] <tsb> I guess 'Waddle into Python' dodn't make it
[14:11:05] <joel__> :)
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[14:15:03] <tsb> coderanger: oh, while you are at it, retrieving *only* the milestone goals would be very nice as well. At the moment I am duplicating that info somewhere else.
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[14:21:07] <coderanger> tsb: You mean the description?
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[14:23:49] <tsb> coderanger: correct.
[14:24:25] <tsb> coderanger: it is convenient if you have a document summarizing the milestones, the objectives, what worked and what did not work etc.
[14:25:19] <coderanger> Okay, but why does that need an include system?
[14:25:25] <coderanger> Its going to be different text
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[14:27:03] <tsb> coderanger: in a html-document, it might not be so important; on a pdf printout, you need to show what you are talking about (i.e what were the goals). Autmatically including the description is an easy way to do that
[14:27:41] <coderanger> tsb: For milestones I would just copy the text
[14:28:14] <tsb> coderanger: the general structure I have is something like this: milestoneX\nDescription: milestoneX.description\nComments:\n
[14:29:07] <tsb> coderanger: yes, that is what I am doing at the moment :) it's not terribly important to have this fixed, since the manual labour isn't very significant (as opposed to the ticket thing)
[14:30:14] <tsb> coderanger: While you are at it, the pdf export-plugin would be dead-sexy with automatic foot-notes containing the url that are linked :)
[14:30:50] <tsb> coderanger: I'm guessing that is not as trivial as the ticket-thing though..
[14:30:57] <coderanger> tsb: Thats what the TiddlyWiki and HTML formats are for
[14:31:15] <coderanger> the PDF generation is done by an old and awful program called HTMLDOC
[14:31:20] <tsb> coderanger: yeah? *locate TiddlyWiki*
[14:31:34] <coderanger> tsb: Its a CombineWiki output format
[14:31:56] <coderanger> Its a single-file HTML wiki
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[14:32:56] <tsb> coderanger: ah, right. so it's not happening for the trac pdf feature in any forseable future?
[14:33:17] <tsb> wait, oh
[14:33:46] <tsb> coderanger: so I could just put the combinewiki file straight into tiddly, and then export a nice pdf?
[14:34:59] <coderanger> No
[14:35:16] <coderanger> TiddlyWiki is an interactive wiki contained in a single HTML file
[14:35:40] <coderanger> Since it is HTML is maintains links, both internal and external ones
[14:36:20] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUpgrade edited by pterk@datatailors.com <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUpgrade>
[14:37:04] <tsb> coderanger: okay, right. But duplicating everythign from the trac wiki over to tiddly seems.. very unlikely to happen.
[14:38:05] <tsb> coderanger: I guess if combinewiki supported html as well as pdf the problem would be easy as pie -- just add a stylesheet.
[14:38:25] <coderanger> tsb: What do you mean?
[14:38:29] <coderanger> It can already do that
[14:38:38] <coderanger> Both HTML and TiddlyWiki
[14:39:04] <coderanger> In fact it does more than that, it does a dynamic conversion from trac wiki markup to tiddlywiki markup
[14:39:21] <tsb> coderanger: a print stylesheet to show the links.. I guess adding them as footnotes could be a bit challenging as opposed to just ()'s after the words though.
[14:39:41] <coderanger> Thats not possible with PDFs ...
[14:39:51] <coderanger> HTMLDOC doesn't support CSS
[14:40:01] <coderanger> or anything more recent than HTML3.0
[14:40:02] <tsb> coderanger: I know - I'm talking about HTML
[14:40:08] <tsb> ahah
[14:40:10] <tsb> wow, okay.
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[14:40:21] <coderanger> You would need to do the PDF conversion some other way then
[14:40:54] <tsb> coderanger: but that doens't matter. You'd just add the css yoursef afterwards and add an a:after or something to it. still, it is somewhat crude I guess..
[14:42:26] <coderanger> tsb: Im not sure what you are saying
[14:42:44] <coderanger> In the HTML output, the links will be intact and linkified
[14:42:57] <coderanger> You don't need any special indicator for them
[14:43:18] <coderanger> In the PDF format there is no way to do it with CSS
[14:43:42] <tsb> coderanger: I meant that HTMLDOC doesn't have to support css at all - after the HTML has been generated, you could just add a css ref with a file containing something like a:after { content: " ("attr(href) ")";}. It wouldn't be a footnote though.
[14:44:35] <tsb> coderanger: yes, I am not talking about css for pdf's, I'm talking about html files.. since you mentioned pdf's couldn't have them, this seems like a fallback that would work atleast.
[14:45:36] <coderanger> tsb: Why do you need it in HTML though?
[14:45:53] <coderanger> the link should show however the person has told their browser to show links
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[14:47:07] <tsb> coderanger: surely, I am talking about on print. on paper.
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[14:47:27] <tsb> coderanger: it would be pointless if you are viewing it on a computer :)
[14:48:01] <coderanger> Ahh, paper sucks :P
[14:48:10] <tsb> coderanger: the problem is there's this retarded requirement that I have to hand this in as a *paper*. Actually, not displaying the links will be my protest and I'll explain why.
[14:48:36] <tsb> coderanger: problem solved, go back to the tickets =)
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