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<qasim> |
and site where I can read a step-by-step tutorial on trac? |
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<coderanger> |
qasim: What kind of setup are you looking to do? |
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<qasim> |
IT project management |
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<coderanger> |
No, I mean is this your own server, shared hosting, windows, linux, etc etc |
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<qasim> |
yes it is my own server...I have already installed Trac and it is running fine |
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<qasim> |
I need to know about the features of how each thing works in it |
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<coderanger> |
ahh |
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<qasim> |
such as tickets, roadmap, etc |
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<coderanger> |
@wiki TracGuide |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracGuide |
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<coderanger> |
That has links to the page for each subsystem |
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<qasim> |
i have gone through it but it is not that detailed oriented |
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<coderanger> |
What other information are you looking for? |
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<qasim> |
I need some sort of a tutorial which clearly identifies what each thing do and in much more detail...i know that tickets are there but how to incorporate it with the project, etc. |
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<coderanger> |
We don't have anything like that, Trac is designed to be as flexible as possible so there isn't just one way |
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<coderanger> |
Are you looking to use some particular development style (XP, Agile, SCRUM, RUP, etc)? |
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<qasim> |
no |
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<coderanger> |
Basically you can use thing like tickets in whatever way works for you best |
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<coderanger> |
Most people use them to track bugs and feature requests |
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<coderanger> |
but you can also track tasks, user stories, resources, etc etc |
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<coderanger> |
A milestone is generally defined externally, either by a real deadline or by a team manager setting intermediary check points |
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<coderanger> |
components usually map to discreet subsystems within a project |
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<coderanger> |
(though you don't need to use any of these) |
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<qasim> |
ahaan...thanks...is there any IT project whose trac I can use or look into to setup mine...just to see it as an example? |
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<coderanger> |
I don't know of any off hand, and most would probably not be public anyway |
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<coderanger> |
For our computer helpdesk we just use the wiki (and some custom plugins) |
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<qasim> |
ok |
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<coderanger> |
I can say you may want to look at the PrivateTickets and HideVals plugins |
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<coderanger> |
(if you need to hide tickets from some parties) |
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<qasim> |
yes that would be handy |
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<qasim> |
coderanger you there? |
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<coderanger> |
Yep |
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<qasim> |
ok I have decided to install trac on my system and I am using Linux...I have apt-get it, is there anymore modules that needs to be installed with it? |
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<coderanger> |
I would hope apt pulls in whatever it needs |
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<coderanger> |
check that you have the module for your database, and the subversion bindings if you are using that part of Trac |
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<qasim> |
which database you recommend? I am inclined towards postgre sql... |
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<coderanger> |
How many users do you have and do you already have a postgres server running |
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<qasim> |
it is running on another machine |
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<qasim> |
about 10 |
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<coderanger> |
if you already have postgres setup you might as well use it |
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<qasim> |
yes I have confirmed it and we have it... |
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<qasim> |
I'll use that then |
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<qasim> |
thanks |
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<coderanger> |
I would highly recommend using psycopg2 over pypgsql |
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<qasim> |
then I can install that on my machine |
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<coderanger> |
yes |
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<coderanger> |
those a python bindings for postges |
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<qasim> |
installed apt-get install python-psycopg2... |
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<qasim> |
ok, now that I have both the trac and database installed...what should be the next step? |
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<coderanger> |
setup a webserver of some kind |
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<coderanger> |
for 10 users tracd should be fine |
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<qasim> |
I have apache2 on my machine already |
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<coderanger> |
okay |
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<coderanger> |
then pick between FastCGI and mod_python |
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<qasim> |
you mean: libapache2-mod-fastcgi - Apache 2 FastCGI module for long-running CGI scripts |
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<coderanger> |
Thats on option, yes |
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<coderanger> |
I thought you said you already had Trac installed |
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<qasim> |
I have it on another machine but I need to install it on mine |
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<coderanger> |
Why? |
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<qasim> |
because that machine is going to be used for some other purposes |
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<qasim> |
it might not be connected to net at all |
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<qasim> |
that is why the shift is necessary |
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<coderanger> |
You might just want to copy off the config you had on the other box then |
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<qasim> |
hmm but I would be more comfortable with doing the installation myself inorder to get the idea how this thing gets installed for future purposes |
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<qasim> |
so should I go ahead with FastCGI and mod_python? |
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<coderanger> |
whichever you prefer |
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<qasim> |
I need to install both of them, right? |
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<coderanger> |
No |
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<coderanger> |
Just one |
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<qasim> |
I'll go with mod_python then |
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<qasim> |
done |
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<qasim> |
what is the next step? |
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<coderanger> |
@wiki TracInstall |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall |
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<coderanger> |
@wiki TracModPython |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython |
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<qasim> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnUbuntu, I am stuck on the third point setup apache2 |
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<coderanger> |
Because those are instructions for CGI |
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<coderanger> |
not mod_python |
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<coderanger> |
read TracModPython |
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<qasim> |
ok |
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<qasim> |
should i write to httpd.conf for configuring authentication? |
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<coderanger> |
You mean should you configure it there? If you want to use HTTP auth |
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<qasim> |
i do not know...It is written on the page that a simple setup of trac on mod_python look like and there is <Location ...> *some code*</Location> |
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<coderanger> |
Yes |
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<qasim> |
but what is the need of doing that...isn't it already installed on the system? |
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<coderanger> |
Isn't what already installed |
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<qasim> |
mod_python |
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<coderanger> |
You still have to configure the application |
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<coderanger> |
mod_python is just the Apache module that it runs under |
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<qasim> |
and all these configuration lines have to be written on httpd.conf file? |
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<coderanger> |
No, you have to do that |
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<qasim> |
I mean I have to write these lines on httpd.conf file |
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<coderanger> |
Yes |
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<coderanger> |
or in some other file and then Included |
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<coderanger> |
I use one file per vhost |
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<coderanger> |
Thats fairly common for Apache |
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<qasim> |
I'll write it on the httpd.conf file then |
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<bram__> |
hello everyone |
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<coderanger> |
Alo |
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<soloturn> |
ola |
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<bram__> |
have a particular problem: I'm TRAC_ADMIN and I can VIEW stuff, but I don't see any of the admin links... |
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<bram__> |
trac-admin shows me having the right privileges |
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<coderanger> |
Do you have WebAdmin installed? |
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<bram__> |
no idea.... :-S |
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<bram__> |
uh |
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<bram__> |
we just moved from server A to B |
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<bram__> |
maybe someone didn't install the webadmin |
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<bram__> |
let's have a look |
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<bram__> |
ugh, that was a quick fix, thanks a lot guys :-) |
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<bram__> |
then I have another question, and feel free to RTFM me, but how do I change a user's password? |
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<coderanger> |
Thats all dependent on the auth system you are using |
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<bram__> |
we're using HTTP I think |
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<bram__> |
could that be ? |
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<bram__> |
password_format = htpasswd <- yeah, I guess so |
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<coderanger> |
That sounds like you are using AccountManager |
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<coderanger> |
Granted its an old version |
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<bram__> |
I just looked in the list of plugins and there's only the webadmin there... |
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<bram__> |
we're using trac 0.10.3.1... |
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<coderanger> |
Pastebin your trac.ini |
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<bram__> |
it mostly looks like someone copied the old settings file, but never installed any of the plugins |
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<bram__> |
just a sec, I'll paste some things |
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<lisppaste5> |
bram__ pasted "tra.ini" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/39797 |
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<bram__> |
as u can see there's a lot of things in |
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<bram__> |
[components] |
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<coderanger> |
You need to change the from password_format = htpasswd to password_store = HtPasswdStore |
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<coderanger> |
Then install AccountManager |
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<coderanger> |
You should see an option in the admin menu to change password |
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<bram__> |
what about the components? should I be deleting from there? |
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<coderanger> |
No |
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<coderanger> |
You should be installing those plugins |
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<bram__> |
oh dear |
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<bram__> |
ExtractionError: Can't extract file(s) to egg cache & a bunch of other errors |
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<coderanger> |
@wiki TracPlugins |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPlugins |
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<coderanger> |
Make sure you setup PYTHON_EGG_CACHE |
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<bram__> |
--always-unzip did the trick |
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<bram__> |
great, thanks a LOT for the help :-) |
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<bram__> |
any other "essential trac plugins" that couldmake my life easier? |
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<coderanger> |
WebAdmin, IniAdmin, AccountManager, and TicketDelete are all pretty much mandatory |
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<bram__> |
by the way, is there an easy way to delete a milestone and all the tickets related to it ? |
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<bram__> |
or would that just be, delete the milestone? :-) |
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<coderanger> |
No |
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<qasim> |
coderanger: I have incorporated the virtual host lines in the httpd.conf file |
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<qasim> |
coderanger you there? |
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<coderanger> |
I am |
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<qasim> |
I have wrote the virtual host lines on the httpd.conf file...I do not know what to do now...I've read the documentation but am not grasping the idea |
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<qasim> |
when i run the trac-admin command in the console it gives me some options |
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<coderanger> |
Did you make an environment? |
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<qasim> |
no |
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<coderanger> |
Then please read the instructions again |
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<bram__> |
just installed the wiki notification, but the "notify" link doesn't appear... any ideas? |
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<coderanger> |
bram__: Did you install CtxtNavAdd? |
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<bram__> |
yeah, but it looks like it was the wrong version |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5153 (defect created): Reverse order of changesets in quick succession <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5153> |
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<qasim> |
coderanger: by default on which directory or place does this trac sits in the system |
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<coderanger> |
There is no default |
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<qasim> |
I am doing trac-admin /var/trac/myproject initenv but it gives me error that no such directory or file |
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<qasim> |
any idea why is it giving me that error? |
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<coderanger> |
Does /var/trac exist? |
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<qasim> |
well i have installed it...and have done it with the tracd server option |
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<coderanger> |
Ack, looks like I haven't been getting any trac-related emails in over a week |
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<qasim> |
what is the function of component when issuing a new ticket? |
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<coderanger> |
qasim: Usually it's a way of breaking down a project into smaller chunks |
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<coderanger> |
Look at the components on trac.edgewall.org for example |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: AboutTrac edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/AboutTrac> |
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<qasim> |
is there apt-get for the web admin plugin? |
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<coderanger> |
No idea |
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<coderanger> |
But there are prebuilt eggs on the page |
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<coderanger> |
@wiki WebAdmin |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin |
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<qasim> |
yes i have read that...i do not know what prebuild eggs mean and i have downloaded it with "svn co http://svn.edgewall.com/repos/trac/sandbox/webadmin/" |
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<qasim> |
but how to initiate it as i am not able to find trac.ini on my system to edit it |
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<coderanger> |
qasim: Just download the egg for the correct python version and put it in /usr/share/trac/plugins |
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<qasim> |
ok |
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<coderanger> |
and make sure you enable it |
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<coderanger> |
webadmin.* = enabled |
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<coderanger> |
in trac.ini |
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<qasim> |
I have placed it at the required directory but I am not able to locate the trac.ini file |
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<coderanger> |
/path/to/env/conf/trac.ini |
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<qasim> |
thanks |
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<qasim> |
now how to start it? |
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<qasim> |
what is the command that should be stated at the console |
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<qasim> |
trac-admin is still command based |
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<coderanger> |
start what? |
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<qasim> |
i mean is there any user interface for this webadmin plugin? from where are we going to make changes |
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<coderanger> |
You will see a new 'Admin' button on the nav bar |
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<qasim> |
do i need to open the site again or restart the server? |
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<coderanger> |
restart the server |
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<coderanger> |
and make sure you have TRAC_ADMIN |
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<qasim> |
the system is saying "The user qasim requires read and write permission to the database file /var/trac/myproject/db/trac.db and the directory it is located in." |
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<qasim> |
i've found a way out... :) |
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<qasim> |
coderanger: the page is still the same...no admin button in sight |
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<coderanger> |
@logging |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors. |
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<qasim> |
where is trac.htpasswd file is located? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5154 (enhancement created): add alternatives for changeset links <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5154> |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: ping :) |
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<cmlenz> |
hey |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: hoi :D |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: i've restarted thinking about a working theme solution and uploaded my first attempt to that wikipage |
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<mitsuhiko> |
but it requires a lot more css rewriting than i thought which will probably break compatibility with clearsilver templates and old plugins :) |
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<mitsuhiko> |
*:-( |
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<mitsuhiko> |
but aside from that i was able to fix all problems that remained form the last time i tried working on it |
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<cmlenz> |
cool, I'll have a look in a bit |
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<cmlenz> |
just wrapping up genshi 0.4 right now |
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<qasim> |
\leave |
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<qasim> |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: is it true that the Undefined behavior is configurable now? |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cool. because i like the fail silent approach :) |
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<cmlenz> |
http://genshi.edgewall.org/wiki/Documentation/templates.html#id2 |
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<mitsuhiko> |
just saw it in a commit message :) |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, I think it's really hard to agree on "the right thing" in that case |
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<joel> |
hey. anyone know in which file i can modify the behavior of a an external URL that is included in a ticket? I want the behavior to open a new url instead of the same window (current default behavior) I've look in the python24\share\trac\templates, but don't see anything in the .cs files. I'm looking for a reference to the "extlink.gif" that is inserted before the URL. |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: why don't you replace Print / PrintNl with a function call in the translation process? |
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<mitsuhiko> |
it's quite strange that you can print to stdout from the template |
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<cmlenz> |
hmm, what would the alternative look like? |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: feeding the data into a stream provided. that could default to an StringIO |
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<mitsuhiko> |
then the application could hook the error log in there |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: sorry, but GenshiText templates suck for css templating :( |
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<mitsuhiko> |
is there a chance to replace "#" with something else? |
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<cmlenz> |
yeah, and no :-/ |
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<mitsuhiko> |
hmm |
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<cmlenz> |
text templates are admittedly pretty weak, and if the target language makes extensive use of #, using them is probably a huge PITA |
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<mitsuhiko> |
well yes. elif/else are missing imho. but aside from that is't not that bad |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: i would have doubled them |
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<mitsuhiko> |
## for item in seq etc |
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<cmlenz> |
that or the django syntax... which has the advantage of not relying on newlines |
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<cmlenz> |
the current syntax is velocity/cheetah "inspired" which may not have been that smart |
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<cmlenz> |
seeing how those are used mostly to generate HTML, whereas genshi-text templates aren'T |
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<mitsuhiko> |
cmlenz: well yes. i would have proposed the django syntax but i'm biased ;D |
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<cbrake> |
what is the best way to implement a "Fixed in version" field in trac? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5148 (defect closed): "No module named trac.admin.console" error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5148#comment:5> || Ticket #5148 (defect reopened): "No module named trac.admin.console" error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5148#comment:4> || Ticket #5148 (defect closed): "No module named trac.admin.console" error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5148#comment:3> || TracUsers edited by shane@infosonicgroup.com <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers> |
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<packetslade> |
im trying to install AccountManager w/ 0.11dev and get -> UndefinedError: "title" not defined |
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<packetslade> |
anyone know how to define it? |
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<cmlenz> |
try upgrading genshi |
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<packetslade> |
is there a way to determine what version of genshi is installed? |
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<packetslade> |
build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/genshi/template/eval.py |
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<packetslade> |
nevermind, Genshi-0.4dev_r532-py2.4.egg |
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<packetslade> |
thanks an upgrade to Genshi-0.5dev_r551-py2.4.egg seemed to work, much appreciated |
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<packetslade> |
thanks an upgrade to Genshi-0.5dev_r551-py2.4.egg seemed to work, much appreciated |
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<packetslade> |
i have one more question, there was an option to have "Assign To:" be a pulldown, i forgot where to configure, any idea? |
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<cmlenz_> |
[ticket] restrict_owner = yes |
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<packetslade> |
thanks |
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<packetslade> |
my domain wont show up in notification emails, any ideas? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5155 (defect created): Debt Lead Tood- Doubling leads <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5155> || WorkFlow edited by ecarter <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WorkFlow> |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5156 (defect created): history view of page edits in inline mode doesn't wrap changed text in Safari or Firefox <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5156> || Ticket #5155 (defect closed): Debt Lead Tood- Doubling leads <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5155#comment:1> |
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<joel> |
Posted this earlier, but on replies,yet.. so here is my Q again... |
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<joel> |
Anyone know in which file i can modify the behavior of a an external URL that is included in a ticket? I want the behavior to open a new url instead of the same window (current default behavior) I've look in the python24\share\trac\templates, but don't see anything in the .cs files. I'm looking for a reference to the "extlink.gif" that is inserted before the URL. |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5157 (defect created): Attach file to new ticket fails <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5157> |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5157 (defect closed): Attach file to new ticket fails <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5157#comment:3> |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5158 (defect created): New trac databases flagged as duplicate.. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5158> |
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<joel> |
hey..anyone know of a plugin to allow multiple file attachments in a ticket? |
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<joel> |
hello? |
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<tesst> |
Hello |
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<tesst> |
can someone tell me if it's possible to edit the presentation of the new ticket screen? When I add custom fields in trac.ini, it just sort of stacks the new fields one under the other. I'd like to customize them, by having them in "groups" |
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<tesst> |
I read the FAQ and guide on the edgewall site, and visited trac-hacks for a plugin, didn't find anything |
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<joel> |
i found those files in the /templates/ directory of you ptython install and did a few tweaks to the.. seemed to work ok. |
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<joel> |
(sorry, for bad spelling!) |
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<joel> |
also look at using css to udate the items you need changed/moved. |
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<tesst> |
the files in \templates\ are blank... |
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<tesst> |
I'll see if there's an easy css editor for clueless people like me |
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<joel> |
look in your python install Python24\share\trac\templates |
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<joel> |
i use dreamwever for the css editor, google will show you lots of alternatives. |
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<tesst> |
ah |
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<tesst> |
ok, I was looking in /scripts/ |
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<joel> |
took me a while to figure that out.. be sure to make a backup of the file first, incase you have to revert. |
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<tesst> |
ok |
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<tesst> |
thanks |
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<tesst> |
do you know of a freeware CSS editor that's WYSIWYG (ie, you modify it using mouse-clicks and it creates the code) |
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<joel> |
not off hand, but again.. use google to search.. for those items.. you should find something.; |
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<Thanatermesis> |
is posible to put more than one SVN repository to trac ? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #588 (enhancement closed): new ticket attachments <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/588#comment:13> || Ticket #588 (enhancement reopened): new ticket attachments <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/588#comment:12> |
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<retracile> |
Thanatermesis, look at tracforge on trac-hacks.org |
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