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April 17, 2007

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[00:34:40] <qasim> how do we setup the login in trac?
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[00:35:06] <qasim> it states Authentication information not available. I am using Tracd as a server and standard basic installation
[00:37:54] <coderanger> @wiki TracStandalone
[00:37:54] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracStandalone
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[00:47:23] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5161 (defect created): AttributeError with trac-admin <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5161>
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[00:53:24] <qasim> where is the .htdigest file located in apache2?
[00:53:28] <qasim> i mean which directory
[00:56:43] <kop_> wherever your current AuthUserFile directive wants it to be
[00:57:15] <coderanger> qasim: Where ever you put it
[01:00:17] <qasim> thanks
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[01:37:38] <qasim> whenever I want to login it automatically logs me in with my username...I want it to ask for me everytime for username and password
[01:37:42] <qasim> how can we achieve that?
[01:40:29] <coderanger> You would need to use AccountManager
[01:40:48] <qasim> yes which module in it?
[01:40:51] <coderanger> All modern browsers cache HTTP auth credentials for the duration of the session
[01:40:58] <coderanger> Its on trac-hacks
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[01:47:40] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5162 (defect created): Wiki/Blog crash after adding a blog <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5162>
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[02:03:34] <Sonderblade> how do you add users to trac?
[02:04:05] <coderanger> Sonderblade: What are you using for authentication
[02:04:24] <Sonderblade> coderanger: htpasswd, what else?
[02:04:52] <coderanger> Then add them to the htpasswd file
[02:06:23] <Sonderblade> coderanger: but then they have to give me their password
[02:06:44] <coderanger> Indeed, if you want self registration you need AccountManager
[02:08:11] <Sonderblade> coderanger: so trac doesn't ship with a good authentication system by default?
[02:08:51] <Sonderblade> coderanger: my trac is on a shared account (webfaction) so i don't have root access so i think i cant use that plugin?
[02:09:18] <coderanger> Sonderblade: It is designed to be integrated into an existing login infrastructure, as would be present at a company
[02:09:32] <coderanger> AccountManager adds features for in-Trac account management
[02:09:47] <coderanger> And yes, you can use the plugin
[02:10:08] <Sonderblade> that sounds great
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[02:16:23] <suwapp> hello
[02:17:04] <suwapp> can u help me, i have a problem with the TicketQuery macro
[02:17:16] <coderanger> Don't ask to ask
[02:17:52] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracTermsEs edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTermsEs> || Ticket #5160 (defect closed): error when trying to view html.py <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5160#comment:3>
[02:17:59] <suwapp> [[TicketQuery(version=german&resolution=duplicate, count)]]
[02:18:13] <suwapp> i try to use this and simple queries like that
[02:18:24] <suwapp> but nothing appears in the wiki page
[02:20:44] <coderanger> You have a version called "german"?
[02:21:03] <coderanger> And does it work without the "count"
[02:21:32] <suwapp> no, not with either and yes, i have
[02:21:52] <suwapp> [[TicketQuery(resolution=duplicate)]]
[02:22:03] <coderanger> What about /query?version=german&resolution=duplicate
[02:25:18] <suwapp> it works without resolution
[02:25:27] <suwapp> [[TicketQ also
[02:27:40] <suwapp> then what is resolution?
[02:29:33] <coderanger> Does resolution work in a /query URL?
[02:29:56] <suwapp> no
[02:30:05] <coderanger> What version of Trac
[02:31:14] <suwapp> 10.3
[02:31:29] <coderanger> Look for/file a big
[02:32:04] <suwapp> how can i use $USER in a TicketQuery?
[02:32:09] <suwapp> a big?
[02:32:11] <coderanger> You cannot
[02:32:17] <coderanger> s/big/bug/
[02:33:33] <suwapp> ok
[02:34:14] <suwapp> thx
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[02:39:07] <remiss> hmm.. is the webadmin thing included in 0.10.x?
[02:39:25] <coderanger> remiss: No
[02:39:31] <coderanger> You need to install the plugin
[02:39:52] <remiss> ok, thanks
[02:40:16] <remiss> ah, that was 0.11
[02:42:52] <remiss> hmm.. I stuffed it in the projects plugin directory and restarted apache, but the admin button isn't showing up
[02:43:09] <hackeron> hey, I'm looking at the image macro in trac but I can't figure out how to add an image caption like [media:image.png|caption text] in mediawiki. How would I add an image caption?
[02:43:59] <coderanger> remiss: Check the log to see that it is loading
[02:44:05] <hackeron> I tried title="something" longdesc="something", neither helped :(
[02:44:26] <coderanger> hackeron: You would have to either make another macro, use HTML, or just put the text user it
[02:44:31] <coderanger> er, under it
[02:44:52] <hackeron> coderanger: how do I put the text under it?
[02:44:54] <coderanger> hackeron: The macro literally just handles images
[02:44:57] <hackeron> coderanger: say I have 3 images side by side
[02:45:09] <coderanger> hackeron: [[Image()]][[BR]]Text
[02:45:10] <hackeron> coderanger: and I want text under each
[02:45:14] <coderanger> hackeron: HTML
[02:45:22] <coderanger> (or make your own macro)
[02:45:22] <hackeron> :(
[02:46:11] <remiss> coderanger: hmm.. where is that log?
[02:46:19] <coderanger> hackeron: Trac's macros don't try to be "I do everything" like mediawiki's
[02:46:22] <coderanger> @logging
[02:46:22] <evil_twin> coderanger: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[02:46:27] <coderanger> remiss: There
[02:46:40] <remiss> ok, thanks
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[02:48:14] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by pakorn@themonkstudio.com <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
[02:50:18] <remiss> coderanger: no errors in the projects log file
[02:50:25] <coderanger> remiss: But do you see it loading
[02:50:39] <coderanger> make sure you set the log to debug, and restart the webserver
[02:50:58] <remiss> no, it's not loading
[02:51:08] <remiss> it's at debug and I've restarted
[02:51:12] <coderanger> remiss: What exactly did you put in the plugins/ folder
[02:51:34] <remiss> Download for Trac 0.9.3 or later (Python 2.4)
[02:51:40] <remiss> renamed to tracwebadmin.egg or something
[02:51:50] <remiss> ehm
[02:52:22] <coderanger> remiss: easy_install http://svn.edgewall.com/repos/trac/sandbox/webadmin/ -md /path/to/env/plugins
[02:52:59] <remiss> that figures.. I have easy_installf or python 2.3
[02:54:15] <remiss> installing setuptools for 2.4 fixes things, thanks coderanger
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[02:55:14] <remiss> now.. to get the ticket delete and spam plugins
[02:56:14] <suwapp> hmm, ist there possible to make a user rights to comment and resolve a ticket, without changing properties?
[02:56:41] <suwapp> like right TICKET_MODIFY & !TICKET_CHGPROP
[03:04:26] <coderanger> suwapp: The comment only is done via TICKET_APPEND
[03:04:32] <coderanger> But then they can't close tickets
[03:06:09] <suwapp> the point would be that they souldn't change the properties
[03:06:33] <suwapp> i am just looking for some plugin,maybe i find what i want
[03:06:59] <coderanger> suwapp: It could be done as a plugin, though I don't know of one to do it
[03:07:16] <suwapp> okay
[03:07:26] <suwapp> thanks
[03:08:05] <coderanger> normally I would offer to make it, but I am waist deep in insanity already
[03:08:27] <suwapp> oh, no problem
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[03:49:12] <mov> is there a query equivalent of $USER in report?
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[04:20:23] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5208]: Another quick #5099 related fix, for rendering embedded diffs. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5208>
[04:22:57] <suwapp> can i make groups of versions or components by milestones?
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[05:27:48] <qasim> i am receiving this error whenever I start to initiate the tracd server/build/buildd/subversion-1.3.2/subversion/libsvn_subr/path.c:114: svn_path_join: Assertion `is_canonical ( base, blen)' failed.
[05:27:48] <qasim> Aborted (core dumped)
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[06:01:05] <sdehaan> hello #trac, i'm stuck in a bit of a debate about the difference between milestones & versions, can someone point me to an explanation about the difference between the two and when to use which one?
[06:04:45] <suwapp> pff, i just installed the ticketdelete and i have a problem with it
[06:04:52] <suwapp> Traceback (most recent call last):
[06:04:53] <suwapp> File "D:\run\python\Lib\site-packages\trac\web\main.py", line 387, in dispatch_request
[06:04:53] <suwapp> dispatcher.dispatch(req)
[06:04:53] <suwapp> File "D:\run\python\Lib\site-packages\trac\web\main.py", line 237, in dispatch
[06:04:53] <suwapp> resp = chosen_handler.process_request(req)
[06:04:53] <suwapp> File "d:\run\python\lib\site-packages\t.egg\webadmin\web_ui.py", line 109, in process_request
[06:04:55] <suwapp> path_info)
[06:04:57] <suwapp> ValueError: too many values to unpack
[06:05:41] <misc> i laso have problem with ticketdelete, didn't found the time to look at it
[06:07:53] <suwapp> so back to mysqlcc
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[06:16:41] <qasim> how to upgrade the subversion in trac...currently i am using 1.3.2
[06:17:17] <suwapp> how can i display timeline/ticket changes in a wikipage?
[06:17:32] <suwapp> i was reading the traclinks, but i didnt found it
[06:26:55] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracTermsDe edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTermsDe>
[06:27:26] <joel> Hi, anyone know of a plugin to allow multiple file attachments in a ticket?
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[07:10:39] <kyle> sdehaan: afaik, a milestone is a set of functionalities
[07:10:56] <kyle> sdehaan: several milestones can conform a new version - or not
[07:11:49] <sdehaan> kyle: thanks
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[07:13:26] <mst> why the hell would a trac.fcgi instance that strace is sat at 'accept' be using 95% CPU?
[07:13:52] <mst> ... and 137Mb RAM
[07:14:41] <qasim> ERROR python:/build/buildd/subversion-1.3.2/subversion/libsvn_subr/path.c:114: svn_path_join: Assertion `is_canonical (base, blen)' failed
[07:14:51] <qasim> any idea why am I getting this?
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[07:48:57] <seemant> does anyone know if cboos fixed the ticket query execute thingy to accept None as a request ?
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[08:17:42] <gordonjcp> hey folks
[08:18:00] <gordonjcp> how can I update a trac 0.9 site to trac 0.10
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[08:31:26] <gordonjcp> also, how can I download things from trac-hacks.org?
[08:32:45] <gordonjcp> To create a tag, follow these steps:
[08:32:47] <gordonjcp> oops
[08:33:05] <gordonjcp> when I try and wget the .zip file links, I get the web page, not the file
[08:34:17] <retracile> gordonjcp: can you give an example? (like the URL?)
[08:35:23] <gordonjcp> retracile: http://trac-hacks.org/changeset/latest/tracblogplugin?old_path=/&filename=tracblogplugin&format=zip
[08:38:10] <retracile> When I click on that link, I get a zip file containing the plugin source...
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[08:57:59] <gordonjcp> retracile: try wgetting it
[08:58:17] <gordonjcp> how often do you want to install a trac plugin on your desktop pc?
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[09:10:38] <retracile> gordonjcp: When I want to experiment with it.... :)
[09:11:50] <gordonjcp> fairy nuff
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[09:18:23] <retracile> gordonjcp: You can usually do something like: "easy_install http://trac-hacks.org/......./0.10" or similar to download & install the plugin in one step.
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[09:20:33] <retracile> gordonjcp: I think you should be able to do "easy_install http://trac-hacks.org/svn/tracblogplugin/0.10/"
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[09:25:26] <gordonjcp> yeah, I just downloaded it and scp'ed it over
[09:25:37] <gordonjcp> I still need to figure out how to get my wiki content into 0.10
[09:25:57] <retracile> what do you mean?
[09:26:00] <gordonjcp> but now it's after 5pm and I'm going home ;-)
[09:26:11] <gordonjcp> I have an existing site that uses 0.9<something>
[09:26:12] <retracile> Ah, good for you. See ya 'round. :)
[09:26:25] <gordonjcp> http://www.nekosynth.co.uk <- there it is
[09:26:32] <gordonjcp> and my new server has 0.10
[09:26:55] <gordonjcp> anyway, it's a job for later
[09:26:59] <gordonjcp> ttyl
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[09:33:45] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5163 (task closed): junit-4.3.jar nicht im Repository enthalten <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5163#comment:1>
[09:39:23] <boorad> coderanger: you around?
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[10:03:53] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5123 (defect closed): cannot display source which ' ' tag in it <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5123#comment:2>
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[10:37:42] <Sonderblade> can you host static html files using trac?
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[11:15:42] <matt_good> Sonderblade: you can put some static docs in the "htdocs" folder of your projects, but that's really meant more for CSS, images, JS, etc. for customizing your site
[11:23:16] <datallah> I'd like for the reporter to be able to resolve a ticket even though they don't have TICKET_MODIFY permissions - any ideas how to accomplish this?
[11:25:23] <matt_good> datallah: it'll be possible once the WorkFlow changes are merged, but I don't know of a workaround in the meantime
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[11:25:49] <johnjosephbachir> is easy-install part of python?
[11:25:55] <johnjosephbachir> it doesn't seem to be on my system
[11:26:02] <matt_good> johnjosephbachir: no, it's part of setuptools
[11:26:19] <datallah> matt_good: that isn't planned for 0.11, right?
[11:26:32] <johnjosephbachir> matt_good: thanks
[11:26:42] <matt_good> datallah: I don't think so
[11:26:50] <datallah> ok, fair enough. Thanks.
[11:26:58] <matt_good> you can try the sandbox branch
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[11:27:22] <matt_good> well, actually I guess there has been some push to get it done before 0.11, but I don't know what'll happen
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[11:28:11] <datallah> It would be nice to be able to do that, but it isn't a major problem, so I'll just wait patiently.
[11:30:37] <retracile> matt_good: The workflow branch is waiting for review... other than that, it's ready for trunk.
[11:32:15] <retracile> datallah: You'd need to make a small plugin to do what you describe, even with WorkFlow. But the codereview plugin in the sample-plugins/workflow directory would provide some guidance there.
[11:32:45] <Sonderblade> matt_good: thanks, how do i access the content put in htdocs?
[11:33:37] <datallah> retracile: is it something that a relatively simple plugin could do in 0.10, or would that be more effort than it is worth?
[11:34:33] <retracile> datallah: I'm not as familiar with the .10 code (so take this with a grain of salt), but I think it wouldn't be feasible with a plugin on 0.10.
[11:34:58] <retracile> datallah: That said, coderanger is the plugin master around here, and might have an idea.
[11:35:27] * johnjosephbachir is cursed with administrating rhel 3 boxes
[11:35:50] <datallah> ok
[11:48:33] <matt_good> Sonderblade: /your-project/chrome/site/the-file
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[12:25:25] <kyle> johnjosephbachir: you have my condolences
[12:25:26] <kyle> :)
[12:25:41] <johnjosephbachir> kyle: thanks
[12:26:11] <gordonjcp> johnjosephbachir: oooh ouch
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[12:28:52] <johnjosephbachir> yip.
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[12:31:44] * kyle cursed with a bunch of rhel3, rhel4, centos, suse 9.x, novell suse 9, and solaris in several incarnations
[12:31:47] * kyle scareed
[12:31:49] <kyle> scared
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[12:34:20] <johnjosephbachir> kyle: all running trac?
[12:36:08] <johnjosephbachir> I wish more plugin authors would make a few notes in their docs on system requirements. anyone know if batchmodifyplugin can run on python 2.3.4?
[12:38:24] <kyle> johnjosephbachir: no, actually nagios =)
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[12:44:42] <Davey> is there any way to do [r1:r2] and restrict it to a single branch?
[12:45:23] <johnjosephbachir> Davey- is your site public
[12:45:31] <Davey> johnjosephbachir: no
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[12:45:59] <johnjosephbachir> (i'm not sure of the answer but i was going to experiment on your site if it was public :) )
[12:46:00] <gordonjcp> kyle: scareed, scared and possibly scarred as well?
[12:46:21] <Davey> johnjosephbachir: feel free to make suggestions, I can test ;)
[12:46:26] <kyle> heh
[12:46:35] <kyle> gordonjcp: and flamed
[12:46:39] <retracile> Davey: specify the path of the branch?
[12:46:46] <johnjosephbachir> http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset?new=branches%2F0.5-stable%40247&old=branches%2F0.5-stable%40236
[12:47:07] <johnjosephbachir> Davey: ⇡
[12:47:07] <Davey> retracile: thats what I want, yes
[12:48:19] <johnjosephbachir> Davey: navigate to the path/file you want to compare, then hit "revision log" in the upper right
[12:49:23] <Davey> yeah, I have that URL, not as nice a [123:456] placeholder thuogh :)
[12:49:32] <johnjosephbachir> ohhh, i see.
[12:50:38] <Davey> would be nice if I could do something like [/branches/branch@123:456] or something
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[12:52:37] <retracile> @TracLinks
[12:52:37] <evil_twin> retracile: Error: "TracLinks" is not a valid command.
[12:52:42] <retracile> diff:trunk/trac@3538//sandbox/vc-refactoring@3539
[12:52:50] <retracile> @wiki TracLinks
[12:52:50] <evil_twin> retracile: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLinks
[12:52:56] <Davey> looks like [123:456/path] might work
[12:53:00] <Davey> yeah, just got that evil_twin :)
[12:54:03] <Davey> *awesome* :D
[12:54:23] <Davey> thanks evil_twin, johnjosephbachir :)
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[12:54:48] <J_P> hi all
[12:55:05] <johnjosephbachir> nice.
[12:55:19] <J_P> people, what is better way to do backup from trac database ? I'm using default databaase : sqlite
[12:55:41] <retracile> trac-admin hotcopy?
[12:55:48] <johnjosephbachir> trac-admin has a hotcopy option
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[13:00:35] <Sonderblade> trac uses MM/DD/YY date style, is it possible to change that?
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[13:09:52] <matt_good> Sonderblade: it's based on the server's locale settings
[13:10:09] <matt_good> Sonderblade: there's a FAQ entry about it
[13:10:31] <Sonderblade> matt_good: thanks, would be nice if it was trac-configurable
[13:10:31] <coderanger> boorad: Yo
[13:10:39] <coderanger> Sonderblade: DRY
[13:10:58] <boorad> coderanger: check email
[13:11:24] <coderanger> boorad: I saw
[13:11:28] <Sonderblade> coderanger: yes i am, thanks for asking :)
[13:11:49] <coderanger> boorad: I don't graduate until '08, and OLPC owns my soul for the summer
[13:12:02] <boorad> ok, just checking
[13:12:12] <coderanger> Thanks though :)
[13:12:21] <boorad> np
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[13:13:54] <coderanger> Its cool that places are looking for django experience though
[13:14:34] <boorad> it's on my resume, and not shocking, b/c Django started as a newspaper system.
[13:14:49] <boorad> but a bit junior...
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[13:15:03] <boorad> I'm now an expensive PHB ;)
[13:16:40] * coderanger hopes to never be a manager
[13:18:45] * boorad wonders how to do another startup and get back to coding
[13:19:56] <matt_good> Sonderblade: per-user locales should be part of the i18n changes in a future release, but you can configure the locale for just the Trac process if necessary
[13:20:41] <johnjosephbachir> hm. i can't find any documentation on installing plugins without using setuptools
[13:20:57] <matt_good> johnjosephbachir: you can't install plugins without setuptools
[13:21:11] <johnjosephbachir> so i can't install plugins if my system has python 2.3.4?
[13:21:35] <coderanger> johnjosephbachir: Just install setuptools for 2.3
[13:21:43] * johnjosephbachir blinks
[13:21:45] <johnjosephbachir> oh, right.
[13:23:49] <pacopablo> afternoon all
[13:25:08] <retracile> howdy!
[13:25:24] <pacopablo> so, in the trac sql parameters escaping, does it handle lists?
[13:25:38] <johnjosephbachir> coderanger: i can't find any documentation on the different versions of setuptools, nor can i even find any previous versions, and they don't have any tags in their repository http://svn.python.org/projects/sandbox/trunk/setuptools/ ... sorry if i'm missing something obvious, if you could just point me in the right direction that would be great
[13:25:47] <pacopablo> so that I can do "IN"
[13:25:56] <coderanger> johnjosephbachir: Just run ez_setup.py
[13:26:23] <johnjosephbachir> ohhh, it figures all of this out for me?
[13:26:31] <pacopablo> yup
[13:26:59] <johnjosephbachir> ahhhh
[13:27:01] <johnjosephbachir> thanks! :-D
[13:29:25] <matt_good> pacopablo: not automatically
[13:29:36] <pacopablo> matt_good: k, I'll hack around it ;)
[13:30:33] <matt_good> yeah, you'll have to do " IN (%s) " % (','.join(['%s'] * len(args))
[13:30:45] <matt_good> dunno if there's an example in the code somewhere
[13:31:27] <coderanger> Look in datamover's query builder
[13:33:01] <matt_good> I had written some useful helper methods for constructing SQL queries in an old project, but I lost them in a HDD crash
[13:33:19] <pacopablo> what? no backup :)
[13:33:23] <matt_good> I wonder if I could get that code from my old company :)
[13:33:50] <pacopablo> if they're anything like my old company, you'll only hav eto pay $300K for it :)
[13:34:11] <coderanger> pacopablo: Not everyone works for a crazy old lady ;-)
[13:34:19] <pacopablo> true
[13:34:37] <matt_good> pacopablo: haha, I forgot about that story
[13:34:48] <matt_good> you should submit that to the WTF some day
[13:35:00] <pacopablo> hehe, maybe I will
[13:35:04] * cmlenz wonders what story that was
[13:35:17] <matt_good> cmlenz: yeah, you missed some good stuff at PyCon
[13:35:28] <pacopablo> cmlenz: the spontaneous combustion of my former employer
[13:35:29] <cmlenz> ah :-(
[13:35:57] <coderanger> And then her assumption that she could sell Trac back to people
[13:37:55] <cmlenz> huh
[13:38:09] <pacopablo> well, I did some custom plugins
[13:38:38] <pacopablo> which were really neat, but entirely geared for the way my for