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April 20, 2007

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[01:27:48] <sanoi> Hello, I have a question about trac.ini.. Trac complains when I set default_handler to "WikiModule".. What if I'd like to have the Wiki as default..?
[01:28:40] <muks> it is the wiki by default isn't it?
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[01:29:33] <sanoi> oh, let me check that.
[01:37:39] <sanoi> No you see I get this error, even when I have removed the line default_handler from the ini..
[01:37:42] <sanoi> Cannot find an implementation of the "IRequestHandler" interface named "WikiModule". Please update the option trac.default_handler in trac.ini.
[01:38:02] <sanoi> trac 0.10..
[01:38:46] <muks> default_handler = WikiModule
[01:38:52] <muks> i have that in my trac.ini
[01:40:59] <sanoi> can you please give me your [components] section..?
[01:43:05] <muks> i don't have one
[01:43:16] <sanoi> humm..
[01:48:41] <sanoi> nevermind. this fixed it: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TagsPlugin/Installation
[01:48:50] <sanoi> had to change it to TagsWikiModule
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[02:10:21] <pat> hello!
[02:11:43] <pat> I've got a little problem. I was just hit by a spammer.. is there anyway I can delete those spam posts on the ticket?
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[02:21:16] <technomancy> apparently there's a bug with clearsilver+python2.5 on ubuntu (64-bit systems): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clearsilver/+bug/86685
[02:21:31] <technomancy> is the best way around this to use python 2.4?
[02:21:38] <technomancy> if so, how is that done?
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[02:25:28] <technomancy> never mind; figured it out
[02:25:42] <technomancy> (changed the shebang line in /usr/bintracd)
[02:25:50] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5187 (defect closed): test atsig <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5187#comment:2> || Ticket #5187 (defect created): test atsig <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5187>
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[02:30:02] <jorwah> hi
[02:30:17] <jorwah> anyone that could help me with an "hack" of Trac?
[02:30:33] <jorwah> at least tell me if it's possible or not
[02:31:24] <jorwah> Anyway, I'll post my stuff here... and hope I'll get some answer
[02:33:27] <jorwah> I have added a few custom-fields in Trac, among one of them is a "stage" to show where in the requirement process the ticket is. So the other fields should be filled in by other ppl than the reporter and therefor I dont want it to be shown in that stage
[02:33:34] <jorwah> For instance:
[02:34:01] <jorwah> at stage "Request", the fields time-estmation shouldn't be shown
[02:34:13] <jorwah> but at the stage "Requirement" it should be
[02:34:40] <jorwah> so... what I have tried to do is make the least changes into the actual python-code just the templates
[02:36:11] <technomancy> bugger... switched to python 2.4 and now it consistently core-dumps. =\
[02:36:19] <technomancy> i guess i need to run as cgi
[02:36:24] <jorwah> it should be doable there.... but I need the custom-fields to have an extra attribute like "customfield1.showatstage = Requirement"
[02:36:41] <jorwah> can I add that easy in the custom-fields section in the ini?
[02:38:31] <jorwah> to be more exact in my question: Can one add extra attribute into customfields and use them in the code?
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[02:57:52] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5188 (enhancement created): "Assign to" List <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5188> || Ticket #5187 (defect reopened): test atsig <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5187#comment:3>
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[03:17:54] <osimons> jorwah: nope
[03:23:30] <osimons> jorwah: As i am sure you have figured out, custom fields cannot have logic and dependencies between them. However, in code everything is possible, but haven't heard of anyone that has attempted it.
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[03:55:59] <jorwah> Yes, that I know osimons.
[03:57:09] <jorwah> But I was thinking that that could be possible to add another property to the customfield without to much coding. Like the customfield1.label add customfield1.showafterstage
[03:57:17] <jorwah> but thats not possible then?
[03:57:56] <jorwah> can someone point out where the custom fields are coded (classes whatever)?
[03:58:13] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5186 (defect closed): Unsupported version control "svn" <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5186#comment:1> || Ticket #5188 (enhancement closed): "Assign to" List <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5188#comment:1> || Ticket #5175 (defect created): tried to change owner of a ticket, got an error message <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5175>
[03:58:37] <osimons> problem is that you want the template logic to reflect it - essentially make it "hidden" i guess. actually removing the field might have other consequences (as it will not be posted - unsure what happens then)
[04:01:07] <osimons> this is where custom fields are fetched: http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/ticket/api.py#L193
[04:02:45] <osimons> and they get rendered on the ticket template somewhere - check. http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/ticket/templates/ticket.html
[04:03:26] <osimons> havent looked at 0.11 yet, but there are no gory details here - a simple fetch of info, and put out the fields in the correct order and of the correct type
[04:05:28] <osimons> now, if I were to write a plugin to modify this logic, my starting point would be the IRequestFilter post_processor(), and modify the custom field data to set type "hidden" when applicable. Or something like that...
[04:07:38] <osimons> my current know-how of custom fields is essentially based on 0.10 that i use - and what i have seen on 0.11 so far.
[04:09:44] <osimons> however, with new workflow (http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WorkFlow) it seems one of the goals is to make custom fields "pluggable" - that is the fields and the logic surrounding them can be supplied in a separate plugin, changing behaviour, and adding custom types that behave different from standard ones.
[04:10:23] <jorwah> ok, thank you osimons
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[04:42:26] <kringalf> hi guys, i got a problem getting trac to send notifications, i get the following log entry: ERROR: Failure sending notification on creation of ticket #14: (535, '5.7.0 Error: authentication failed: authentication failure')
[04:42:28] <kringalf> any ideas?
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[06:20:08] <ralf-x> I'm back!
[06:20:18] <buggzzy> kingralf: sound like that you have enabled smtp_password and or smtp_user ... maybe these are wrong
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[06:29:02] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5189 (enhancement created): Feature request: add --no-notification option to trac-post-commit-hook <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5189>
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[06:40:25] <cboos> hello all
[06:40:29] <cboos> hello cmlenz
[06:40:42] <cmlenz> hi
[06:40:55] <cboos> it seems the time is ripe for 0.10.4
[06:41:01] <cboos> do you have some time?
[06:41:23] <cmlenz> not much
[06:41:30] <cboos> this evening?
[06:41:30] <cmlenz> you mean push out the release now?
[06:41:55] <cboos> well, prepare it a bit yes
[06:42:39] <cboos> I can change the version info prepare the .tar.gz etc. but not tag it, and move the packages at the right place on the ftp
[06:43:04] <cmlenz> yeah, I can do that
[06:43:10] <cmlenz> I can also do the packages, no problem
[06:43:36] <cboos> ok, so wait, I'll tell you when you can tag it
[06:43:43] <cmlenz> if you do the version info, update TracDownload, etc
[06:43:54] <cmlenz> I think we can manage it :-)
[06:44:23] <cboos> yes, sure, I'd do the whole lot if I could ;-)
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[06:49:07] <cboos> cmlenz: ok, I think you can tag this http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5235
[06:49:54] <cmlenz> oh, why are we putting out an rc?
[06:50:02] <cmlenz> I thought simply 0.4
[06:50:04] <cmlenz> 0.10.4, even
[06:50:07] <cboos> we did last week
[06:50:17] <cboos> to collect last minute bugs
[06:50:24] <cmlenz> oh
[06:50:27] <cmlenz> stupid me
[06:50:28] <cmlenz> sure
[06:50:35] <cboos> there was one, I fixed it, so now I think it's ok for the real 0.10.4
[06:50:40] <cmlenz> okay
[06:56:01] <cmlenz> tagged
[06:56:43] <cmlenz> I'll make the packages and upload them
[06:57:00] <cboos> the win32 installer as well? otherwise I could do it, np
[06:57:16] <cmlenz> yeah, I can do that too
[06:57:31] <cboos> ok, fine. I already edited the TracDownload page.
[06:58:01] <cboos> (not saved yet, I'll wait until the packages are in place)
[06:58:09] <cmlenz> give 10 minutes
[06:58:13] <cmlenz> give me, I mean
[06:58:15] <cboos> sure
[06:59:12] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5236]: Tag the 0.10.4 release. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5236> || Changeset [5235]: 0.10.4: finalize version information before the release. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5235>
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[07:04:13] <ralf-x> well crap
[07:04:47] <ralf-x> now the /main trac is throwing 500s
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[07:09:15] <ralf-x> ok silly question
[07:09:21] <ralf-x> with the ticket alert mechanism
[07:10:37] <ralf-x> where does it get your email address from?
[07:11:15] <cboos> ralf-x: from the session settings (see the "Settings" link near the login one?)
[07:11:30] <ralf-x> cboos: oh. Der.
[07:11:34] <ralf-x> *smacks forehead*
[07:11:47] <cboos> otherwise, you can spell out your full e-mail address in the CC: field
[07:11:56] <ralf-x> yea, I don't wanna do that
[07:11:59] <ralf-x> that's lame ;)
[07:12:17] <cmlenz> also, the default domain setting in trac.ini
[07:12:37] <ralf-x> ya, I figured the default domain setting
[07:14:58] <cmlenz> cboos: files uploaded
[07:15:04] <cboos> ok, thanks
[07:15:07] <ralf-x> thanks btw
[07:15:52] <ralf-x> ohh... I get 500s when moving between /projects/foo and /main
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[07:18:33] <angrymike> hi all
[07:18:43] <angrymike> anyone know an easy way to center an image in the wiki ?
[07:18:53] * cboos is testing trac-0.10.4.win32.exe
[07:21:09] <ralf-x> anether silly question
[07:21:23] <ralf-x> is there a way to directly associate SVN commits with tickets?
[07:24:22] <angrymike> ralf-x: you can use the post-commit stuff for that
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[07:26:11] <{joel}> Hey.. an anyone connect to http://trac-hacks.org/ ???
[07:26:40] <alect> it's overloaded
[07:27:04] <{joel}> amazing! sucky server?
[07:27:06] <alect> i am just configuring a connection throttler
[07:27:17] <alect> so it's down while i do that
[07:27:21] <alect> no, just many connections
[07:27:45] <cboos> hi alect
[07:27:51] <{joel}> ah.. cool, thanks..
[07:28:16] <retracile> hi alect
[07:28:34] <cboos> cmlenz: all looks OK with the win32 installer, so I assume the 0.10.4 release is done.
[07:28:43] <alect> hey cboos
[07:28:44] <cboos> thanks a lot!
[07:28:59] <asmodai> alect! cboos!
[07:28:59] <cmlenz> cboos: wanna send out the announcement?
[07:29:04] <asmodai> cmlenz
[07:29:19] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Milestone 0.10.4 completed <http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.10.4> || TracDownload edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDownload>
[07:29:23] <cboos> cmlenz: well, usually it's still jonas doing it
[07:29:41] <cboos> alect: as you're having the trachacks down, you could even take this opportunity to upgrade to the brand new 0.10.4 release ;-)
[07:30:15] <cmlenz> cboos: I'm sure jonas would be okay with you doing it in this case, seeing how he's not here
[07:30:30] <alect> hey asmodai
[07:30:37] <alect> cboos: definitely ;)
[07:31:35] <cboos> cmlenz: OK, I'll have a try then
[07:31:53] <cmlenz> 99% of it is just copy&paste anyway
[07:32:12] <cmlenz> just don't forget to replace the version and date everywhere
[07:32:16] <cboos> yes, where's that 0.10.4rc1 announcement ... ? ok
[07:32:19] <cmlenz> (also in the subject ;-) )
[07:33:09] <cboos> ... though I'm not sure I can post to trac-announce
[07:33:17] <cboos> (read-only list)
[07:33:25] <cmlenz> yeah, jonas will moderate you through
[07:34:44] <cboos> oh, bugger, no
[07:34:57] <cboos> there's a practical problem for me sending the e-mail
[07:35:38] <cboos> I'm at my parents home, and sending e-mail not through my normal account...
[07:36:11] <cboos> well, maybe I can send it from google directly ...
[07:36:48] <cmlenz> heh
[07:42:11] <retracile> alect: a significant missing piece of workflow was pointed out on trac-dev. I haven't had a chance to address it yet, but your input on it would be welcome. :)
[07:42:27] <alect> hmmm, jonas' echoping hits /timeline once every two seconds every couple of minutes
[07:42:42] <alect> rectracile: i saw that yeah
[07:43:01] <alect> the query stuff was a bit more difficult iirc
[07:45:21] <retracile> alect, oh goody.
[07:46:09] <retracile> (And I foolishly thought I was "done" with this part of workflow. *sigh*)
[07:46:52] <alect> :(
[07:47:03] <alect> from memory, there are a couple of places where the status is hard coded
[07:47:12] <alect> they need to be modified to use an extension point that fetches the state
[07:47:44] <alect> iirc we discussed "closed" state flags a while back..ie. which states are "closed"
[07:49:35] <cboos> retracile: I think 'new' and 'closed' can be assumed to be always there ... fixed start and end points for the workflow.
[07:49:52] <cboos> in particular, relying on 'closed' is important in the roadmap module
[07:50:00] <retracile> cboos: agreed
[07:50:32] <cboos> we could even check for those when reading the custom workflow, making sure they are present
[07:50:34] <retracile> alect: allowing the user to redefine what "closed" means is more than I want to tackle at this point.
[07:50:42] <asmodai> From most change management frameworks you have 1 point of beginning and 1 point of end.
[07:51:48] <retracile> Yeah, though people will want to be able to add more "resolution" options.
[07:52:03] <cboos> cmlenz: ok, the announcement mails are there on Trac-users and Trac-dev.
[07:52:30] <cboos> Looks like I got them right, even the date is today's date ;-)
[07:52:33] <asmodai> new (, open) and closed are states, and you can close with different resolutions methinks.
[07:52:40] <cboos> (in my part of the world at least)
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[07:52:52] <asmodai> Having multiple closed states leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate to suffering.
[07:52:58] <cboos> he !
[07:53:03] <jborg> hi guys
[07:53:04] <cboos> jborg: welcome, just in time ;-)
[07:53:05] <alect> jborg!
[07:53:06] <asmodai> Talk about the devil :)
[07:53:14] <asmodai> Hej jborg, hur star det till? :)
[07:53:17] <jborg> I just noticed the release note in my inbox
[07:53:21] <retracile> cboos: Yes, agreed on states vs resolutions.
[07:53:27] <cboos> right, I've sent the 0.10.4 annoucement minutes ago
[07:53:38] <cboos> but I couldn't sent it on trac-announce though
[07:53:48] <cboos> that's your job ;-)
[07:53:49] <jborg> cboos: oh, hang on
[07:54:00] <alect> jborg: would it be possible to limit the rate of echoping requests? it seems to do 20 or so every couple of minutes
[07:54:16] <alect> (when you have a moment :))
[07:55:09] <cboos> alect: seen on trachacks: "Powered by Trac 0.10.4dev" ...
[07:55:23] <cboos> quite obsolete ;-)
[07:55:41] <cboos> (if you wait a few minutes, you could even be the first to get a 0.10.5dev running ;-)
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[07:56:12] <jborg> cboos: if you join the announce group I can make you a manager
[07:56:13] <alect> aha!
[07:56:19] <alect> some fucker is using http://www.httrack.com/ on trac-hacks
[07:56:21] <cboos> ok, wait
[07:56:26] <alect> that is uncool
[07:56:36] <alect> hah!
[07:56:41] <alect> ok ok, i'll upgrade
[07:56:50] <jborg> alect: sure, I'll have a look at it soon
[07:57:32] <cboos> jborg, done
[07:58:23] <cboos> alect: http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5237 hurry up if you want to be the first ;-)
[07:58:52] <alect> keep yer pants on!
[07:59:09] <jborg> cboos: done
[07:59:15] <cboos> ok, thanks
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[07:59:53] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5237]: 0.10.5dev: updating version info. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5237>
[08:00:25] <alect> fyi, mod_bwshare rocks
[08:01:24] * alect hopes this db upgrade will work with postgres
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[08:02:42] <cboos> yeah. I suppose it will work ;-)
[08:06:05] <alect> http://trac-hacks.org/about ;)
[08:06:31] <cboos> woo hoo !
[08:06:44] <jborg> btw, sorry for not being able to help with the release this time, I got the flu a few days ago and today is the first day I'm back on my feet.
[08:06:47] <jborg> anything more left to do?
[08:06:53] <jborg> Is freshmeat updated?
[08:07:03] <cboos> ah probably not
[08:07:33] <cboos> btw, the rc1 was a good idea, there was one bug left with the resync refactoring...
[08:07:46] <cboos> hopefully the last one! we'll see ;-)
[08:08:21] <jborg> I hope so, I'm a bit nervous since 0.10.4 is the first stable release requiring a schema upgrade
[08:08:52] <cboos> mmh, didn't that happen in the 0.9.x line as well?
[08:08:58] <cboos> I'm not sure
[08:09:26] <cboos> anyway, I've documented in the milestone page how to go back to 0.10.3 if needed
[08:10:20] <jborg> ok, good
[08:10:53] <cboos> jborg: yesterday, I was having a look at the tickets, trying to figure out if there were a lot that were not sticking to our "milestone set - resolution fixed" rule
[08:11:22] <cboos> and indeed there are a lot of fixed tickets with no milestone (those need to be fixed manually)
[08:11:45] <cboos> and a lot of milestone set for tickets with a different resolution -> those could be fixed at the db level
[08:12:03] <cboos> (different resolution than "fixed" I mean)
[08:12:49] <cboos> something like: update ticket set milestone = '' where status = 'closed' and resolution <> 'fixed';
[08:13:03] <ralf-x> ok, silly question
[08:13:09] <ralf-x> can you assign a ticket to more than 1 person?
[08:13:20] <ralf-x> just tried adding it to 'user1, user2'. it accepted it
[08:13:24] <cboos> not that silly; there's an open ticket about that iIRC
[08:13:26] <ralf-x> but I don't know if it works
[08:13:30] <pacopablo> morning
[08:13:42] <retracile> morning :)
[08:14:11] <cboos> ralf-x:
[08:14:16] <cboos> @ticket 2662
[08:14:16] <evil_twin> cboos: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2662
[08:14:19] <alect> yo paco
[08:14:24] <pacopablo> morning alect
[08:14:50] <alect> hmmmmmmm
[08:15:07] <alect> i just managed to get myself blocked from trac-hacks for 1300 seconds
[08:15:13] <alect> by doing an svn checkout of the entire tree
[08:15:16] * alect fixes that
[08:15:21] <retracile> heh.
[08:15:25] <pacopablo> nice
[08:15:55] <cboos> ok, I have to go... see you in a couple of hours
[08:16:15] <pacopablo> later
[08:19:34] <ralf-x> cboos: hmm ok
[08:19:55] <alect> cya
[08:20:53] <jborg> alect: I've now reconfigured smokeping to only do 3 requests every 5 minutes (instead of 20), sounds ok?
[08:22:46] <alect> sounds perfect, thanks jborg
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[08:31:36] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5192 (defect closed): title <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5192#comment:2> || Ticket #5192 (defect created): title <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5192> || Ticket #5191 (defect created): this will be the title <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5191>
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[08:49:54] <ralf-x> ok silly question
[08:50:17] <ralf-x> how can you make it so in your commit message has a link to a ticket number?
[08:50:28] <ralf-x> can I just put "#11" to link to ticket 11?
[08:50:47] <pacopablo> ,use the post-commit-hook
[08:51:04] <pacopablo> it's in the contrib directory
[08:51:09] <ralf-x> hrm
[08:51:19] <pacopablo> well, that's only partly true
[08:51:23] <ralf-x> I thought it was smart enough to just automagically work :)
[08:51:30] <pacopablo> your commit message should be rendered as wiki text
[08:51:36] <ralf-x> ya, ok
[08:51:51] <pacopablo> but if you want to have a commit automaticaaly update a ticket, then use the post-commit-hook
[08:52:06] <ralf-x> naw, I don't want to have it automatically update a ticket yet
[08:52:06] <pacopablo> so a commit message like: Foo refs #11
[08:52:14] <pacopablo> would actually put that comment in ticket #11
[08:52:31] <ralf-x> I just want it so when I go "browse source"
[08:52:34] <ralf-x> and see the commit message
[08:52:41] <ralf-x> it could have a link to ticket 11
[08:52:48] <pacopablo> yeah, just use wiki text, should be converted automatically
[08:53:02] <ralf-x> ok, I'm not a wiki person... can you give a hint?
[08:53:07] <pacopablo> #11
[08:53:13] <ralf-x> lol ok
[08:53:17] <pacopablo> or [ticket:11 foo]
[08:53:21] <pacopablo> etc.
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[08:58:20] <_psychic_> is this an okay place to ask about swig-py issues?
[08:58:58] <_psychic_> I'm getting a Python.h not found error when I try make
[09:00:09] <_psychic_> nm - maybe I've got it
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[09:26:16] <pacopablo> coderanger: awake?
[09:31:54] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5193 (enhancement closed): Wiki should allow "moving" pages around <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5193#comment:1> || Ticket #5194 (defect created): tracBrowser does not display a transformed xml file <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5194> || Ticket #5193 (enhancement created): Wiki should allow "moving" pages around <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5193>
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[09:39:29] <coderanger> pacopablo: Yahr
[09:39:44] <pacopablo> noe sec, I'm getting pissed at a certain other admin
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[09:47:32] <alect> coderanger: i implemented bwshare on trac-hacks...
[09:48:36] <alect> i'm only rate limiting connections
[09:49:31] <coderanger_> alect: Is /svn connection-liimited?
[09:49:49] <alect> it's server wide unfortunately :(
[09:49:54] <pacopablo> coderanger: I'm using private ticket plugin, and even though the user has one ticket he can see, the "View Tickets" menu doesn't show
[09:50:00] <alect> but i tested it with a full checkout and it was fine
[09:50:11] <alect> (i suspect svn uses a persistent connection)
[09:50:47] <alect> the values might need a bit of tweaking
[09:50:52] <coderanger_> pacopablo: Is this with the report module on or off
[09:50:56] <pacopablo> on
[09:51:03] <coderanger_> hrmm
[09:51:16] <coderanger_> Can he navigate directly to the ticker
[09:51:19] <coderanger_> er, ticket
[09:51:21] * alect sleep
[09:51:26] <coderanger_> wow, I can't type today
[09:51:27] <pacopablo> also, is there a way to set the qery as the default, but leave the reports on?
[09:51:29] <alect> see ya guys
[09:51:31] <coderanger_> alect: Gnite :)
[09:51:39] <pacopablo> coderanger_: yeah, he can view the ticket, and he can even get to /query
[09:51:48] <coderanger_> pacopablo: But not /report?
[09:51:55] <pacopablo> haven't actuall tried ;)
[09:51:57] <pacopablo> one sec
[09:52:14] <coderanger_> Perhaps he doesn't have REPORT_VIEW
[09:53:06] <pacopablo> ahh, indeed he doesn't
[09:53:17] <coderanger_> ugh, every time I look at the privatetickets code I get confused, this has to be the biggest hack I've done to date
[09:53:26] <pacopablo> hehe
[09:54:11] <coderanger_> I need to make a chart of the dataflow between its chunks of code so I will remember it
[09:54:44] <pacopablo> ahh, thanks, working as I expect now ;)
[09:55:05] <pacopablo> though, is there a way to set /query as the default, but leave reports available?
[09:56:06] <coderanger_> Not that I know of, though it should be a tiny code hack
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[09:56:19] <coderanger_> You could also do it with the NavHider and NavAdder plugins
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