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April 22, 2007

[00:03:47] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5201 (defect created): error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5201>
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[00:04:55] <kinection> i'm trying to use trac with mysql and when doing 'initenv' on a new repository. I'm getting this error "Failed to initialize environment. (1062, "Duplicate entry '8-irc_bot/trunk/chatbot.pm-D' for key 1")"
[00:05:28] <kinection> is this a subversion problem?
[00:20:48] <pacopablo> no, it's a mysql problem most likely
[00:21:06] <pacopablo> mysql has a limit on the size of a kek
[00:21:08] <pacopablo> er, key
[00:21:26] <pacopablo> and so you're probably getting a collision due to mysql's limitation
[00:21:48] <pacopablo> my suggestion would be to use postgresql if you need high concurrency, or just stick with sqlite.
[00:25:55] <kinection> why would the size of the key be too large in this case? i don't have that many revisions for this repository
[00:26:13] <kinection> and this is being fixed in the next version right?
[00:26:23] <pacopablo> because the key is a combination of the full path and a couple other things I believe
[00:26:33] <kinection> oh...
[00:26:43] <pacopablo> and because mysql is "smart" and uses 3 bytes for every character
[00:27:01] <pacopablo> you effective key length is fairly short
[00:27:21] <pacopablo> supposedly, mysql 5 is supposed to fix that, but I can't vouch for it
[00:27:31] * pacopablo doesn't look very kindly on mysql
[00:27:34] <kinection> it worked with sqlite :/
[00:27:48] <pacopablo> yes, becaue sqlite doesn't have the stupid restriction that mysql does
[00:27:50] <kinection> i have much more experience with mysql over postgres
[00:28:15] <kinection> and don't exactly want to install postgres on the machine, so i'll stick with sqlite for now
[00:28:28] <jhulten_> coderanger: ping...
[00:28:36] <coderanger> yo
[00:28:46] <pacopablo> fair enough. I'd just suggest against using mysql as trac exposes its weaknesses
[00:28:50] <pacopablo> night all
[00:29:03] <jhulten_> Hey. How did you wire your ngnix config and your shell scripts together?
[00:29:46] <jhulten_> Do you have an example of your dev config? I see the auto created portion...
[00:30:15] <coderanger> jhulten_: The autogenerated config is just included in the main one
[00:30:30] <jhulten_> And the index file?
[00:30:31] <coderanger> And the main one is a pretty stock config
[00:30:49] <coderanger> jhulten_: Thats autogenerated along with the config
[00:31:04] <jhulten_> k
[00:38:00] <jhulten_> You have a copt of your proxy.conf posted?
[00:38:08] <jhulten_> s/copt/copy/
[00:42:18] * asmodai wakes.
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[00:59:04] <coderanger> jhulten_: One sec
[00:59:56] <lisppaste5> coderanger pasted "proxy.conf" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/40097
[01:11:25] <Macca> where is the global trac.ini stored ?
[01:12:00] <coderanger> Macca: Something like /usr/share/trac/conf/trac.ini
[01:14:44] <Macca> so anything i put in that trac.ini doesn't need to appear in the project specific trac.ini ?
[01:14:56] <Macca> it's just that i seem to be going through the same setup for lots of projects i set up
[01:14:57] <coderanger> correct
[01:17:11] <Macca> hmm what if i put: database = sqlite:db/trac.db ... in the global trac.ini .. will it use <project relative path>/db/trac.db ... or not?
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[01:28:14] <Macca> is there any way to set global/default permissions?
[01:28:38] <coderanger> Macca: TracForge
[01:31:47] <Macca> wassat ?
[01:32:46] <Macca> What is in subversion is currently useable (though only tested by a few people), but there isn't (yet) any documentation. If you would like to try this out you try finding me on #trac (I am usually on as coderanger).
[01:32:49] <Macca> that's... YOU!
[01:33:02] <coderanger> How 'bout that
[01:33:40] <coderanger> Macca: I write quite a few plugins ;-)
[01:33:47] <Macca> hehe
[01:33:59] <coderanger> I should probably remove the "only a few people" part
[01:34:14] <Macca> :)
[01:36:04] <Macca> ok so currently i have TracEnvParentDir set to /projects .. would i create a project in that directory to be the master .. and all my current projects become client ones ?
[01:36:25] <coderanger> What do you have at /?
[01:36:35] <Macca> my root directory?
[01:36:39] <coderanger> yes
[01:36:50] <Macca> umm normal root directory stuff
[01:36:56] <Macca> /tmp /home /usr /var /proc ...
[01:37:06] <coderanger> I mean in URL space
[01:37:10] <Macca> oh
[01:37:24] <Macca> i access them all via http://projects.mydomain.com/
[01:37:31] <coderanger> Okay, that works
[01:37:54] <coderanger> So at / you would have the master project (s/project/environment/ if you prefer)
[01:38:19] <coderanger> And then TracForge serves the client envs out at /projects/$PROJECT
[01:38:29] <Macca> i see.
[01:38:41] <Macca> so it'd be http://projects.mydomain.com/projects/$PROJECT ?
[01:38:45] <coderanger> The master is where you configure stuff like central groups and permissions
[01:38:47] <coderanger> Yes
[01:38:55] <Macca> i see.
[01:39:13] <coderanger> You can do it with a normal ParentDir setup
[01:39:29] <coderanger> though you will have to disable some features (specificially the nicer project index)
[01:39:45] <coderanger> so /$PROJECT
[01:39:56] <coderanger> where /main or /master is the TracForge master
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[01:46:32] <Macca> there's another project i have that i set up according to the instructions
[01:46:35] <Macca> that's not being listed
[01:49:04] <Macca> how does your tracforge differ from tracforge.net ?
[01:49:59] <Macca> apart from their website not working :S
[01:50:04] <coderanger> one, different developers; two mine does something
[01:50:29] <coderanger> s0undt3ch and I just came up with the same idea independently
[01:50:49] <Macca> aha
[01:51:09] <Macca> hmm. i think i might stay with the old fashioned way for now.
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[01:51:17] <Macca> though will be keeping an eye on tracforge :)
[01:53:57] <coderanger> it evolves in fits and starts
[01:54:06] <coderanger> roughly "whenever I need a feature"
[01:58:11] <Macca> hehe
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[02:27:50] <jborg> alect: you around?
[02:34:30] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5202 (defect created): instance.__dict__ not accessible in restricted mode <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5202> || Ticket #5201 (defect closed): error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5201#comment:1>
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[03:04:39] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5202 (defect closed): instance.__dict__ not accessible in restricted mode <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5202#comment:1>
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[04:05:02] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5200 (defect closed): trac-post-commit-hook works manually but not from Subversion. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5200#comment:5>
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[04:35:10] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracOnOsxDarwinPorts edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnOsxDarwinPorts>
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[07:35:44] <Malesca> Can Trac be configured to use something other than the wiki for its start page? Namely the timeline.
[07:44:08] <coling> You could probably put some funkyness in the WikiStart page to redirect it to the Timeline page (assuming it cannot be changed) - There is probably a Redirect macro or similar.
[07:55:31] <mitsuhiko> alect: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1869 <- i uploaded a genshi.vim, maybe something for you :)
[07:58:51] <Malesca> coling: Thanks.
[07:59:38] <Malesca> Oh, another question… does Trac work in subdirectories (example.com/trac) out of the box? Doesn't work well for me, but this could be because I changed the source a bit to get nicer URLs (hide index.cgi).
[08:04:00] <asmodai> mitsuhiko: owwww
[08:04:07] <asmodai> mitsuhiko: you evil man you
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[08:06:42] <asmodai> mitsuhiko: added :)
[08:06:46] <mitsuhiko> :D
[08:07:50] <mitsuhiko> asmodai: i used the same technique i used for mako.vim, thus you probably need an updated version of python.vim
[08:08:02] <asmodai> Which I probably have
[08:08:13] <asmodai> jups
[08:09:04] <asmodai> mitsuhiko: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=790 -> 2.5.4 had some suggestions from my side ;)
[08:10:01] <mitsuhiko> cool :)
[08:10:07] <mitsuhiko> vim rocks the house ;)
[08:11:43] <asmodai> Sure does.
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[08:25:26] <Malesca> I seem to recall you can create a wiki page with a certain name and it will be the front page, even for people who don't have access to the rest of the wiki. Can't seem to find info on this now, though. Anyone know?
[08:26:57] <maxb> I think if you don't have WIKI_VIEW permissions, you don't get to see any wiki pages, period.
[08:29:12] <maxb> However, you can change what the default view is, I think
[08:29:31] <maxb> looking in my trac.ini, "default_handler = WikiModule" looks like a likely line to edit
[08:31:31] <Malesca> maxb: D'oh. Think that's (looking through the .ini) where I got the notion that this could be changed, but then I apparently forgot :p Thanks"
[08:31:31] <Malesca> !
[08:33:47] <Malesca> Set the default_handler to TimelineModule. Would be better still if I could limit it to non-wiki (SVN only) events, but I suppose that's not feasible.
[08:37:19] <Malesca> Any plugin/whatever to use text instead of a header image?
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[08:42:40] <maxb> Setting [header_logo]src to an empty string seems to work
[08:42:53] <maxb> then it uses the project name instead
[08:44:05] <Malesca> So it does; thanks again! Ah, and about my earlier question – seems Trac works fine in a subdir when I removed the customizations I'd made to web/api.py. Doesn't even seem I needed them to get pretty URLs.
[09:03:12] <Malesca> I don't suppose one can hide the "Search" button from the navbar without disabling the entire search module? The search field is good enough for me.
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[10:33:29] <barun> hi pacopablo
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[11:01:04] <tuxie_> hi all, has anyone tried installing trac on sourceforge?
[11:01:26] <tuxie_> are there any howtos available?
[11:05:57] <mitsuhiko> tuxie_: won't work
[11:06:41] <tuxie_> really =(
[11:10:07] <mitsuhiko> tuxie_: buy yourself a cheap vhost
[11:10:18] <mitsuhiko> very useful things :)
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[11:15:16] <tuxie_> cheap hosts dont provide me with python, svn or ssh mitsuhiko
[11:15:52] <mitsuhiko> tuxie_: well. in germany (and if you know people in german also from other countries) there are couple of cheap vhosts with shell access
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[11:37:27] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #2438 (defect reopened): Safari and multiple trac projects with different authentication <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2438#comment:5>
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[12:39:47] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
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[13:40:21] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #3613 (defect closed): python in free(): warning: page is already free <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3613#comment:8> || Ticket #5200 (defect closed): trac-post-commit-hook works manually but not from Subversion. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5200#comment:7> || Ticket #5200 (defect reopened): trac-post-commit-hook works manually but not from Subversion. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5200#comment:6>
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[16:45:31] <lisppaste5> coderanger pasted "default query patch" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/40122
[16:49:33] <coderanger> hrmm, no cboos
[16:58:13] <coderanger> alect: Ping
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[17:15:14] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5203 (enhancement created): Configurable name in From header <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5203> || Ticket #5196 (defect closed): Unsupported version control system "svn" <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5196#comment:1> || Ticket #2409 (enhancement reopened): Configurable default custom query <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2409#comment:7>
[17:45:23] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5204 (enhancement created): automatically set correct python folder on Windows <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5204>
[18:15:32] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5204 (enhancement closed): automatically set correct python folder on Windows <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5204#comment:2>
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[21:43:38] <technomancy> i've been getting "clearsilver is not installed" errors with CS 0.13 on 64-bit, so i installed 0.14 and it worked
[21:43:55] <technomancy> but then once i started installing plugins, the errors resurfaced
[21:44:35] <technomancy> any idea what would cause that? i installed TracWebAdmin and AccountManager on 0.10
[21:45:09] <technomancy> these crazy errors make me want to claw my eyes out... trac has always been so good to me in the past... =(
[21:46:20] <coderanger> is this 1) 0.11dev 2) Solaris or 3) Python 2.5
[21:47:40] <technomancy> python 2.5 and 2.4 with Trac 0.10
[21:47:55] <technomancy> the error is slightly different on 2.4 vs 2.5
[21:48:07] <coderanger> ClearSilver claims to not work on 2.5
[21:48:20] <coderanger> (on 64-bit only maybe?)
[21:48:27] <technomancy> with 2.5 it's "clearsilver not installed"; with 2.4 it's an uninformative 500 error
[21:48:34] <technomancy> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracForPython2.5
[21:48:47] <technomancy> CS 0.14 allegedly works with 2.5
[21:49:32] <technomancy> the crazy thing is that it worked perfectly until i installed those plugins
[21:50:24] <technomancy> the log directories are empty... =( (this is using fastcgi)
[21:51:18] <technomancy> whoa... hold on. it's working via tracd now.
[21:51:31] <technomancy> weeeeeeeird
[21:51:56] <coderanger> 0.10.4 you mean
[21:52:13] <technomancy> yeah. 0.14; python 2.5, trac 0.10
[21:52:21] <coderanger> 0.10.4 != 0.14
[21:52:28] <technomancy> tracd would segfault when i tried it earlier
[21:52:29] <technomancy> oh, sorry
[21:52:43] <coderanger> 0.14 is some magic version of ClearSilver to be released one day in the future ;-)
[21:53:09] <technomancy> i'm on 0.10.3 of trac
[21:53:38] <coderanger> Are you trying to use mod_pythyon?
[21:53:58] <coderanger> oh, you said FCGI
[21:54:53] <coderanger> Is this on a RedHat derivative?
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[22:50:58] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5205 (defect created): demo to ne ticket <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5205>
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[23:21:08] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5205 (defect closed): demo to ne ticket <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5205#comment:1>
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