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August 01, 2007

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[00:24:09] <notgod> hello, trac. :) I have been thinking -- I would really, really like a frames-based interface for ticket viewing. i.e. go to a milestone view, have the list on top and the tickets appear on the bottom. To avoid a lot of the repeat clicking. Is anyone else interested in, or working on this? Can it be done as a plugin?
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[01:32:47] <HawKeS> hi, i get the follow error when I try to see my "AVALIABLE PROYECTS" : ([Errno 2] No existe el fichero o el directorio: '/var/www/tracs/.trac-eggs/VERSION')
[01:32:55] <HawKeS> Any ideas??
[01:33:31] <HawKeS> I have DbAuth and webadmin plugins installed
[01:33:54] <HawKeS> And aparently working on
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[03:03:09] <gordonjcp> hello
[03:03:25] <gordonjcp> I'm having a spot of difficulty downloading from the trac-hacks website
[03:04:00] <gordonjcp> if I have a URL like http://trac-hacks.org/changeset/latest/wantedpagesplugin/0.9?old_path=/&filename=wantedpagesplugin/0.9&format=zip then when I wget it, I get what appears to be a web page rather than a zip file
[03:05:02] <gordonjcp> any thoughts?
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[03:07:11] <Wu> hi guys
[03:07:12] <thewizkid> hi
[03:07:30] <aat> gordonjcp: works for me
[03:07:34] <Wu> i've set trac just some minutes ago
[03:07:42] <Wu> and it gives me that error:
[03:07:50] <Wu> SubversionException: ("Can't open file '/svn/puzzlemotor/osc/format': Permission denied", 13)
[03:08:03] <thewizkid> i need an idea about why varnishncsa ist dying on high volume servers :(
[03:08:06] <Wu> seems like the web server user couldn't access that file
[03:08:15] <gordonjcp> aat: when you wget that link you get a valid zip file?
[03:08:16] <Wu> it is trac through mod_python3+apache2
[03:08:23] <Wu> the webserver user is www
[03:08:44] <Wu> the repo has permisions:
[03:08:46] <Wu> drwxrwx--- 7 pablo svn 512 Jul 31 18:26 osc
[03:08:57] <Wu> so i tried adding the www user to the svn group
[03:08:59] <Wu> but no luck
[03:09:06] <Wu> any tip about that?
[03:09:36] <Wu> shit
[03:09:40] <Wu> it works now
[03:09:49] <Wu> after adding www to the svn group, i had to restart apache
[03:09:51] <Wu> :)
[03:10:41] <aat> gordonjcp: yep
[03:11:23] <aat> gordonjcp: are you quoting the url at the shell?
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[03:33:16] <gordonjcp> aat: ah, aha that might be it
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[03:43:51] <firegrind> is it possible to encrypt the information in my trac-wiki ?
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[03:54:28] <firegrind> i've looked around in the docs and am considering creating a python egg for the job. is there an easier approach ? i don't want to reinvent the wheel.
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[04:37:33] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5800 (defect created): Apache Segmentation fault when trying to open a changeset <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5800>
[04:42:41] <grimace> I've got apache permission problems with the repo browser too
[04:42:47] <grimace> except, on windows :(
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[05:51:40] <Wu> hi again
[05:52:02] <Wu> is there any way to add all permissions at once using the trac-admin ?
[05:58:15] <Wu> found it
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[05:58:17] <Wu> Or add all privileges
[05:58:19] <Wu> :)
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[06:05:31] <grimace> hmm, can I make the repo broswer offer the root directory in zip format?
[06:05:55] <grimace> putting / or * in downloadable_paths doesn't seem to work
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[06:42:08] <ZarK> Hi, is there som link that always take me to the latest revision of a document in the source-browser? I want to link to certain documents, but links always changes when revision changes.
[06:42:44] <ZarK> Not wiki-links, this will be links from manuals etc.
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[06:43:55] <irc> hello
[06:44:01] <irc> hello everyone
[06:44:09] <irc> hello spsoniji
[06:44:47] <irc> unjoin
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[06:46:09] <spsoniji> hello everyone
[06:46:20] <spsoniji> i am newbie to irc
[06:46:27] <spsoniji> testing first before talking
[06:47:31] <exarkun> welcome to your doom
[06:47:48] <thewizkid> :)
[06:48:09] <spsoniji> hello everyone
[06:49:43] <spsoniji> hello everyone, i am trying to setup trac on ubuntu..can anyone help me..thnx
[06:50:48] <exarkun> spsoniji: Potentially everyone in the channel can help, but most likely most people won't even try unless you ask specific questions and provide details about the problems you're encountering.
[06:51:38] <spsoniji> thnx..let me compose specific question..
[06:52:40] <spsoniji> I used following command to install trac on my ubuntu system.. apt-get install trac
[06:52:50] <spsoniji> but now I don't know how to access it..
[06:52:53] <ZarK> is there a link to documents in the source browser that is independent of revisions?
[06:53:19] <spsoniji> no daemon is running related to trac after installation..
[06:54:24] <exarkun> spsoniji: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnUbuntu
[06:54:31] <spsoniji> thnx
[07:00:18] <ZarK> anyone: I can only find revision-specific links in the source code browser. If I remove the ?rev=xx , the link don't work. Is there a link that is independant of the revision (e.g. always take you to the latest revision), so I can safely use it in external documents?
[07:01:30] <ZarK> clarification: if I remove ?rev=xx, trac tries to find a version of that document from the latest revision. If this document was not part of the latest revision, the lookup fails.
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[07:04:59] <thatch> ZarK: I cannot think of anything off the top of my head that would do that.
[07:05:22] <thatch> ZarK: so I'd pose a question in response... why are you deleting files that are still being referenced :)
[07:05:37] <thatch> if they're renamed, the link ought to be changed to the new one, not continue appearing to work
[07:08:28] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5801 (defect created): systen <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5801>
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[07:11:43] <spike> heya exarkun
[07:12:00] <exarkun> Hi spike
[07:12:13] <spike> how's life?
[07:12:18] <exarkun> hm :/
[07:12:22] <exarkun> still going
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[07:12:34] <spike> heh
[07:13:55] <exarkun> how about you, anything interesting going on?
[07:14:56] <spike> poking some friends abroad to sort me out a job at their places and leave here, kinda having some sort of nature call, gotta make a move if you know what I mean
[07:15:33] <exarkun> yea, I get you. how radical a move? still gonna be doing tech stuff, or is it off to the potato farm?
[07:16:41] <spike> dunno, the potato farm has been indeed accounted for, I 'spose I just need a couple month offs or something, havent had any real vacation for the last 5 years or something
[07:16:53] <exarkun> ouch
[07:17:10] <exarkun> and I thought I had it bad :)
[07:17:50] <spike> but I've had some moments of "wtf am I doing this for", with this is the fourth job that didnt last more than a year :/
[07:18:05] * exarkun nods
[07:18:07] <spike> I just get bored of it, when I arrive everything is new and cool but in about 9 months I'm done
[07:21:15] <spike> and it seems impossible to find decent colleagues :/
[07:21:22] <spike> anyway, enough of a rant, sorry :)
[07:21:35] <exarkun> for a long time I was really focused on the job. I wish I had one that could stay interesting for 5 years, but it doesn't really. Lately I decided to pick up some old hobbies again. Though if you don't ever have any vacation time, that might be hard
[07:21:47] <exarkun> np, glad to listen :)
[07:22:18] <spike> yeah, I'm trying to get back into math, thought that might be more interesting
[07:22:26] <spike> yeah, hobbies are good
[07:22:34] <spike> brb
[07:38:42] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5804 (defect created): One of my projects has stopped working in trac <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5804> || Ticket #5803 (defect created): In Change History for ticket, no difference between a zero value and an empty value, always shows as "deleted" <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5803> || Ticket #5802 (defect created): Having & in Milestone title results in "No Matches" in View Ticket when grouped by Milestone <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5802> || Ticket #5801 (defect closed): systen <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5801#comment:1>
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[08:03:03] <ZarK> thatch: I'm not deleting files. However if you remove ?rev=xx from the url, trac automatically try to lookup myfile.ext?rev=yy, where yy is the latest revision in the system. A version of the file for that revision only exist if the file was explicitly part of the last commit.
[08:04:02] <thatch> ZarK: can you give me an example url?
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[08:07:32] <ZarK> aaah! I was just about to find you one, but I can't, cuz now it works...
[08:07:39] <ZarK> glad you could help :)
[08:07:59] <thatch> ok, great!
[08:08:37] <ZarK> hm.. so incidently, when I tried this out, I tried with a file that has been moved around. This messed it all up :)
[08:08:53] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #4703 (defect reopened): Joomlalib module download search <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4703#comment:2>
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[08:21:01] <Blackhex2> hello everyone
[08:21:06] <thatch> yo
[08:22:52] <lisppaste5> Blackhex pasted "PostgreSQL error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/45453
[08:23:08] <Blackhex2> does anyone know possible cause of this error?
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[08:26:07] <thatch> Blackhex2: well, all I can say is that it looks like something from the tracscreenshots plugin
[08:26:28] <Blackhex2> thatch: I know, I'm developing it .-)
[08:26:46] <thatch> Blackhex2: ok, so what's on tracscreenshots/api.py:128?
[08:27:04] <Blackhex2> cursor.execute(sql, (name, description, time, author, tags, large_file, medium_file, small_file))
[08:27:10] <thatch> the 'u' is perhaps something about passing in a unicode string
[08:27:21] <Blackhex2> all string are unicode, seems like pypgsql can't handle unicode
[08:28:02] <exarkun> It can, you just have to do it right.
[08:28:49] <Blackhex2> exarkun: so where could be a problem?
[08:29:17] <exarkun> Hmm, if I had to guess, based on just what I know at the moment...
[08:29:19] <exarkun> I would say...
[08:29:24] <exarkun> Somewhere in the software
[08:30:02] <Blackhex2> exarkun: 'text' field type should handle unicode right?
[08:31:29] <thatch> Blackhex2: I see some reference to how to make pypgsql _return_ unicode strings at http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/python-announce/1412111
[08:31:50] <thatch> so I'd probably trace back through the python code and see where it's making the connect. maybe your encoding is set wrong?
[08:32:18] <thatch> (just as a hack, if you turn them into regular strings do they work? if not, perhaps an isuse with your sql statement
[08:32:44] <Blackhex2> thatch: I'll check problem is that all that should hande Trac core
[08:34:00] <Blackhex2> I'd guess that database is set up wrongly
[08:34:26] <thatch> Blackhex2: I'm grasping at straws really, I don't run postgres with trac and you haven't given me the content of any local variables or config files
[08:34:58] <Blackhex2> great str() works
[08:35:14] <Blackhex2> it will be that database configuration
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[08:57:14] <Wu> hi guys
[08:57:23] <Wu> the third stupid question of the day
[08:58:00] <Wu> i've set up a trac site, with basic htpasswd auth
[08:58:20] <Wu> when i do click in logout
[08:59:03] <Wu> if then i click in login, and i get logged in as the user i've previously logged out, without asking for the password...
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[09:07:10] <coderanger> Wu: Its a "feature" of your browser
[09:07:21] <Wu> ?
[09:07:26] <coderanger> Wu: If you want true logout, look at the form-based logins in AccountManager
[09:07:41] <Wu> i'm using the basic apache dialog auth
[09:07:44] <coderanger> Wu: All modern browsers cache HTTP auth credentials as long as the browser is open
[09:07:55] <Wu> and it didn't ask me to ....
[09:07:59] <Wu> oh shit!
[09:08:06] <Wu> thnx coderanger
[09:08:25] <Wu> i've realized that some webapps i've build on top of zope lack of the same "problem/feature"
[09:08:27] <Wu> arggg
[09:08:31] <Wu> i forgot about it
[09:09:09] <Wu> i'll take a look at AccountManager
[09:09:14] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5372 (defect closed): Chicken-egg problem regarding global trac.ini and default values <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5372#comment:5> || TracOnOsx edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnOsx> || Ticket #5783 (defect created): mysql connection drop issue, w/ patch <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5783>
[09:12:44] <Wu> coderanger: http://matt-good.net/2005/07/20/trac-accountmanager-plugin/ <- this one?
[09:13:02] <coderanger> trac-hacks.org
[09:13:13] <coderanger> That links to it
[09:13:33] <coderanger> trac-hacks is the canonical listing of all community add-ons (plugins, macros, etc)
[09:14:18] <Wu> i see..
[09:14:20] <Wu> thnx
[09:14:27] <Wu> just learning about trac
[09:14:59] <Wu> i've a company that do software development, mostly python (webapps and GTK-based ones)
[09:15:27] <Wu> we've been using cvs since 2003, and now we are migrating to svn
[09:15:46] <Wu> seems like trac is THE option for managing some parts of the projects
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[09:21:21] <Blackhex2> coderanger: please have you seen this error before? http://paste.lisp.org/display/45453 it happend when I try ot insert unicode strings to PosgreSQL databes, when I convert them to srt(), it's ok
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[09:38:48] <coderanger> Blackhex2: Doens't ring a bell, but I don't work with postgres very much
[09:39:29] <retracile> Blackhex2: harrass pacopablo if you see him ;)
[09:39:30] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by achilles <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
[09:40:56] <Blackhex2> retracile, coderanger: ok thanks
[09:41:04] <Blackhex2> pacopablo: ping?
[09:41:28] <retracile> (unfortunately I haven't noticed pacopablo being active the past couple days. :( )
[09:41:52] <coderanger> @seen pacopablo
[09:41:52] <evil_twin> coderanger: pacopablo was last seen in #trac 1 day, 17 hours, 17 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <pacopablo> bbias.
[09:42:35] <retracile> "bbias"?? That seems to have been a slight underestimate.
[09:42:57] <asmodai> Lies!
[09:43:14] <retracile> asmodai: I don't supposee that 's' stands for 'season'?
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[09:48:05] <asmodai> right!
[09:52:36] <Blackhex2> ahh great upgradint from pypgsql-2.4 to pypgsql-2.5 helped
[09:53:15] <coderanger> Blackhex2: Why would you ever use pypgsql at all?
[09:54:37] <Blackhex2> coderanger: because its dependency of trac-0.10.4.ebuild
[09:54:52] <coderanger> Blackhex2: Use pyscopg2
[09:56:01] <Blackhex2> it's not in portage...
[09:57:05] <Blackhex2> ah psycopg is
[09:57:56] <coderanger> Don't use the 1.x version, Trac won't even recognize it
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[09:59:14] <Blackhex2> its 2.0 but ebuild is called that name
[10:00:24] <stp2007> Hi, is it possible to modify the types (defect, enhancement and task) avalable for a trac ticket?
[10:01:14] <retracile> stp2007: yes
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[10:02:05] <stp2007> retracile, excellent, would you have a link to point me in the right direction?
[10:02:35] <retracile> stp2007: webadmin, 'ticket types'
[10:02:39] <Blackhex2> coderanger: hmm, I switched to psycopg but similar error is here aggain :-)
[10:02:56] <retracile> stp2007: that's on 0.11dev; for 0.10.* you'll have to add the webadmin plugin.
[10:03:50] <retracile> stp2007: ... and trac-admin .... ticket_type
[10:04:27] <stp2007> retracile, will the last command work for 0.10?
[10:04:41] <stp2007> retracil, yes found it thx
[10:04:43] <retracile> stp2007: trac-admin help should list it if it does
[10:05:23] <stp2007> retracile, yes I see it now. Could have sworn I looked earlier and didn't see it. Thanks for the help.
[10:09:45] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by nkantrowitz <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
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[10:29:14] <kementeus> hello everybody
[10:29:24] <kementeus> I have a little question about tickets and queries
[10:29:40] <kementeus> I would like to create queries that only certain group could use
[10:30:04] <kementeus> for example, I would like that the poweruser_group could look at the other tickets
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[10:30:38] <kementeus> but the common_group only would only see their own tickets
[10:30:41] <kementeus> is that possible?
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[10:39:53] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5807 (defect created): tickets imported from bugzilla crash ticket system when closed if no milestone is set <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5807> || Ticket #5806 (defect created): Impossible to edit or delete a malformed custom query <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5806> || Ticket #5805 (defect created): trying to view an xls file causes python error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5805>
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[11:10:58] <lisppaste5> coderanger pasted "Best email evaaar" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/45466
[11:11:15] <coderanger_> I bust out laughing when I read that on the train this morning
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[11:16:18] <retracile> eh, wha? Someone sounds just a wee bit confused
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[11:22:01] <coderanger_> retracile: More than a little
[11:22:31] <retracile> coderanger_: yeah, something about mediawiki != trac, php != python, etc
[11:22:50] <retracile> mmmmm.... cake.
[11:23:01] <retracile> (I love this place. :) )
[11:25:10] <coderanger_> retracile: Jeez, fattening you up for slaughter?
[11:25:51] <retracile> coderanger_: Nah, they're all about serving man.
[11:25:55] <retracile> ;)
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[11:26:48] <kementeus> I guess is not possible to create ticket queries and limit their permission :(
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[11:27:22] <retracile> kementeus: I haven't tried to do anything like that, but I think the privateticket plugin might help you.
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[11:28:59] <coderanger_> kementeus: What specifically are you trying to do?
[11:29:10] <Neoteric> can someone explain the functional difference between manager's and developer's in the trac-admin bit?
[11:29:21] <coderanger_> Neoteric: hmm?
[11:29:23] <kementeus> I am using trac only as a BTS
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[11:29:27] <kementeus> and I have two groups
[11:29:52] <kementeus> the commonusers who only can post new tickets and the administrators who can check the common users tickets
[11:30:05] <Neoteric> using trac-admin I gave users both developer and manager roles but I'm not exactly clear what the differences really are.
[11:30:07] <kementeus> commonusers only can see and query tickets made by their own
[11:30:20] <kementeus> and administrator can see the commonusers tickets
[11:30:44] <kementeus> commonuser -> only can see tickets they had posted
[11:30:55] <kementeus> admingroup -> can see commonuser tickets
[11:31:10] <kementeus> do you thing privateticket could help me?
[11:31:12] <Neoteric> aah
[11:31:19] <coderanger_> kementeus: Yes
[11:31:35] <coderanger_> Neoteric: They are just groups, they do whatever you make them do
[11:32:11] <kementeus> thanks coderanger_ you have saved my day!
[11:32:16] <coderanger_> kementeus: commonuser gets TICKET_VIEW_REPORTER, admingroup gets TICKET_VIEW
[11:32:50] <coderanger_> kementeus: Should commonuser A be able to see all commonuser-submitted tickets or just his/her own?
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[11:33:09] <kementeus> just his own
[11:33:16] <coderanger_> then yeah, TICKET_VIEW_REPORTER
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[11:33:47] <coderanger_> the PrivateTickets wiki page explains the other various permissions you can give, it should be almost endlessly flexible for reasonable scenarios
[11:34:08] <kementeus> another not related question
[11:34:33] <kementeus> is the actual trac database code base enough abstract to create another database backend plugin?
[11:34:43] <kementeus> I guess I would like to see a MSSQL database backend
[11:34:45] <kementeus> :$
[11:34:46] <coderanger_> Yes
[11:35:03] <coderanger_> Assuming MSSQL is reasonably similar to the others we support
[11:35:29] <coderanger_> The biggest problem I've heard of from someone doing a DB backend is handling autoincrement fields
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[11:38:31] * Neoteric fiddles w/ roles and groups
[11:38:44] <kementeus> mmm... I would like to try one of those days
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[11:41:06] <kementeus> I would need to install Trac in Windows Server, should I try with the trac 0.11dev?
[11:41:26] <coderanger_> Probably
[11:41:38] <coderanger_> No point in starting new development in a big way for 0.10 anymore
[11:41:48] <retracile> kementeus: If you are doing new development (such as adding a new db backend) I'd think 0.11dev would be the right starting piont.
[11:41:59] <retracile> s/piont/point/
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[11:58:06] <kementeus> tracd is able to auth using the AccountManager Plugin
[11:58:18] <coderanger_> As of 0.10, yes
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[12:04:48] <kementeus> but I would try to install it in 0.11dev
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[12:06:32] <coderanger_> Works fine
[12:06:54] <coderanger_> dev.coderanger.net is tracd-powered (and uses acct_mgr's form logins)
[12:08:09] <datallah> coderanger_: still want me to bother you about "CC-me" functionality in SimpleTicket?
[12:09:00] <coderanger_> datallah: Yeah, its on my list. OLPC is still in process of consuming my soul
[12:09:32] <datallah> heh, fair enough
[12:11:25] <coderanger_> 3 weeks to go
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[12:12:19] <bnjmn> hi i'm getting an "HTML preview not available" for a php file. but i'm able to see other files just fine. using trac 0.10.4
[12:13:20] <bnjmn> wtf!
[12:13:30] <bnjmn> googled around but i couldn't find a fix
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[12:17:30] <bnjmn> any ideas why a php file would say "HTML preview not available"
[12:17:32] <coderanger_> bnjmn: Several issues, 1) did you configure the path to the php-cli binary in trac.ini (php_path)
[12:18:32] <coderanger_> 2) If you do not want to use php-cli for highlighting, disable that colorer trac.mimeview.php.* = disabled)
[12:19:16] <kementeus> anybody has been able to run tracd as a windows service?
[12:19:33] <coderanger_> kementeus: Use srvany.exe
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[12:23:53] <kementeus> thanks coderanger_
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[12:27:05] <cjyaro> WebAdmin's "admin" button isn't showing up, but the log says the plugin is being loaded. It shows me logged in as a user with TRAC_ADMIN permissions. What else should I check?
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[12:29:20] <coderanger_> cjyaro: Did you enable the plugin
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