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August 02, 2007

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[00:15:44] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracFeatures edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFeatures>
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[00:32:40] <Fr0zen_> trac-admin /home/django/svn/repo permission list
[00:32:40] <Fr0zen_> Failed to open environment. [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/django/svn/repo/VERSION'
[00:32:44] <Fr0zen_> what exactly can the problem be?
[00:34:17] <aat> svn repository != trac environment
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[00:35:29] <Fr0zen_> so the repo = the enviroment
[00:35:48] <Fr0zen_> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/django/svn/repo/VERSION'
[00:36:41] <coderanger> No, !=
[00:37:03] <coderanger> You need to use the path to your Trac environment, not your Subversion repo
[00:37:29] <Fr0zen_> != equals no?
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[00:38:23] <Fr0zen_> [root /root/.subversion]> trac-admin /home/django/trac/ permission list
[00:38:23] <Fr0zen_> Command failed:
[00:38:24] <Fr0zen_> wtf
[00:38:30] <Fr0zen_> VERSION is in /trac/VERSION
[00:39:56] <coderanger> != means "not equal"
[00:40:09] <coderanger> The path to the env is whatever you made it
[00:40:20] <Fr0zen_> ya why does the commad fail
[00:40:23] <Fr0zen_> doesnt throw any errors
[00:40:27] <Fr0zen_> just says command failed:
[00:45:57] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5784 (defect closed): Not able to connect to the SVN <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5784#comment:1>
[00:48:40] <Fr0zen_> anyone?
[00:50:35] <coderanger> Fr0zen_: What command?
[00:51:13] <Fr0zen_> i have an error with trac now
[00:51:14] <Fr0zen_> nvm
[00:51:19] <Fr0zen_> prob has something to do with my portupgrade
[00:51:24] <Fr0zen_> and pythons sqllite
[00:51:28] <Fr0zen_> libraries
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[01:16:04] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by alexandre.hamez@lip6.fr <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
[01:18:08] <Fr0zen_> [Thu Aug 02 03:27:28 2007] [error] [client 67.175.99.40] ImportError: No module named trac.web.modpython_frontend
[01:18:12] <Fr0zen_> anyone got any idea what that might be?
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[01:22:53] <coderanger> Fr0zen_: What version of Trac are you using
[01:23:24] <Fr0zen_> latest
[01:24:33] <coderanger> Generally /usr/lib/python2.?/site-packages/trac/web/modpython_frontend.py
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[02:46:40] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5808 (defect created): Bug found <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5808>
[02:57:36] <kopernikus> hi, how can I send text/plain responses with 0.11?
[02:57:54] <kopernikus> genshi gets in my way ;)
[03:00:40] <cmlenz> check out how the revision log module does its' text changelog
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[03:21:20] <kopernikus> ah, it was a problem in the code copied from webadmin.
[03:22:06] <kopernikus> template, data = provider.render_admin_panel(...) will raise a ValueError if the provider supplies the content-type as the third parameter
[03:22:20] <kopernikus> worth a ticket?
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[04:47:28] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5809 (defect created): Python traceback on env startpage <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5809>
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[06:17:59] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5810 (enhancement created): The Speed is slower than with 10.4 <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5810>
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[06:25:05] <OliverGeorge> hello, I'm after a little advice about how easy it is to modify the new ticket form in trac. i'm working on a project to extend the trac burndown plugin, we've added some new fields but we want them hidden in the ticket edit form.
[06:25:42] <OliverGeorge> for example: we've added new fields to handle ticket heirarchies (parent, children)
[06:26:08] <OliverGeorge> there are new fields: parent_id, parent_name, children_ids
[06:26:37] <OliverGeorge> but not all of them need to be visible in the ticket edit form, in fact only parent_id needs to be visible
[06:27:25] <OliverGeorge> the programmer i've hired says it's not possible but that seems crazy... are their any handy tricks to get around this sort of issue?
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[06:48:12] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5808 (defect closed): Bug found <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5808#comment:2> || Ticket #5810 (enhancement closed): The Speed is slower than with 10.4 <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5810#comment:1>
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[06:52:46] <exarkun> They're great
[06:52:50] <exarkun> We should have more of them
[07:02:31] <retracile> exarkun: Ok, you have a point. I want to have a lot more mornings...
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[07:18:27] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5811 (defect created): Hash char (#) wiki reference with an out of bound integer causes internal error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5811>
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[07:44:37] <ErikRose> ah
[07:44:37] <ogolovin> hi guys
[07:44:45] <ErikRose> Oops, wrong window
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[07:45:32] <ErikRose> Anybody know offhand if the download-as-zip-archive feature of the source browser can be configured to not pull down all the empty parent folders?
[07:45:54] <ErikRose> (Before I go spelunking through the source)
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[07:49:14] <SL_coder> hi guys
[07:49:21] <SL_coder> I have a vrjuggler question
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[07:49:49] <SL_coder> I need to get the size and origin of the vrjuggler sim window
[07:49:55] <SL_coder> to pass to my draw functions
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[07:50:32] <SL_coder> it's something along the lines of vport[4] glGetIntegerv(GL_VIEWPORT, intPointer);
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[08:04:51] <retracile> ErikRose: Have fun spelunking. ;)
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[08:09:29] <SL_coder> I'm a little confused is this channel for developers of vrjuggler or is it ok for those who develop stuff with vrjuggler
[08:09:31] <SL_coder> ?
[08:13:41] <SL_coder> so my question is I need to get the size of the vrjuggler sim window the origin and the width and height what I came up with is vport[4] glGetIntegerv(GL_VIEWPORT, intPointer); but it causes havock with juggler, the compiler gives me tons of errors.
[08:14:45] <retracile> SL_coder: This is the channel for Trac development.
[08:14:57] <retracile> I
[08:15:04] <SL_coder> I see
[08:15:05] <SL_coder> thanks
[08:15:09] <retracile> 'm guessing that vrjugller uses Trac for bugtracking.
[08:15:32] <SL_coder> you don't know of a channel that helps with app development with juggler?
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[08:17:57] <SL_coder> alright thx
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[08:18:47] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5812 (defect created): Spamfilter monitor exception. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5812>
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[09:21:44] <lakin> what's the difference between a changeset number and a revision number? they're always the same right?
[09:23:56] <retracile> lakin: depends on how you look at it. I tend to think of a changeset number as a reference to a specific delta, and a revision number as a reference to a specific version of the tree.
[09:24:08] <retracile> lakin: Not sure that everyone shares my definitions. ;)
[09:24:29] <retracile> lakin: but for subversion, yes, the numbers always match.
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[10:43:22] <mcr> hi.
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[10:44:00] <mcr> coderanger suggested that keeping one set of tickets for multiple projects could be done by putting each project into the same database into a seperate schema. I've done this, and it worked.
[10:44:06] <mcr> Now I'm trying to move the tickets to the public schema.
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[10:49:08] <mcr> I am wondering if perhaps, the pypgsql interface doesn't use the default search_path.
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[11:31:05] <rezzen> can wiki markup in trac tickets be disabled?
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[11:46:18] <retracile> not that I know of...
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[11:48:04] <foutrelis> hello :)
[11:48:50] <retracile> howdy
[11:49:21] <foutrelis> i'm running 0.11dev-r5883 but I want to go back to stable (0.10.4). What should I do? :(
[11:49:25] <foutrelis> hey retracile :P
[11:49:42] <retracile> heh... that depends....
[11:49:59] <foutrelis> :)
[11:50:39] <foutrelis> the problem with my current setup is that sometime when I click to see a file, I don't get anything :)
[11:51:02] <foutrelis> I seeing revision 45 of a file but it doesn't display anything :S
[11:51:10] <foutrelis> *I'm
[11:51:26] <foutrelis> *sometimes
[11:51:26] <retracile> hmm... so if that got fixed, you wouldn't need to go back to 0.10*?
[11:51:27] <foutrelis> :)
[11:51:33] <foutrelis> retracile: no :P
[11:51:38] <foutrelis> ^^
[11:52:56] <retracile> Moving back to 0.10.* requires some sql on the database, and trac.ini modifications, and maybe something else... and it varies based on whether this was upgraded or initially created with 0.11dev.
[11:53:04] <retracile> ... so it isn't straightforward.
[11:53:21] <foutrelis> retracile: ouch :P
[11:53:31] <retracile> foutrelis: I'd rather help you track down the bug. ;)
[11:53:40] <foutrelis> that would be great :)
[11:53:57] <retracile> Ok. So... details. Lots of details please. :)
[11:54:09] <retracile> (And use pastebin as needed)
[11:54:31] <foutrelis> retracile: How about access to see it yourself? :P
[11:54:39] <retracile> that could work
[11:54:46] <foutrelis> I'm no good at describing stuff
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[11:55:58] <retracile> do your best ;)
[11:56:23] <foutrelis> may I pm you? :)
[11:56:29] <retracile> sure
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[12:05:18] <retracile> @faq php
[12:05:19] <evil_twin> retracile: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[12:05:23] <retracile> phph?
[12:05:26] <retracile> php?
[12:05:27] <evil_twin> Somebody said php is like a swiss army knife that is also very helpful for stabbing back at yourself, retracile
[12:05:45] <retracile> eh, so that wasn't as helpful as I'd hoped.
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[12:08:05] <retracile> @faq logging
[12:08:06] <evil_twin> retracile: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
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[12:08:28] <retracile> foutrelis: ^
[12:09:35] <Fr0zen_> [Thu Aug 02 14:18:07 2007] [error] [client 67.175.99.40] ImportError: No module named trac.web.modpython_frontend
[12:09:38] <Fr0zen_> im getting that error
[12:09:51] <Fr0zen_> modpython_frontend.so is in /site-packages/trac
[12:10:40] * foutrelis purrs at retracile
[12:11:55] <retracile> foutrelis: So, when you view those two .php files, what do you get in the logs? (pastebin as needed)
[12:13:03] <foutrelis> retracile: http://dev.grulez.com/trac.log :)
[12:13:17] <foutrelis> hmmm there are two error I see :P
[12:13:22] <foutrelis> *errors
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[12:15:18] <retracile> I doubt those are the problem, personally...
[12:15:35] <foutrelis> <-- python newbie :)
[12:15:54] <foutrelis> trac issue then? :)
[12:16:13] <foutrelis> let me try with syntax highlighting off
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[12:17:52] <retracile> foutrelis: Double check your setup against: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFaq#why-do-my-php-pages-show-up-blank-in-the-browser
[12:18:57] <foutrelis> retracile: thanks
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[12:21:23] <retracile> foutrelis: Let me know if that works...
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[12:22:41] <foutrelis> testing it now :)
[12:23:25] <foutrelis> no luck :(
[12:23:41] <retracile> restarted the server just be sure?
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[12:24:18] <foutrelis> yeah
[12:24:27] <sadmac> I have a script that runs locally that I want to update a wiki page on trac on the server. How can I do this?
[12:24:51] <retracile> sadmac: trac-admin has support for importing wiki pages.
[12:26:27] <sadmac> retracile: sorry if I worded it strangely, but the script is being run from a different box than trac is being served from
[12:26:53] <fred_> then you have a few options
[12:27:04] <retracile> sadmac: ah, misunderstood. Ok, then you'll want to look into xmlrpc plugin, and mechanize as a couple
[12:27:36] <sadmac> cool
[12:27:38] <foutrelis> retracile: I must go away for now. Thank you very much for the help ^^ :)
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[12:28:10] <retracile> you're welcome. Hope you get it fixed.
[12:28:55] <foutrelis> Maybe I should have started with stable :P
[12:29:05] <fred_> sadmac: you can always do it by scripting the web interface
[12:30:08] <sadmac> fred_: looking at that too
[12:31:15] <fred_> If you were only doing importing, ssh+keys+tracadmin would be your best bet
[12:31:42] <fred_> If you're using postgres, you could always monkey with it that way :)
[12:33:22] <sadmac> postgres doesn't look like an option
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[12:33:51] <sadmac> dunno if we're using it, but I'm not allowed to access it if we are
[12:34:25] <sadmac> I may write a trac plugin to add some http requests that will make it cleaner.
[12:34:59] <fred_> another option is to monkey with the sqlite database while Trac is stopped
[12:35:22] <sadmac> again, pretty sure that's outside my permissions
[12:35:26] <retracile> sadmac: look at the xmlrpc plugin before you write your own... it may do what you need.
[12:35:35] <sadmac> retracile: rgr
[12:35:41] <retracile> ?
[12:35:45] <sadmac> roger
[12:35:49] <retracile> ah.
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[12:44:22] <fred_> How fast is the TicketQuery qiki macro normally?
[12:45:36] <fred_> on my server (OSX Server 10.4, Trac 0.10.4, sqlite3, mod_python) it's abysmally slow
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[12:47:40] <fred_> Every other page loads instantaneously, but if each TicketQuery macro adds a few seconds to the load time
[12:48:11] <retracile> fred_: how large of a dataset are you dealing with?
[12:48:32] <fred_> very small, only 30 tickets
[12:48:38] <retracile> Hrm.
[12:48:44] <fred_> we just started using it a few weeks ago
[12:48:57] <foutrelis> :)
[12:48:59] <retracile> I haven't really used that macro.
[12:49:11] <fred_> I'm wondering if postgres would speed it up or slow it down
[12:49:53] <retracile> pacopablo, coderanger or aat would probably be able to give you better input on that question than I can.
[12:50:26] <fred_> could you maybe try it out on your project (it ships by default) to see how fast it is there?
[12:50:59] <fred_> it might just be a problem with my server
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[12:53:54] <retracile> on a test instance (0.11dev) there's no delay that I noticed... let me put multiple queries in...
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[12:54:33] <retracile> even with 10 of them, I'm not noticing any delay.
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[12:55:11] <rjbs> Is there a simple way to tell Trac to NEVER display a relative date on which the ticket was opened?
[12:55:22] <rjbs> I hate seeing "Opened 1 week ago" and having to think about date math.
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[12:56:17] <retracile> rjbs: the date info is in a tooltip, in case you weren't aware of that.
[12:56:31] <rjbs> that's fantastic.
[12:56:42] <rjbs> ...but even knowing that... is there a simple way? :)
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[12:57:26] <retracile> not that I know of. Search t.e.o for a ticket on that; it's something that we'll probably want to add to the date/time prefs at some point.
[12:57:32] <rjbs> k
[12:58:05] <coderanger_> That should be a plugin
[12:58:18] <coderanger_> And its a pretty easy plugin in 0.11
[12:58:48] <retracile> coderanger_: One of those 30-second plugins? ;)
[12:59:04] <coderanger_> I would venture about 20 minutes
[13:00:11] <fred_> thanks, retracile
[13:00:18] <rjbs> well, that will make ticket #5813 easy to resolve!
[13:00:52] <retracile> Hm... interesting. I haven't looked into adding something to the user prefs via plugin. One of your post request filter things required?
[13:01:02] <fred_> retracile: are you using postgres?
[13:01:09] <retracile> fred_: sqlite
[13:01:26] <fred_> hrm...
[13:01:56] <fred_> well, we'll be upgrading to 0.11 as soon as it's 'released' anyway
[13:02:28] <retracile> fred_: Testing of 0.11dev is helpful for that. (See also sandbox/testing)
[13:02:57] <retracile> s/for that/for making that happen/
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[13:04:28] <fred_> yeah, I'm planning on doing that as soon as I get my current install moved to postgres and served off of a 'production' server (it's currently on my testing one)
[13:04:39] <coderanger_> retracile: Nope, its nicely modular
[13:04:53] <coderanger_> retracile: It would require a stream filter for other magic though
[13:04:55] <retracile> coderanger_: cool. I'll have to look into that part of the code sometime.
[13:05:33] <fred_> coderanger_: thanks for writing the TracCAS plugin
[13:05:40] <retracile> fred_: The sandbox/testing branch has functional tests added... and I'm trying to convince others to add more. ;)
[13:05:47] <coderanger_> fred_: People actually use that thing? :P
[13:05:56] <fred_> I'm so glad I didn't have to write it myself
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[13:06:36] <fred_> I initially got my Trac bound to AD via mod_authnz_ldap
[13:07:01] <fred_> but the other admins at my school were all "fuck no, we're a CAS shop damnit"
[13:07:39] <fred_> then I tried to compile mod_cas, and shreiked in terror for a few days in vain
[13:07:55] <fred_> never even got it to compile!
[13:09:02] <fred_> I work at The Evergreen State College -- from what I can tell you work at RPI?
[13:10:05] <fred_> a freind of mine here told me he went to high school with you (Jonathan Friedman)
[13:12:31] <coderanger_> fred_: I'm a student at RPI
[13:12:37] <coderanger_> ahh, yeah
[13:13:23] <coderanger_> We did robotics stuff in HS
[13:13:53] <fred_> yeah, I'm a student employee here too
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[13:20:47] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5813 (enhancement created): make it easy to replace relative created date with absolute one <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5813>
[13:21:42] <fred_> coderanger_: I ended up rewriting your unixgroupsplugin -- it failed miserably on a machine that's attached to a large directory
[13:22:26] <coderanger_> So I saw. I have to look at the source of the python modules and try to figure out why. Shelling out is a pretty big hammer for a high-traffic site
[13:22:37] <coderanger_> chances are if its a bug, it should get fixed upstream
[13:22:43] <fred_> the data structure that the grp module returned when queried about "other groups" was 512kb!
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[13:22:56] <fred_> and took 8 seconds to arrive
[13:23:33] <coderanger_> What kind of directory and are you nscd?
[13:23:40] <coderanger_> er, runniung nscd
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[13:24:06] <fred_> a really hilariously set up Active Directory
[13:24:15] <fred_> the DCs are Windows 2003
[13:24:28] <fred_> the client is OS X 10.4 Server
[13:25:28] <fred_> our domain has so much bizarre old cruft in it, i'm not surprised your code failed to parse it's dump
[13:26:28] <coderanger_> Ahh, OS X is a bit funky with that stuff anyway
[13:26:40] * coderanger_ dislikes netinfo
[13:26:53] <fred_> netinfo sucks, but it's going away
[13:27:07] <fred_> it's pure LDAP in 10.5
[13:28:01] <fred_> and their LDAP/NIS/AD implementations in 10.4 don't touch netinfo anyhow
[13:28:36] <fred_> they run alongside each other under the umbrella of "Directory Services"
[13:29:24] <coderanger_> Its sufficiently different from normal NSS to irritate me
[13:29:47] <Fr0zen_> someone vandalized my trac installation
[13:29:53] <Fr0zen_> well my friends
[13:29:58] <Fr0zen_>