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August 06, 2007

[00:00:49] <aat> yoyo asmodai
[00:00:55] <aat> morning cmlenz
[00:02:58] <cmlenz> morning
[00:04:43] <moolight> moin cmlenz, i heard so much about u
[00:05:06] <moolight> i read your blog, the articles are great
[00:07:09] <cmlenz> thanks :)
[00:10:23] <cmlenz> bbiab
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[00:18:56] <mitsuhiko> shit. 8 minutes...
[00:25:27] <moolight> hrm.... there's many place that trac should validate it before storing it to database
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[00:55:54] <asmodai> aat: Heya dude :D
[00:55:59] <asmodai> aat: WAZZUP!?
[00:56:30] <aat> not much man
[00:56:49] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5826 (defect created): ticket submit validation <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5826>
[00:58:10] <asmodai> aat: Heh, enjoyed the weekend?
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[00:59:49] <aat> yeah
[00:59:59] <aat> ooh!
[01:00:09] <aat> i've almost finished migrating trac-hacks to the new server
[01:00:14] <aat> how about you? good weekend?
[01:00:43] <asmodai> ya man, been having fun with my WoW guild *grin*
[01:01:04] <asmodai> Been reading up on my compiler theory, bought the new dragon book last weekend before this one
[01:02:19] <aat> aah, a wow addict
[01:02:22] <aat> cool
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[01:07:38] <asmodai> aat: hahah, nah
[01:08:19] <asmodai> aat: I like playing this as a distraction
[01:08:25] <asmodai> aat: Works makin' me think a lot :D
[01:08:38] <asmodai> aat: 'sides, I love disassembling the engine }:)
[01:09:42] <aat> :)
[01:09:57] <aat> i played it for a bit, but never got right into it
[01:10:40] <asmodai> aat: You waiting for SC2? :)
[01:11:52] <aat> pfft!
[01:11:53] <aat> sif!
[01:12:36] <asmodai> sif?
[01:13:21] <aat> "as if" ;)
[01:13:26] <aat> you'll never take me alive!
[01:13:33] <asmodai> hahaha
[01:13:44] * asmodai shoots a stun ray at aat
[01:17:37] <coderanger> Examples of what is wrong with web developers today: "i actually have to go now, but i don't completely agree. I would say disabling javascript is probably a wrong attitude"
[01:17:45] <coderanger> And that was in #jquery
[01:18:04] <aat> kids these days
[01:21:09] <asmodai> The thing is
[01:21:16] <asmodai> disabling is not something YOU control
[01:21:21] <asmodai> but the user, end of dicussion
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[01:22:44] <coderanger> asmodai: Indeed, and in many cases its not something they control either
[01:22:59] <coderanger> disability, office security policy, etc etc
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[01:27:05] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5826 (defect reopened): ticket submit validation is broken for cnum <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5826#comment:2> || TracUsers edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers> || TracUsers edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers> || Ticket #5814 (defect closed): Another authorization requested for already logged in user by certain operations <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5814#comment:5> || Ticket #5826 (defect closed): ticket submit validation is broken for cnum <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5826#comment:1> || Ticket #5826 (defect created): ticket submit validation is broken for cnum <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5826>
[01:33:57] <coderanger> mOolight: How sure are you of that
[01:34:11] <moolight> i can reproduce it :)
[01:34:21] <coderanger> mOolight: http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/tags/trac-0.10.4/trac/ticket/web_ui.py#L67
[01:34:23] <coderanger> I cannot
[01:34:38] <moolight> but can u see the error in http://www.hosted-projects.com/trac/TracDemo/Demo/ticket/295 ?
[01:34:52] <coderanger> What error?
[01:35:21] <asmodai> coderanger: yeah, agreed.
[01:35:24] <moolight> oh, no...
[01:35:40] <moolight> it error when i'm submiting, not after
[01:35:54] <coderanger> mOolight: Indeed, as it fails the input validation
[01:36:04] <coderanger> Just like it should ;-)
[01:36:41] <coderanger> Also just for future reference, the Tamper Data Fx addon makes it way easier to test things like that instead of the downloading stuffs
[01:37:06] <moolight> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/tags/trac-0.10.4/trac/ticket/web_ui.py#L705
[01:37:38] <moolight> coderanger: maybe it failed in previous version, and someone post data when i have that version installed. and now it's upgraded
[01:37:59] <coderanger> moolight: Very possible, we do try to fix bugs :)
[01:38:56] <moolight> ok, close as invalid
[01:39:18] <coderanger> technically thats a worksforme, but oh well
[01:39:23] <moolight> it's lucky that i'm a programmer that know python. but how could other trac admins "migrate" the bugs fixes
[01:40:07] <moolight> i added a try/except wrap arround #L705, and manage to delete the comment
[01:41:52] <coderanger> moolight: Why would you "migrate" a fix?
[01:42:00] <coderanger> You upgrade to the latest stable version
[01:42:17] <moolight> i mean... upgraded to latest stable version, but we have to migrate the buggy data in database
[01:42:58] <coderanger> moolight: You don't need to know python, just SQL
[01:43:19] <moolight> yes i do, to figure out the problem :)
[01:43:22] <coderanger> If someone asked on here or the ML, I'm sure the SQL for it would appear fairly quickly
[01:43:33] <moolight> hrm.. that's a good way
[01:43:50] <coderanger> moolight: Thats what a traceback and asking people who know the codebase is for
[01:44:20] <coderanger> Not that I'm objecting to you diagnosing your problems, but the reason we maintain support systems (ML+IRC) is for those that can't
[01:44:33] <moolight> okay, good to know there's a way for high level users.
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[01:45:28] <coderanger> One of these days I'm going to total up the amount of time I've spent answering questions in here and be very very sad
[01:46:15] <moolight> heh... with some irc log analyzer
[01:48:25] <cmlenz> you should set up a micropayment donation jar :)
[01:49:23] <coderanger> cmlenz: Do I get an organ grinder's monkey costume too?
[01:49:27] <cmlenz> so if you had a penny of two for every question answered, that might help combat the sadness
[01:49:38] <moolight> FYI, i appreciate your activation in irc and trac-hacks
[01:49:46] <cmlenz> heh
[01:49:46] <moolight> how is micropayment compared to paypal?
[01:50:09] <cmlenz> it's a general concept, not anything in particular, AFAIK
[01:50:33] <cmlenz> though amazon's new service enables micropayments IIUC
[01:50:48] <cmlenz> whereas with paypal you can't really go all that "micro"
[01:51:21] <coderanger> cmlenz: Does it go <0.01 $CURRENCY?
[01:51:42] <coderanger> cmlenz: Most I've seen are still operating in whole numbers of the smallest denomination in an country
[01:51:54] <moolight> coderanger: would that be millipayments? :D
[01:52:39] <coderanger> moolight: The original idea was to make systems for handling payments below the threshold of modern commerce
[01:53:33] * moolight checking amazon
[01:54:26] <coderanger> Yeah, Amazon's minimum looks like $1
[01:54:50] <cmlenz> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070803-amazons-flexible-payments-service-to-compete-with-google-checkout-paypal.html
[01:55:06] <cmlenz> http://www.freshbooks.com/blog/2007/08/03/amazon-flexible-payment-service/
[01:55:23] <cmlenz> "Amazon can bill as low as only 1 cent a month"
[01:56:02] <cmlenz> not lower than 0.01
[01:56:28] <coderanger> Ahh, thats different than the HS system, interesting
[01:57:18] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by nkantrowitz <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers> || Ticket #5826 (defect closed): ticket submit validation is broken for cnum <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5826#comment:3>
[01:57:24] <m_g> before a ticket goes into the assigned state, the person first has to accept it, right?
[01:58:30] <coderanger> m_g: In the old workflow, yes
[01:58:37] <coderanger> m_g: In the new one, now
[01:58:38] <coderanger> er, no
[01:58:55] <coderanger> @wiki TracWorkflow
[01:58:55] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracWorkflow
[01:59:59] <m_g> coderanger: thanks
[02:01:39] <coderanger> cmlenz: Might be interesting to put some marketplace-ish stuff in trac-hacks v2.0 ;-)
[02:01:54] <coderanger> Or in a ticket-bounty plugin
[02:02:13] <cmlenz> yeah
[02:02:17] <cmlenz> rent-a-trac-coder ;-)
[02:02:57] * coderanger plots evil
[02:07:52] <coderanger> Hey look, its 5AM. /me sleeps
[02:14:16] <moolight> ticket as answers.com ? good idea
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[02:37:06] <Sonderblade> i have big problem with spam on my trac
[02:37:36] <Sonderblade> i dont allow anonymous login but somehow the assholes manage to create accounts and post spam anyway
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[02:37:58] <baggito> hi has anyone seen this one before? http://wvr.me.uk/cgi-bin/trac.cgi
[02:38:00] <Sonderblade> what should i do? i don't want to make my site invite only
[02:38:21] <cmlenz> spamfilter
[02:39:06] <cmlenz> http://www.cmlenz.net/blog/2006/11/managing_trac_s.html
[02:40:41] <Sonderblade> cmlenz: thanks, great to know that my "internet service" is sucessful :)
[02:41:49] <baggito> Trac detected an internal error: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'log'
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[02:49:43] <moolight> poor cmlenz... your blog is blocked in my country
[02:49:59] <moolight> (or dns/router issue?)
[02:50:56] <cmlenz> huh?
[02:51:04] <cmlenz> what country is that?
[02:51:09] <moolight> i can't open it without using tor
[02:51:12] <moolight> China
[02:51:25] <asmodai> The obvious answer.
[02:51:25] <cmlenz> the dns doesn't resolve?
[02:51:32] <asmodai> The Great Firewall.
[02:51:44] <asmodai> cmlenz: YOU'RE A BAD INFLUENCE FOR THE CHINESE PEOPLE! :P
[02:51:46] <moolight> resolved to 204.9.177.195
[02:51:49] * asmodai grins
[02:52:10] <cmlenz> that's the correct IP
[02:52:14] <cmlenz> and then?
[02:52:14] <evil_twin> and then is there any code I could reuse that makes the query easier, cmlenz
[02:52:21] * asmodai chuckles
[02:52:32] <asmodai> evil_twin++
[02:52:34] <cmlenz> evil_twin is drunk
[02:52:34] * moolight trying tracert
[02:52:35] <evil_twin> I have no idea!
[02:53:13] <cmlenz> moolight: try cmlenz.typepad.com, too
[02:54:32] <moolight> http://rafb.net/p/R7JVcv91.html where 202.97.43.197 china network backbone
[02:54:41] <moolight> cannot open cmlenz.typepad.com too
[02:54:49] <asmodai> See?
[02:54:53] <asmodai> BAD cmlenz.
[02:55:03] <moolight> asmodai: hoh
[02:55:09] <cmlenz> maybe just dns path down atm
[02:55:16] <cmlenz> you were able to access it earlier, no?
[02:55:20] <asmodai> bu ke qi :P
[02:55:20] <moolight> no
[02:55:54] <cmlenz> didn't you say "i read your blog, the articles are great" earlier today? :o
[02:56:01] * asmodai could ask Sephe, qing dengyideng
[02:56:01] <moolight> heh
[02:56:32] <asmodai> Provided sephe is online, of course...
[02:56:42] * asmodai asks Lily
[02:56:43] <moolight> cmlenz: i was tor'ed
[02:56:59] <moolight> it was the first time i know your site is blocked
[02:57:30] <moolight> whois sephe? GFW manager?
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[02:59:05] <asmodai> moolight: Chinese friend of mine, like Lily, from Shanghai
[03:00:05] <moolight> k, i can ask more ppl test it too
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[04:28:18] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracAdmin edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracAdmin>
[04:49:02] <mOolight> coderanger: it is said in the wiki page of spamfilter that, spamfilter was born because he don't like captcha. but i think captcha is still useful even spamfilter is on. like when a ppl is blocked by spamfilter, give him a chance to challenge the captcha, if it is reall human, let him go
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[05:02:29] <timing> hello. the .vb source files are not colored in the trac we have
[05:02:55] <timing> we have Trac 0.10.4
[05:06:51] <mOolight> can anyone teach me what is the karma in spamfilter?
[05:07:17] <mOolight> "The sum of these karma points needs to be greater than or equal to the minimum karma configured here for the submission to be accepted."
[05:07:24] <mOolight> accepted as spam or accepted as ham?
[05:08:07] <cmlenz> as ham
[05:08:16] <cmlenz> "accepted as spam" -> rejected
[05:08:50] <thatch> timing: .vb files are for vb.net? do you have pygments?
[05:08:54] <cmlenz> the more karma a submission it gets, the better
[05:09:02] <timing> thatch: yeah it's vb.net
[05:09:05] <cmlenz> ... the more likely it is ham, from the pov of the spamfilter
[05:09:11] <mOolight> okay, if i have IPBlacklistFilterStrategy: 1, and ExternalLinksFilterStrategy: 1
[05:09:26] <timing> thatch: no we have silvercity and enscript
[05:09:36] <cmlenz> moolight: I think you want negative values there
[05:09:48] <timing> thatch: only strings are hilighted in a yellowish color
[05:10:58] <thatch> timing: yeah, those don't have lexers for vb.net. I know Pygments does though, you can 'easy_install Pygments' to get it.
[05:11:00] <mOolight> karma = 0 in the begining, right? if it's ip-blacklist'ed, karma = karma + 1 or - 1?
[05:11:25] <timing> thatch: ow, i'm getting it from ports now. what's this easy_install thing?
[05:12:06] <mOolight> both of tham think the submit is bad, i'll get -2
[05:12:15] <cmlenz> moolight: you want to decrease the karma of things that look like spam, so use a negative value
[05:12:33] <thatch> timing: setuptools is a language-specific package manager... but if ports has it, that's easier
[05:12:47] <timing> k
[05:12:47] <mOolight> cmlenz: i'm sure confused :(
[05:13:16] <mOolight> Minimum karma required for a successful submission: 2 <- i set it to 2, and i should "think" it as -2?
[05:13:39] <cmlenz> no
[05:13:44] <mOolight> 0 + (-1) + (-1) = -2 which is >= -2, mark as harm
[05:13:49] <mOolight> ham
[05:13:57] * asmodai is NaN
[05:14:04] <cmlenz> I meant you want to set the points of the spam-detecting filters to negative values
[05:14:11] <cmlenz> the minimum karma can stay at 0
[05:14:16] <cmlenz> or set it to what you want
[05:14:34] <mOolight> okay
[05:15:15] <mOolight> what confused me is that, the positive karma works
[05:15:35] <cmlenz> hmmm
[05:15:37] <mOolight> but negative karma is shown in monitor/logs
[05:15:43] <cmlenz> that may be due to compatibility code
[05:15:55] <mOolight> and positive value is by default
[05:15:58] <cmlenz> and to protected you form shooting yourself in the foot :-)
[05:16:03] <cmlenz> protect, even
[05:16:07] <cmlenz> yeah
[05:16:11] <cmlenz> I think I misrememberd
[05:18:37] <thatch> timing: after you get Pygments, restart the server and see if it happens to work. If not, we'll need to adjust the pygments_modes config option.
[05:18:42] <aat> hello
[05:18:56] * mOolight starts reading spamfilter source
[05:18:58] <thatch> timing: oops, forgot you're on 0.10.x, you'll need the TracPygments plugin too
[05:19:28] * mOolight is so stupid that have to read source to use a software :)
[05:20:59] <timing> thatch: aah okay
[05:25:32] <mOolight> return -abs(self.karma_points) * num_ext / self.max_links, \
[05:25:35] <mOolight> gotcha..
[05:26:31] <mOolight> imho, it would be nice to show "* num_ext / self.max_links" in spamfilter configuration
[05:38:32] <mOolight> wait, min-karma=2 is not what i want, it have to be negative
[05:38:52] <mOolight> this is inconsistent imho. how could we get karma>0
[05:40:16] <cmlenz> using a positive filter
[05:40:21] <cmlenz> such as the SessionFilterStrategy
[05:42:28] <mOolight> u get the point, looks like it's not easy to show the formula in config page
[05:47:01] <cmlenz> well, maybe the config page should show the karma points always being negative
[05:47:08] <cmlenz> otherwise I'm not sure what you'd want to see?
[05:47:27] <cmlenz> (always being negative where they are treated as such, i.e. -abs(num))
[05:47:45] <mOolight> yep, but this is half of my idea
[05:47:59] <mOolight> i would like to see the formula if it's simple in the description
[05:48:08] <mOolight> like "$karma * num_ext / self.max_links"
[05:48:39] <mOolight> or "$karma * $n(num_ext) / $n(self.max_links)"
[05:49:16] <mOolight> formula is much more readable like graphics than a long descrption :)
[05:49:43] <cmlenz> hmm, that may be nice, yeah
[05:50:04] <mOolight> if you say "-abs($karma) * num_ext / self.max_links" u don't even have to fix the negative issue
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[05:51:22] <mOolight> oops, it should be "-abs(%d) * $num_ext / %d(max_links)" % (karma, self.max_links), $num_ext is shown as is so user know it's a variable detected at runtime
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[06:07:03] <shap> We are having an upgrade problem from 0.10.2 to 0.10.4. Looks like the DatabaseManager cannot open the sqlite database.
[06:07:34] <shap> This is while moving from Fedora6 to Fedora7. Doesn't look (at first glance) like the same upgrade issue that everyone else is reporting.
[06:09:09] <shap> Looks like trac/db/sqlite_backend.py is dying in get_connection with a "NULL Result without error in PyObject_Call"
[06:09:21] <shap> Any clues?
[06:29:07] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5827 (defect created): Upgrade 0.10.2 -> 0.10.4 fails in fedora 7 <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5827>
[06:33:01] <shap> Yeah. That was my ticket. I'm asking here in case somebody knows something, because I have a company at a dead halt until this is resolved.
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[06:36:14] <exarkun> shap: Superficially, it looks like a bug in the Python bindings to SQLite.
[06:36:29] <exarkun> shap: I'd get gdb involved.
[06:37:22] <shap> Python->sqlite problem sounds plausible on the face, but I think maybe not, because I was able to dump all of the wiki pages using trac-admin, and that has to be able to bind successfully in order to dump. Hmm. I should add that to the ticket.
[06:46:29] <aat> tickets are meant for bugs in trac, you should send this issue to the ml
[06:46:44] <aat> does 0.10.2 run?
[06:47:40] <thatch> Hmm, could this behavior be if db is sqlite2 but FC7 has sqlite3?
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[06:48:28] <aat> you usually get something like "file is not a database" in that situation
[06:49:44] <shap> aat: No way to check 0.10.2 easily. No RPM available for FC7. Since trac-admin works, and goes through the python->sqlite interface, this looks to my like it *is* a bug in trac.
[06:50:12] <shap> thatch: don't know, but can confirm that FC7 is running sqlite3. Weird thing is that some connects do work.
[06:50:26] <thatch> shap: aha!
[06:50:28] <thatch> http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2969#comment:17
[06:51:18] <shap> thatch: yeah, I saw that, but we're not getting an out-of-sequence library call error here.
[06:52:05] <thatch> shap: what version of sqlite/pysqlite are you using?
[06:53:39] <aat> it looks like a C api usage error in sqlite
[06:54:01] <shap> thatch: sqlite: 3.3.13-1, Not clear what version of pysqlite, if any.
[06:54:15] <thatch> no...pysqlite...<twitch>
[06:54:23] <aat> hehe
[06:54:47] <shap> thatch: yeah, I think that's weird too. Be nice if this was just a package dependency issue. Checking.
[06:55:05] <thatch> if you have the option, get pysqlite2
[06:55:46] <shap> thatch: looks like python-sqlite2 2.3.3 is packaged, but not installed. Wait one while I install.
[06:56:03] <thatch> shap: also, did you say that trac-admin behaves fine, it only borks when you use mod_python?
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[06:57:04] <shap> thatch: 1. installing python-sqlite2 package seems to get me running (still need to test that my tweaks survived, but this is a good step). Yes, trac-admin worked, or at least did not complain.
[06:57:18] <shap> thatch: I will file a bug on fedora about the missing dependency.
[06:57:51] * alceu is now known as serenao
[06:58:04] <shap> thatch: I'll also close my bug on the trac wiki.
[06:58:59] <thatch> shap: I can close it for you
[06:59:23] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5828 (enhancement created): enable fortran 90 high-lighting <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5828>
[06:59:28] <shap> thatch: Let me do it -- I'm looking at the relevant fedora bug report now, and I can enter the cross-reference for use by others.
[07:00:35] <serenao> hi! A not long time ago I used to define parent ticket in some tickets that I created. Now I've recently installed Trac and now I don't have that option anymore. Can I configure something to have this option again?
[07:00:58] <thatch> shap: just add it as a comment, I've closed it already
[07:01:33] <thatch> serenao: Master Tickets?
[07:02:19] <thatch> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/MasterTicketsPlugin
[07:03:35] <serenao> thatch: cool :-)
[07:04:06] <serenao> thatch, have it some page with all plugins that I can install?
[07:04:27] <thatch> serenao: trac-hacks.org has a big list, way more than you would actually need
[07:06:10] <serenao> thatch: ok. I have easy_install installed, how can I use it to download and install that MasterTickets plugin?
[07:06:55] <thatch> serenao: try 'sudo easy_install TracMasterTickets'
[07:07:56] <serenao> thatch: done. :-) Thank you a lot!
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[07:10:05] <shap> thatch: How hard would it be for the trac startup code to complain if the required python->sqlite binding is missing? The fedora maintainer doesn't want to add the sqlite dependency because other databases can be used, and he has a point.
[07:13:07] <shap> thatch: Now that we are running, is there a clean way to export the ticket dataset?
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[07:16:47] <serenao> thatch: just a little doubt that I couldn't find an answer.. When I say to a new ticket a #2 "Blocking" value, am I saying that ticket #2 is blocking my new ticket? or my new ticket is blocking my #2 ticket?
[07:17:15] <thatch> shap: I updated the ticket, there was a ML thread that was faulting mod_python or some such, running on FC6 with that same error.
[07:18:50] <thatch> shap: I'd say just use sql for your exports, such as 'sqlite /path/to/db .dump > backup'
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[07:20:07] <thatch> serenao: it sounds like if you put 'Blocking: [#2 ]' on #999 that #2 can't be closed till #999 is
[07:20:18] <thatch> but I'd have to play with it to find out for sure, I didn't write the plugin
[07:21:56] <serenao> thatch: ok.. Because I'm not too sure, and the page doesn't say more about it.. coderanger made the plugin, right?
[07:23:09] <serenao> coderanger, can you answer that question? When I say to a new ticket a #2 "Blocking" value, am I saying that ticket #2 is blocking my new ticket? or my new ticket is blocking my #2 ticket?
[07:23:34] <serenao> coderanger_
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[07:27:20] <shap> thatch: thanks for everything!
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[07:28:44] <serenao> thatch, I did close that two tickets in both cases and nothing happened to block that action, some warning, etc
[07:29:40] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5827 (defect closed): Upgrade 0.10.2 -> 0.10.4 fails in fedora 7 <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5827#comment:4>
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[07:33:29] <mosez> hi
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[07:33:54] <mosez> can i add some static html pages to trac? something like auto generated api documentation?
[07:36:16] <thatch> mosez: if they're in the repository, you could include them in a wiki page
[07:36:21] <thatch> kinda
[07:37:21] <thatch> I can't think of a terribly direct way to do it, but find it interesting there's no plugin for that already.
[07:38:00] <thatch> mosez: perhaps http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/XsltMacro
[07:39:11] <mosez> i take a look at that
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[07:40:39] <mosez> thatch: thx
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[07:51:03] <serenao> hi! I tried to install TagsPlugin and now my Trac is broke! Now it's showing an error page
[07:51:07] <lisppaste5> serenao pasted "trac message error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/45696
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[07:51:26] <serenao> can anybody help me please?
[07:52:07] <serenao> I followed that tutorial: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TagsPlugin/Installation
[07:54:53] <aat> @faq plugins
[07:54:54] <evil_twin> aat: "plugins" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPlugins <-- How to install and activate Trac plugins
[07:55:08] <aat> serenao: you need to configure your egg cache
[07:55:20] <aat> or rather, you need to configure a writeable one
[07:55:25] <aat> writeable by the web server
[07:56:02] <serenao> but I already set /var/www/* with the www-data user
[07:56:39] <serenao> aat: I don't now anything about eggs..
[07:56:46] <aat> /* will not hit /.egg-cache
[07:56:50] <serenao> hmm
[07:57:13] <serenao> aat: as I said :-D
[07:57:19] <serenao> hehe
[07:57:21] <serenao> thanks!
[07:57:23] <aat> ;)
[07:57:24] <aat> np
[07:59:56] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5737 (defect closed): Missing or invalid form token. Do you have cookies enabled? <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5737#comment:8>
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[08:30:07] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: 0.11/TracInstall edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracInstall>
[08:30:56] <serenao> guys, how can I define a trac.ini file with default configurations for all created project?
[08:31:14] <serenao> and future projects too
[08:33:34] <aat> for 0.10 just plonk it in /usr/share/trac/conf/trac.ini
[08:33:44] <aat> for 0.11 use the inherit setting
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[08:35:51] <serenao> aat: ok, but if this file don't exists?
[08:36:21] <serenao> aat: just create it and then Trac will use?
[08:36:48] <serenao> aat: or need I make some aditional configuration?
[08:37:11] <aat> create it
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