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August 11, 2007

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[00:37:36] <otaku42_home> uhm... hey guys, any idea when 0.11 will be released? a beta even? it's been in work since ages!!1!
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[00:37:43] <otaku42_home> ;)
[00:37:48] <otaku42_home> just kidding
[00:37:55] <otaku42_home> ignore me
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[01:04:01] <coderanger> @faq rsn
[01:04:01] <evil_twin> coderanger: "rsn" is Real Soon Now (tm)
[01:07:22] <coderanger> Hmm, someone is mucking with my dev server
[01:12:00] <coderanger> Somewhere in .nl
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[02:32:21] <hsn_> can i rename wiki pages?
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[02:39:25] <coderanger> hsn_: WikiRename plugin
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[03:44:27] <coderanger> Anyone wanna test something for me?
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[05:21:26] <otaku42_home> coderanger: depends on what you would like to have tested...#
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[06:23:57] <Uranellus> hello, how do I unlock a database after getting (OperationalError: database is locked)
[06:26:28] <Uranellus> (link: http://rz.gymhaan.de/trac/limbo/report/1 )
[06:26:37] <Uranellus> hm works now .. nvm ..
[06:29:33] <Uranellus> hm now I get this .. (btw. using 0.10.4)
[06:29:33] <Uranellus> trac-admin . milestone completed 0.1 now
[06:29:34] <Uranellus> Command failed: database is locked
[06:32:13] <Getty> but you dont let run 2 daemons, or? ;)
[06:37:00] <Uranellus> Getty: no .. i'm running trac with apache2 - mod_python
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[06:42:53] <saylar> hey guys
[06:43:17] <saylar> is this the right place when i have a question about lcd4linux?
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[06:45:43] <Uranellus> saylar: look at the topic (I'm not sure, but I'd probably say it is the wrong chan)
[06:46:37] <saylar> hmm, yeah. that's what i just saw.
[06:46:50] <saylar> thx though
[06:48:24] <otaku42_home> saylar: maybe the lcd4linux website has further information about where to get support
[06:49:03] <saylar> i googled for a irc channel of lcd4linux, this was the only one i found
[06:49:32] <saylar> justed wanted to ask a simple question, and i thought irc would be the best way to do so
[06:49:53] <saylar> trying to avoid mailinglists *g*
[06:50:16] <Getty> and why this should be the right irc channel?
[06:50:30] <Uranellus> lol probably because of this saylar? http://ssl.bulix.org/projects/lcd4linux/wiki/Howto_de
[06:51:10] <Getty> Uranellus: he cant be that stupid ;)
[06:51:49] <saylar> well, as i said. i googled for lcd4linux and irc and came across this site
[06:51:50] <saylar> https://ssl.bulix.org/projects/lcd4linux/wiki/TracSupport
[06:52:05] <saylar> which is obvious the official site for lcd4linux
[06:52:05] <Getty> yeah TracSupport
[06:52:08] <Getty> the support for trac ;)
[06:52:17] <saylar> well, i just saw that.
[06:52:26] <saylar> sorry for stealing your time ;)
[06:52:32] <Uranellus> saylar: np :)
[06:53:24] <saylar> sometimes i'm just too impatiened *g*
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[06:59:36] <saylar> oh dear jesus.
[06:59:50] <saylar> Getty: i'm really *that* stupid
[07:00:01] <saylar> can't believe myself.....
[07:00:55] <otaku42_home> shit happens
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[07:01:41] <saylar> yeah. story of life ;)
[07:01:44] <saylar> +my
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[10:20:09] <psykidellic> hi...I am trying to install TRAC on FreeBSD from ports. I had installed subversion before but now I installed SWIG. So do I need to recompile Subversion again to bind it with SWIG? Also do I require subversion-python port to be installed?
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[10:45:37] <ged> psykidellic: You only need subversion-python if you're going to use Trac with subversion.
[10:47:14] <psykidellic> okie
[10:47:27] <psykidellic> I had Subversion installed and its daemons.
[10:47:34] <psykidellic> Should I deintsall them and install subversion-python
[10:47:53] <psykidellic> or just installing subversion-python after my subversion installation would do
[10:48:01] <ged> Have you tried just installing the trac port with the subversion option turned on?
[10:48:16] <psykidellic> the trac port is very old.
[10:48:17] <ged> It's a dependency, so it will likely do all that stuff for you if it's necessary.
[10:48:48] <ged> It installs 10.4, at least on my FreeBSD box.
[10:49:47] <ged> psykidellic: The Makefile tag is: $FreeBSD: ports/www/trac/Makefile,v 1.31 2007/06/09 02:53:49 clsung Exp $
[10:49:53] <ged> So two months?
[10:50:39] <psykidellic> very strange. I just installed FreebSD 6.2 couple of days back.
[10:50:52] <psykidellic> Mine says: 2006/ ... :(
[10:51:13] <ged> Have you done a 'make fetchindex update' in your ports tree lately?
[10:51:29] <psykidellic> nope.
[10:52:03] <psykidellic> I thought I had installed the latest version, it would be updated.
[10:52:05] <psykidellic> I will do that
[10:53:00] <ged> Well, they update the ports collection more often than the OS.
[10:53:37] <psykidellic> ged, I understand. I got the error; Please define either PORTSNAP_UPDATE, SUP_UPDATE, or CVS_UPDATE first
[10:53:43] <psykidellic> So now I will go and fix this issue first :)
[10:54:46] <ged> psykidellic: This may help: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html#PORTS-UPGRADING
[10:55:48] <psykidellic> ged, super thanks.
[10:55:51] <psykidellic> I will read it now.
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[12:48:00] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
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[13:48:24] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #3051 (defect closed): maximum recursion limit exceeded in trac 0.94 <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3051#comment:9> || Ticket #5185 (enhancement closed): Use specific icon for mailto links <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5185#comment:1> || Changeset [5899]: Implement #5185 <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5899>
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[14:10:10] <teef> hello out there in trac land I have a question about plugins?
[14:11:39] <teef> I am getting "admin.cs not found" after I install the WebAdmin plugin
[14:11:58] <teef> for some reason it can't find the plugin templates directory which I don't exactly understand
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[15:19:00] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #2981 (defect closed): unable to upload files which filename is non-english characters <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2981#comment:12>
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[16:19:22] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5260 (enhancement closed): bug in tracd <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5260#comment:1> || Changeset [5900]: Improve error message for #5260 <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5900>
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[16:59:03] <erne_24> hi!
[17:01:55] <erne_24> I have this situation i would like to solve: In the company were i work we develop apps for inside customers (i mean, the customer is part of the company). We are using trac now to manage our soft project. But we would like to give out customers a way of issuing tickets (but not with trac, they are not developers). My question is: "is tehere any way to hook tickets in one system (for example: request tracker) with tickets in trac"?
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[17:13:35] <coderanger> erne_24: Why can't they put them in Trac?
[17:19:47] <erne_24> coderanger: because it is more developers oriented. The customers i am talking about know nothing about development.
[17:20:00] <coderanger> Okay, you hand them a box and they type in it
[17:20:06] <coderanger> What part of that is developer oriented
[17:22:40] <erne_24> coderanger: ok, suppose i create a trac environment with no repo associated to it and nothing so they create tickets on it. Is there any way that then, developers could say: "hey, this ticket request translates to this four "coding" tickets" and he associates this four tickets in diferent trac environments to this "parent" ticket... and this parent tickets is automatically set to "fixed" when the child tickets gets fixed?
[17:23:01] <coderanger> You wouldn't use different environments
[17:23:28] <coderanger> You would use the same one with a permissions-restricted client account (or anonymous), SimpleTicket, and MasterTickets
[17:24:41] <erne_24> coderanger: i would like to... to separate tickets that are not code related from the ones that are. Is for the sake of simplicity... and to make easier to our customers search the active tickets and dont getting confuse by a lot of tickets regarding coding
[17:24:57] <coderanger> Then use PrivateTickets
[17:25:13] <coderanger> There are many ways to do what you want, but not the way you are describing
[17:25:46] <coderanger> Just look at the following plugins, PrivateTickets, HideVals, CondFields, SimpleTicket, MasterTickets
[17:25:53] <erne_24> where can i learn about privatetickets, simpletickets, mastertickets etc?
[17:25:58] <coderanger> Between those you should be able to do what you want
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[17:26:06] <coderanger> trac-hacks.org, along will all other plugins
[17:26:47] <erne_24> ok
[17:26:53] <erne_24> i will check that out
[17:26:57] <erne_24> thanks
[17:36:47] <BrianHV> wow. when did MasterTickets happen?
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[17:38:52] <coderanger> BrianHV: I did the initial version around PyCon last year, so febuaryish
[17:39:07] <BrianHV> guess I haven't been paying attention...
[17:39:17] <coderanger> BrianHV: The much nicer 0.11 version I did a month ago or do
[17:39:18] <BrianHV> thanks for writing it. I'll probably give it a try next week
[17:40:05] <BrianHV> it would be nice if there were some way to see new hacks via rss somehow...
[17:40:50] <coderanger> BrianHV: I send email to list for things I know have been major requests.
[17:41:16] <BrianHV> that's something... I confess I have a habit of marking all as read on the trac list though
[17:42:11] <coderanger> Also watch the ticket on t.e.o, as someone will usually mention if a plugin implements the functionality
[17:42:41] <datallah> coderanger: remember a few months ago you helped us optimize the trac installation on developer.pidgin.im?
[17:42:49] <coderanger> indeedy
[17:42:57] <datallah> I'm reading this: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFaq#Tracseemstorunveryslowly
[17:43:12] <datallah> (and am confused why we moved to fastcgi)
[17:43:19] <coderanger> datallah: Because thats just incorrect
[17:43:26] <datallah> ah
[17:43:44] <coderanger> datallah: wsgi vs. fcgi vs. mod_python all show about the same speed when configured correctly
[17:43:52] <coderanger> The reason to use fcgi is to use lighty
[17:44:01] <datallah> ok, that is what I figured
[17:44:06] <coderanger> As it generally scales nicer w.r.t. memory usage
[17:44:15] <datallah> perhaps that faq entry should be updated then :P
[17:44:46] <coderanger> datallah: Yeah, probably ;-)
[17:44:51] <coderanger> Go for it :)
[17:45:02] <ricky> datallah: By the way, "Fedora Core" should possibly be replaced with just Fedora on http://pidgin.im/download/, if you'd be the right person to mention that to.
[17:45:31] <datallah> I really don't know enough to give a good answer (apart from regurgitate what you just said)
[17:45:37] <datallah> ricky: ok, thanks, I'll take care of that
[17:45:48] <coderanger> One day someone should sit down and do some real testing with mod_python, mod_fcgi, mod_fcgid, lighty+fcgi, mod_wsgi, tracd, tracd+nginx, tracd+mod_proxy_balancer
[17:46:06] <ricky> Thanks a lot- After FC6, extras/core merged, so from 7 onward, it's just Fedora 8, etc.
[17:46:34] <datallah> ricky: actually it is correct in that context since we only have stuff up to FC6 there
[17:46:56] <ricky> datallah: Aha, true. Anyway, I'll stop being off-topic now :)
[17:47:18] <coderanger> ricky: We don't much care when its quiet
[17:47:21] <datallah> at any rate, I'll ask the developer who packages for Fedora to figure out the right thing to do.
[17:47:57] * coderanger eyes f7 angrily
[17:48:43] * ricky smashes coderanger's keyboard- problem solved :)
[17:49:18] <coderanger> ricky: Get someone to go review my packages- problem solved better :P
[17:49:51] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracFeatures edited by sam@serndesign.com <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFeatures>
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[18:20:01] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: BadContent edited by nkantrowitz <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/BadContent>
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[18:46:30] <eshear> hey - I'm trying to write a little greasmonkey script for enhancing my trac usage
[18:46:44] <eshear> how can I figure out the minimal post required to, say, set a ticket to resolved?
[18:47:05] <coderanger> eshear: Impossible
[18:47:13] <eshear> sigh
[18:47:14] <eshear> impossible?
[18:47:22] <eshear> I mean I know it's theoretically possible
[18:47:28] <coderanger> eshear: No, it isn't
[18:47:34] <eshear> I could do an AJAX get for the ticket's page
[18:47:46] <eshear> insert all the equivalent form fields, hidden
[18:47:50] <eshear> update the state
[18:47:52] <eshear> and hit submit
[18:47:53] <coderanger> eshear: We have a CSRF protection system that blocks external script submissions
[18:48:00] <eshear> not external
[18:48:05] <coderanger> Yes, if you parse out the entire page ...
[18:48:19] <coderanger> You are better off using XML-RPC though
[18:48:23] <eshear> hm
[18:48:39] <eshear> I just want to add a little link on my lists of tickets
[18:48:46] <eshear> that lets me mark them as done directly from that page
[18:48:46] <coderanger> Okay, make a plugin
[18:48:51] <eshear> my trac is hosted
[18:49:23] <eshear> (looking at the plugins on trac-hacks.org right now)
[18:49:33] <coderanger> Hrmm
[18:50:56] <coderanger> The minimum parsing would be to grab the ticket page, and look for something like this <input type="hidden" name="__FORM_TOKEN" value="..." />
[18:51:12] <eshear> i can probably do that...
[18:51:17] <eshear> what other elements need to be on the page?
[18:51:32] <eshear> do I need to specify every field of the ticket?
[18:51:37] <eshear> or if I skip them, will they just be ignored?
[18:52:11] <eshear> I tried reading the source, but I wasn't really sure where to start
[18:53:41] <coderanger> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/tags/trac-0.10.4/trac/ticket/web_ui.py#L292
[18:53:47] <coderanger> I would start from there
[18:53:57] <eshear> ah, i see
[18:54:52] <coderanger> It looks like the answer is yes, you need them all
[18:55:02] <eshear> that's what I was afraid of, from my limited testing
[18:55:29] <eshear> (I used firebug to kill off all the elements other than the ones I wanted from the standard form, and it said I had to supply a summary)
[18:58:18] <eshear> using ajax is totally going to work thoug
[18:58:21] <eshear> thanks for the help
[18:59:03] <coderanger> eshear: It will still be way easier to use xml-rpc
[19:17:22] <eshear> wouldn't I have to install an xml-rpc plugin for that?
[19:17:31] <coderanger> Yes
[19:17:39] <eshear> this is more fun anyway :)
[19:17:53] <eshear> I've got the form now
[19:18:01] <eshear> just a couple more tweaks and it'll be working
[19:18:13] <eshear> and I can reapply the machinery for it everywhere
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[19:37:46] <eshear> I can't find the CSRF system stuff
[19:38:02] <eshear> __FORM_TOKEN doesn't appear anywhere in the form I can find
[19:39:41] <coderanger> eshear: Where are you looking?
[19:42:11] <eshear> in the ticket page form
[19:42:20] <eshear> (the one with the preview and submit changes buttons)
[19:42:25] <coderanger> In the template?
[19:43:06] <eshear> no, in the result
[19:43:06] <coderanger> (it isn't in the template)
[19:43:06] <eshear> I see an element with timestamp
[19:43:06] <coderanger> Look up at the top, right after the <form>
[19:44:09] <eshear> yeah, it's just <h3 /> and then it's the comment stuff
[19:44:19] <coderanger> This isn't <0.10 is it?
[19:44:29] <eshear> heh, I have no idea
[19:44:30] <eshear> let me check
[19:44:36] <eshear> oh, it is
[19:44:37] <coderanger> Its shown at the bottom of the page
[19:44:38] <eshear> 0.9.4
[19:44:41] <coderanger> Yeeeeah
[19:44:53] <coderanger> The CSRF system went in in 0.10.1 IIRC
[19:44:59] <eshear> i see
[19:45:06] <eshear> ok, good, so that's not the problem :)
[19:45:14] <coderanger> 0.9.4 is now over 2 years old, I would strongly recommend avoiding it
[19:58:32] <eshear> hooray, it's working
[19:58:37] <eshear> I'll bug my host about upgrading though :)
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[23:02:53] <Chaoslux> Anyone active, even if its late :X ?
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[23:54:48] <Chaoslux> ...hello shawn?
[23:55:05] <Chaoslux> gah screw it, imma sleepy,gonna ask tomorrow
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