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<moolight> |
that's quite a lot. i once why ppl (including me) need sooo much app running, and also those installed but not used frequently |
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<coderanger> |
moolight: I use every one of those pretty constantly |
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<moolight> |
do u think normal user or developers run more apps at the same time? :) |
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<heatxsink> |
can anyone help me with my trac configuration? |
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<coderanger> |
moolight: Oh no, I fully agree that I am not a normal user, just that the mac mini doesn't scale to power users very well |
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<coderanger> |
heatxsink: Probably |
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<moolight> |
heatxsink: not if you don't ask the question |
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<Rucha> |
is it possible to use rss-client to access authenticeted area such as TICKET_VIEW and so on? |
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<coderanger> |
Rucha: Depends on your client program |
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<Rucha> |
i use SharpReader |
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<coderanger> |
Rucha: Some require an auth challenge, for those you can use AccountManager+HttpAuth plugin |
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<heatxsink> |
http://pastebin.com/m415c7461 |
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<heatxsink> |
can someone please look at this? |
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<coderanger> |
heatxsink: CGI sucks, don't use it |
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<heatxsink> |
use mod_python? |
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<coderanger> |
heatxsink: Or FCGI, or mod_wsgi |
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<coderanger> |
Basically anything that isn't plain CGI |
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<coderanger> |
Rucha: I don't know about that client in particular |
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<heatxsink> |
coderanger: could you give me a link to the docs on how to configure apache with trac and mod_wsgi? |
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<coderanger> |
@wiki TracModWsgi |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModWsgi |
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<Rucha> |
coderanger: can you suggest appropriate rss-client? |
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<heatxsink> |
that shit is blank |
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<coderanger> |
Rucha: I use Vienna, but that is mac only |
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<coderanger> |
@wiki TracModWSGI |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModWSGI |
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<coderanger> |
heatxsink: Also, being rude in a help channel is a mighty fast way to get banner |
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<coderanger> |
er, banned |
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<Rucha> |
is Vienna able get access to authenticated area? |
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<heatxsink> |
doh |
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<heatxsink> |
sorry |
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<coderanger> |
Rucha: Never had a problem with it, there is an option with each feed for username/password |
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<heatxsink> |
I wasn't trying to be rude |
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<heatxsink> |
my bad |
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<Rucha> |
coderanger: 10x! |
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<coderanger> |
Rucha: ? |
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<Rucha> |
coderanger: i mean thank's! :) |
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<coderanger> |
Rucha: Ahh, if you are using Sharp* I doubt you will be able to run Vienna |
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<Rucha> |
but now I now what should I looking for. I need rss-client with authencitaced possibilities |
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<coderanger> |
Rucha: Ahh, anything that supports HTTP authentication |
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<Rucha> |
yes, i mean exactly that thing |
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<erikand> |
hi |
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<erikand> |
I just found the visit dropdown in 0.11 |
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<erikand> |
how do I configure what to show in that list? |
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<coderanger> |
Do you mean version? |
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<heatxsink> |
i'm trying to get the login feature working can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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<erikand> |
hmm.. don't think so |
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<erikand> |
when I press browse source, I get a dropdown list with name visit: |
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<coderanger> |
heatxsink: What isn't working |
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<erikand> |
and there are some entries trunk/*, branches/* selectable |
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<coderanger> |
erikand: The quickjump list |
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<erikand> |
yes |
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<erikand> |
I'll google for quickjump then |
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<heatxsink> |
so I'm using mod_auth_pam |
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<heatxsink> |
and for some reason I can't login to admin trac, I've done everything to set myself up as an admin via trac-admin on the trac instance |
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<coderanger> |
erikand: It populates it from the branches and tags in the repo |
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<coderanger> |
heatxsink: Are you using shadow auth? |
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<heatxsink> |
yup |
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<coderanger> |
Did you notice the huge warning on the mod_auth_pam page that said to not use it? |
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<coderanger> |
You should really use mod_auth_external |
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<coderanger> |
+pwauth that is |
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<coderanger> |
heatxsink: Though at that point you might was well just use the PwauthPlugin and not deal with Apache |
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<erikand> |
coderanger: yes, I figured that, but isn't it configureable where to find te branches and tags |
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<erikand> |
we have components at root level in repository |
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<coderanger> |
erikand: It was in the original branch, not sure what happened to that |
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<coderanger> |
erikand: Ask on the ML |
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<erikand> |
thanks |
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<coderanger> |
erikand: cboos doesn't hang around here much anymore |
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<erikand> |
ah, found it. It was in trac.ini |
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<erikand> |
[svn] |
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<erikand> |
branches = /component1/branches/*,component1/trunk |
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<erikand> |
tags = /component1/tags/* |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5872 (defect created): Possibility to hide menu items in mainnav <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5872> || TracModWsgi edited by nkantrowitz <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModWsgi> |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5873 (enhancement closed): Resend ticket function <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5873#comment:1> || Ticket #5873 (enhancement created): Resend ticket function <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5873> || TracProject/DefaultWikiPages edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracProject/DefaultWikiPages> || TracNavigation edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracNavigation> || Ticket #5872 (defect closed): Possibility to hide menu items in mainnav <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5872#comment:1> |
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<Rucha> |
is it possible to hide trac-folder within main page of trac-system? |
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<semi_> |
How do I set trac to show time in UTC instead of my local timezone? |
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<semi_> |
timeline timestamps and such |
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<semi_> |
pretty confusing for users outside my timezone |
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<semi_> |
system clock is in utc and the timezone is set properly |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5568 (defect closed): weird output instead of source file <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5568#comment:2> || Ticket #5869 (defect closed): Extra slashes in auto links to existing pages. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5869#comment:2> |
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New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by trac@alwins-world.de <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers> |
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unstable piece of ... |
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coderanger_: edgewall.org having issues for you too? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5874 (enhancement created): Link changesets in tickets automatically if the commit included the ticket number <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5874> |
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<devurandom> |
Hi! |
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<devurandom> |
I have a slight problem with Trac on Lighttpd. I want to setup it to serve trac on http://proj.domain.tld/, so that I can access my projects at proj.dom.tld/projectname/. However currently I have to enter proj.dom.tld/projname/projname/ to access it. Config is: http://pastebin.ca/656752 Can someone explain me why it does not work? |
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<devurandom> |
Is it trac, which expects $1 in /$1/$2/ to be some /path/to/trac? |
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<devurandom> |
Found "PythonOption TracUriRoot /" in the wiki for mod_python. May that be the key? How is this named for FastCGI? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5874 (enhancement closed): Link changesets in tickets automatically if the commit included the ticket number <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5874#comment:1> |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5552 (defect closed): Admin: crash when adding existing version name <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5552#comment:2> || Ticket #5329 (defect closed): default behavior for [wiki: text] <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5329#comment:3> |
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<devurandom> |
What do these lines do? |
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<devurandom> |
path_info = environ.get('PATH_INFO', '').lstrip('/').split('/') |
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<devurandom> |
env_name = path_info.pop(0) |
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<devurandom> |
PATH_INFO is a webserver var which contains the requested URI, right? |
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<devurandom> |
So for /projectname/xxx path_info.pop(0) should be projectname, right? |
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<Thanatermesis> |
is possible to edit the files of the svn-repo directly via web ? (like when you pick on "Browse Source" but with the possibility to edit it), i think that's a very cool feature, maybe exist a plugin for do that ? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5874 (enhancement closed): Link changesets in tickets automatically if the commit included the ticket number <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5874#comment:3> || Ticket #5874 (enhancement reopened): Link changesets in tickets automatically if the commit included the ticket number <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5874#comment:2> |
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<devurandom> |
Thanatermesis: That would require a full svn client inside trac, I think... |
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<devurandom> |
My PATH_INFO var seems to be always empty... |
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<devurandom> |
I assume that means that my lighttpd is setup wrongly? |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: perhaps, can you pastebin your config? |
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<devurandom> |
thatch: http://pastebin.ca/656752 |
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<devurandom> |
[13:20] <devurandom> I have a slight problem with Trac on Lighttpd. I want to setup it to serve trac on http://proj.domain.tld/, so that I can access my projects at proj.dom.tld/projectname/. However currently I have to enter proj.dom.tld/projname/projname/ to access it. Config is: http://pastebin.ca/656752, Can someone explain me why it does not work? |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: I'm checking on how I have mine set up... what versions of lighty and trac? |
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<devurandom> |
REQUEST_URI seems to be correct... |
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<devurandom> |
1.4.16 + 0.10.4 |
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<devurandom> |
PATH_INFO /hu path_info [] env_name hu REQUEST_URI /nix/hu SCRIPT_NAME /nix |
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<devurandom> |
So apparently lighttpd seems to think that the script is named /nix, but it really should be / |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: that's kind of what I'm thinking. Does setting fastcgi.server = ("" work? |
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<thatch> |
I use lighty but have separate fastcgi listeners for each project |
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<devurandom> |
Doesnt work: ValueError: PATH_INFO path_info [] env_name REQUEST_URI /nix/non/sense/ SCRIPT_NAME /nix/non/sense/ |
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<devurandom> |
(The ValueError is my debug thing) |
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<thatch> |
ok |
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<devurandom> |
Setting up the fcgi for "/" gives me this: ValueError: PATH_INFO /non/sense/ path_info ['sense', ''] env_name non REQUEST_URI /nix/non/sense/ SCRIPT_NAME /nix |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: I can reproduce the behavior at the root with Trac 0.11-dev |
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<thatch> |
and lighty 1.4.13 |
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<devurandom> |
I assume I have to force lighty to assume SCRIPT_NAME=/ |
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<devurandom> |
Or ='' |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: yeah, my guess is it's a lighty bug because I didn't have that problem under mod_python |
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<thatch> |
but there's a workaround I'm pondering |
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<thatch> |
mount the trac fastcgi at /trac and set up a rewrite |
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<thatch> |
basically /(?!chrome).* -> trac/$1 |
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<devurandom> |
Bug in lighty? Shall I report that somewhere? |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: I just located a ticket, this is a known issue with fastcgi http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/ticket/729 |
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<devurandom> |
Thanks. |
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<devurandom> |
thatch: Like this? |
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<devurandom> |
alias.url += ( "/trac" => "/var/www/projects.kynes.de/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi" ) |
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<devurandom> |
url.rewrite-final += ( "^/(?!chrome).*" => "/trac/$2" ) |
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<devurandom> |
$HTTP["url"] =~ "^/(?!chrome)" { |
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<devurandom> |
fastcgi.server = ( |
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<devurandom> |
"/" => ( |
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<devurandom> |
$1... |
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<devurandom> |
Gives me: PATH_INFO / path_info [] env_name REQUEST_URI /nix/non/sense/ SCRIPT_NAME /trac |
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<thatch> |
let me poke at my server and get it working, then I'll send the config |
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<devurandom> |
"(?!chrome).*" -> The (?) part becomes $1, right? |
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<thatch> |
right, it needs parens around the .* |
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<thatch> |
and now I'm having issues with the uri root for subsequent links |
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<devurandom> |
How does the regexp have to look like? |
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<devurandom> |
I got it working with /(.*), but that also includes /chrome... |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: http://pastebin.ca/656862 |
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<thatch> |
that's what I have so far but all the links are incorrect |
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<devurandom> |
Ah, yes, that works. |
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<thatch> |
albeit with broken links, right? |
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<devurandom> |
Well, works == PATH_INFO is correct. |
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<devurandom> |
Hm, yes... |
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<devurandom> |
It now has links to /trac/proj |
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<devurandom> |
Well, I'll stay with Trac in /trac for now... |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: try http://timhatch.com/ex/2007/08/trac-lighty-at-root.diff (I don't know if it'll apply to 0.10 cleanly) and set LIGHTY_WORKAROUND to / in the fastcgi env |
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<devurandom> |
It applied with fuzz 2 |
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<thatch> |
hmm, I only had two lines of context :) |
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<devurandom> |
And it works very well! |
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<devurandom> |
Thank you! |
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<thatch> |
yw |
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<devurandom> |
I'll change the var to TRAC_LIGHTTPD_ROOT_WORKAROUND and file a bug in both Trac and Gentoo... |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: there's already a trac ticket on the matter |
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<devurandom> |
Hm, ok... |
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<devurandom> |
Then I'll file the patch there... |
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<devurandom> |
Where is it? |
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<thatch> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2418 |
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<thatch> |
but as they say in the ticket, it's not something we should have to fix -- that's why I didn't go ahead and check it in. |
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<thatch> |
this is a temporary workaround until the lighty folks get their fix incorporated, because afaik it doesn't affect any other servers |
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<thatch> |
so you're welcome to put your modified diff up there, but don't expect it to be incorporated into the codebase :) |
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<devurandom> |
But it may help others... |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: true |
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<thatch> |
yo retracile |
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<retracile> |
hey thatch :) |
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<thatch> |
any lighttpd bugs you ran into for the nth time this morning? |
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<devurandom> |
thatch: http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/2418/trac_lighttpd_root_workaround.patch |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: can you add a note about setting the env var to "/" if running at the root? |
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<devurandom> |
thatch: Ok now? |
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<thatch> |
works for me |
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<thatch> |
now let's just hope that lighttpd 1.5 comes out quickly and happens to contain this fix. |
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<thatch> |
I've run into a lot of bugs with 1.4, the "auth causes stall" one and "request-method is not something we can base decisions on" being my personal peeves |
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<thatch> |
retracile: how long do the functional tests take to run right now? |
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<devurandom> |
? |
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<devurandom> |
auth causes stall? |
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<aat> |
evening |
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<retracile> |
thatch: um a couple minutes... I'll run 'em and check ;) |
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<retracile> |
hey aat :) |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: I've had a couple of configurations where lighty won't send the "authorization" required response unless you bounce the server |
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<thatch> |
then you wait for the server to come back up before submitting your login info. It's really annoying, but reproducible and dependent on some interaction between config vars I have |
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<thatch> |
mornin' aat |
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<thatch> |
retracile: do you have a windows machine handy to try to repro a bug? |
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<aat> |
hey eli, tim |
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<retracile> |
thatch: not real handy... I doubt it has python on it, even. |
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<thatch> |
nah, just needs IE |
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<thatch> |
or Opera |
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<retracile> |
Yeah, it has IE |
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<devurandom> |
For setting up SSL with Trac, which file is which? I have a .crt .csr and .key file from my apache installation... |
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<devurandom> |
Is the .crt the ca-file? |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: I use ssl.pemfile :) |
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<devurandom> |
What is the content of that? |
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<devurandom> |
(First line) |
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<thatch> |
-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY----- |
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<devurandom> |
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- or -----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY----- ? |
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<devurandom> |
Aha, good. |
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<thatch> |
followed by a bunch of what looks like base64 |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: but it has the cert line halfway through |
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<devurandom> |
It has both in it? |
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<thatch> |
devurandom: yeah |
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<devurandom> |
Anything else? |
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<thatch> |
nope |
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<thatch> |
retracile: see privmsg |
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<devurandom> |
Works well, thankyou! |
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<retracile> |
thatch: unittests, including functional tests: Ran 710 tests in 157.212s; just functional tests: Ran 23 tests in 129.236s |
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<aat> |
how is the testing branch going eli? |
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<aat> |
are you integrating them into the testing framework? |
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<retracile> |
aat: in sandbox/testing, running the unittests includes the functional tests. |
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<aat> |
ooh, nice! |
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<retracile> |
aat: you should try out the branch :) |
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<aat> |
no time :( |
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<aat> |
having enough trouble getting the rest of the security changes done |
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<retracile> |
aat: so use sandbox/testing as your baseline for a branch. It'll give you a good way to check that you haven't broken something. |
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<aat> |
that is a possibility |
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<retracile> |
it's the approach I use for my development. running the tests helps to keep me honest. ;) |
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<aat> |
heh |
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<aat> |
i noticed chris added bitten to the genshi trac |
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<aat> |
be nice if that was on trac's as well |
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<retracile> |
I think he indicated that bitten may be getting some attention again... which would be good. |
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<aat> |
although, t.e.o appears to be toast |
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<aat> |
yeah |
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<retracile> |
the buildbot list is also showing some renewed interest in a trac plugin |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5797 (defect closed): Expanding dirs in browser spin forever on error <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5797#comment:4> || Changeset [5904]: Remove trailing comma which was causing the IE issue in the reopened #5797 <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5904> || Ticket #5770 (defect closed): Bug downloading roadmap as ical when all priorities have been deleted <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5770#comment:1> |
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<aat> |
retracile: on python.org? |
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<aat> |
some guy made a snarky comment about trac on his blog a little while back, in reference to the trac buildbot |
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<retracile> |
aat: Heh. The buildbot guys are working (off and on) on a Trac plugin. It hasn't gotten a lot of traction yet, but Brian's been changing things that will make it easier to do, and talking about it. |
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<aat> |
i don't know that it was a buildbot dev, iirc it was somebody involved with the python.org buildbot |
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<aat> |
anyhoo |
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<retracile> |
I think there was someone running a bulidbot instance against trac, on python.org, but that buildbot has since been shut off (and apparently was seeing red a good bit even when it was running.) |
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<aat> |
manuzhai iirc |
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<retracile> |
yeah, I think that's right. |
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<thatch> |
yes, I confirm those are the facts I'm aware of |
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<thatch> |
but I never heard that it was failing tests. Doesn't trunk pass all tests? |
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<retracile> |
thatch: It does now. |
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<retracile> |
;) |
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<retracile> |
Back when I got my commit bit there were serveral times when they failed on trunk. |
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<aat> |
the tests were failing against python trunk iirc |
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<aat> |
we've all been guilty of that retracile :) |
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<retracile> |
heh ;) |
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<retracile> |
aat: they were also failing on python 2.4 that I was testing against. |
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<aat> |
yes, here's the link: http://agiletesting.blogspot.com/2007/07/pybots-updates.html |
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<retracile> |
ha!!!! http://toys.jacobian.org/presentations/2007/oscon/tutorial/images/django-master-class.005.png |
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<retracile> |
that's beautiful ;) |
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<thomasvs> |
pacopablo: so I just refactored pcauth.py into working for me with roles in fedora ds |
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<aat> |
hehe, yeah |
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<thomasvs> |
pacopablo: and there's a chance it may still work with AD |
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<thomasvs> |
pacopablo: I did this in my svn though |
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<thomasvs> |
pacopablo: I would like to rename it as well, to ldapauthplugin instead of ad_auth or pcauth |
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<thomasvs> |
pacopablo: do you want an svnfilterdiff of my stuff, or how should we do this ? |
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<thomasvs> |
question - I want to install some trac plugins as packages to have them available globally. |
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<thomasvs> |
do plugins define their own module package space, or do they come under a trac one ? |
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<thomasvs> |
ie, should the account manager be importable as "import acct_mgr", or "from trac import acct_mgr" ? |
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<thomasvs> |
or something else ? |
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<aat> |
they should not be under the trac package |
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<thomasvs> |
aat: so, trac plugins have the potential to conflict with any other python package, correct ? |
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<thomasvs> |
aat: does that mean I'm better off prefixing the name of my module with trac ? |
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<aat> |
that's what i generally do, yes |
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<aat> |
though plugins should really be installed only in the trac plugins directories |
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<aat> |
but people often don't adhere to that, i suspect |
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<retracile> |
aat: I install plugins globally.... and that means they're in site-packages |
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<Bamse-> |
Hi guys! I'm a newcomer to Trac and already love it ;-) However I have a question, I run Apache with mod_python and I can't see new commits after they have been done (Subversion) in the timeline or anywhere else. However, when I restart Apache I can see them in Trac? What can the problem be? Is there any cache somewhere? |
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<paulkist> |
hi everyone - new tracforge user here |
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<aat> |
retracile: right, but there's no real need to do that |
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<retracile> |
aat: Need, no. But it keeps the 'software' and the 'data' separate. |
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<aat> |
at the cost of spraying your site-packages with trac packages |
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<aat> |
which, as i recently found out, some distributions have problems with |
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<thomasvs> |
aat: but when I setup fifteen tracs, it's annoying to have to install plugins in each of them |
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<thomasvs> |
and then worse, keep them up to date all the time |
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<aat> |
thomasvs: there's a global trac plugins directory |
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<thomasvs> |
that's why I use a package manager in the first place. So I think trac should definately allow that. |
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<thomasvs> |
aat: there is ? where ? |
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<aat> |
/usr/share/trac/plugins, usually |
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<thomasvs> |
hm, not the best place to put code |
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<aat> |
that was kind of my point though - your package manager usually has no clue about trac plugins |
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<thomasvs> |
the FHS would not approve :) |
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<thomasvs> |
aat: it does if I install my plugins through the package manager |
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<thomasvs> |
which I have done in the past, and it works fine |
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<aat> |
very few plugins are packaged |
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<aat> |
if you do it yourself, then sure |
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<thomasvs> |
fedora has 5 of them packaged atm for example |
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<aat> |
heh |
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<thomasvs> |
that number's probably going to go up as more and more people/projects click with trac |
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<aat> |
5 out of...100s |
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<aat> |
which ones? |
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<thomasvs> |
aat: admittedly not all of them are equally good |
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<devurandom> |
FHS will not approve it? Why not? |
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<thomasvs> |
mostly the scm ones. git, mercurial. and webadmin. |
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<thomasvs> |
devurandom: plugins in /usr/share/ ? |
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<thomasvs> |
devurandom: /usr/share is for non-program data |
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<devurandom> |
So it should be /usr/lib/trac? |
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<thomasvs> |
for example |
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<devurandom> |
And are python scripts program data? |
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<thomasvs> |
I think they're treated as such yes |
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