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August 15, 2007

[00:00:16] <aat> yoyo
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[00:04:42] <otaku42> re
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[00:19:00] <asmodai> Morning Chris.
[00:19:02] * asmodai pats aat
[00:19:27] * asmodai does the svnmerge dance
[00:20:06] <fyrestrtr> is there a concise listing of which plugins/hacks to enable to get a client facing trac installation with multiple projects? I am swimming in different plugins/hacks/sites and just need a bit of guidance.
[00:20:20] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5917]: Merge with revisions 5842,5849,5853-5854,5856-5859. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5917>
[00:21:34] <aat> heh
[00:21:43] <aat> svnmerge is good
[00:21:56] <asmodai> aat: Got more lined up, just doing it batch-wise to minimize issues :)
[00:22:06] <aat> fyrestrtr: there's no "one" answer, unfortunately
[00:22:13] <aat> asmodai: what you working on?
[00:22:28] <asmodai> aat: updating trac-i18n
[00:22:34] <asmodai> and adding some more po's
[00:23:55] <aat> aha
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[00:24:47] <asmodai> aat: :)
[00:25:06] <asmodai> aat: Just had a lousy 2 weeks in which not much came from my fingers :S
[00:30:40] <asmodai> There we go.
[00:32:49] <aat> lousy how so?
[00:39:05] <asmodai> aat: lack of concentration, bad sleep
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[00:44:38] <coderanger> fyrestrtr: There aren't many options. Some mix of TracForge, TraM, and Postgres schema support will probably do what you need.
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[00:50:31] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5920]: Merge with revisions 5888-5892,5897,5899-5902,5904-5909,5912. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5920> || Changeset [5919]: Merge with revisions 5862-5867,5874-5875,5877,5879,5883. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5919> || Changeset [5918]: Also commit the svnmerge modifications. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5918>
[00:51:14] <moolight> SunWuKung: hi monkey, nice 2 meet u
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[01:56:28] <asmodai> aat: btw
[01:56:40] <asmodai> msgid "Attachment '%(title)s' does not exist."
[01:56:45] <asmodai> msgid "Attachment '%(filename)s' not found"
[01:57:44] <asmodai> Got to love stuff like that :)
[01:58:45] <aat> ?
[02:02:42] <moolight> asmodai: how is it supported?
[02:03:43] <asmodai> aat: I just wonder how you can trigger both. ;)
[02:04:51] <moolight> is "%(title)" supported in babel or gettext already?
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[02:08:30] <asmodai> jups
[02:08:36] * asmodai is doing nl_NL now
[02:08:47] <asmodai> and need to do some others too
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[02:21:01] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5924]: Update all currently present locales with the regenerated pot. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5924>
[02:24:20] <moolight> should pot be merged into po by translator or the programmer when you work with scm?
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[02:28:25] <asmodai> Given i am currently almost the only .po maintainer
[02:28:34] <asmodai> I think I'm quite safe.
[02:30:46] <moolight> i'm just asking question :)
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[02:33:48] <asmodai> I'm just providing an answer. Currently there's no released version of this all, so there's no 'formal procedure' we have yet to follow.
[02:43:43] <cmlenz> I think in the long term we'll need to move the localizations into external packages
[02:43:47] <cmlenz> i.e. language packs
[02:44:07] <cmlenz> we can't realistically do all the translations in our repository
[02:44:16] <cmlenz> think of the nightmares of doing a release
[02:45:40] <cmlenz> chandler/osaf have an approach we might adopt
[02:45:41] <cmlenz> eggtranslations
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[02:50:35] <asmodai> cmlenz: Weakling! Fix your de_DE! :P
[02:51:10] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5925]: Add a first version of the Dutch translation. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5925> || Ticket #5878 (enhancement created): Ticket-Permissions <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5878> || TracModPython edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython>
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[03:21:20] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracDev/ToDo edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/ToDo> || Ticket #5878 (enhancement closed): Ticket-Permissions <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5878#comment:2> || Ticket #5875 (defect closed): Minor typo in r5892 on trunk <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5875#comment:2>
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[04:36:29] <Cord_> hello everyone!
[04:36:45] <qasim> is it possible to secure the trac sites with https?
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[04:43:42] <Cord_> is there anyone around that has an intimate knowledge of trac - in particular, the timeline?
[04:44:50] <thatch> qasim: yes, certainly. But you'll need to set up ssl in apache/lighttpd/whatever, then have that use mod_proxy-to-tracd/mod_python/fastcgi/whatever to actually talk to trac
[04:45:10] <thatch> Cord_: I'm a dev, what's the issue?
[04:46:24] <qasim> thatch: is there any sort of guide that I can follow to achieve the desired result
[04:46:35] <Cord_> thatch: I have several projects and when I check anything into SVN I get the corresponding changet appearing on Trac. But, I don't know which project the changeset relates to
[04:47:06] <Cord_> thatch: is there any way to get the timeline to display the project name along with the changeset?
[04:53:05] <thatch> Cord_: kinda, yes
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[04:53:42] <thatch> you can have the timeline display the common path of all changes, so if you edit proj/trunk/hello.c and proj/trunk/Makefile it can say "2 changes in proj/trunk"
[04:53:45] <thatch> in the timeline view
[04:56:36] <thatch> Cord_: under [timeline] in trac.ini set changeset_show_files=location
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[04:59:13] <Cord_> thatch: thank you! that sounds just like what i need. but it does sound like i'll need to edit the source right? easy to do?
[04:59:36] <thatch> Cord_: no, there's a configuration file under <trac env>/conf/trac.ini that you'll just need to add the line to
[04:59:43] <thatch> in the right section, of course
[04:59:57] <Cord_> thatch: perfect... i'll try it now and let you know if it works
[05:00:28] <thatch> Cord_: after you make the change, you'll need to restart the webserver so it'll pick up the new trac.ini (it's only read on startup)
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[05:04:27] <Cord_> thatch: i changed trac.ini and restarted but got the error "ConfigurationError: expected integer, got u'location'"
[05:05:12] <Cord_> thatch: (when i refreshed the timeline that is)
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[05:06:55] <thatch> Cord_: what version of Trac are you running?
[05:07:19] <Cord_> thatch: 0.10.4
[05:09:11] <thatch> ah, the 'location' option was added in 0.11-dev. Try setting it to a small number like 3 or 5 instead, and see if that's still helpful enough
[05:10:00] <Cord_> thatch: changeset_show_files was originally set to 0. I set it to 1 and now I get a filename displayed. i'll try a couple other numbers to see what they do
[05:10:46] <thatch> Cord_: ok, good luck with that. I'm going to grab some breakfast, back in a bit.
[05:11:03] <Cord_> thatch: thanks for the help - it's really appreciated
[05:11:14] <Cord_> thatch: enjoy your breakfast
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[05:31:28] <asmodai> mmm
[05:31:31] <asmodai> wrt trac spam filter:
[05:31:32] <asmodai> I do, but it appears that the "minimum karma" was set too low. Do you
[05:31:32] <asmodai> know of a recommended minimum?
[05:31:57] <asmodai> eblot: responding to the email. :)
[05:34:58] <m_g> could anybody please give me an example for a report that sorts open tickets by the value of a custom text field? :)
[05:36:44] <thatch> m_g: It's relatively simple. Once you have a report that includes the field, just add it to the ORDER BY clause. Have you read http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTicketsCustomFields all the way through?
[05:37:27] <m_g> oh, didn't know there are examples on that page.. thanks thatch
[05:37:51] <thatch> m_g: yeah, in the last example (the LEFT OUTER JOIN) one I'd just throw a c.value in the ORDER BY and that should work.
[05:38:24] <m_g> thanks :)
[05:41:42] <m_g> thatch, why does the second report select it "AS progress" but not reference it anywhere?
[05:41:48] <m_g> is the AS necessary?
[05:42:32] <thatch> m_g: somewhat yes. the progress will get turned into a "Progress" header in the report
[05:42:51] <m_g> oh, ok!
[05:42:57] <thatch> if it lacked the AS then it'd be shown with a confusing column header
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[05:49:04] <serenao> Hi, I'm getting a strange error message in my Trac installation
[05:49:07] <lisppaste5> serenao pasted "Strange Trac error message" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/46173
[05:49:26] <thatch> serenao: one sec.
[05:50:01] <serenao> thatch: that happen when I try to open a ticket
[05:50:09] <thatch> serenao: what version of trac?
[05:50:25] <serenao> 0.10.3
[05:51:05] <serenao> thatch: that's about MasterTicketPlugin, right?
[05:51:47] <thatch> yes, but line 55 should always make block_ids a string
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[05:53:06] <thatch> serenao: aha! update master tickets, r2079 adds a fix that I'm seeing in the latest version you apparently don't have
[05:54:34] <aat> evening
[05:54:41] <thatch> howdy aat
[05:54:57] <aat> hey thatch
[05:54:59] <thatch> Do you have any feedback on wiki blames, aat?
[05:55:12] * asmodai pats aat
[05:55:46] <serenao> thatch: hmmmmm... ok. Sorry about my ignorance, but how can I do that? :-)
[05:55:47] <mOolight> is aat the elder brother of bat and cat?
[05:56:26] <asmodai> Not really.
[05:56:30] <asmodai> Father of opentype.
[05:56:32] <aat> on the mat
[05:56:41] <mOolight> no dat, but when they eat too much, they'll become fat
[05:56:59] <serenao> thatch: can easy_install help me doing it?
[05:56:59] <asmodai> aat: Who's the current spamfilter person to pester about karma questions?
[05:57:21] <thatch> serenao: yes, try easy_install -U TracMasterTickets, I'll be back in a sec
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[05:58:03] <slingintacos> marnin' trac pplz!
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[06:01:26] <aat> asmodai: what's the question?
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[06:06:28] <asmodai> aat: someone has trac + spamfilter:
[06:06:29] <asmodai> I do, but it appears that the "minimum karma" was set too low. Do you
[06:06:29] <asmodai> know of a recommended minimum?
[06:07:13] <aat> why do you think it's set too low?
[06:08:02] <aat> 0 is what it should be
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[06:09:27] <nyo> Hi. I made a little update for ru_RU translation for the i18n sandbox project. Should i create a ticket with attached translation or how should I send it to devs?
[06:09:49] <aat> nyo: there should already be a ticket for it
[06:10:03] <asmodai> aat: http://lists.xmlroff.org/pipermail/xmlroff-list/2007/000111.html
[06:10:33] <nyo> aat: do u mean, there is already a ticket or should i create it?:)
[06:10:37] <serenao> thatch: I did make the easy_install -U TracMasterTickets, a trac-admin upgrade, restarted apache and all worked fine... But the error message persists. :-\
[06:11:07] <aat> nyo: ...umm, the former
[06:11:23] <serenao> thatch: it's strange because some tickets open and some don't
[06:12:41] <aat> asmodai: 0 is what it should be. the various plugins adjust the karma up if they think you're not a spammer, and down if they do
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[06:14:40] <thatch> serenao: ok, then can you do a
[06:15:07] <asmodai> aat: Sent Tony some ideas.
[06:15:13] <thatch> serenao: subversion checkout of http://trac-hacks.org/svn/masterticketsplugin/0.10/ and 'sudo python setup.py install'
[06:15:15] <asmodai> aat: I wonder if he did the WordPress API key thing
[06:16:25] <aat> akismet?
[06:17:24] <mOolight> masterticketsplugin need patches..
[06:17:30] <asmodai> aat: Aye
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[06:19:39] <serenao> thatch: I got an error
[06:19:42] <lisppaste5> serenao annotated #46173 with "error trying mastertickets/setup.py install" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/46173#1
[06:19:49] <ezzer> Morning. Anyone know what column is affected by the "Accept Ticket"?
[06:20:08] <thatch> ezzer: hmm, status I think?
[06:20:23] <thatch> serenao: cd to 0.10 first.
[06:20:26] <ezzer> The default "My Tickets" query doesn't show tickets assigned to me if I haven't accepted I think.
[06:21:30] <thatch> ezzer: I tried on 0.10 and My Tickets is showing tickets I haven't accepted yet. What leads you to conclude that?
[06:23:01] <ezzer> I'm trying to put my finger on it. I had a ticket yesterday that didn't appear in my My Tickets. But my boss saw it in his Mylyn query for me.
[06:23:18] <ezzer> And then I searched for the ticket # and saw it and it was assigned to me.
[06:23:39] <ezzer> But I fixed that ticket and sent it off to QA.
[06:23:42] <thatch> ezzer: I'm on Trac 0.10.3, what version are you?
[06:23:53] <ezzer> So I'll have to try and reproduce.
[06:24:12] <ezzer> 10.3
[06:25:00] <ezzer> Lemme try to reproduce. I just opened up the SQL thinking it might be something simple.
[06:25:30] <cmlenz> asmodai: more comments regard the spamfilter: (1) everything should show up in the spamfilter log if that log is in fact enabled… if it's not in there, it wasn't actually filtered (possibly because the user was authenticated) (2) BadContent should be used as last resort, or for emergencies. It is way overused for Trac. Bayesian filtering is better by a far margin
[06:25:56] <serenao> thatch: done. Looking at messages, is that correct? If so, what is the next step?
[06:25:58] <lisppaste5> serenao annotated #46173 with "setup.py install messages" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/46173#2
[06:26:50] <thatch> serenao: no that's not supposed to happen.
[06:27:02] <ezzer> I don't understand this where clause: AND ticket_custom.name = 'issue_status'
[06:27:23] <thatch> ezzer: can you use a pastebin and give the whole thing?
[06:27:32] <ezzer> Anyone know what ticket_custom.name is for?
[06:27:37] <ezzer> Sure.
[06:27:50] <serenao> thatch: :-\
[06:28:18] <thatch> coderanger?
[06:28:19] <evil_twin> Rumor has it coderanger is packing all his belongings into a uhaul, thatch
[06:28:52] <lisppaste5> ezzer pasted "My Tickets query" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/46174
[06:28:52] <thatch> ezzer: it's doing a join with the custom field table perhaps
[06:29:16] <ezzer> Yeah, it's an inner join with that table.
[06:30:12] <ezzer> But 'issue_status' sounds weird to filter results on.
[06:30:25] <ezzer> I guess I just don't know what it means.
[06:31:04] <ezzer> But somehow my boss was seeing 3 extra tickets in his mylyn query than I was seeing in the web My Tickets.
[06:31:11] <thatch> ezzer: that line goes with the next one. It's getting all tickets owned by so-and-so that _have_ a custom field (by virtue of inner join) 'issue_status' whose status is not (a, b)
[06:31:21] <ezzer> I tried reproducing in my Mylyn but I didn't see those 3.
[06:31:50] <ezzer> Oh right.
[06:31:53] <ezzer> I see now.
[06:33:14] <serenao> thatch: what can I do now to resolve this trac's error..?
[06:33:56] <thatch> This is not Trac's error.
[06:34:18] <thatch> it seems like an issue with setuptools, for some reason it's not creating a file it can read
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[06:35:14] <asmodai> cmlenz: cheers
[06:35:20] <asmodai> cmlenz: passed it along
[06:37:14] <ezzer> So thatch, when I remove those 2 lines from the query I get repeated rows returned for each ticket.
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[06:37:35] <thatch> serenao: I don't know what your issue is exactly, try 'sudo easy_install --always-unzip .'
[06:37:42] <thatch> I can't help you further than that, it's a setuptools issue
[06:37:42] <ezzer> Different numbers of repeated rows for each ticket though. No pattern I can see.
[06:37:44] <DrFrasierCrane> does anyone have Trac working on python 2.4?
[06:37:59] <DrFrasierCrane> I have a dedicated hsoting server where I only have debian 3.1 sarge = python 2.4 max :-(
[06:38:05] <DrFrasierCrane> and I want to install Trac there
[06:38:30] <serenao> thatch: to make it sure that is not some sudoers' configuration problem, I tried now with su and this was returned:
[06:38:32] <lisppaste5> serenao annotated #46173 with "new setup.py install message" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/46173#3
[06:38:33] <thatch> DrFrasierCrane: yes, it should pretty much work in 2.3 also
[06:38:33] <ezzer> Seems like it repeats different values for the "Currently" column.
[06:38:47] <DrFrasierCrane> thatch, yes but I read that it can crash Apache...
[06:39:00] <DrFrasierCrane> and I don't want that since many other sites are running on that server
[06:39:40] <DrFrasierCrane> btw is it safe to use dev version of trac ?
[06:39:50] <DrFrasierCrane> or should I just stick to 0.10.4
[06:39:53] <thatch> DrFrasierCrane: you have several questions in there.
[06:40:05] <thatch> a. I don't know anything about it crashing Apache, I'd like to know where you read that
[06:40:12] <serenao> thatch: is that correct now?
[06:40:18] <thatch> b. (it must only be when using mod_python)
[06:40:24] <DrFrasierCrane> thatch, a. http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall
[06:40:30] <DrFrasierCrane> thatch, b. yes
[06:40:51] <thatch> c. 0.11-dev is reasonably stable, if you need its features, then go ahead. Otherwise stick to 0.10.4 for now if you can get its dependencies easily installed
[06:41:02] <thatch> serenao: yes, looks right. Now bounce the server.
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[06:41:21] <DrFrasierCrane> thatch, c. where can I learn about some new features in 0.11?
[06:42:00] <nick_fn> Is there a way to 'run code' from a report? For each row, I'd like to run a Python function (which would do another database query, and create some wiki markup)
[06:42:12] <nick_fn> I have Trac 0.10.3 at the moment
[06:42:36] <serenao> thatch: yes, it's working now. Thanks a lot!
[06:42:53] <thatch> DrFrasierCrane: The xml issues seem to only strike certain distros, I'd try it and if you hit a single crash then it's an issue. But I've never hit one on Debian/Ubuntu/Gentoo.
[06:43:11] <ezzer> OK, so I see it now. I show 2 more in Mylyn than in the web My Tickets.
[06:43:31] <DrFrasierCrane> thatch, thanks, I have Debian 3.1 sarge on this server so it hopefully won't be affected
[06:43:48] <thatch> DrFrasierCrane: http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.11 has some basic info on new features
[06:44:03] <DrFrasierCrane> thatch, thanks for the link
[06:44:36] <DrFrasierCrane> I think I'll try 0.11 dev
[06:45:19] <thatch> nick_fn: I can't say I've ever pondered that setup. You would basically end up rewriting part of the Trac reports module, which I guess you could do as a plugin
[06:45:26] <ezzer> Ah, it's gotta be that custom issue_status of "Waiting For Client" that's killing me.
[06:46:22] <nick_fn> thatch: I might end up doing that, then :-) The reason is that one of the columns I'd like back, is calculated by searching all the other tickets for a mention of this ticket
[06:47:04] <thatch> nick_fn: is that for ticket dependencies?
[06:47:11] <nick_fn> thatch: yep
[06:47:35] <nick_fn> thatch: I'm hacking/building on MasterTicketPlugin or similar
[06:48:04] <thatch> nick_fn: ok, I was just going to suggest that as a base
[06:48:26] <ezzer> nick, will that relate tickets to each other?
[06:48:35] <ezzer> Like sub-tickets?
[06:48:50] <nick_fn> thatch: Two parts are harder though: linkifying the "Blocks" field in the report (but the data is just a LEFT JOIN with ticket_custom, so that's ok), and finding the "blocked by" information, which is harder
[06:49:23] <nick_fn> ezzer: yeah, pretty much. "Can't do this ticket until that ticket is closed" and "this ticket is a requirement, and this list of tickets are the tasks"
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[06:50:39] <ezzer> That'd be cool. That's kinda what I just ran into. Someone used the custom issue_status "Enhancement Requested" for a ticket that says it's related to 2 other tickets. Then I wasn't seeing it in my query.
[06:51:49] <nick_fn> I could probably do the linkification of "blocks" via javascript, but once I can solve the "blocked by", then "blocks" can by linkified by the same method of executing custom code
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[06:52:08] <nick_fn> bbl - lunch
[06:52:34] <ezzer> Anyone seen that Coldfusion port of Trac Skweegee?
[06:52:44] <ezzer> Looks like it has potential.
[06:52:50] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5926]: Cleaner way of creating HTTPException subclasses. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5926> || Ticket #5879 (defect created): Error when adding new ticket <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5879>
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[06:54:06] <aat> interesting
[06:56:54] <thatch> aat: have you had a chance to play with wiki blames?
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[06:59:35] <cmlenz> anyone see a problem with moving the environment caching stuff form trac.web.main to trac.env?
[07:01:23] <cmlenz> http://dpaste.com/16908/
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[07:02:15] <cmlenz> the upgrade checking in particular should be useful outside of the web frontends
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[07:03:56] <thatch> cmlenz: I have no issues with the move
[07:05:57] <asmodai> cmlenz: module-wise it makes more sense to me (not being deep acquainted with the trac code)
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[07:07:21] <FreekNL> Hi all, what is the difference between a "version" and a "milestone" in trac - bit confused by the doc's..
[07:08:10] <aat> cmlenz: lgtm
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[07:08:50] <asmodai> aat: cba ttm?
[07:10:36] <aat> ;)
[07:10:43] <aat> morning eli
[07:10:50] <cmlenz> good, checked in
[07:11:15] <asmodai> oh noes
[07:11:18] <retracile> howdy, alec :)
[07:11:53] <thatch> FreekNL: A milestone is what you're pushing toward before a release. A version is something you'd file a bug against, after it's released.
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[07:13:24] <asmodai> FreekNL: Zie een milestone als een mijlpaal in je project. Een bepaald doel dat je wilt halen. Een version/versie is een versie die je (on)officieel hebt uitgebracht en waar opmerkingen/klachten over komen. vaak is een milestone een nieuwe release/version uitbrengen.
[07:13:37] <asmodai> [Pardon the Dutch]
[07:14:14] <FreekNL> lol
[07:15:13] <FreekNL> versies = tags ?
[07:15:15] <FreekNL> ongeveer..
[07:17:26] <thatch> FreekNL: yes, that's a good way of looking at it
[07:17:58] <FreekNL> thanks folks.
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[07:43:50] <retracile> thatch: how's the buildbot effort going? Any luck?
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[07:51:26] <Afrohealer> I;m trying to decide btw using Sqlite or PostGresql .. for my trac instal ..
[07:52:10] <Afrohealer> Is PgSQl overkill . if trac is the onlything i;m gonan be using it for?
[07:52:36] <FreekNL> Still Hi, how would you handle a case where you fixed a problem, tested it, but haven't yet documented it - in Trac ?
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[07:53:00] <FreekNL> would I need to abuse the "severity" for that or is there a more "clean" way of doing that?
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[07:55:03] <FreekNL> I mean, you can resolv the ticket, but in that case the ticket would no longer show up in most reports - whilst there still is something to do before you can actually resolve it.
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[07:57:09] <kshahnjd> anyone here install the trac web admin on ubuntu?
[07:57:13] <pacopablo> retracile: are you guys trying to setup a buildbot?
[07:57:40] <aat> TAGS!
[07:57:40] <pacopablo> Afrohealer: I'd always suggest PostgreSQL, but I'm biased
[07:57:46] <pacopablo> aat: yeah, TAGS!
[07:57:47] <aat> where's my kickback paco?
[07:57:55] <pacopablo> I'm installing 0.11 now to test it
[07:57:55] <aat> BLOG
[07:57:58] <aat> ooh :)
[07:58:37] <pacopablo> also setting up a buildbot vz for pybots
[07:58:39] <Afrohealer> pacpablo: I appreciate your honesty :) .. So care to share more of why you would say PgSql over sqllite?
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[07:59:15] <pacopablo> well, I like PostgreSQL more. It's a real RDBMS
[07:59:42] <thatch> retracile: not so good, it's hard to find time!
[07:59:53] <pacopablo> if you're familiar with PostgreSQL and its administration, then I'd say do PostgreSQL
[08:00:05] <pacopablo> if you want the lowest barrier to entry, go with sqlite
[08:00:07] <aat> pg is good
[08:00:25] <pacopablo> retracile: hopefully, I'll have a pybots system configured today
[08:00:35] <rblack> Hi all, does anyone have some suggestions on how to import a MoveableType blog into Trac. I'm using the tBlog 0.2.2dev
[08:00:44] <aat> is anybody aware of a way to associate metadata with setuptools entry points?
[08:00:44] <pacopablo> I'm planning on running trac through the hoops, should i grab the testing branch ?
[08:00:51] <retracile> pacopablo: Cool. You should have it run the unittest on the sandbox/testing tree
[08:01:10] <kshahnjd> anyone here install the trac web admin on ubuntu? ez install first step?
[08:01:18] <retracile> pacopablo: (read the TESTING-README in the top of the tree)
[08:01:26] <pacopablo> retracile: will do
[08:01:53] <pacopablo> rblack: well, I'm pretty sure that tBlog is very limited in comparison to MoveableType
[08:02:03] <retracile> pacopablo: For bonus points, setup buildbot to do a checkout of sandbox/testing, svnmerge.py merge, and /then/ run the unittests.
[08:02:05] <pacopablo> rblack: also, I am unaware of any import tools.
[08:02:53] <rblack> pacopablo: Thanks!
[08:02:53] <pacopablo> rblack: however, all blog posts are just wiki pages that are tagged accordingly, so you may be able to whip up a script.
[08:13:54] <milmazz> Hi, it's possible to "move" page in wikis? or copy the content and delete the original page is the only way?
[08:15:28] <slingintacos> ez question: in the trac.ini file, if you add a plugin, do you always have to put .* after the name of the plugin?
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