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<The_Tick> |
coderanger: http://trac.adiumx.com/milestone/zzzDuplicate%20tickets |
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<The_Tick> |
we need a master-child plugin, heh |
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<coderanger> |
The_Tick: MasterTickets exists ;-) |
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<The_Tick> |
hah wtf |
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<coderanger> |
you just need to be running 0.11 for it to not suck |
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<The_Tick> |
ya well |
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<The_Tick> |
we'll wait then |
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<The_Tick> |
dammit, can't get this plugin to load either |
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<coderanger> |
There is a 0.10 version, but its buggy as all getout |
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<The_Tick> |
we'll wait, heh |
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The_Tick starts a new trac with plugins all built in |
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<The_Tick> |
and buggy together :P |
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<The_Tick> |
for some reason batch modify isn't loading, nothing in the log, it's got the right perms, setup in trac.ini |
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<coderanger> |
Nothing as in you don't see it loading at all? |
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<The_Tick> |
indeed |
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<coderanger> |
How did you install it? |
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<The_Tick> |
python setup.py install |
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<The_Tick> |
it built, said it was complete and all that |
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<coderanger> |
This is on trac.a.c? |
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<The_Tick> |
yea |
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<The_Tick> |
lol |
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<The_Tick> |
didn't mean to jihad your time :) |
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<coderanger> |
Considering that all I'm doing at the moment is wiping out the world ... |
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<The_Tick> |
ahh |
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<The_Tick> |
playing onslaught? |
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<coderanger> |
civ4 |
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<The_Tick> |
I'm just waiting for bioshock |
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<The_Tick> |
tuesday and I'm dead to the world |
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<coderanger> |
Reasons you see nothing in the log, logging is off :) |
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<The_Tick> |
hah, omg |
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<The_Tick> |
I should not do this late at night |
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<coderanger> |
There we go, batchmod.web_ui loading |
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<coderanger> |
hrmm, curious |
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<coderanger> |
aha |
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<The_Tick> |
aha? |
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<coderanger> |
You had put the enable line in the [attachments] section |
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<The_Tick> |
ugh |
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<coderanger> |
All set |
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<The_Tick> |
wait.. |
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<The_Tick> |
hrmm, I don't think I did, maybe someone else went messing around |
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<The_Tick> |
oh well, thanks :) |
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<The_Tick> |
always good to have a second set of eyes on things |
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<coderanger> |
especially at 3AM |
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<The_Tick> |
indeed |
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<coderanger> |
Back to plotting the death of the arabian empire |
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<The_Tick> |
heh |
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<The_Tick> |
ever played dota? |
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<coderanger> |
nope |
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<The_Tick> |
played wc3? |
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<coderanger> |
I can only stand blizzard games in short doses |
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<The_Tick> |
aye, agreed |
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<The_Tick> |
however, this is a nice custom map |
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<The_Tick> |
hit google for dota allstars |
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<coderanger> |
I dislike the fact that clicks-per-second translates to success |
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<coderanger> |
though I do like that the factions are distinct and yet insanely balanced |
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<The_Tick> |
ya, this is interesting |
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<The_Tick> |
you play a hero |
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<The_Tick> |
and that's basically it |
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<The_Tick> |
you start bottom left and try to go top right, opponent goes top right to bottom left |
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<The_Tick> |
the way you win is not by clicks |
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<The_Tick> |
but by the choices you make in the short span of the game |
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<The_Tick> |
typically an hour |
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<coderanger> |
interesting |
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<The_Tick> |
it's a bunch of clicking, still wc3 |
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<The_Tick> |
but it's not totally about that |
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<The_Tick> |
revived the game for me for about 6 months |
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<Thanatermesis> |
its enscript.py a valid enscript tool ? a script to install Trac has put it on ./lib/python2.3/site-packages/trac/mimeview/enscript.py |
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<coderanger> |
That is the trac module to handle enscript for coloring .... |
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<Thanatermesis> |
ok, i install enscript then |
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<coderanger> |
enscript should only be used if you really have to |
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<coderanger> |
silvercity is generally faster |
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<Thanatermesis> |
but enscript supports a lot more of syntax, correct ? |
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<coderanger> |
Not really |
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<coderanger> |
Look at the syntaxcoloring page, it has an overview |
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<coderanger> |
The install guide mentions all this btw |
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<Thanatermesis> |
ok |
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<coderanger> |
Anyone know who ThunerRupert is? |
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<aat> |
nope |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5941]: Initial version for the fr_FR locale <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5941> || Changeset [5940]: Prepare the fr_FR locale <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5940> |
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<Thanatermesis> |
its the xml of RSS generated on the fly or saved in any file ? |
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<Thanatermesis> |
or any idea of how i can view the Trac from RSS since all the permissions is disabled for anonymous ? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5942]: i18n: Minor fixes for the fr_FR locale <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5942> |
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<retracile> |
Thanatermesis: you'll probably have to log in for the rss reader to be able to get the info. Alternatively, some RSS readers support authentication. |
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<Thanatermesis> |
im using netvibes.com and aparently no :/ |
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<Thanatermesis> |
everybody has the option "delete report" in View Tickets section, how i disable it ? i dont want that anybody delete those options of view tickets by accident |
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<thatch> |
Thanatermesis: are you sure 'everybody' has it? |
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<thatch> |
What version of Trac are you using? |
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<Thanatermesis> |
well, in the group developers yes, but i have disabled all REPORT_* permissions of that group (only REPORT_VIEW remains) |
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<Thanatermesis> |
last one, 0.10.4 |
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<[psy]> |
trac is REALLY cool |
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<[psy]> |
:D |
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<[psy]> |
just what i need |
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<Thanatermesis> |
[psy], yes, it is :) |
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<[psy]> |
Thanatermesis i just gave timeline_view permissions to anonymous for the rss feeder |
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<thatch> |
Thanatermesis: I don't see anything to that effect in the code... can you try shift-refreshing the page? |
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<Thanatermesis> |
[psy], i have tried that, and the RSS is show... but without things on it lol |
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<[psy]> |
oh |
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<[psy]> |
weird |
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<thatch> |
[psy]: yes that's a start, but without CHANGESET_VIEW it will be a rather boring rss feed |
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<[psy]> |
i'm using Supybot with the RSS plugin |
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<Thanatermesis> |
thatch, shift + F5 ? |
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<Thanatermesis> |
mmh, let me try changeset_view... |
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<thatch> |
Thanatermesis: yes, try shift+f5 (I don't know what browser you're using) |
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<thatch> |
also note that CHANGESET_VIEW is further restricted by authz, if in effect |
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<[psy]> |
ah thx for the info...i just added some more _VIEWs to anonymous :) |
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<Thanatermesis> |
what is icalendar ? |
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<thatch> |
Thanatermesis: it's an app for OSX and also a file format that specifies events (you can load it into Sunbird on various platforms, and perhaps Google Calendar) |
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<Thanatermesis> |
thatch, the "delete report" thing stills here |
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<thatch> |
Thanatermesis: what permissions does your logged-in user have? |
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<Thanatermesis> |
thatch, http://paste.debian.net/34956 |
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<Thanatermesis> |
the user is on the developer group |
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<Thanatermesis> |
mmh, maybe is the first line the problem ? |
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<thatch> |
Thanatermesis: still loading... I'm over GPRS |
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<Thanatermesis> |
hehe :) |
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<thatch> |
Thanatermesis: which one is your user? |
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<Thanatermesis> |
roxville (who is trying it) |
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<Thanatermesis> |
mmh, maybe roadmap_admin ? |
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<thatch> |
no, that shouldn't affect the report perms |
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<thatch> |
My first guess is still that it's a glitch due to a cached page... what web browser are you using? |
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<thatch> |
If it's IE, open Tools->Options and choose 'Delete Files' under the cache area, close all browsers, and reopen to try again |
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<Thanatermesis> |
ok, let me see from a new browser.. |
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<Thanatermesis> |
idk, i think that he's using firefox, but true, is a problem of cache, i don't have it here |
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<thatch> |
Thanatermesis: line 28 shows that all devs have TRAC_ADMIN |
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<thatch> |
can you try removing that and see if the button goes away? |
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<Thanatermesis> |
btw about the RSS, i only see the changeset's on my RSS reader (svn), any idea of how i can view the tickets and wiki's modifications too ? |
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<thatch> |
(I haven't used 0.10 for a while) |
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<Thanatermesis> |
thatch, no, it works here sorry, its a problem of cache :) |
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<thatch> |
Thanatermesis: TICKET_VIEW, WIKI_VIEW, etc affect the timeline showing items |
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<Thanatermesis> |
i have logged with roxville on a new webbrowser and i dont see the Delete Report button |
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<Thanatermesis> |
mmh, ok |
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<thatch> |
the timeline doesn't show item that the users wouldn't be able to view awnyway |
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<thatch> |
which sadly means that adding them to anonymous so they work in rss means that anyone will be able to see hte items themselves |
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<thatch> |
the better fix would be get your rss reader to support authentication |
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<thatch> |
(but Google Reader doesn't either, due to its caching mechanism) |
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<Thanatermesis> |
i use netvibes.com, and don't supports authentication too :/ |
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<cramm> |
Hi people, i'm trying to reply to a e-mail message a nw Trac user sent to a LUG mailing list. She is asking for "a plugin" to change the pages appeareance |
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<cramm> |
I don't use trac since a while back, should I tell her needs to customize the template and css, right? |
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<cramm> |
nm, just found the relevant section of the trac guide |
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<verm__> |
any trac developers arund? got a quick question before i file this ticket |
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<jpr_> |
looking for info on tracforge |
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<elb> |
session does not appear to be indexed by sid, but sids are unique in our table; would that help performance? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5895 (defect created): Timezone setting lacks daylight savings and offset timezones. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5895> |
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<rinky_rj_07> |
What would cause trac/mod_python not to use the stylesheets? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5895 (defect reopened): Timezone setting lacks daylight savings and offset timezones. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5895#comment:3> || Ticket #5895 (defect closed): Timezone setting lacks daylight savings and offset timezones. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5895#comment:2> |
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<devurandom> |
Hi! |
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<devurandom> |
Is there a Wiki plugin to generate me a "you are here: ..." bar on top of every page? Eg. I am viewing wiki/Potter/Book1/Chap2 and it generates "Harry Potter - Harry Potter and the sorcerers stone - Chapter 2"? Assuming the title of wiki/Potter is "Harry Potter" wik/Potter/Book1 is "H..P.. and ..." and so on. |
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<gbw> |
hello, i want to ask if it is possible to add new components in ticket directly from the browser? like roadmap, we can add new roadmap |
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<devurandom> |
2nd question: Can I transfer attachments from one site to another? |
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<devurandom> |
s/site/wiki page/ |
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<gbw> |
anyone? |
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<devurandom> |
gbw: You want to add new milestones from the browser? |
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<gbw> |
devurandom, i want to add new components from the browser |
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<gbw> |
components for tickets |
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<devurandom> |
Ah, sorry, no diea... |
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<devurandom> |
idea |
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<gbw> |
devurandom, i dont know if this is possible |
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<gbw> |
i cant find any rights for that in trac-admin permission |
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<dgynn_> |
gbw: you can add components with webadmin |
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<gbw> |
dgynn_, what is webadmin? |
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<dgynn_> |
it is a plugin at trac-hacks.org |
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<dgynn_> |
devurandom: for the you-are-here bar you could do something with the ShowPath macro from http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MacroBazaar |
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<dgynn_> |
it isn't possible to move attachments between pages |
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<devurandom> |
dgynn_: Can I hack that somehow? |
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<devurandom> |
Or attach files which I already have on the server? |
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<dgynn_> |
you could hack it by updating the database and moving the file in the attachments folder |
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<dgynn_> |
attachments are stored in your project's environment under attachments/wiki and then the page name |
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<dgynn_> |
the attachments table in the database keeps a record of what's attached |
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<devurandom> |
SELECT * FROM attachement; tells me there is no such table... (It's been a while since I last used SQL...) |
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<devurandom> |
Oups, forget that, typo... |
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<DrFrasierCrane> |
hey, I'm using 0.11-dev and I wonder if there's some place where I can monitor current changes that land on trunk so that I know when it's worth to update my installation to the latest revision, something like dev blog or mailing list with changes posted weekly would be cool |
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<DrFrasierCrane> |
does it exist? |
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<dgynn_> |
DrFrasierCrane: there are google groups for users and devs |
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<dgynn_> |
and you could subscribe to the RSS feed for trunk at trac.edgewall.org |
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<DrFrasierCrane> |
ok thanks I'll check it out |
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<coderanger> |
Also: here |
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<DrFrasierCrane> |
btw is it relatively safe to just update installation to the latest rev ? |
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<DrFrasierCrane> |
i know it's bleeding edge and everything can happen |
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<DrFrasierCrane> |
but in practice |
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<coderanger> |
Yes, trunk is generally stable for the most part |
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<coderanger> |
if a big feature branch was just merged, you might want to wait a week or so though |
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<coderanger> |
Also there is a testing branch being worked on |
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<coderanger> |
between those functional tests, and our unit test suite, you can test a good deal of it |
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<DrFrasierCrane> |
cool |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5895 (defect closed): Timezone setting lacks daylight savings and offset timezones. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5895#comment:4> |
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<devurandom> |
When is 0.11 to be expected? Are you currently short in devs? Or is it just temporarily? |
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<coderanger> |
@faq rsn |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger: "rsn" is Real Soon Now (tm) |
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<devurandom> |
So there is no specific reason for the "1 month late"? |
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<DrFrasierCrane> |
what's t.e.o? |
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<evil_twin> |
Somebody said t.e.o is hit by the same bot a few days ago, DrFrasierCrane |
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<DrFrasierCrane> |
hm |
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<verm__> |
wwtf someone closed it again |
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<verm__> |
they didn't even read what i said. |
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<verm__> |
is thurnerrupert in here? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5895 (defect reopened): Timezone setting lacks daylight savings and offset timezones. <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5895#comment:5> |
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<cmlenz> |
verm__: it might help if you provided an example of a datetime calculation that is wrong (and yeah, the ticket shouldn't have been closed) |
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<verm__> |
cmlenz: hmm i figured any would work but i suppose you're right in that not every region has daylight savings time |
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<cmlenz> |
the thing is you say "daylight savings calculation is still broken" but don't provide any specifics |
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<cmlenz> |
so anyone looking into the ticket will have to do the research |
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<verm__> |
yeah sorry you're right, i figured "oh just set any DST timezone and you'll see it's wrong" |
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<cmlenz> |
providing more concrete info goes a long way towards getting a ticket fixed |
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<verm__> |
but that's certainly not helpful for those that aren't aware of one off-hand |
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<verm__> |
yeah i know i wasn't thinking |
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<verm__> |
it's not like i didn't provide the rest of the information :) |
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<cmlenz> |
I'm just saying I wouldn't know where to start looking :) |
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<cmlenz> |
although it's probably obvious once the problem's staring you in the face |
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<nxsryan> |
hiiii |
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<verm__> |
doh someone m odified |
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<elb> |
coderanger: would making the sid field of the session table an index help matters, do you think? |
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<jpr_> |
coderanger: some questions on tracforge? |
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<coderanger> |
jpr_: mhmm? |
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<coderanger> |
verm__: I don't think anyone actually knows who he is. He sometimes just goes on these long ticket/wiki edit campaigns |
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<jpr_> |
sorry dropped of a bit |
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<jpr_> |
basically i'm curious about trying tracforge |
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<jpr_> |
i've read over the docs, i assume the repo content works against the 0.10 release of trac |
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<coderanger> |
Yes, and only that release |
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<jpr_> |
ok. |
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<jpr_> |
is there a short summary of the current state/direction. Is this headed for mainline support or still in a side project state |
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<coderanger> |
Define "mainline support" |
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<coderanger> |
We created the plugin architecture specifically to keep stuff like this out of core |
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<jpr_> |
guess I'm just meaning wrt to the pending trac 0.11 release |
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<jpr_> |
ok |
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<jpr_> |
that's fine |
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<coderanger> |
If core ever gets "multi-project support" it will be much simpler, probably just adding a project column on each table |
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<jpr_> |
my implementation will be based on 0.10, so i'm not going to hop to 0.11 the second it comes out. |
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<coderanger> |
As for if it will be ported to 0.11, yes, eventually. probably at the point that I actually need it |
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<jpr_> |
ok |
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<jpr_> |
wrt to the authn integration against sub projects...I'm assuming the default trac reliance on REMOTE_USER is unaffected by this. |
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<jpr_> |
this == tracforge plugin use. |
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<coderanger> |
Depends how you do things |
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<coderanger> |
tracforge echos trac's modular philosophy |
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<coderanger> |
The SSO module just slaves the client to whatever you are using for auth in the master |
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<coderanger> |
as long as it adheres to the same cookie protocol as the default login module (like AccountManager does) it will work fine |
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<jpr_> |
i currently use websso-like stuff (shib specifically) to set REMOTE_USER, so it could easily handle the auth on multiple paths |
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<coderanger> |
Then you can ignore the tracforge SSO stuff entirely |
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<jpr_> |
ok |
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<jpr_> |
is it possible to fit multiple standalone projects into a heirarchy after they have been set up? |
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<coderanger> |
I'm not sure what you mean |
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<coderanger> |
Ahh, yes |
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<jpr_> |
i've got several existing projects |
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<coderanger> |
In fact, you have to |
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<coderanger> |
The integrated creation system doesn't really work yet |
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<coderanger> |
As for the subscription stuff, I would shy away from it. It does work, but I'm not happy with how I did it |
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<jpr_> |
does that related to seeing all bugs from a single view? |
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<jpr_> |
that's the main problem I have right now. |
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<jpr_> |
the distinct wiki's work pretty well, also distinct SVN access in my standalong projects. I'm interesting in have centralized bug viewing and reporting though. |
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<coderanger> |
Yeah, that won't work all that well :P |
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<coderanger> |
I take it the projects already have tickets |
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<jpr_> |
yes. :) |
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<jpr_> |
not that they have to migrate flawlessly, i'm just looking to have a more integrated overview. |
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<coderanger> |
Yeah, there are no provisions for pushing existing tickets to the subscription system |
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<coderanger> |
You could make such a thing, I just haven't |
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<coderanger> |
Have you looked at the TraM query screen? |
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<jpr_> |
I've thought of just building an overview site that "integrates" them by just being able to branch to the sub projects more consistnetly. |
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<coderanger> |
It might be easier to modify that |
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<jpr_> |
nope on TraM query. |
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<jpr_> |
i'll check it out. |
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<jpr_> |
what's the biggest benefit of tracforge? configuration centralization? |
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<coderanger> |
SSO, centralized groups/perms, enhanced project index |
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<jpr_> |
the groups/perm are a good bonus. :) |
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<coderanger> |
Yeah, and you can certainly use both Tracforge and TraM together |
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<jpr_> |
what are your thoughts on the data integration? Is it best to just build this out of the RSS feeds and intelligent overview webpage construction? |
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<jpr_> |
i'm thinking of using some CMS tool (eg. stripped down drupal) and feeding data into it and using it as the main entry point. |
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<coderanger> |
RSS doesn't contain enough data as is, though you could use some supplemental extensions |
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<jpr_> |
is this a limitation of rss or trac's use of rss? It seems tools like wikimedia export a lot of data via rss. |
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<coderanger> |
My next iteration of this will probably work along those lines though, with some kind of dataflow abstraction so it can actually work for remote systems |
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<coderanger> |
of RSS |
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<coderanger> |
things like the author name can't be put in RSS |
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<jpr_> |
ah |
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<coderanger> |
dublin core and RDF have fields for it, but then its not pure RSS |
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