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August 23, 2007

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[00:13:34] <aat> i reckon we should start using: http://code.google.com/p/gvn/
[00:13:46] <aat> enforce code review on changesets
[00:14:06] <aat> maybe not *enforce* exactly
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[00:22:17] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5915 (defect created): add Attachment ERROR <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5915> || TracTickets edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTickets> || Ticket #5913 (enhancement closed): improvements to ticket navigation <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5913#comment:1> || Ticket #5914 (defect created): Trac detected an internal error: <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5914> || Ticket #5906 (defect closed): trac-admin initenv segfault - rev 5949 <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5906#comment:4>
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[00:40:17] <aat> ugh
[00:52:24] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5915 (defect closed): add Attachment ERROR <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5915#comment:1> || TracReports edited by cboos <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracReports>
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[01:10:16] <aat> wb cmlenz
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[01:17:00] <cmlenz> hey aat
[01:22:35] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5916 (defect created): Syntax error in trac.css <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5916>
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[02:13:07] * asmodai refines aat
[02:17:09] <aat> refines?!?!
[02:17:24] <aat> WOT
[02:17:35] <asmodai> Yes
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[02:17:40] <asmodai> Refines.
[02:18:42] <asmodai> aat: http://groups.google.com/group/cherrypy-users/browse_thread/thread/29e27ad98d25c9a check the last post
[02:20:19] <chx> how can i add an svn username and password for trac to use?
[02:21:24] <coderanger> You cannot
[02:21:34] <coderanger> Trac doesn't support remote repos
[02:22:22] <chx> the repo is local
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[02:23:08] <coderanger> chx: Then why would you need a password?
[02:23:16] <chx> then i probably ask the wrong question
[02:23:38] <coderanger> Always possible :)
[02:23:57] <chx> drats, nevermind
[02:24:05] <chx> i forgot to restart Apache :)
[02:25:53] <prologic> coderanger, ping
[02:26:00] <coderanger> pongish
[02:26:11] <prologic> hehe
[02:26:13] <prologic> bed time / :)
[02:27:50] <coderanger> trying anyway
[02:27:53] <coderanger> still packing
[02:28:30] <coderanger> I think mostly its just my fridge and computers left though, which I am dealing with tomorrow AM
[02:29:02] <coderanger> I saw your email, but I won't be able to look into it for a few days
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[02:33:19] <prologic> nps
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[02:39:06] <chx> sorry for another silly question, i am trying to install http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/contrib/trac-post-commit-hook (which looks very cool) and I get from trac.util.datefmt import utc ImportError: cannot import name utc
[02:39:22] <chx> i googled but have not found anything on this
[02:43:12] <coderanger> chx: You need to be running trac's trunk to use the commit-hook from trunk
[02:43:20] <chx> opsie.
[02:43:23] <coderanger> You want eh hook from whatever version you are using
[02:43:46] <chx> if I have trac-admin - The Trac Administration Console 0.10.4 then I use 0.10.4 ?
[02:43:51] * chx is a trac n00b.
[02:46:26] <chx> yay
[02:46:29] <chx> workss
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[02:57:12] <aat> heard that before
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[03:07:50] <asmodai> hahaha
[03:07:55] <asmodai> and 2 hours later he's still awake
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[03:08:01] <asmodai> :P
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[03:13:36] <cyril__> Hi
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[03:16:51] <cyril__> I'd like to know if it's possible to change the workflow of an existed project ?
[03:16:51] <cyril__> I 've tried something but it failed with the error "OperationalError: 6 values for 5 columns"
[03:16:51] <cyril__> Any idea ?
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[03:33:22] <orunge> Hallo-a.
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[03:40:47] <aat> cyril: try the various tools in ./contrib/workflow, it might be useful
[03:41:01] <aat> cyril: afaik it should work, so you may be configuring it incorrectly
[03:41:06] <cyril__> aa, I did it
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[03:44:01] <cyril__> aat: There is certainly something I not do, an upgrade operation for instance
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[03:47:17] <cyril__> I tried to switch to the opensource-workflow but the same error is raised.
[03:47:53] <aat> ok...i'd suggest talking to retracile when he arrives. he can probably help
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[03:48:36] <cyril__> OK aat, thx
[03:51:18] <cyril__> aat: it seems that burndown does'nt support the modification
[03:52:04] <cyril__> "build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/burndown/burndown.py", line 128, in ticket_changedFile "build/bdist.linux-i686/egg/burndown/burndown.py", line 330, in update_burndown_dataFile
[03:53:30] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5919 (defect created): Empty resolutions lead to AssertionError if logged in <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5919>
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[03:58:16] <asmodai> aat: retracile and helping in the morning? ;)
[04:03:09] <aat> good point
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[04:08:46] <aat> ugh
[04:10:41] <asmodai> ughn?
[04:11:37] <aat> applying the permission code to the attachment subsystem is like headbutting a wall
[04:12:17] <aat> instead of the templates receiving data filtered by the permission system i have to split it between the two
[04:12:27] <aat> two = templates and controller
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[04:23:35] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: WikiFormatting edited by anonymous <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiFormatting>
[04:28:03] <aat> eli isn't going to like this change, it will explode all his functional tests
[04:28:08] <aat> mwuahah
[04:29:03] <aat> woah
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[04:30:37] <andreask2> could I use 2 email-addresses for "smtp_always_cc"? How to seperate them? ";"? ","?
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[04:31:08] <andreask2> (talking about trac.ini)
[04:31:53] <erikand> andreask2: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracNotification
[04:32:20] <andreask2> Ah, sorry, thanks!
[04:32:23] <erikand> andreask2: in the example configuration:
[04:32:23] <erikand> smtp_always_cc = ticketmaster@example.com, theboss+myproj@example.com
[04:33:35] <andreask2> I've removed some test tickets I've created to test notification. Can I remove them from the milestones too?
[04:36:36] <asmodai> aat: headbutts and walls are fun :P
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[05:13:04] <henkpoley> Does someone here have experience with running Trac under the Litespeed webserver?
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[05:13:52] <henkpoley> I'd like to get login working with the aan url like example.com/login
[05:14:06] <henkpoley> currently it just asks credentials always
[05:14:14] <henkpoley> and /logout doesn't work..
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[05:20:16] <andreask2> How can I change the ticket description after the ticket has been created?
[05:22:30] * jan__ shouts at coling
[05:23:53] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5914 (defect closed): Trac detected an internal error: <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5914#comment:1> || Ticket #5920 (enhancement created): trac-admin should show the backtrace for internal errors <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5920>
[05:24:04] <thatch> andreask2: there's a permission for that
[05:24:21] <thatch> I think it's TICKET_ADMIN?
[05:25:04] <thatch> (and for removing tickets from milestones, as you asked earlier, try deleting them in trac-admin, would probably be easiest)
[05:27:07] <andreask2> thatch: I deleted the tickets using trac-admin, but after deleting there were "ghost tickets" in the milestons. But now they are gone, so everything is fine now...
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[05:32:30] <andreask2> thatch: I have the "TICKET_ADMIN" permission which should allow "...modification of the description field". But I can't find a link or button to edit the field.
[05:33:12] <andreask2> trac version is 0.10.3
[05:36:37] <andreask2> ah, was another user, TICKET_ADMIN worked, thanks thatch!
[05:48:12] <coling> hello jan__
[05:54:04] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5921 (defect created): Changeset display on "svn copy" has errors <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5921>
[05:56:24] <jan__> coling: can i pm you ?
[05:56:44] <coling> If you like jan__
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[06:11:28] <ekimus> hello, can i somehow create a new ticket with a specific component? i tried newticket?component=foo but that doesn't seem to work
[06:12:23] <Afrohealer> ekimus: u can create it directly from the trac web interface
[06:14:15] <ekimus> Afrohealer: i know but i want a certain component to be preselected. and this one is not the default.
[06:15:09] <ekimus> actually i'm trying to do http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTickets#PresetValuesforNewTickets but somehow it doesn't catch the parameter
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[06:15:41] <Afrohealer> you can do that in [ticket}] section of trac.ini default_component = "Name of default component"
[06:16:32] <ekimus> Afrohealer: that is not what i'm trying to do. I'm trying to provide a link that will choose a specific component
[06:16:46] <Afrohealer> OH my bad
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[06:22:50] <ekimus> second thing. any guide on how to have different versions of python running on the same host? or do i have to use seperate installations of python for that
[06:23:04] <ekimus> s/python/trac
[06:23:09] * ekimus hates typos...
[06:24:14] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5922 (defect created): Install TRAC in RH Enterprise Server 4 <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5922>
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[06:37:40] <erikand> hmm
[06:38:00] <erikand> If I need to hack trac, and still be able to upgrade to newer versions of trac
[06:38:04] <erikand> how can I do it?
[06:38:41] <erikand> I mean how can I store the changes in a way that makes sense
[06:38:58] <erikand> I was thinking that I could checkout trac-trunk
[06:39:14] <erikand> and keep a local copy of that in my own repository
[06:39:30] <erikand> and then create a branch where I make my changes in
[06:41:38] <ekimus> erikand: by using a plugin?
[06:41:48] <ekimus> or rather creating one
[06:44:04] <erikand> ok. I'l dig into that then
[06:44:05] <erikand> thanks
[06:45:48] <erikand> there is no way to copy a branch from one repository to another?
[06:47:25] <aat> erikand: you can checkout trunk and just maintain your patches against that
[06:47:51] <aat> if you want to be able to commit to your own offline copy you'll need to use something like svk, mercurial or bazaar
[06:48:43] <erikand> I think that's what I was thinkin I should do
[06:48:47] <aat> but if you can do the job by using the trac plugin architecture you'll be better off
[06:48:59] <erikand> plugins seemed like more work
[06:50:35] <erikand> thanks
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[06:54:26] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5922 (defect closed): Install TRAC in RH Enterprise Server 4 <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5922#comment:1>
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[06:55:21] * retracile mutters something indelicate about mornings.
[06:57:29] <aat> hehe
[06:57:32] * zenhase brightens retraciles morning with a pitch black coffee
[06:57:45] <aat> mmmmmmmmmmmm, caffeinated goodness
[06:58:11] <zenhase> if the weather is hot, i could also give you a ice-cold club-mate
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[07:01:43] * Afrohealer sez trac rawcks.. especialywhen yuor passwd fiel is nto currupt
[07:02:05] * retracile turns up his nose at zenhase's kind offer, and swigs more Mountain Dew. ;)
[07:03:01] <aat> retracile: http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5958
[07:03:23] <aat> agh. i didn't actually say what i was converting to
[07:03:24] <aat> cunning
[07:03:33] <retracile> Yes, I was about to ask. ;)
[07:04:26] <aat> "new permission system"
[07:04:34] <aat> fear not, all the unit tests pass :P
[07:04:43] <retracile> Eeexcellent. :)
[07:05:17] <retracile> Did you try running the functional tests? (would require doing a merge in a working copy)
[07:05:45] <aat> nope
[07:06:01] <aat> i suspect some of them will break
[07:07:40] <retracile> m'kay. I'll setup a test run in a sec.
[07:11:38] <retracile> Oh goody; conflicts on ticket & milestone templates. *sigh*
[07:12:12] <aat> you have modified versions of them?
[07:13:04] <retracile> twill only lets you refer to forms by 'name' or by number; so I had to add name attributes to all the forms I use.
[07:13:14] <retracile> ... they're trivial to fix though.
[07:13:20] <retracile> (the conflicts, I mean.)
[07:14:03] <aat> aah
[07:14:10] <aat> that's kind of annoying
[07:14:34] <retracile> 'tis.
[07:14:44] <retracile> ... tests are running.
[07:16:52] <retracile> Ran 714 tests in 86.016s
[07:16:54] <retracile> OK
[07:16:59] <retracile> :)
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[07:17:42] <aat> ooh!
[07:17:43] <aat> woot!
[07:17:50] <Voltaire> hi. how can i get trac to work with mysql?
[07:17:58] <retracile> poorly.
[07:18:19] * retracile is in an odd mood this morning
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[07:19:39] <Voltaire> lol
[07:20:37] <Voltaire> retracile: why so poor?
[07:21:14] <retracile> I haven't worked with mysql; so I'm not exactly an authority on it, but:
[07:21:49] <retracile> mysql has limits on the lengths of certain keys, and trac uses path names as keys in the database
[07:22:34] <retracile> with deep directory structure and/or long directory names, trac hits the mysql limit, and things break.
[07:23:06] <retracile> (mysql 5 /might/ work better; again, I'm not an authority on it.)
[07:24:06] <retracile> mysql?
[07:24:06] <evil_twin> Somebody said mysql is a broken piece of shit, retracile
[07:24:18] <retracile> hmm... wasn't what I was looking for, but...
[07:24:23] <retracile> @faq mysql
[07:24:23] <evil_twin> retracile: Error: No factoid matches that key.
[07:24:42] * retracile shrugs
[07:25:04] <retracile> Voltaire: a search on t.e.o may also be helpful.
[07:31:14] <aat> stupid flu!
[07:31:16] * aat curses
[07:32:15] <Afrohealer> do i jsut run setup.py to install a plugin .. after i;ve checkedout the files from track-hack?
[07:36:03] <aat> @faq plugins
[07:36:04] <evil_twin> aat: "plugins" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPlugins <-- How to install and activate Trac plugins
[07:36:24] <Afrohealer> evil_twin: thanks.. just did that ..
[07:36:25] <evil_twin> Wish I knew.
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[07:43:43] <Afrohealer> Do u guys recommend easy_install?
[07:44:05] <Afrohealer> Seems to work right on ubuntu .. but kinda flacky on winDoze
[07:44:48] <Afrohealer> evil_twin: i was saying i just used your help .. so thakns again ..
[07:44:49] <evil_twin> ... but i is expecting it to do so in the channel though ...
[07:46:25] <retracile> evil_twin?
[07:46:26] <evil_twin> evil_twin is dumb, retracile
[07:47:30] <Afrohealer> lol
[07:49:18] <Afrohealer> Can i use an Egg file built on Windoze on Linux?
[07:49:54] <flazz> is there a way to take a list of tickets and change them 'en mass' like making them all dups of another ticket?
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[07:51:23] <aat> not really
[07:51:33] <aat> barring sql-fu
[07:52:51] <flazz> aat: where do i start with sql-fu? is it a mysql?
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[08:10:16] * Afrohealer is loving trac!! whohaaaaaaaa
[08:25:01] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5921 (defect closed): Changeset display on "svn copy" has errors <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5921#comment:1>
[08:28:50] <pacopablo> morning vatos
[08:29:31] <pacopablo> flazz: sql-fu just means that you'll have to use SQL directly to perform your change
[08:29:42] <retracile> hey pacopablo
[08:32:10] * pacopablo has to figure out why his pybot slave isn't recognizign that he has twill installed
[08:33:31] <retracile> pacopablo: Oh, and you'll probably need to patch or update your twill to fix a file descriptor leak.
[08:33:41] <pacopablo> ahh, yummy
[08:33:47] <pacopablo> do you have a link to the patch?
[08:33:58] <retracile> Yeah, even better, the bug is actually in Popen. :)
[08:34:10] <retracile> The patch is in the root of sandbox/testing.
[08:34:29] <retracile> twill-latest also has the fix, but I was having problems with it yesterday.
[08:34:38] <pacopablo> cool, I'll look into it a little later
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[08:39:47] <ekimus> any recipe how to run different versions of trac in parallell (like 0.10 and 0.11)
[08:39:58] <pacopablo> yup
[08:40:27] <pacopablo> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracMultipleVersions
[08:40:40] <ekimus> damn to easy to search there :)
[08:40:41] <ekimus> thanks
[08:41:06] <pacopablo> it was written for 0.10, but the ideas are the same
[08:41:59] <pacopablo> the biggest thing with using 0.11, is you may have to create the site-packages directory in the --prefix path before it will work
[08:57:18] <ekimus> hmm in the svn repo is trac-0.10 newer than trac-0.10.1 or are minor numbers bugfixes?
[08:57:34] <ekimus> err, you know what i mean (hopefully)
[08:57:46] <pacopablo> minor numbers are bugfixes
[08:57:53] <pacopablo> so 0.10.4 is newer than 0.10
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[09:02:42] <retracile> Hm.... so twill-latest appears to be working on an OS/X system. Guess I'll have to try again locally.
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[09:08:32] * retracile mutters something in asmodai's general direction ;)
[09:08:36] <asmodai> \o/
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[09:21:46] <ekimus> hmm isn't PYTHONPATH colon delimited? according to the multi install guide there's no delimiter...
[09:22:08] <Afrohealer> is the TocMacro built into trac .11 ?
[09:23:15] <ekimus> Afrohealer: don't think so i'm using 5616 and it's not included....
[09:23:24] <pacopablo> ekimus: well, it is if you want to put more than one path on it
[09:23:25] <Afrohealer> k ..
[09:23:36] <pacopablo> the multi install guide simply puts one value on it
[09:23:59] <pacopablo> usually the PYTHONPATH variable is unset
[09:28:04] <aat> hey jonas
[09:29:59] <jborg> howdy
[09:33:56] <aat> i find it odd that pocoo.org doesn't host forums
[09:34:05] <pacopablo> hehe
[09:34:08] <aat> what's up with that?
[09:34:30] <aat> paco: ticket permissions was integrated into trunk today
[09:35:10] <ekimus> pacopablo: yeah saw that. i was thinking i have to add thecustom trac version and the "normal" python path afterwards. anyway this http://paste.debian.net/35307 is what happens. also when calling python with this path it cand find the packages and import trac;dir(trac) shows that the wrong version is imported :/
[09:35:34] <retracile> pacopablo: (and passed all functional tests, too. way to go aat :) )
[09:35:44] <aat> woot tests!
[09:36:18] <retracile> aat: it's also merged to sandbox/testing
[09:36:31] <aat> ah cool
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[09:37:20] <pacopablo> ekimus: did you set the PYTHONPATH before you launched the python interpreter?
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[09:38:08] <ekimus> pacopablo: yes PYTONPATH=.... python just like pasted only called python instead of trac-admin
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[09:38:54] <pacopablo> also, did you install 0.11 in the main site-packages dir? or in a different prefix?
[09:38:58] <pacopablo> looks like the main one
[09:39:14] <ekimus> pacopablo: 0.11 is main and is ok to be main, i need 0.10 to be the custom one :)
[09:39:16] <pacopablo> you'll need to install both 0.10 and 0.11 into separate prefixes
[09:39:45] <pacopablo> then in 0.10 you'll have to hack it a bit to remove the main site-packages dir sys.path
[09:40:04] <pacopablo> cus the PYTHONPATH only adds those paths to sys.path, it doesn't actually replace sys.path
[09:40:17] <ekimus> hu? so if any trac exists in the main pythonpath that is "bad"(tm) when using multiple version?
[09:40:21] <ekimus> versions*
[09:40:33] <pacopablo> well, with 0.11, yes
[09:40:47] <pacopablo> cus it looks for the highest version in the path and takes that
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[09:41:36] <ekimus> so 0.10 in the system site packages is ok, when 0.11 is an additional install but not the other way around. and to be safe _never_ ever add any $package you maybe want in different versions to the system python path?
[09:41:59] <ekimus> (use custom prefixes instead?)
[09:42:01] <Voltaire> how do you change the svn repository for a project and can it be a url?
[09:42:11] <ekimus> Voltaire: svn help switch
[09:42:24] <pacopablo> ekimus: yeah, the only other thing you might be able to do is install 0.11 with -m (multiversion)
[09:42:24] <Voltaire> in trac sorry :)
[09:42:26] <ekimus> Voltaire: and yes
[09:42:46] <pacopablo> Voltaire: no, it cna't be a url, must be a file system path
[09:42:53] <ekimus> ah :). in trac.ini change the path and no it can't be an url there's a ticket about trac with remote repos
[09:42:54] <Voltaire> crap.
[09:43:09] <ekimus> guess that's the ticket with the most subscribers
[09:43:14] <Voltaire> that means i just installed on the wrong machine :)
[09:43:45] <Voltaire> How can i change it to remove the use of svn totally?
[09:44:29] <ekimus> Voltaire: just let the svn setting in trac.ini be empty then there's no "browse source" link
[09:45:05] <ekimus> Voltaire: but a workaround is (if your svn is fsfs) to ro mount the repository then do "trac-admin /path/to/trac resync"
[09:46:35] <ekimus> hmm all tracs outside of the main site-packages. could that be a problem for apache or can I pass pythonpath somehow to it...
[09:47:26] <pacopablo> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython#SettingthePythonPath
[09:47:31] <ekimus> guess that would then be SetEnv
[09:47:59] <ekimus> guess not :)
[09:48:15] <pacopablo> well, depends what you're using
[09:48:27] <pacopablo> are you using mod_python, cgi, or fastcgi?
[09:49:17] <ekimus> modpython with apache2.2 - but actually that was more a rethorical question. I really need to stop to just type everything in my irc client that I think about all day....
[09:59:47] <aat> jborg: the attribute query syntax in pyndexter: title:(foo or bar)
[10:01:28] <jborg> ok, but what about title:foo or title:"foo bar" ?
[10:02:09] <aat> yep, that works as expected
[10:02:24] <jborg> ok, very nice.
[10:03:17] <aat> the right side can be any normal unary expression
[10:03:29] <aat> btw, i've been playing with hyperestraier recently
[10:04:05] <aat> it's probably your best bet. pure python interface to the http interface the daemon exports
[10:04:13] <aat> plus it comes with ubuntu dapper
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[11:08:15] <spike> hi
[11:08:57] <spike> I've been asked to develop a very simple CRM, which really isnt more than a frontend to a db with customer table and some mailing functions
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