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August 27, 2007

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[00:25:02] <erikand> good morning
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[02:46:29] <ekimus> hmm trac-0.11 can't be installed with --prefix to an arbitrary location. I know that all the components are in place cause r5617 is running without a problem but it's installed in site-packages and i need another version now (error is here: http://paste.debian.net/35499) any hints what to do? I'd like to avoid a whole python install for every single trac-version) 0.10.4 built fine and installed to the specified --prefix
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[03:15:20] <aat> evening
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[05:10:22] <coderanger> ekimus: Use workingenv
[05:12:57] <ekimus> coderanger: same as --prefix? install help doesn't list workingenv
[05:13:29] <coderanger> No, its a script to generate virtual python installs to do exactly what you want
[05:13:42] <coderanger> Your specific problem is you need to make the parent folders for --prefix
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[05:32:37] <basma> Hi all, I have added a user to trac, I cannot login with that user. I have setup a file users.htpasswd but I do not know if this is right or not
[05:35:04] <spike> basma: have you read the documentation about it? especially the tracApache page
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[05:35:27] <spike> there it describes all the necessary steps to setup an htaccess with trac and aapche, assuming that's ur webserver
[05:36:48] <basma> spike: thanks spike, I found the mistake, I was using htpasswd instead of htdiget to generate the password file :)
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[05:49:35] <spike> if I wanted to discuss trac/CRM plugin which ML should I post to? trac-users or trac-dev? I cant see any ML available on trac-hacks
[05:50:12] <spike> I'd like to understand if there's any interest at all in such thing and what ppl think about it, cant really decide if it's worth trying to go the trac way or if I should just write it in pylons
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[06:35:05] <cordney> hey guys, need you hlp..
[06:36:29] <cordney> trac is 0.10.2, spamfilter-plugin installed via easy_install (TracSpamFilter-0.2.1dev_r5943-py2.3), run env upgrade, but spamfilter_log table is not created.
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[06:48:25] <DrFrasierCrane> is Trac trying to somehow "autoupdate" itself?
[06:49:13] <aat> trac doesn't autoupdate itself
[06:49:23] <aat> hi eli
[06:49:47] <DrFrasierCrane> look at this:
[06:50:22] <DrFrasierCrane> http://pastebin.com/d7ef4b749
[06:50:41] <DrFrasierCrane> I know persmissions are not set correctly, but it was working just fine until yesterday
[06:50:50] <DrFrasierCrane> so why does it suddenly want to extract something
[06:51:35] <aat> new plugin installed is the most likely cause
[06:51:58] <aat> acct_mgr
[06:52:07] <aat> or it's the first time somebody has accessed that pat of it
[06:52:36] <DrFrasierCrane> no, I installed it last week and used it since then
[06:52:50] <aat> time to start debugging then
[06:53:12] <retracile> hey alec :)
[06:53:29] <aat> yoyo
[06:53:31] <aat> pat=part
[06:53:58] <cordney> any idea someone to create it by hand?
[06:58:03] <otaku42> question: trac.ini -> [trac] -> repository_dir can also point to a "subdirectory" (inside the repository, not the filesystem) of the referred repository, is that correct?
[06:58:29] <aat> correct
[06:59:25] <otaku42> means: if the repository is stored in the filesystem at /var/svn/bla and follows the proposed standard layout (tags/, branches/, trunk/...) repository_dir could be set to /var/svn/bla/trunk ?
[07:01:37] <aat> correct
[07:01:38] <aat> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracEnvironment#SourceCodeRepository
[07:02:14] <otaku42> aat: thanks for the hint, i was looking at wiki/TracIni only :)
[07:02:36] <cordney> nobody on the spamfilter?
[07:02:50] <otaku42> cordney: ?
[07:02:57] <cordney> y?
[07:03:13] <cordney> problem is: trac is 0.10.2, spamfilter-plugin installed via easy_install (TracSpamFilter-0.2.1dev_r5943-py2.3), run env upgrade, but spamfilter_log table is not created.
[07:03:43] <aat> otaku42: yeah. it's non-obvious
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[07:18:01] <spike> can you get a better link for reports? rather than the number I mean
[07:18:11] <spike> like /report/open or something
[07:18:24] <spike> I 'spose simply using the name of the report in the url rather than the number
[07:19:16] <spike> I havent tried to delete one but I'd guess the number would decrement and so if one had a link to it he'd get different stuff
[07:20:47] <coderanger_> No
[07:21:06] <coderanger_> It could be done in a plugin, but such a thing does not exist
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[08:38:23] <gwoo> coderanger: morning
[08:38:31] <coderanger> indeed it is
[08:38:39] <gwoo> hows it going?
[08:38:42] <gwoo> you get your wii setup
[08:38:46] <coderanger> Its been a long morning
[08:38:47] <coderanger> indeed
[08:44:33] <gwoo> sweeet
[08:44:36] <gwoo> i need to get one of those
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[09:15:09] <coderanger> gwoo: Okay, plugin done
[09:15:31] <pacopablo> morning
[09:16:23] <gwoo> coderanger: no way
[09:16:41] <gwoo> coderanger: thats awesome
[09:16:56] <coderanger> aat: Ping
[09:18:55] <lisppaste5> coderanger pasted "permredirect" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/46814
[09:19:18] <coderanger> Under no circumstance should you try to figure out how it works, just trust me :P
[09:21:25] <coderanger> aat: NewHack is b0rked and I can't see the trac logs anymore
[09:22:44] <pacopablo> coderanger: is that for 0.10?
[09:23:07] <coderanger> pacopablo: Yes, the evil is needed to work around the error you found
[09:23:10] <pacopablo> right
[09:23:12] <gwoo> coderanger: haha
[09:23:20] <gwoo> coderanger: where can i find it?
[09:23:36] <aat> pong
[09:23:51] <gwoo> do they have that for the Wii?
[09:24:01] <coderanger> gwoo: That paste
[09:24:08] <gwoo> coderanger: oh
[09:24:13] <coderanger> gwoo: Also, trac-hacks once alec fixes things ;-)
[09:24:17] <aat> what's wrong with it?
[09:24:28] <gwoo> coderanger: nice let me try this puppy out
[09:24:38] <coderanger> aat: Error: Macro NewHack(NewHackTemplate) failed
[09:24:38] <coderanger> 13Permission denied
[09:24:48] <aat> hmm
[09:24:58] <coderanger> aat: Did you change the paths when you moved to the new server?
[09:25:04] <aat> yep
[09:25:10] <aat> /srv/httpd/trac-hacks.org
[09:26:04] <coderanger> aat: I'm not in the trachacks group, so I can't see the real trace
[09:26:12] <aat> okay, try now
[09:26:24] <aat> op become trachacks
[09:26:31] <aat> ^^ do that
[09:26:36] <coderanger> create-hack: permission denied by op
[09:27:07] <gwoo> ok
[09:28:02] <aat> bummer. all this happened when i switched mod_wsgi to use dedicated uid's
[09:28:20] <aat> ok try again
[09:28:45] <coderanger> Looks like it went
[09:29:03] <aat> goodo
[09:30:43] <coderanger> gwoo: easy_install TracPermRedirect
[09:30:45] <coderanger> that will work now too
[09:31:05] <gwoo> saweeet
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[09:34:20] <aat> that is brutal
[09:34:24] <coderanger> hmm?
[09:34:24] <evil_twin> Rumor has it hmm is trac-hacks.org down, coderanger
[09:34:31] <coderanger> evil_twin: stop lying
[09:34:31] <evil_twin> No idea!
[09:34:46] <idnar> heh
[09:34:50] <aat> that code ;)
[09:35:20] <coderanger> aat: Ahh, not bad for 30 minutes of work :)
[09:35:28] <coderanger> I can much more evil given enough time
[09:35:31] <gwoo> coderanger: looking pretty good
[09:35:32] <coderanger> er, can be
[09:35:42] <gwoo> coderanger: i get a 500 on admin pages
[09:35:57] <coderanger> gwoo: When logged in?
[09:36:05] <gwoo> no
[09:36:16] <coderanger> okay, one sec
[09:36:52] <coderanger> Ahh, right
[09:36:56] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited by Johnieeeee@yahoo.com <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers>
[09:37:02] <coderanger> Can't fix that easily
[09:37:29] <coderanger> WebAdmin doesn't even think a page exists if you don't have perms for it
[09:37:34] <coderanger> lemme look at its code
[09:37:58] <gwoo> coderanger: ok no big deal
[09:38:32] <gwoo> the admin link is not really accessible anyway and no one else knows about it
[09:39:44] <coderanger> One sec
[09:46:40] <coderanger> okay, reinstall
[09:52:48] * coderanger ->oot
[09:54:14] <gwoo> coderanger: i can just run the same easy_install again , correct?
[09:54:19] <coderanger> Yes
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[09:57:45] <gwoo> sweet, i had to remove the old egg, but now its all good
[09:57:55] <gwoo> coderanger: its a wonderful plugin, thank you
[10:07:17] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5914 (defect closed): Trac detected an internal error: <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5914#comment:1> || Ticket #5920 (enhancement created): trac-admin should show the backtrace for internal errors <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5920>
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[10:28:13] <sontek> how well does trac work with mercurial or other distributed systems?
[10:28:21] <sontek> we are thinking about making the move from svn
[10:28:42] <pacopablo> sontek: there is a plugin for mercurial, which I believes works well
[10:28:57] <pacopablo> it's maintained by cboos, the dev that doe sthe most owrk with the version control system
[10:29:18] <pacopablo> there is also a plugin for bazaar, but I don't know how well it works
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[10:29:50] <sontek> Yeah, I've been reading and it sounds like mercurial is the best
[10:30:18] <pacopablo> there might also be one for darcs
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[10:37:31] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #5930 (defect closed): TypeError: from_string() takes exactly 3 non-keyword arguments (4 given) <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5930#comment:2> || Changeset [5971]: Fix for #5930 <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5971>
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[12:11:49] <retracile> r5962 appears to have broken 10 unittests...
[12:29:33] <cmlenz> :(
[12:30:19] <retracile> cmlenz: So I'm not pulling that rev into sandbox/testing for now.
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[13:08:13] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5959]: Testing: Merge through r5958 from trunk <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5959>
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[13:29:47] <mb__> hi is there documentation on setting up trac w/o apache.conf access? i am so close.. i don't mind running it in CGI mode
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[13:38:18] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [5976]: Testing: Do a basic test to create a new report. All tests PASS. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/5976>
[13:47:42] <spike> if trac-admin /path/to/projenv permission add bob REPORT_DELETE give the user bob that right, in which way trac-admin /path/to/projenv permission add developer TICKET_MODIFY creates a group?
[13:48:32] <spike> I dont see the distinction between groups and users, if not that you can do a trac-admin /path/to/projenv permission add bob developer
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[13:49:50] <spike> so maybe by the fact that you assign a user to another user the latter becomes a group... but uhm, it seems to me from a grammar/naming perspective that's far from intuitive imho
[13:50:48] <tonyxh> hi, anyone help for installation in Redhat
[13:50:52] <retracile> spike: user vs group is more a distinction in how you are using it, than in the code itself.
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[13:51:13] <retracile> tonyxh: what version of Redhat, and what version of trac?
[13:51:54] <tonyxh> REDHAT ENTERPRISE LINUX 4
[13:51:55] <spike> retracile: well, if you install something like account manager it's even less obvious since there's no "add group"
[13:52:07] <spike> but only add user and then in the permissions page you can add a user to a group
[13:52:32] <spike> but there's no intuitive way of adding a group, I cant really see how from an UI perspective this is any good
[13:53:15] <spike> plus, especially from account manager, you cant add a user without specifying the password obviously
[13:53:31] <spike> but a group has no password
[13:54:16] <retracile> Well, it /could/, but yeah, generally groups don't
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[13:58:44] <tonyxh> Need help for installation trac 0.10.4 in Redhat Enterprise Server 4
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[14:00:52] <coderanger_> tonyxh: Should be in up2date
[14:05:08] <misnomer> SubversionException: ('No such revision 1', 160006)
[14:05:17] <misnomer> i get that error when i try to create a new trac environment
[14:05:22] <misnomer> i'm pretty new at this...
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[14:19:17] <misnomer> ok..
[14:19:24] <misnomer> i upgraded trac and it works now
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[14:38:21] <spike> if I wanted to change the text showing in the newticket form, how would I go about doing it?
[14:38:35] <spike> I want to change "Full description (you may use WikiFormatting here):" to something else
[14:39:03] <pacopablo> you'll have to edit the template
[14:39:46] <spike> which is? I thought so and had a look in /usr/share/python-support/trac/trac/ticket but to no avail
[14:39:55] <spike> and I cant see any "templates" directory
[14:40:02] <pacopablo> what version?
[14:40:02] <evil_twin> It has been said that what version are you using before the upgrade, pacopablo
[14:40:13] <pacopablo> shutup evil_twin
[14:41:07] <spike> pacopablo: 0.10.3
[14:41:23] <pacopablo> two options
[14:41:29] <pacopablo> first: /usr/share/trac/templates
[14:42:34] <pacopablo> second: newticket.cs and ticket.cs in the templates direcotry of your trac environment
[14:43:17] <pacopablo> if you do the templates dir of the env, copy the template from /usr/share/trac/templates and then edit it.
[14:43:31] <pacopablo> the local templates directory will override the global configuration
[14:46:23] <spike> pacopablo: only "newticket" seems enough to me. there's no "WikiFormatting" message in ticket.cs
[14:46:52] <spike> I 'spose ticket incudes newticket, since on former you also have latter at the bottom
[14:46:59] <spike> or something like that
[14:47:11] <spike> arch, nevermind, it's there
[14:47:14] <spike> argh*
[14:47:24] <spike> wonders what grep did before...
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[14:53:31] <spike> ok, I've got aproblem with the SimpleTicket
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[14:54:06] <spike> I'm using trac to interface with customers so I've installed the SimpleTicket so they can create tickets without seeing the components|mileston|etc
[14:54:19] <spike> but creating a test ticket the owner is None
[14:54:31] <spike> which means you see the reports "my tickets" nothing show up
[14:54:34] <spike> shows*
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[14:57:17] <spike> oh, and installed PrivateTickets, so they cant see each other's tickets
[14:57:47] <spike> and granted them TICKET_VIEW_REPORTER, REPORT_VIEW, TICKET_CREATE_SIMPLE and TICKET_APPEND
[14:57:55] <spike> that should be all necessary, and seems so
[14:58:12] <spike> but the NONE owner is really an issue
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[15:01:15] <spike> why would the owner not be set?
[15:01:29] <spike> I dont see how private ticket would touch that area
[15:01:39] <coderanger_> The who in the what now
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[15:02:18] <spike> coderanger_: I've installed simpleticket and private tickets
[15:02:25] <coderanger_> mhmm
[15:02:32] <spike> when a user creates a ticket the owner is set to None
[15:02:36] <spike> rather than to the user
[15:02:49] <spike> TICKET_VIEW_REPORTER, REPORT_VIEW, TICKET_CREATE_SIMPLE and TICKET_APPEND are the granted permissions
[15:03:07] <spike> in fact they cant see each other's tickets, but viewing ther port My tickets they get nothing
[15:03:11] <spike> 'cause the owner isnt set
[15:03:14] <spike> and that's a big problem
[15:03:24] <spike> the tickets show up in Active tickets, tho
[15:05:00] <coderanger_> What version of Trac
[15:05:07] <spike> 0.10.3
[15:05:12] <coderanger_> Try 0.10.4
[15:05:26] <spike> I'm looking at the code but thinking about it, private ticket should simply filter tickets, not touch the creation one
[15:05:33] <coderanger_> Correct
[15:05:38] <spike> so I cant see it depending on that plugin
[15:05:44] <spike> hence it must be "Simple ticket"
[15:06:01] <spike> or maybe more permissions, altho I wonder which one
[15:06:05] <coderanger_> No
[15:06:19] <coderanger_> Do you have an owner set for all components
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[15:06:55] <spike> coderanger_: yes, "somebody" atm
[15:07:24] <spike> but component isnt displayed in the Simple Ticket so it stays blank (dunno if it matters, tho)
[15:07:38] <coderanger_> And is owner visible?
[15:08:22] <spike> no
[15:08:34] <spike> they dont get to set nothing, simply report whatever
[15:08:44] <spike> then ppl here decide what is what and belongs where
[15:08:52] <spike> sane way to process requests
[15:08:59] <coderanger_> And what is default_component set to
[15:09:05] <spike> none
[15:09:15] <coderanger_> Well there is your problem
[15:09:19] <coderanger_> You need to set that to something
[15:09:23] <spike> ah
[15:09:32] <coderanger_> Otherwise how would it do anything?
[15:09:39] <spike> and the owner will be the owner of the component? how's that any sane?
[15:09:50] <coderanger_> Yes
[15:10:07] <spike> plus with TRAC_ADMIN rights I can create tickets and get the owner set to me
[15:10:15] <spike> without selecting a components or the owner field
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[15:10:46] <coderanger_> SimpleTicket just hides the fields, it doesn't change the ticket system
[15:10:54] <coderanger_> Its as if you left the fields in question blank
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[15:11:37] <spike> wouldnt it make more sense to the user that create the ticket as owner?
[15:11:49] <spike> what's the point of owner otherwise? altho in that case it'd clash with reported
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