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June 07, 2008

[00:01:26] <macmaN6789> you cant order pages with components that well
[00:01:30] <macmaN6789> or at least adminster them
[00:01:49] <macmaN6789> basically i need many tickets properties
[00:02:00] <macmaN6789> otherwise there would be no difference between tickets and wikipages at all
[00:02:06] <macmaN6789> and i need those differences
[00:02:25] <coderanger> okay, making each email into its own ticket
[00:02:29] <coderanger> no updating the same one
[00:02:33] <macmaN6789> that is correct
[00:02:49] <macmaN6789> i basically need a unified view for business intelligence
[00:03:01] <macmaN6789> of email
[00:03:02] <macmaN6789> :)
[00:03:14] <macmaN6789> but version control obviously would be quite nice too
[00:03:19] <macmaN6789> yet, it might make more sense
[00:03:23] <macmaN6789> to simply open a new ticket for that
[00:03:25] <coderanger> sounds like email2trac will work well
[00:03:29] <macmaN6789> and refer to the discussion of the old one
[00:03:36] <macmaN6789> in the primary description
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[00:04:11] <macmaN6789> thanks for the thoughts tho, always clarifies further
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[02:17:58] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: 0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy?version=4> || 0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy?version=3> || 0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy?version=2> || 0.11/TracOnUbuntu edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntu?version=9> || Trac0.11OnUbuntuHardy edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/Trac0.11OnUbuntuHardy?version=6> || 0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy created <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy?version=1>
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[02:48:13] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: 0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy?version=5>
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[02:56:38] <soloturn> noah, you said "traccgi is incorrect" here: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntuHardy. but the referenced tracinstall also has cgi as first install option. should this be reordered so its clear what is the preferred way to install trac?
[02:57:05] <coderanger> soloturn: Yep, already done in the new install doc
[02:57:23] <soloturn> many thanks!
[02:57:44] <coderanger> CGI is pretty much always the wrong solution
[03:04:41] <soloturn> you mean here: http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/doc/install/index.rst ?
[03:04:56] <coderanger> yes
[03:05:00] <coderanger> well, cgi.rs
[03:05:05] <coderanger> cgi.rst
[03:05:20] <soloturn> because this does not list mod_wsgi, and cgi as first option. in cgi i saw the warning.
[03:06:26] <coderanger> yeah, still need to write a mod_wsgi guide
[03:06:35] <coderanger> and lots of other things
[03:06:41] <coderanger> that was one night of writing :P
[03:10:29] <soloturn> nqf, noah quick finger :)
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[03:18:23] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracInstallPlatforms edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstallPlatforms?version=54> || TracInstallPlatforms edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstallPlatforms?version=53> || 0.11/TracOnUbuntu edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntu?version=11> || 0.11/TracOnUbuntu edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntu?version=10>
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[03:48:34] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracInstallPlatforms edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstallPlatforms?version=55> || TracOnUbuntu edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnUbuntu?version=70> || 0.11/TracOnUbuntu edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntu?version=12>
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[04:18:49] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7301 (Not able to create query for trac task repository) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7301>
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[07:20:12] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7313 (Search engine does not evaluate macros) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7313> || Ticket #7312 (docs and cgi-bin don't get installed into {prefix}/share/trac/) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7312>
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[08:04:06] <aat> evening
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[08:20:34] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracOnSlackwareTwelvePointOne edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnSlackwareTwelvePointOne?version=4>
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[10:53:04] <mkelly32> so, i've been using trunk for a while, recently noticed that it's now 0.12dev instead of 0.11dev... am i going to be able to safely switch to the 0.11-stable branch and not lose my data?
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[12:07:39] <retracile> mkelly32: I think you can still switch without a problem. Tests and backups are recommended, of course.
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[12:10:26] <mkelly32> retracile: i've tried it now, and it seems to be happy enough
[12:10:40] <retracile> mkelly32: glad to hear it
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[12:21:46] <josh_k> can anyone tell me how I go about tweaking the defauly trac.ini file that is placed in a new environment when I run trac-admin /path/to/env initenv
[12:21:56] <josh_k> is there a skel file somewhere?
[12:21:57] <coderanger> You don't
[12:22:01] <josh_k> doh!
[12:22:08] <coderanger> but if you have common options, use --inherit
[12:22:14] <coderanger> (note: 0.11 only)
[12:22:17] <josh_k> right
[12:22:26] <josh_k> I was just looking to inherit the logo
[12:22:34] <coderanger> that works
[12:22:36] <josh_k> but the local conf (to a 404) overrides
[12:22:43] <coderanger> it does?
[12:22:45] <josh_k> yeah
[12:23:07] <coderanger> It shouldn't populate the local option if it is inherited
[12:23:23] <josh_k> the [header_logo] in the local ini file
[12:23:36] <josh_k> is declared before the [inherit] section
[12:23:43] <josh_k> where I have it pointing to my global.ini file
[12:23:55] <josh_k> but unless I comment out the stuff in [header_logo] it will put up the broken link
[12:24:03] <coderanger> yes, thats normal
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[12:24:09] <josh_k> right
[12:24:15] <josh_k> so since I can't change the default ini file
[12:24:16] <coderanger> but does it create the header_logo section if you use --inherit?
[12:24:38] <josh_k> where do I "use --inherit"?
[12:24:42] <coderanger> with initenv
[12:25:10] <coderanger> trac-admin /path/to/new/env initenv --inherit /path/to/global/trac.ini
[12:25:11] <josh_k> ah, I think I see the issue
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[12:25:30] <josh_k> if I tweak my global.ini after the fact
[12:25:41] <josh_k> e.g. by adding things
[12:25:46] <josh_k> if it wasn't there when initialized
[12:25:54] <coderanger> yeah, then you need to remove the corresponding options from the local envs
[12:25:56] <josh_k> then the local ini will still have those values
[12:25:58] <josh_k> got it
[12:26:00] <josh_k> makes sens
[12:26:01] <josh_k> sense
[12:26:02] <josh_k> thanks!
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[12:45:06] <bee52> hello :) I'm writing a component for trac and I'm wondering if there's any utility method to check if a string is a valid (syntacticly) email address (or should I continue using manually coded regexps?)
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[12:47:27] <coderanger> http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/notification.py#L29
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[12:48:02] <coderanger> Also be sure you use display email function if you display an email address in the UI
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[12:50:03] <bee52> thanks coderanger
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[12:55:30] <Cort> it fails on .museum domains, if I'm not mistaken :)
[12:56:09] <bee52> should I be using any special methods for data coming from HTML forms (rather than using self.args directly)? I'm currently filtering all input manually for sql injection attacks.. :(
[12:56:14] <Cort> and .travel
[12:56:15] <Cort> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_top-level_domain
[12:57:14] <coderanger> bee52: DB API automatically handles escaping
[12:57:25] <coderanger> and I assume you mean req.args
[12:57:36] <bee52> coderanger: python db api? (yes req.args sorry)
[12:57:43] <coderanger> yes, the database layer
[12:57:56] <bee52> coderanger: thanks, I didn't know that :)
[12:58:14] <coderanger> the cursor.execute(sql, (arg, arg)) thang
[12:59:10] <coderanger> almost never manually interpolate
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[13:03:23] <mkelly32> hi, i installed the spam filter plugina long time ago, but i've noticed that i don't have its logging table... and trac-admin upgrade refuses to run (says its' alrady up to date)
[13:03:31] <mkelly32> how can i get that log table created?
[13:04:45] <coderanger> what is the value of spamfilter_version in the system table
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