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June 08, 2008

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[01:07:52] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #6614 (Memory leak using apache) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6614#comment:100>
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[02:27:10] <digger168> hey all, i'm running tracd standalone behind nginx
[02:27:38] <digger168> can i have basic authentication on nginx pass the user credentials onto tracd somehow
[02:27:45] <digger168> so that the user won't have to log in twice?
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[03:04:24] <s0undt3ch> digger168: that's probably done on the nginx part, ie, pass vars to backend(tracd), trac itself, sees if there's a REMOTE_USER in environment, I think...
[03:05:55] <digger168> ok thanks for the tip, i'll keep digging
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[03:27:31] <s0undt3ch> digger168: perhaps let tracd do the basic authentication and tell nginx to pass the HTTP_AUTHORIZATION header?
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[03:29:22] <digger168> hmm, i really would prefer to have nginx do the basic auth as trac is just one of a few apps on the site, all of which need to be password protected
[03:30:03] <s0undt3ch> digger168: well, keep diggin' then ;)
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[03:39:32] <Inki> hi
[03:39:51] <Inki> with the [[Image]] macro, can I display an image attached to the wiki page?
[03:40:51] <Inki> uhh I think I didn't properly read the docs, let me try something
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[03:42:16] <Inki> oh yea [[Image(local_attachment_filename.jog)]] works
[03:42:21] <Inki> thanks everybody :-)
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[04:44:13] <aat> hi
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[05:38:59] <spark_> Hi folks!
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[05:39:55] <spark_> I've just copied a trac-project from one server to another; I'm guessing that might just work, but now logging in to trac is broken. I'm using a htdigest-file for authentication.. any ideas why this won't work?
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[05:42:50] <DevSolar> I want to edit the resolutions offered in the tracker. Is there an "official" way to do this, or do I do it by SQL? Any dependencies I should be aware of?
[05:49:35] <aat> spark: if you're using something like apache you need to configure authentication in the web server
[05:50:11] <DevSolar> Seems like SQL editing works fine. See ya!
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[05:50:39] <aat> devsolar: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracWorkflow
[05:50:48] <aat> ok
[05:51:12] <spark_> aat: nope, I'm using the standalone tracd..
[05:52:57] <spark_> aat: but I think I got it, I recreated the htdigest-file
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[06:40:16] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7314 (virtualbox.org -- error) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7314>
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[07:18:04] <spark_> argh, what kind of location does header_logo expect?! I've tried everything, but trac won't find the file :S
[07:21:27] <osimons> spark_: where do you want the logo? inside the project? if so the prefix is site/mylogo. trac has a common/ prefix for trac htdocs, and plugins can register for the chrome they provide. site then?
[07:21:49] <osimons> @wiki TracInterfaceCustomization
[07:21:50] <evil_twin> osimons: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInterfaceCustomization
[07:21:56] <osimons> spark_: ^^
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[07:22:48] <spy6> hi there
[07:23:21] <spy6> is there a way to set permissions for Repository Browser depending on user and directory?
[07:23:38] <spark_> osimons: riiight, site/ needed to be prepended
[07:23:46] <spark_> osimons: couldn't find that mentioned anywhere, ofcourse
[07:24:01] <osimons> spy6: yes - you can point trac to an svn authz file, and trac will parse and respect that
[07:24:10] <osimons> @wiki TracFineGrainedPermissions
[07:24:11] <evil_twin> osimons: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFineGrainedPermissions
[07:24:35] <osimons> spy6: ^^ (or a very similar name)
[07:24:53] <spy6> osimons: ah ...
[07:24:56] <spy6> lets see
[07:25:44] <spy6> osimons: where to secify the file(-location)?
[07:25:52] <osimons> spy6: right page - you want to read the mod_authz_svn-like permission policy section
[07:26:18] <osimons> spy6: trac.ini (as it says on the page - skip the authzpolicy stuff, its not for you)
[07:27:02] <spy6> lets see into trac.ini :)
[07:27:26] <spark_> osimons: thanks though :)
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[07:27:45] <osimons> spy6: just below where the heading says 'Trac Configuration' :-)
[07:27:56] <osimons> spark_: np
[07:30:39] <spy6> osimons: yeah .. that did the trick ..
[07:31:11] <spy6> sorry that i was stupid to not just look into the trac.ini ... the config setting is really intentional
[07:31:25] <spy6> many thanks
[07:31:51] <osimons> spy6: hehe. np.
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[07:36:22] <s0undt3ch> coderanger: arround?
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[07:40:27] <osimons> hiya s0undt3ch - good match last night? wasn't aired here at a decent hour, but reports in papers says your boys did well.
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[07:40:42] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7314 (virtualbox.org -- error) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7314#comment:1> || Ticket #7315 (Show links to none existing pages when ...) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7315>
[07:44:44] <Project2501a> question: is .htpasswd and ldap auth all the auth available? i was expecting something like a log-on screen
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[07:46:38] <osimons> Project2501a: you may well be looking for the AccountManagerPlugin at trac-hacks.org - take a look there.
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[07:50:33] <s0undt3ch> osimons connects correctly
[07:50:35] <s0undt3ch> :)
[07:50:56] <s0undt3ch> osimons: yeah, pretty good match, let's hope they keep up
[07:54:34] <Project2501a> osimons: thanks!
[08:00:34] <Project2501a> so, let's please pretend i'm an idiot
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[08:00:52] <Project2501a> i got my trac installed, i think
[08:01:11] <Project2501a> i made some easy alterations, ie, the project logo and site icon
[08:01:15] <Project2501a> now what?
[08:01:50] <Project2501a> i think i'll write "Trac: The definitive guide" and sell it to o'reilly :P
[08:03:11] <tockitj> Project2501a, did you install it on localhost or did you use some kind of hosting ?
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[08:08:36] <Project2501a> tockitj: my own box
[08:08:45] <Project2501a> brand spanking new. just got it a month ago
[08:08:58] <Project2501a> ibm x3650 fully loaded ^_^
[08:10:41] <Project2501a> localhost
[08:10:45] <Project2501a> it's in the basement
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[09:31:58] <coderanger> s0undt3ch: I am now
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[11:22:13] <doki_pen> we past B C for 6th
[11:28:54] <coderanger> ?
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[11:32:28] <Project2501a> WOOOT
[11:32:32] <Project2501a> basic auth works
[11:32:50] <Project2501a> now could somebody please explain to me what base_url does?
[11:33:28] <coderanger> it it used to generate URLs outside the context of a request
[11:33:46] <coderanger> like for ticket emails generated from a script
[11:33:50] <Project2501a> AH
[11:34:24] <Project2501a> so, it's a shell variable that python passes on to let scripts know that "if you wanna point a browser to somewhere, here's the base url, fill in the rest"
[11:34:44] <coderanger> No, its a config key
[11:34:48] <Project2501a> hm
[11:35:07] <Project2501a> hokay so, how would the script that generates ticket emails know about it?
[11:35:38] <coderanger> because to use the Trac API, you need to load the trac environment
[11:35:50] <Project2501a> ah.
[11:36:09] <Project2501a> still the wiki explaination needs well more explaining for us dumb folks :)
[11:36:23] <coderanger> tracs docs suck in general
[11:36:28] <Project2501a> hehe
[11:36:29] <coderanger> we're working on it
[11:36:51] <Project2501a> hey, as soon as i get my own project off the ground, i'll be glad to help
[11:37:09] <Project2501a> i'm keeping notes as to what's not clear enough
[11:37:30] <Project2501a> i'm trilingual, native tongue is greek, but i'm pretty damn good with english and spanish.
[11:39:41] <coderanger> Are you trying out the new trunk with l10n? ;-)
[11:39:51] <Project2501a> nope
[11:39:58] <Project2501a> just ye plain ol' english
[11:40:08] <Project2501a> but the project is gonna be multilingual
[11:40:19] <Project2501a> so, yeah, i'll check that out sometime.
[11:40:40] <Project2501a> hokay, help please.
[11:40:59] <Project2501a> got trac setup for multiple projects
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[11:43:00] <Project2501a> the moment enable <Location /projects > which is the base url for all my projects, i get this error: "no handler matched request to /yourfirsttracproject"
[11:43:47] <coderanger> pastebin the apache config
[11:43:50] <coderanger> @paste
[11:43:50] <evil_twin> coderanger: "paste" is http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac
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[11:50:27] <lisppaste5> project2501a pasted "apache conf, relevant bits" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/61940
[11:50:55] <Project2501a> the rest is just the stock debian lenin setup.
[11:51:13] <coderanger> why do you have a stanza for one project first?
[11:51:26] <Project2501a> erh? come again?
[11:51:36] <coderanger> <Location /projects/myfirstproject>
[11:52:29] <Project2501a> hm. what should it be? i like the idea of having a /projects directory. i'll customise the trac projects template, later.
[11:53:00] <Project2501a> i mean, i would like to have the /projects directory so i can point people to my projects.
[11:53:03] <coderanger> that should be gone
[11:53:10] <Project2501a> seriously?
[11:53:34] <coderanger> You already have a handler for /projects down below
[11:53:42] <Project2501a> can i fix it somehow?
[11:53:50] <coderanger> remove that stanza ...
[11:59:22] <Project2501a> Hey it works!
[11:59:23] <Project2501a> damn
[11:59:39] <Project2501a> i'm just oh, 14 years late in learning apache?
[11:59:41] <Project2501a> <3
[12:00:31] <Project2501a> thanks man!
[12:02:15] <coderanger> no prob
[12:08:52] <Project2501a> hokay, now how do i login in as the wiki admin?
[12:09:07] <Project2501a> so can enable the html registration/login?
[12:09:27] <coderanger> install AccountManager
[12:09:49] <Project2501a> I installed AccountManagerPlugin
[12:09:52] <Project2501a> using easy tools.
[12:10:16] <coderanger> okay
[12:10:23] <coderanger> did you enable it?
[12:10:39] <Project2501a> that part, i don't know how to do.
[12:10:56] <Project2501a> is it under [components] ?
[12:10:58] <coderanger> add this to the [components] section in trac.ini
[12:11:04] <coderanger> acct_mgr.* = enabled
[12:11:11] <coderanger> trac.web.auth.LoginModule = disabled
[12:11:33] <Project2501a> what does LoginModule = disable do ?
[12:12:06] <coderanger> turns off the default handler at /login so AccountManager's form-based one can take over
[12:12:11] <coderanger> Really I should fix that
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[12:13:46] <Project2501a> hokay. i'll be back with more questions as soon as do that.
[12:13:53] <Project2501a> the fixing of [components]
[12:14:16] <coderanger> be sure you sighup apache after making the change
[12:14:19] <coderanger> so it reloads
[12:14:32] <Project2501a> sure thing :)
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[12:25:43] <lisppaste5> projec2501a pasted "error while enabling web login" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/61941
[12:25:51] <Project2501a> ^-- yeah, i'm getting that error
[12:26:02] <coderanger> Add this to the <Location /projects>
[12:26:10] <coderanger> SetEnv PYTHON_EGG_CACHE /tmp
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[12:29:20] <Project2501a> hokay. back in business. the wiki works. but i still get the web browser popup instead of an html web page.
[12:29:52] <coderanger> did you remove the /login location from apache?
[12:30:30] <Project2501a> now, i did.t
[12:31:02] <Project2501a> YES
[12:31:13] <Project2501a> what kind of beer do you drink?
[12:31:18] <coderanger> none
[12:31:23] <Project2501a> damn :(
[12:31:30] <Project2501a> what can i do to thank you? :)
[12:31:40] <coderanger> Just spread the joy that is Trac :)
[12:31:50] <Project2501a> I'll work on the greek translation :P
[12:32:05] <coderanger> heh, asmodai is the one to talk to about translation stuffs
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[12:32:14] <Project2501a> will do :)
[12:33:09] <Project2501a> oops.
[12:33:19] <Project2501a> spoke too soon. tried to login and i'm getting this: AttributeError: Cannot find an implementation of the "IPasswordStore" interface named "". Please update the option account-manager.password_store in trac.ini.
[12:33:34] <coderanger> you need to configure accountmanager
[12:33:43] <coderanger> see the wiki page on it for the various options
[12:33:50] <Project2501a> hokay
[12:35:17] <coderanger> you probably just want the htpasswdstore option
[12:36:07] <Project2501a> reading.
[12:39:31] <Project2501a> can i store username && passwords in the trac database instead of the htpasswd?
[12:39:38] <coderanger> SessionStore
[12:42:22] <Project2501a> hokay, done that, too. now how do add a user, when the users are stored in the trac database?
[12:42:38] <Project2501a> trac-admin?
[12:42:46] <coderanger> webadmin
[12:47:39] <Project2501a> ook, added the webmin stuff
[12:47:58] <Project2501a> i'm apologise for taking so much of your time.
[12:48:27] <Project2501a> i'm reading the WebAdmin page, but it's not mentioning anything as to how i access the webmin interface...
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[12:49:16] <coderanger> hmm, I suppose you would need to use the migration script to at least set one password
[12:49:28] <coderanger> generally you only use SessionStore on huge sites
[12:49:35] <coderanger> why can't you use the htpasswd sotre?
[12:49:45] <Project2501a> i like the idea of the database better.
[12:50:35] <Project2501a> hokay, what's the name of the migration script?
[12:50:37] <lisppaste5> me pasted "mkflv" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/61946
[12:51:56] <coderanger> Why?
[12:52:34] <Project2501a> hm. sound a more "clean" solution.
[12:52:39] <Project2501a> sounds, even.
[12:52:47] <Project2501a> you know, everything in the database.
[12:52:51] <coderanger> eh, not really
[12:52:57] <coderanger> you can't use it will things like svn then
[12:53:01] <coderanger> at least not easily
[12:53:09] <Project2501a> hm
[12:53:10] <coderanger> (mod_auth_acctmgr is an option)
[12:53:28] <Project2501a> so, you think i should go back to .htpasswd ?
[12:55:07] <coderanger> unless you have a reason not to
[12:55:29] <coderanger> sessionstore exists because on very high volume sites, updating a single linear file can take a loooong time
[12:55:41] <coderanger> like if you have thousands of users
[12:56:55] <Project2501a> well, way i see it is that i'm just a simple(?) script execution from getting a user :)
[12:57:03] <Project2501a> but ok, i'll go back to htauth
[13:00:39] <Cort> any other reasons for not using SessionStore, coderanger?
[13:00:51] <Cort> in case you're not going to share the password 'database' file with other apps?
[13:00:53] <Project2501a> actually i do have a reason not to use httpauth and i just realisd it.
[13:01:18] <coderanger> its just a trac-specific thing, there are no standards for storing passwords in databases
[13:01:32] <Project2501a> i use dynamic dns for the external interface
[13:01:35] <coderanger> whereas the apache htpasswd and htdigest formats are understood by many things
[13:01:44] <coderanger> Project2501a: Why would that matter
[13:01:47] <Cort> I'm just surprised SessionStore seems to be so uncommon, while it looks like the most natural solution by far to me.
[13:02:04] <Project2501a> what Cort said.
[13:02:36] <coderanger> Cort: Why? passwords are entirely non-relational
[13:02:44] <coderanger> there is no need to keep them in a DB
[13:02:47] <coderanger> its mostly read-only
[13:03:00] <coderanger> so contention on updates isn't an issue
[13:03:46] <Cort> Hmm, agreed. But all the other solutions add an additional file to configure, backup, etc. I prefer having it in one place. But yeah, I understand your reasoning.
[13:04:03] <Project2501a> coderanger: well, dunno, really, when i try to access the machine externally, i address it as http://hachidan.hopto.org (port forwarding) and on the local network the hostname is "jibber". if i try to access http://hachidan.hopto.org from my machine, i get the interface of my dsl router.
[13:04:11] <Project2501a> i apologise for my lameness :(
[13:04:31] <coderanger> Project2501a: How is this related to htpasswd vs. session store
[13:04:46] <Project2501a> did i apologise for my lameness?
[13:04:56] <Project2501a> (it's not)
[13:05:03] <Project2501a> you're right.
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[13:08:31] <Project2501a> authentication_url = http://hostname/path <-- what do i use for that?
[13:09:28] <coderanger> thats part of the httpauthstore, ignore it
[13:09:42] <coderanger> its good for things like integrating with corporate authentication system
[13:09:56] <Project2501a> leave it as it is or delete that line?
[13:10:15] <Project2501a> i'll assume delete it.
[13:10:29] <coderanger> you can delete it, it isn't used anyway unless you activate that storage backend
[13:12:18] <Project2501a> thanks man
[13:12:25] <Project2501a> i appreciate your patience.
[13:12:48] <Project2501a> it looks like it works. i'm still an "installation haze" state-of-mind
[13:12:55] <Project2501a> i guess i'll learn as i go along.
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[14:51:57] <Project2501a> here's to the death of the music industry
[14:52:13] <coderanger> ?
[14:52:16] * Project2501a uploads 30GB of Nina Simone
[14:52:18] <Project2501a> FLAC :D
[14:52:22] <Project2501a> all her discography
[14:52:25] <Project2501a> ALL
[14:52:38] <Project2501a> <-- huge nina simone fan, god bless her soul.
[14:52:39] <coderanger> heh, I don't even know who that is
[14:53:22] <Project2501a> coderanger: Nina Simone was one of the most prolific jazz singers ever.
[14:53:33] <Project2501a> i'm sure you've heard at least "Sinnerman"
[14:53:40] <coderanger> Nope
[14:53:48] <coderanger> Project2501a: all before my time
[14:54:02] <Project2501a> damn.
[14:54:06] <Project2501a> <-- old fart.
[14:54:13] <coderanger> heh
[14:54:21] <coderanger> most people assume I'm much older than I am
[14:54:50] <Project2501a> it's teh internets
[14:54:53] <Project2501a> they are ageless
[14:55:38] <Project2501a> time for us proletariats to go to sleep cuz we gots to churn some code, and make some unix boxes work tommorow
[14:55:47] <Project2501a> thanks for all the help
[14:55:51] <Project2501a> see you tommorow
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[15:44:10] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUbuntuMultipleProjects edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUbuntuMultipleProjects?version=19>
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[15:48:18] <Petros_> Hi there.
[15:48:40] <coderanger> hello
[15:49:23] <Petros_> I do have some problems with trac 0.11. I tried to check everything (versions), and still gives me maximum recursion error when trying to view tickets