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<pacopablo> |
self-imposed feature creep |
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<darren_> |
Hi there. I'm after some assistance with getting Trac up and running with mod_python on Apache 2. The machine wide version of python is 2.3 which had trouble with the git plugin, so I have a local installation of python2.5 working out of /home/foo/local/ (which runs fine with the standalone tracd) however mod_python keeps looking at the central python installation. Does anyone know how to force it to load on the custom Python version? |
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<coderanger> |
darren_: Recompile mod_python |
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<darren_> |
ok, cool |
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<darren_> |
Will that affect the entire apache installation though? |
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<coderanger> |
yes |
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<darren_> |
is there a way to to localise it? |
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<coderanger> |
Nope |
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<coderanger> |
Not with mod_py anyway |
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<coderanger> |
you can use FCGI |
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<pacopablo> |
mod_wsgi will work too, no? |
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<coderanger> |
No, it also can't do mutliple versions |
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<darren_> |
okay then, I'll do some research on fcgi |
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<pacopablo> |
just trac installs in weird places |
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<coderanger> |
hmm? |
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<pacopablo> |
trac not in site-packages |
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<pacopablo> |
mod_python didn't like 0.11 installed anyplace olther than site-packages |
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<macmaN6789> |
excellent, genshi 0.5 installed like pohli |
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<coderanger> |
pacopablo: Sure it does |
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<coderanger> |
pacopablo: You just need to install unzipped, and add the path within the egg to sys.path |
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<darren_> |
coderanger: Would I be advised to use mod_fastcgi for apache did you say? |
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<coderanger> |
pacopablo: The problem is that .pth files are not processed for any random folder |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger: ahh, yeah, that was it |
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<pacopablo> |
coderanger: I used mod_wsgi instead, was easier at the time |
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<coderanger> |
darren_: most places don't carry that, only mod_fcgid |
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<darren_> |
coderanger: I have a dedicated server so I can install if necessary, which is best? |
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<coderanger> |
They are identical, mod_fastcgi has a really weird, non-FOSS license on it |
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<darren_> |
oh okay... |
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<darren_> |
so if I use mod_fcgid I will also be able to use ldap authentication, is that right? |
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<pacopablo> |
yeah, the two are not related |
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<darren_> |
oh okay, thought so. Its just that the standalone tracd didn't seem to have any way of making ldap work as it seems I would need to do that through apache... |
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<pacopablo> |
well, tracd can do it via account manager and one of the LDAP IPasswordStore providers |
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<coderanger> |
TracLDAPAuth |
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<darren_> |
Would it be faster and more stable to run it through the apache mod? |
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<coderanger> |
Makes no difference |
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<darren_> |
okay, so basically mod_python, mod_wsgi, mod_fcgid and standalone are all the same in terms of performance and stability? |
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<coderanger> |
yes |
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<pacopablo> |
well, mod_* might get better performance under load |
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<pacopablo> |
but mainly due to being able to spawn a couple processes |
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<coderanger> |
Eh, the DB will be the bottleneck first |
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<coderanger> |
standalone is worse than the others for serving static files, but all are pretty bad compared to just plain apache |
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<darren_> |
cool |
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<coderanger> |
though its fine until you start pushing a ton of requests |
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<darren_> |
well it will only be used by a small team of developers etc so it should be fine I suspect |
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<coderanger> |
yep |
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<darren_> |
thanks so much for your help guys :-) |
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<darren_> |
really appreciate it... |
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<macmaN6789> |
hmmm |
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<macmaN6789> |
tocmacro works fine with 0.11? |
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<macmaN6789> |
ok looks like must be upgraded as well |
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<macmaN6789> |
which means my changes need to be looked at |
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<macmaN6789> |
grr |
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<[domon]> |
hi Ankle |
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<[domon]> |
o.o |
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<darren_> |
Hi, I've installed mod_fcgid in my Apache installation... but I can't find any documentation on what I need to include in my httpd.conf to get it running? |
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<darren_> |
It seems to reference a file called trac.fcgi which I cannot find anywhere in my Trac installation? |
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<coderanger> |
darren_: https://coderanger.net/~coderanger/tracdoc/install/index.html |
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<coderanger> |
read that |
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<asmodai> |
coderanger: \o/ |
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<macmaN6789> |
what exactly was the usefulness of macropostplugin |
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<macmaN6789> |
why did i install it? |
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<macmaN6789> |
i remember something needed it |
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<macmaN6789> |
im also using some nav* plugins.. they are ok with 0.11 or not? |
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<macmaN6789> |
tags dont show 0.11 |
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<macmaN6789> |
for navhider for example |
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<coderanger> |
macmaN6789: Tags works fine, nav* does not work |
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<macmaN6789> |
Removing TracTocMacro 1.0 from easy-install.pth file |
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<macmaN6789> |
Adding TracTocMacro 11.0.0.3 to easy-install.pth file |
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<macmaN6789> |
lol |
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<macmaN6789> |
gotta love the version bump |
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<macmaN6789> |
+10 versions ftw |
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<redondos> |
hello. on trac 0.11 with restrict_owner enabled, when I create a new ticket it is automatically assigned to a user despite the combobox is left empty |
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<redondos> |
what is controlling this behavior? |
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<redondos> |
I have no default_owner or anything like that |
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<coderanger> |
redondos: It goes to the owner of the selected component |
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<redondos> |
I see, thank you. |
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<redondos> |
if the component has no owner, then it won't be assigned, right? |
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<coderanger> |
unsure |
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<redondos> |
k |
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<macmaN6789> |
coderanger: |
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<macmaN6789> |
tracxmlrpc and 0.11? |
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<coderanger> |
macmaN6789: You know, you could just check trac-hacks |
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<macmaN6789> |
well |
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<coderanger> |
plugins that work with 0,11 with generally either have a 0.11 branch and/or be tagged 0.11 |
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<macmaN6789> |
y / n could be an efficient knowledge based communication method |
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<macmaN6789> |
if you say "n" |
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<macmaN6789> |
i know not to waste time trying to get it to work |
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<macmaN6789> |
i guess dn could be dunno |
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<redondos> |
what is the correct syntax to reference a file on the wiki so that a link is created? I can't find this in the user guide |
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<redondos> |
a file in the repository, it being subversion in this case |
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<macmaN6789> |
im thinking there should be a check-all checkbox in the plugin manager |
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<macmaN6789> |
clicking 12 checks seems kinda silly in the year 2008 |
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<coderanger> |
redondos: source: |
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<coderanger> |
macmaN6789: You could just edit the file, in which case it is easy |
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<coderanger> |
macmaN6789: And re: looking things up, you could also not waste my time having to read your questions and respond when the information is trivially available |
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<redondos> |
thanks, coderanger |
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<macmaN6789> |
coderanger: yep i agree |
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<macmaN6789> |
i am quite aware that making you ignore me diminishes my returns |
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<macmaN6789> |
so pardon me while i try to find the best balance |
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<macmaN6789> |
of growth and efficiency |
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<macmaN6789> |
can i ask you what month you are born in |
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<coderanger> |
July |
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<redondos> |
oh, no. an astrologyst. |
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<macmaN6789> |
fuck astrology |
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<macmaN6789> |
coderanger just proved theres no connection of any sort |
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<macmaN6789> |
no pattern |
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<macmaN6789> |
:P |
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<coderanger> |
redondos: Maybe he wants to get me a birthday present :-) |
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<macmaN6789> |
fuck yeah |
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<macmaN6789> |
whats your amazon wish list url |
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<macmaN6789> |
without your work on trac |
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<macmaN6789> |
i dont have my masters right now |
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<macmaN6789> |
and huge ideas based on it |
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<redondos> |
night coderanger |
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<macmaN6789> |
im serious about the amazon wish list |
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<macmaN6789> |
ive been on irc for 15 years |
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<macmaN6789> |
people like you are hard to find |
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<macmaN6789> |
so let me know when you wake up |
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<redondos> |
macmaN6789: http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=UTF8&type=wishlist&id=3VOEZC0ZH5QBR |
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<macmaN6789> |
hehe |
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<macmaN6789> |
well i wont get him anything before he says its ok |
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<macmaN6789> |
getting another guy a gift without his approval is really trying the gayness borders imho |
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<macmaN6789> |
:) |
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<redondos> |
not that there's anything wrong with it :) |
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<macmaN6789> |
well |
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<macmaN6789> |
gayness is evolutionarily not sustainable |
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<redondos> |
why? |
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<macmaN6789> |
you just wont have kids now will you |
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<macmaN6789> |
unless you buttfuck ahnuld |
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<Lynoure> |
macmaN6789: I think kindness should not be thought of as that feminine trait... |
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<redondos> |
a couple of months ago the first baby gestated inside a male was born |
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<macmaN6789> |
Lynoure: kindness is offering |
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<macmaN6789> |
not pushing without signs of acceptance |
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<macmaN6789> |
thats gay |
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<macmaN6789> |
redondos: wth? url? |
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<Lynoure> |
macmaN6789: IMO gifts don't require an advance approval, but I guess cultures vary |
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<macmaN6789> |
depends on the circumstance, youre right |
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<macmaN6789> |
i guess not even thinking about it completely valid option |
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<macmaN6789> |
which wont do harm |
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<Lynoure> |
Now if I could only figure out why PageToPdf plugin gives me 0 size .pdfs... |
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<macmaN6789> |
and perhaps could even be better |
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<macmaN6789> |
i worked with pageto* |
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<macmaN6789> |
they suck |
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<macmaN6789> |
i basically coded a whole bunch of media screen, print |
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<macmaN6789> |
CSS |
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<macmaN6789> |
and then found www.princexml.com |
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<macmaN6789> |
you basically can get almost book quality PDF with a single command |
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<macmaN6789> |
with some CSS3 early extensions |
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<Lynoure> |
macmaN6789: alas, I need it integrated to trac (or they'll make me install them a separate wiki) |
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<redondos> |
I think I saw it on slashdot, but now you're making me doubt, because I can't find it |
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<macmaN6789> |
im sure you do |
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<macmaN6789> |
princexml can be put on servered |
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<macmaN6789> |
but youd have to buy it |
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<macmaN6789> |
its free for personal use |
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<macmaN6789> |
but i must say... it does its job and does it really well |
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<macmaN6789> |
so i guess it depends on your ROI possibilities |
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<macmaN6789> |
the server ver is not cheap |
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<macmaN6789> |
3800 usd i think |
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<Lynoure> |
No way they'll pay that, so I'll keep on trying to figure out why this happens |
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<macmaN6789> |
free is good |
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<macmaN6789> |
but princexml has done your job and done it really well |
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<macmaN6789> |
you might want to consider contacting the author |
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<macmaN6789> |
and see if you can work something out |
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<macmaN6789> |
perhaps he can opensource a subset of functionality |
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<macmaN6789> |
just for trac |
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<macmaN6789> |
i might even consider doing the contact myself a lil later |
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<macmaN6789> |
tad busy right now |
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<macmaN6789> |
he answered on the forum in about half a day |
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<macmaN6789> |
last i wrote |
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<thm> |
Hi! is there a way to allow people to delete their own wiki attachments ? |
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<macmaN6789> |
thm: surely there must be, thats basic func |
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<macmaN6789> |
probably simple permission issue |
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<Lynoure> |
So, PageToPdf generates these 0 byte files for other people too? It's common? |
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<macmaN6789> |
0 byte file means something didnt launch the way it was supposed |
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<macmaN6789> |
to |
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<macmaN6789> |
you have to dig into the processing chain |
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<Lynoure> |
I figured that, just asking around to see if it is "known to be impossible" or worth doing, or total unknown. |
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<macmaN6789> |
well as a matter of fact |
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<macmaN6789> |
now that i remember |
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<macmaN6789> |
it did work for me |
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<macmaN6789> |
im pretty sure you dont have your dependencies right some how |
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<macmaN6789> |
but the formatting could not do enough |
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<macmaN6789> |
i needed a fully formatted thesis PDF |
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<macmaN6789> |
and i got it |
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<Lynoure> |
That's good. Thanks :) |
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<macmaN6789> |
keep me up to date on your progress |
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<thm> |
macmaN6789: there should be, yeah, but is there really? |
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<macmaN6789> |
i might be able to chip in |
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<macmaN6789> |
thm: how exactly does your problem manifest |
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<macmaN6789> |
theres no delete button? |
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<macmaN6789> |
or smth? |
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<thm> |
right |
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<Lynoure> |
Works to sufficient degree now :) |
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<macmaN6789> |
thm: i gotta finish something, i can check a lil later |
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<velappanv> |
hi i have a error when running trac through cgi |
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<velappanv> |
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/www/cgi-bin' |
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<velappanv> |
i this error |
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<macmaN6789> |
make sure your cgi-bin permissions are right |
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<macmaN6789> |
755 |
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<macmaN6789> |
owner:group |
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<macmaN6789> |
also |
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<macmaN6789> |
and then make sure your scripts are right |
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<macmaN6789> |
755 |
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<macmaN6789> |
which.. i guess are the same thing |
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<velappanv> |
ok |
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<velappanv> |
i changed its giving same error |
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<macmaN6789> |
check apache logs |
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<macmaN6789> |
error_log |
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<macmaN6789> |
usually close error messages there |
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<darren_> |
hi guys. i'm trying to get trac running on Apache 2 with mod_fcgid... i've copied trac.fgi into my cgi-bin and i've setup a rule in my httpd.conf to point to ScriptAlias /trac /home/****/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi/ and when I visit the URI I get a 500 error with Premature end of script headers: trac.fcgi |
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<darren_> |
any idea what im doing wrong? |
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<darren_> |
i obviously need to set the location of the trac env somewhere, but i'm not sure how? |
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<darren_> |
anyone got any idea on a trac setup using mod_fcgid? |
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<unlink> |
does the WikiRenamePlugin work with latest trunk? |
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<asteroid> |
hi |
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<asteroid> |
I'm not able to find cgi-bin in my package (trac-11.0rc2, the last). I made the package myself. Is there something I must have, more that what is written in http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall ? |
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<asteroid> |
http://pastebin.com/m36b07449 this is the contain of my trac package |
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<asteroid> |
in others world : why I haven't got trac.fcgi ? |
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<thm> |
asteroid: the trac-admin deploy command creates one |
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<asteroid> |
thm, deploy option appear was in 10.x serie ? |
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<asteroid> |
s/appear// |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: marycruz@google[1].txt attached to TracSupport <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/wiki/TracSupport/marycruz%40google%5B1%5D.txt> |
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<orkam_wrk> |
hi |
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<asteroid> |
trac-admin deploy does not work thm : trac-admin deploy /usr/share/trac |
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<asteroid> |
*** Unknown syntax: /usr/share/trac same if I use interactive mode. Of coures I'm root. And it does the same with the default value |
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<jhammel> |
asteroid: its always trac-admin <environment> <command> |
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<asteroid> |
<env> ... thx jhammel |
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<asteroid> |
of course, now it works |
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<orkam_wrk> |
We are using Trac as a lightweight PM Software, not for Software development. We'd like to add priorities to Milestones. Now I have found that tickets can easily be customized in the [ticket-custom] section in the trac.ini. Is there something similar with milestones? If yes, are there any docs online (I have not found anything searching). |
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<orkam_wrk> |
If no: Can this (adding priorities to milestones) be done with built-in options, or would it be neccesary to modify the sourccode? |
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<unlink> |
is there any way to cause the text in wiki articles to wrap, or to have multiple columns, in order to make it easier to read? |
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<orkam_wrk> |
unlink, to get multiple columns maybe you could use tables? |
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<unlink> |
that's not exactly what i'm looking for |
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<unlink> |
well, if the feature doesn't exist, i suppose i can resize my browser window |
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<orkam_wrk> |
Yea, it's a workaround, not a solution ;) |
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<orkam_wrk> |
Maybe you could use {{{ Preformated text }}} |
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<jhammel> |
unlink: not sure, as I'm not CSS expert, but maybe this (or something similar) can be done via CSS? ::shrug:: |
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<unlink> |
i'm not a CSS expert either |
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<unlink> |
*sg |
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<unlink> |
my CSS expert just quit |
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<unlink> |
gr, i hate technical documentation which is written like a speech |
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<unlink> |
is there any support for limiting who can access what ticket? |
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<jhammel> |
unlink: sorta; see http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/sample-plugins/permissions/vulnerability_tickets.py |
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<unlink> |
thank you |
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<jhammel> |
unlink: its really more a starting point to modify rather than an OOTB solution in most cases, but it works and is a good jumping off point |
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<unlink> |
nod |
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<unlink> |
$USER is available in reports -- is it available in the wiki in any capacity? |
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<unlink> |
in particular, what i'd like to do is [http://internal-site/u/$USER/ some page] |
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<unlink> |
it would be interesting to see a graphviz graph of wiki articles |
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<nergalix> |
is it possible to have a selection box of all "authenticated" users in the "assign to:" field of the "new ticket" page? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: 0.11/TracOnUbuntu edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntu?version=13> |
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<Lynoure> |
hello, unfortunately I have another silly problem. I have docutils installed, but on the wiki WikiRestructuredText#BiggerReSTExample does not work (the other parts seem to), but shows the source twice |
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<Lynoure> |
The version of trac I have is 0.11dev-r7213 |
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<orkam_wrk> |
Hmmm, If I can not add a priority to milestones without changing the code, is there a possibility to sort milestones manually (instead of duedate / alphabetical) ? |
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<anselmolsm> |
Hi guys! Is there any way to put the "available projects" list inside a trac wiki page ? |
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<doki_pen> |
anselmolsm: I don't know if a macro exists, but it would be easy to make one |
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<doki_pen> |
jdolan_!! |
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<jdolan_> |
8-) |
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<jdolan_> |
i'm about to blog about oforge. |
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<jdolan_> |
brace yourself. |
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<doki_pen> |
nice |
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<jdolan_> |
i haven't been in this channel in years. i used to idle here. |
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<doki_pen> |
anselmolsm: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MacroBazaar#ListTracProjects |
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<Lynoure> |
Seems I also have problems with some other RST stuff, hmm. |
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<anselmolsm> |
doki_pen, great! |
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<anselmolsm> |
doki_pen, thanks |
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<doki_pen> |
anselmolsm: np |
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<Lynoure> |
I've tried googling for this but I don't seem to get anything relevant. |
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<Lynoure> |
Nothing in apache error.log either on why rst would not work |
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