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New news from t.e.o: TracTicketTriage edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTicketTriage?version=52> || TracOnWindows edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnWindows?version=247> |
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<SKOM> |
hi all |
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<SKOM> |
I am new in this comunity and I have some problem with trac (resp. trac-admin). |
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<SKOM> |
It shows me ImportError: No module named scripts.admin when i am trying to run trac-admin |
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<asmodai> |
jborg: hey Jonas :) |
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<jborg> |
hey asmodai |
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<aat> |
lo |
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<aat> |
all |
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<asmodai> |
Heya aat |
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<asmodai> |
Sup man? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: MultipleRepositorySupport edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MultipleRepositorySupport?version=13> |
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<aat> |
not a lot |
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<aat> |
working |
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<aat> |
you? |
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<osimons> |
hi all |
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<asmodai> |
aat: Sort of working. |
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asmodai has been hard pressed lately to find the energy to focus on the stuff at work :S |
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<asmodai> |
osimons: btw |
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<asmodai> |
osimons: I got that wiki_diff.html worked out |
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<asmodai> |
<py:choose test=""> |
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<asmodai> |
<py:when test="new_version - old_version > 1"><input type="submit" name="delete_version" value="${_('Delete version %(old_version)d to version %(version)d', old_version=(old_version + 1), version=new_version)}" /></py:when> |
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<osimons> |
nice one, asmodai |
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<asmodai> |
<py:otherwise test=""><input type="submit" name="delete_version" value="${_('Delete version %(version)d', version=new_version)}" /></py:otherwise> |
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<asmodai> |
</py:choose> |
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<asmodai> |
results in: |
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<asmodai> |
+msgid "Delete version %(old_version)d to version %(version)d" |
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<asmodai> |
+msgid "Delete version %(version)d" |
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<osimons> |
how much time did we spend in total then to make one useful message string for translation? say i fiddled with the string, catalog updates, compiling and checking diff, new (wrong) silly fuzzy match checking +++ for approx. 4 hours. and you? :-) |
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<asmodai> |
osimons: I finished this yesterday already |
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<cmlenz> |
osimons: what do you mean with new (wrong) silly fuzzy match checking? |
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<osimons> |
asmodai: good for you - i'm finished yesterday as well by doing svn revert :-) |
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<asmodai> |
pffft |
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<asmodai> |
Pussy |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: when it spots a translation for 'open' |
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<asmodai> |
it will apply that for 'reopen' as well |
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<cmlenz> |
if reopen doesn't have a translation, sure |
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<osimons> |
cmlenz: problem is that when i change 1 string (actually tried to fix approx 5), and extract, update and recompile pot and nb_NO po file, i get a 2500 line diff file to review... at various places in there it will also change existing strings... |
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<osimons> |
your => or |
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<asmodai> |
osimons: even when msgstr is filled in? |
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<cmlenz> |
osimons: are you on babel 0.9.2? |
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<osimons> |
but, it also grabbed existing translations and redid them |
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<osimons> |
uh. trunk? |
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<cmlenz> |
you sure? |
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<cmlenz> |
there was a bug like that in 0.9.1 that was fixed in 0.9.2 |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: mmm, true. |
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<cmlenz> |
and if you see that the next time, please save a copy of the POT/PO that was causing the problem and file a ticket :P |
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<osimons> |
print babel.__version__ => 1.0dev-r364 |
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<asmodai> |
that's old :P |
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<asmodai> |
we're at 401 now ;) |
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<cmlenz> |
but that should have that fix |
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<andrei2102> |
orkam_wrk: hi |
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<andrei2102> |
orkam_wrk: i received your email |
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<orkam_wrk> |
Hi andrei2102 |
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<andrei2102> |
orkam_wrk: i didn't understood exactly |
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<andrei2102> |
orkam_wrk: do you have the character errors or not |
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<osimons> |
cmlenz, asmodai - sorry. using setup.py develop. svn info says i'm on 401. |
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<osimons> |
(ie. i don't redo the egg info all that often) |
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<andrei2102> |
orkam_wrk: i intentionally removed the log messages |
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<orkam_wrk> |
I see, you are currently working on it... I have installed the plugin - without errors. Now, calling the macro does NOT put out any errors anymore (no char errors either) but- I don't get any output in the wiki either , just a blank page |
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<cmlenz> |
osimons: anyway, please do the ticket thing next time, these errors really need to get fixed :) |
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<andrei2102> |
orkam_wrk: i understand |
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<orkam_wrk> |
Oh, I see. Consequently there's no output in trac.log |
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<cmlenz> |
personally I've not seen babel shuffle things around unexpectedly since 0.9.2 |
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<andrei2102> |
orkam_wrk: try [[TicketCountQuery(status=!closed, groupby=milestone, name=Tickets Submitted Today)]] |
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<osimons> |
cmlenz: just being quite unfamiliar with it, and remember there being talk of having a very specific tool/version/config chain to replicate the results in trac svn (ie. identical to whatver asmodai has) - not the same, not the same result, can't be used, and i can't fix and test strings. so i gave up. |
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<orkam_wrk> |
Ok, that brings up the old 'ordinal not in range' error again :( |
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<osimons> |
- not to mention that reviewing the 2500 line diff very nearly gave me the fits... |
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<cmlenz> |
osimons: most of those were line number changes, no? |
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<cmlenz> |
and yeah it's a PITA |
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<cmlenz> |
heh, babel should come with a line-number ignoring diff tool :D |
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<andrei2102> |
orkam_wrk: try [[TicketCountQuery(status=!closed, groupby=priority, name=Tickets Submitted Today)]] |
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<cmlenz> |
or a --dry-run mode on update_catalog, which would simply print which messages would be affected and how |
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<cmlenz> |
asmodai: why don't we standardize on 0.9.2 for trac? |
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<osimons> |
cmlenz: yeah, mostly line changes. it is a pain. i want to see what it does to my strings. that option sounds useful. |
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<orkam_wrk> |
andrei2102, the last statement raises the same error, unfortunately |
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<andrei2102> |
orkam_wrk: :( i don't know here to encode the values not to have this error |
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<orkam_wrk> |
Here's the tracelog: http://rafb.net/p/4IIKpm36.html But: I can't read out ouf that anything either, 'cause there are no plugin related errors... |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: Ah, we can now |
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<orkam_wrk> |
The error disappers without the groupby statement. I guess that's because i get no output then |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: btw |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: Babel': ['Babel>=0.9.2'], |
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<asmodai> |
cmlenz: Already is |
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<cmlenz> |
osimons: http://babel.edgewall.org/ticket/118 :) |
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<andrei2102> |
if you don't put the groupby then it has nothing to display |
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<osimons> |
cmlenz: done yet? :-) |
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<cmlenz> |
oh I thought you'd like to take on this one ;) |
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<fragalot> |
I have a complaint on Trac... it's too user friendly. too good, and thus it makes my lil' future project look bad. |
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<fragalot> |
:p |
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<asmodai> |
osimons: hahaha |
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<asmodai> |
fragalot: muhaha |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: TracInstall edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall?version=249> |
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<AboSamoor> |
i installed Account Manager plugin , i created users but non of them can login ? |
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<AboSamoor> |
i am using tracd |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: SandBox:Sidebar edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SandBox%3ASidebar?version=2> |
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<kjs> |
hum I have a centos box running trac, I need to restore a db from another box, any ideas? |
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<AboSamoor> |
I'm using tracd, i generated passwords using trac-digest.py everything works fine, but when i use Account manager plugin to create users it failed to make their login successful ? |
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<AboSamoor> |
can anyone help me ? |
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<basneder> |
SiteWikiDefaultPlugin fails to work on a new initenv, should it work automatic, or do i give some command? |
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<basneder> |
i do have it enabled in the global trac ini (i think, /usr/share/trac/conf/trac.ini) |
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<fragalot> |
err |
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<fragalot> |
does anyone else have the problem that if you click "uninstall plugin", that Trac generates an internal error? IOError: zipimport: can not open file /trac/MBCWS/plugins/SvnAuthzAdminPlugin-0.1-py2.4.egg |
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<fragalot> |
ok, I broke it |
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<fragalot> |
xD |
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<fragalot> |
ZipImportError: bad local file header in /trac/MBCWS/plugins/SvnAuthzAdminPlugin-0.1-py2.4.egg |
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<fragalot> |
yay fixed |
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<AboSamoor> |
I can not recieve the email to verify my account ?!!! |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: SeaChange/WhatUsersWant edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SeaChange/WhatUsersWant?version=24> |
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<asmodai> |
aat: Is that voting on SeaChange still useful now that we have the voting plugin on t.e.o.? |
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<kjs> |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/23070/ any ideas? |
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<kjs> |
I am "trying" to import an exported svn / trac db into a new install of trac on a different box. |
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<kjs> |
fixed it. |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7257]: Add [milestone:0.10.5] related information to the ChangeLog (related to ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7257> || ChangeLog edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/ChangeLog?version=43> || ChangeLog edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/ChangeLog?version=42> |
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<kjs> |
how do i run trac at boot |
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<kjs> |
running trac for say 15 users the stand alone daemon should be fine? |
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<s0undt3ch> |
aat: your athomas on t.h.o? |
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<s0undt3ch> |
aat: shouldn't http://trac-hacks.org/browser/voteplugin/0.11/tracvote/htdocs/js/tracvote.js#L1 be like jQuery(document).ready(function($) { |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7258]: Improve the Changeset view by not showing the "Location:" information when ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7258> || TracDev/PluginDevelopment edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/PluginDevelopment?version=26> || TracDev edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev?version=13> || TracDev edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev?version=12> || TracDev/DatabaseSchema edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/DatabaseSchema?version=8> |
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<andrei21021> |
orkam_wrk: i just sent you an email |
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<andrei21021> |
orkam_wrk: if you can no install the plugin from the svn and look in the logs for the output |
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<andrei21021> |
orkam_wrk: i described in the email a way to figure out what's wrong |
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<orkam_wrk> |
ok, just read it |
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<orkam_wrk> |
I'll see if i can manage to have a try this evening, if not we'll have to wait 'till monday. I'll send you an eMail when done |
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<orkam_wrk> |
Thanks a lof for taking care about that problem! |
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<andrei21021> |
it's not fixed yet |
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<orkam_wrk> |
Yea, but there's debug output now :) |
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<andrei21021> |
i hope that we nail this bug |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7259]: 0.12dev: merged [7257-7258] from 0.11-stable via svnmerge <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7259> |
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<AboSamoor> |
how can i make the new tickets sent to their owners ? |
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<gregory> |
Hi, I have trac installed with postgres as abackend. Now I created a new postgres account to access the same trac database and I can connect to it using psql. But when I change the database value in trac.ini I get an Internal Server error from apache. The error log says PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend: OperationalError: ERROR: permission denied for relation system\n. Restarting apache does not seem to help, any ideas? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7260]: MultipleRepositorySupport branch synced with trunk [7040:7259/trunk] <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7260> || Ticket #7382 (Detect timezone from browser) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7382> |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: MultipleRepositorySupport edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MultipleRepositorySupport?version=12> |
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<kardan> |
i installed trac and have a simple question: where is the source code administration? |
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<coderanger_> |
the what? |
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<kardan> |
i thought there is a possibility to upload code files in trac. isnt it? |
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<coderanger_> |
Nope |
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<coderanger_> |
Trac cannot write to subversion at all |
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<kardan> |
ok, so I espected something different. how does subversion work? i got an access to subversion changes, but how do I upload my files? |
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<coderanger_> |
@svnbook |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger_: "svnbook" is http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/index.html <-- The Subversion book |
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<coderanger_> |
Please read the Subversion book |
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<kardan> |
great thanks |
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<omry|work> |
hi. installing trac 0.11 into apache, and I get this gem of an error : The following error occurred while trying to extract file(s) to the Python egg\ncache:\n\n [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/www/.python-eggs' |
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<omry|work> |
(into the apcahe log) |
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<coderanger_> |
Is Genshi installed as a zipped egg? |
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<omry|work> |
coderanger, not sure it's even installed at all. I may have missed it |
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<coderanger_> |
check that |
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<omry|work> |
I do see gnashi in the stack trace |
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<omry|work> |
coderanger, File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Genshi-0.5-py2.5-linux-i686.egg/genshi/__init__.py", line 28, in <module> |
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<omry|work> |
looks like it is an egg |
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<coderanger_> |
but is it zipped |
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<coderanger_> |
file /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Genshi-0.5-py2.5-linux-i686.egg |
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<omry|work> |
coderanger, and the solution? |
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<coderanger_> |
omry|work: What did that command show? |
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<omry|work> |
coderanger, zip |
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<omry|work> |
(missed your question) |
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<coderanger_> |
omry|work: reinstall it using the --always-unzip flag |
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<coderanger_> |
(remove the egg first) |
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<omry|work> |
coderanger, I used the easy_install method |
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<omry|work> |
from http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall |
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<omry|work> |
it's incorrect? |
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<coderanger_> |
Not everyone seems to have this problem |
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<omry|work> |
if it helps, it's a clean installation on a debian/lenny |
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<coderanger_> |
omry|work: Does it work after reinstalling? |
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<omry|work> |
coderanger, yup |
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<omry|work> |
removed the egg, reinstalled with that flag and it works now |
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<to_> |
hi |
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<to_> |
I'd like to install the changelog plugin http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/ChangeLogPlugin for trac v0.10.4, how can I install it, I don't find the 0.10.x branche in the repository to easy_install it ... |
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<to_> |
http://trac-hacks.org/svn/changelogplugin/ |
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<omry|work> |
with 0.11, is the tracadmin module built in? |
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<omry|work> |
I mean, the web administration inteface |
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<omry|work> |
interface |
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<retracile> |
omry|work: yes |
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<omry|work> |
retracile, I tried to access /admin, and I got "No administration panels available" |
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<coderanger_> |
Do you have TRAC_ADMIN |
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<omry|work> |
coderanger, you mean my user? I think not. |
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<omry|work> |
how do I set it? |
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<omry|work> |
I am using htpasswd authentication, if it matters |
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<coderanger_> |
@wiki TracPermissions |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger_: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions |
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<to_> |
trac-admin permission add <user> TRAC_ADMIN |
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<omry|work> |
to_, thanks. just figured itout. |
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<to_> |
do you know if changelogplugin is available for 0.10.x ? |
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<coderanger_> |
It is |
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<fluxdude> |
does anyone know if it's possible to add a macro to trac to automatically insert the name of the user who last modified the page into the page itself? |
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<fluxdude> |
need this with tracd... |
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<fluxdude> |
the standard macros that you drop in to the proj env seem to execute under unix shell so I'm not sure how that would know the user in trac that was calling it at page editing time |
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<fluxdude> |
is this even possible in Trac? |
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<to_> |
coderanger: is there a special way to install it ? I only know the method easy_install http://url.org/browser/<package> ... |
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<coderanger_> |
@wiki TracPlugins |
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<evil_twin> |
coderanger_: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPlugins |
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<coderanger_> |
fluxdude: wikinfo plugin |
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<to_> |
coderanger: but when I download the archive, there is only a 0.9 and 0.11 folder, not a 0.10 |
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<coderanger_> |
to_: the 0.9 version should work fine |
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<to_> |
coderanger_: ok, than you |
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<to_> |
k |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: SeaChange/WhatUsersWant edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SeaChange/WhatUsersWant?version=26> || SeaChange/WhatUsersWant edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SeaChange/WhatUsersWant?version=25> |
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<fluxdude> |
coderanger_: thanks that did the trick |
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<pacopablo> |
morning vatos |
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<doki_pen> |
buenos dia |
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<doki_pen> |
buenas? |
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<doki_pen> |
I'm illiterate |
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<doki_pen> |
buenos dias |
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<pacopablo> |
so, if anyone has a macbook, you have to check out: iAlertU |
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<pacopablo> |
it's on sf.net |
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<coderanger_> |
pacopablo: most annoying program ever |
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<omry|work> |
how do I get web user registration with 0.11? |
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<coderanger_> |
pacopablo: Someone at work once left it on, and someone walked by and bumped the desk ... |
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<pacopablo> |
it's great! ;) |
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<pacopablo> |
hehe |
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<coderanger_> |
omry|work: accountmanager, same as with 0.10 |
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<omry|work> |
coderanger, thanks. |
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<pacopablo> |
omry|work: but make sure you use the trunk version of account manager |
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<doki_pen> |
iAlertU.. lol |
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<doki_pen> |
that could really annoy co-workers |
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<omry|work> |
pacopablo, if I installed via easy_install, I`m on trunk? |
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<pacopablo> |
omry|work: don't know, what version do you have? |
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<omry|work> |
bah, a version that gives me [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/www/.python-eggs' |
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<doki_pen> |
whawt are you using? |
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<doki_pen> |
mod_python, fcgi, mod_wsgi? |
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<omry|work> |
0.11 |
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<omry|work> |
mod python |
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<doki_pen> |
you need to set the eggpath, but I'm not sure how. Or maybe change permissions on /var/www/ |
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<pacopablo> |
omry|work: of the accountmanger err |
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<pacopablo> |
er, egg |
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<pacopablo> |
just do an ls and paste what hte name of the egg is |
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<omry|work> |
TracAccountManager-0.2.1dev_r3857-py2.5.egg |
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<Quin1> |
hello. Is there a plugin/feature to add a 'task board' to Trac like the one in JIRA (greenhopper)? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7383 ("Malformed start tag" error with Trac 0.10.4 (Ubuntu version)) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7383#comment:1> || Ticket #7383 ("Malformed start tag" error with Trac 0.10.4 (Ubuntu version)) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7383> |
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<pacopablo> |
omry|work: yeah, that's the correct version |
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<retracile> |
@seen huats |
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<evil_twin> |
retracile: huats was last seen in #trac 6 days, 23 hours, 32 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <huats> let me investigate... |
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<huats> |
hey retracile |
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<huats> |
how are you ? |
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<huats> |
I was not very available lately |
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<huats> |
but I am around now :) |
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<retracile> |
huats: ok. :) Any luck with the run_external double-execution thing? |
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<huats> |
I am looking at trac btw :) |
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<huats> |
retracile: I had to stop playing with it |
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<huats> |
but I am working on it tonight I think |
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<retracile> |
huats: Ok. It's sitting on my TODO list as a loose end that I can't reproduce. Let me know what you find so I can close it out one way or another. |
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<huats> |
sure |
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<huats> |
right now I trying to understand why I cannot use my htpasswd file with tracd |
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<huats> |
:( |
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<huats> |
it always tell me "Authentication information not available" |
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<huats> |
and I don't understand |
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