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June 29, 2008

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[02:44:40] <M4rk__> hey guys. I've just installed trac, but im having some trouble getting the admin plugin installed. any one care to give me a hand? thanks
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[02:48:15] <ras0ir> M4rk__: which version?
[02:48:29] <ras0ir> 0.11 comes with admin plugin by default
[02:50:09] <M4rk__> 0.11 I think
[02:50:58] <M4rk__> how do I get it working? :S
[02:51:04] <ras0ir> just add yourself to the TRAC_ADMIN permission group, and log in :)
[02:51:31] <M4rk__> when I go to login, I get Trac Error Authentication information not available. Please refer to the installation documentation. TracGuide — The Trac User and Administration Guide
[02:57:30] <M4rk__> im gonna remove it all and try and reinstall, see if it works then.
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[03:16:40] <omry|work> bah, I changed my email, and now trac wont let me in. the email is not arriving due to some configuration problem, and I can't activate log since trac wont let me in.
[03:17:50] <omry|work> how do I reset the permissions limitations?
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[03:23:31] <omry|work> activated the log. I see nice things like : 2008-06-29 13:24:47,061 Trac[perm] DEBUG: No policy allowed anonymous performing EMAIL_VIEW on None
[03:23:52] <omry|work> when I try to send the verification email
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[03:28:02] <[Ramy]> how can i see all the users ? how can i delete and add them ?
[03:32:04] <M4rk__> anyone know how I can uninstall trac?
[03:35:37] <M4rk__> nothing will work for me on it, so im trying to remove it then I can reinstall it =/
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[03:42:51] <killer_storm> hi. i'm trying to convert old style macro to new style. old style uses env. new style got formatter as parameter.
[03:43:03] <killer_storm> i try to access it as formatter.env and have "AttributeError: env". i'm puzzled.
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[03:57:24] <osimons> M4rk__: auth information isn't trac - it depends on the frontend to supply username
[03:57:34] <osimons> M4rk__: @frontend
[03:57:40] <osimons> oops
[03:57:43] <osimons> @frontend
[03:57:44] <evil_twin> osimons: "frontend" is CGI, FastCGI, mod_python, tracd, or mod_wsgi
[03:57:56] <osimons> M4rk__: what do you use? ^^
[03:58:11] <M4rk__> don't know =/
[03:58:23] <M4rk__> I found a tutorial and followed it
[03:58:29] <osimons> killer_storm: env is always available for components as self.env
[03:58:45] <osimons> and you'll find req as formatter.req with new style
[03:59:22] <osimons> M4rk__: if you don't know how you've set up the web server, i doubt it is your trac setup you want to look at first...
[03:59:26] <osimons> @wiki TracInstall
[03:59:26] <evil_twin> osimons: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall
[03:59:47] <M4rk__> I used http://blog.compulsivoco.com/2008/05/16/installing-trac-on-centos-5/
[04:00:47] <M4rk__> but then I used tracd to start it, but I just copied and pasted the line from the trac wiki and told it to start path/to/project
[04:00:54] <osimons> M4rk__: that seems to be 0.10 (clearsilver), and if you can avoid it, please use sqlite instead of mysql...
[04:00:58] <M4rk__> now it won't let me start my proper one
[04:01:22] <osimons> @wiki TracModPython
[04:01:22] <evil_twin> osimons: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracModPython
[04:01:32] <osimons> M4rk__: ^^ that is what you then use
[04:01:47] <killer_storm> osimons: ha, indeed.. actually problem was i was using render_macro instead of expand_macro (got it from some example), and so i got req instead of formatter (that was really misleading example).
[04:02:06] <osimons> or - for testing, check TracStandalone to get it running without all the 'stash':
[04:02:10] <osimons> @wiki TracStandalone
[04:02:11] <evil_twin> osimons: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracStandalone
[04:02:13] <killer_storm> now i have sort of markdown support :)
[04:02:37] <osimons> killer_storm: goodie.
[04:02:49] <M4rk__> is there a way to stop the tracd from running?
[04:03:54] <osimons> ctrl-c?
[04:04:17] <osimons> or, if it is in background, kill the process
[04:04:33] <M4rk__> how do I kill a process =/
[04:04:53] <osimons> M4rk__: man kill
[04:05:23] <osimons> do: 'ps aux | grep tracd' to find the process id
[04:05:40] <osimons> then do kill <id>
[04:10:56] <M4rk__> each time I do that, the id changes, and if I do kill, it says no such process =/
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[04:17:27] <M4rk__> yay its started :)
[04:17:30] <M4rk__> I can see my trac
[04:17:53] <M4rk__> now I need to try and figure this login thing out :(
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[04:19:45] <[Ramy]> how can I list all the users registered in trac ?
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[04:34:37] <[Ramy]> how can i reference trac logo to a local place
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[05:23:16] <aat> hi
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[05:41:14] <M4rk__> when I go to login on my trac, why do I get "Trac Error Authentication information not available. Please refer to the installation documentation. "
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[05:47:07] <[Ramy]> how can i list the current users ?
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[05:50:49] <[Ramy]> i can not get help for more than two days ?
[05:50:52] <[Ramy]> !!!!
[05:53:24] <coderanger_> [Ramy]: Its the weekend, that'l happen
[05:54:08] <[Ramy]> coderanger, I am sorry for saying that, but things is not working with me :(
[05:54:39] <coderanger_> brb, gotta run to class
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[06:00:14] <[Ramy]> When i am trying to assign a ticket, i still have some users name even they are not in the password file !!!
[06:01:12] <aat> the drop down field is populated from the trac session table
[06:01:19] <aat> you'll need to remove the users from that table also
[06:01:55] <[Ramy]> aat, where can i find that ?
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[06:15:01] <[Ramy]> coderanger, When i am trying to assign a ticket, i still have some users name even they are not in the password file !!! aat, answered me "the drop down field is populated from the trac session table, you'll need to remove the users from that table also" but i don't know where i can find that ?
[06:15:15] <coderanger_> [Ramy]: It is in the database
[06:15:46] <[Ramy]> coderanger, how can i edit that ?
[06:17:02] <coderanger_> With the frontend for whatever database you are using
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[06:28:59] <[Ramy]> coderanger, I am using sqlite, can you suggest a frontend :) ?
[06:29:05] <coderanger_> sqlite3
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[06:50:25] <[Ramy]> coderanger, Thanks very much
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[07:08:53] <dikim33> I have a problem with upgrading trac 0.10.4 to 0.11. My trac has some user-defined templates using ClearSiver and they could not work as they were. BTW, right now the first page shows the following error: "No macro or processor named 'BlogShow' found"
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[07:10:16] <dikim33> I heard that 0.11 has FullBlogPlugin and I installed it instead of TracBlogPlugin(it is for 0.10.4).
[07:11:22] <dikim33> 0.11 uses a different macro than "BlogShow" for blog?
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[08:08:37] <octorian> Anyone here use the DiscussionPlugin? I just upgraded all my stuff from Trac 0.10 to 0.11, and got it all working. But, I can't create a new forum.
[08:09:05] <octorian> Creating a new discussion forum gives the error: IntegrityError: duplicate key violates unique constraint "forum_pkey"
[08:09:16] <octorian> (if anyone is curious, I'm using PostgreSQL for my DB)
[08:09:30] <coderanger_> octorian: blackhex isn't generally on here much, filing a ticket and/or asking on the ML are probably better bets
[08:09:58] <coderanger_> make sure you are using a 0.11 compatible version if one is listed
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[08:11:16] <coderanger_> @seen blackhex
[08:11:17] <evil_twin> coderanger_: blackhex was last seen in #trac 5 days, 18 hours, 19 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <Blackhex> do you know if xml.etree has internal way for automatic identation?
[08:11:20] <coderanger_> @seen blackhex2
[08:11:20] <evil_twin> coderanger_: blackhex2 was last seen in #trac 2 days, 18 hours, 48 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <Blackhex2> coderanger_: overflow: none or overflow: auto shoud do that, don't it?
[08:13:17] <octorian> I used to run TracDiscussion 0.5, but upgraded to 0.6 as part of the 0.11 upgrade. Even had to add stuff to trac.ini to make it work. (and I've been doing the db upgrade stuff in trac-admin)
[08:13:31] <coderanger_> no idea then :)
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[08:15:51] <coderanger_> octorian: he is good about responding to bugs most of the time
[08:16:14] <octorian> I'll investigate more and write something up then.
[08:16:38] <coderanger_> @logging
[08:16:39] <evil_twin> coderanger_: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
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[08:28:32] <octorian> Well, now I know the SQL that caused the error...
[08:34:27] <octorian> Wow... the same exact SQL worked just fine from the psql command line.
[08:37:34] <CarlFK> where should I look for trac's db schema? (
[08:39:27] <CarlFK> trying to write a "current user involved in" report - need something like WHERE  id in (select id from ticket? where mystery_field = $USER)
[08:39:42] <osimons> CarlFK: what database?
[08:40:00] <CarlFK> osimons: how many are there? :)
[08:40:21] <CarlFK> the one trac puts tickets in, and that reports are run from
[08:41:11] <osimons> @wiki TracDev/DatabaseSchema
[08:41:11] <evil_twin> osimons: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/DatabaseSchema
[08:41:24] <CarlFK> bingo. thanks
[08:41:30] <osimons> np.
[08:42:15] <CarlFK> yay - I was hoping for an image
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[08:48:33] <CarlFK> from ticket WHERE  ticket.id in (select ticket from ticket_change where field in ('owner', 'reporter','cc') and newvalue = $USER)
[08:49:32] <CarlFK> do new tickets get a ticket_change record? (like going from nothing to something)?
[08:50:39] <CarlFK> wondering if I need to also check tickets.owner, ticket.'reporter ticket.cc
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[09:30:19] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7389 ([PATCH] Filesize less than original when downloading file under SSL) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7389>
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[09:44:06] <asmodai> coderanger_: dude!
[09:44:37] <coderanger_> asmodai: D3? :)
[09:44:56] <asmodai> coderanger_: did you see the big avis?
[09:45:10] <coderanger_> yep
[09:45:27] <asmodai> watching the gameplay trailer as avi now, the small flash version on the site did not do it justice
[09:46:31] <asmodai> coderanger_: Not really innovative, but the engine is much slicker
[09:46:49] <coderanger_> Its definitely a sequel, but thats fine
[09:47:00] <asmodai> Yeah, it seems massively improved
[09:47:00] <coderanger_> D2 is still a great game, don't fix what isn't broken
[09:47:10] <asmodai> coderanger_: I actually never finished it
[09:47:22] * asmodai started playing it again just to finish it
[09:48:12] <asmodai> coderanger_: What ticked me off is the stronger versions are just bigger and differently coloured :S
[09:48:42] <coderanger_> asmodai: meh, it gets the job down
[09:48:51] <coderanger_> the graphics in general aren't great
[09:48:56] <asmodai> *nods*
[09:49:20] <asmodai> coderanger_: What do you say , starcraft 2 engine?
[09:49:39] <coderanger_> no idea
[09:49:51] <asmodai> looks like it
[09:49:54] <coderanger_> both use havok, and I would expect them to share a lot of tech
[09:49:58] <asmodai> same physics featurs and such
[09:49:59] <asmodai> *nod*
[09:50:07] <coderanger_> but really all modern game engines look similar
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[09:51:05] <asmodai> coderanger_: You can see a lot of WoW influences into the style of some creatures
[09:51:36] <coderanger_> asmodai: A lot of the demo models are probably copied verbatim :)
[09:51:42] <coderanger_> (thats what I would do anyway)
[09:52:02] <asmodai> :)
[09:52:05] <asmodai> Would be smart
[09:52:16] <asmodai> although the scenery looks like a converted handpainting job
[09:52:22] <asmodai> very real
[09:53:34] <asmodai> coderanger_: Wonder when they plan to release it though.
[09:53:42] <asmodai> coderanger_: I mean, looks quite polished already
[09:53:47] <coderanger_> "What it's ready"
[09:54:02] <coderanger_> I trust Blizzard to take their time and do a good job
[09:54:18] <coderanger_> Just live Valve with HL2
[09:54:29] * asmodai nods
[09:56:41] <asmodai> coderanger_: I think that siege engine beast actually killed off one of the witch doctors :)
[09:57:03] * asmodai double checks
[09:57:24] <asmodai> ah no, it was a mongrel pet
[09:58:55] <asmodai> hahah
[09:58:57] <asmodai> it did kill 2
[09:59:03] <asmodai> one barbarian and one witch doctor
[10:00:11] <asmodai> coderanger_: totally ripped off the head of the barbarian with his mouth
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[11:01:04] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7276]: trunk: Merged [7275] via svnmerge from [source:/branches/0.11-stable]. * ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7276> || Changeset [7275]: An admin request to `/admin/notexist` produced an `IndexError` instead of ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7275>
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[11:59:18] <thijstriemstra> hi im getting this error in the apache.log, should i open a new ticket for it or
[11:59:20] <thijstriemstra> [Sun Jun 29 20:19:41 2008] [error] /usr/local/src/trac/trac/mimeview/rst.py:87: DeprecationWarning: docutils.nodes.Element.set_class deprecated; append to Element['classes'] list attribute directly
[11:59:20] <thijstriemstra> [Sun Jun 29 20:19:41 2008] [error] reference.set_class('missing')
[12:05:27] <coderanger_> check if one exists, if not sure
[12:08:03] <thijstriemstra> couldnt find one, opened a new ticket http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7390
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[12:08:50] <to_> hi
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[12:19:38] <to_> I'm on debian etch, and I've got trac v0.10.4 installed, is there a way to upgrade to 0.11 ?
[12:22:56] <coderanger_> Not yet
[12:23:07] <coderanger_> They are looking to include it on the next release
[12:23:17] <coderanger_> for now you can just install it outside of apt
[12:23:20] <coderanger_> easy_install Trac
[12:24:35] <to_> coderanger: ok, I'll wait for they include it so
[12:25:10] <coderanger_> up to you
[12:25:14] <coderanger_> it will be a while though
[12:27:01] <to_> my trac 0.10.4 works to fine for I risk to break it xD
[12:27:29] <coderanger_> At the very least you should update to 0.10.5
[12:27:35] <to_> but I'm very interested in OpenID Authentication Plugin for 0.11
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[12:29:02] <to_> coderanger: have you already try it?
[12:29:13] <to_> tried
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[12:30:48] <coderanger_> Which one?
[12:30:58] <to_> this one : http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AuthOpenIdPlugin
[12:31:11] <coderanger_> I use the openid delegate plugin
[12:31:22] <coderanger_> easier than running an authenticator pyself
[12:31:39] <to_> is it reliable with subversion authentication?
[12:31:42] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7390 (DeprecationWarning: docutils.nodes.Element.set_class deprecated) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7390>
[12:31:47] <coderanger_> to_: huh?
[12:31:59] <coderanger_> to_: You cannot use OpenID for things outside of the browser
[12:32:13] <to_> oh really? :O
[12:32:21] <to_> I didn't know that
[12:32:25] <coderanger_> Uhh, its a web authentication system
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[12:32:41] <coderanger_> You need client support for things like filling in forms, cookies, etc
[12:32:57] <coderanger_> you could script it, but subversion certainly doesn't support it
[12:36:22] <to_> I don't understand the purpose of TracOpenIDDelegate ...
[12:36:40] <coderanger_> to_: I use https://coderanger.net as my OpenID
[12:36:56] <coderanger_> but it just delegates to another provider for the actual auth check
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[13:00:29] <dikim33> Is there a way to include some files (html) into a genshi template file?
[13:03:37] <dikim33> Or a way to include some genshi template files into a genshi template?
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[13:07:38] <wereHamster> uh, I've seen this trac website that has real treeview (where you can expand subdirectories, ajax style), is that a feature of 0.11 or is that a plugin?
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[13:18:54] <coderanger_> dikim33: xinclude
[13:18:54] <jas8522> wereHamster: I'm guessing a plugin... but I'm not positive about that
[13:19:06] <coderanger_> wereHamster: New feature of 0.11
[13:19:09] <wereHamster> nah, found it, it's part of trac
[13:19:10] <coderanger_> not a plugin
[13:19:11] <jas8522> oh? Nice
[13:19:23] <wereHamster> htdocs/js/expand_dir.js
[13:20:28] <dikim33> coderanger_: how do I use it? Can you give me a simple syntax example?
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[13:20:41] <coderanger_> dikim33: <xi:include href="otherfile.html">
[13:20:56] <coderanger_> well <xi:include href="otherfile.html" />
[13:21:00] <coderanger_> gotta be valid XML
[13:22:19] <dikim33> Yeah, it was found at the beginning of the several templates of trac. So, the included files should be valid XML?
[13:22:43] <coderanger_> dikim33: Yes, they have to be parseable by genshi
[13:23:27] <dikim33> coderanger_: hmmm, is there any way to include just a file not to parse like including files in php?
[13:23:33] <coderanger_> No
[13:23:46] <coderanger_> Genshi is designed to enforce well-formed output
[13:23:57] <dikim33> OK, I'd better play a little bit more with genshi.
[13:24:09] <coderanger_> You could load the file within Trac and add it as a Markup blob
[13:24:11] <coderanger_> but this would be stupid
[13:24:27] <coderanger_> and break anything expecting to be able to filter it
[13:25:52] <dikim33> Can you help me to include my previous <?cs ?> file to genshi template?
[13:26:30] <coderanger_> Convert it to Genshi
[13:26:53] <dikim33> I am not asking you to include the thing to a template that I mentioned above but find a way to implement the cs code in a template.
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[13:31:49] <coderanger_> dikim33: There is a page under TracDev about that
[13:32:05] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracOnDebian edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnDebian?version=107>
[13:32:08] <dikim33> Oh, OK.
[13:32:14] <coderanger_> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/PortingFromClearSilverToGenshi
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[14:03:01] <dikim33> How can I know that some cs variables are also available on genshi? (i.e., the cs variables were just working fine on 0.10.4 but looks like that it is not setup/used on 0.11).
[14:03:33] <coderanger_> ClearSilver is not related to Genshi at all
[14:03:48] <dikim33> More specifically, <?cs var:base_url ?>
[14:04:08] <coderanger_> use the req.href object
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[15:02:47] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7127 (Delete milestone: milestone list for retargeting tickets should not ...) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7127#comment:3> || Changeset [7277]: 0.11-stable: Deleting a milestone no longer includes the to-be-deleted ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7277> || Ticket #5573 ("is not" option in ticket query not functioning) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5573#comment:7>
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[15:07:12] <osimons> jborg
[15:07:15] <osimons> around?
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[15:32:59] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7279]: trunk: Merged [7277:7278] via svnmerge from ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7279> || Ticket #7104 (Missing severity setting from ticket settigns in tracini wiki) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7104#comment:3> || Changeset [7278]: Adding docs for <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7278>
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[16:19:48] <aat> hi
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[16:33:22] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #6646 (patch for "wiki dump" failure when dump directory does not exist) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6646#comment:4> || Changeset [7280]: 0.11-stable: Checks the directory used by `trac-admin wiki dump`, and ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7280>
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[17:03:33] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7281]: trunk: Merged [7280] via svnmerge from [source:/branches/0.11-stable]. * ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7281>
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[18:31:48] <dikim33> Is there any way to remove "class='nav'" from ${navigation('mainnav')}?
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[18:33:48] <dikim33> When ${navigation('mainnav')} is interpreted to html, it generates <div id='mainnav' class='nav'> including a list of main menu <li>s but I don't want to use "class='nav'".
[18:34:02] <coderanger_> why not?
[18:34:22] <dikim33> It generates the vertical line that I don't want to use.
[18:34:33] <coderanger_> so override the CSS
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