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July 03, 2008

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[00:03:43] <specialunderwear> Hi I've got a problem using TracFineGrainedPermissions and authz_svn, in the documentation i find: * = WIKI_VIEW but this WIKI_VIEW permission is unknown to svn. Any ideas?
[00:06:51] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: NewTicket edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/NewTicket?version=10>
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[00:37:05] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7403 (TicketQuery "format=table" generates bad table header links) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7403#comment:4> || Changeset [7305]: `Query.get_href` could generate links with page=0, which is an invalid ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7305>
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[00:42:53] <asmodai> coderanger_: still awake?
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[00:43:22] <predominant> Hey.
[00:43:28] <predominant> How can I sync trac logins and svn logins?
[00:43:48] <asmodai> perhaps with an authz setup
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[00:47:37] <predominant> asmodai: Do you know of any tutorials or examples?
[00:49:03] <asmodai> @wiki authz
[00:49:03] <evil_twin> asmodai: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/authz
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[00:49:07] <asmodai> *sighs*
[00:49:10] <asmodai> @authz
[00:49:11] <evil_twin> asmodai: Error: "authz" is not a valid command.
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[00:49:40] <predominant> heh, Describe authz here
[00:49:53] <asmodai> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFineGrainedPermissions
[00:50:18] <predominant> Thanks
[00:50:30] <pkuczynski> hello everyone!
[00:51:50] <predominant> Hello
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[01:35:16] <Mazon> is the trac browser a custom job? or is it based on svn::web?
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[01:57:04] <predominant> Is there a web based user manager for trac?
[02:03:27] <specialunderwear> Hi I've got a problem using TracFineGrainedPermissions, I've put the [trac] autz_file option correctly, however trac seems to ignore the authz file totally. I'm using --inherit= at the creation moment. Any ideas?
[02:04:03] <specialunderwear> [authz_policy] authz_file = /usr/share/trac/conf/trac_authz.conf
[02:05:31] <cbalan> predominant: If you need only authentification related thing you can use http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin , if you need profiles also you can use http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/UserManagerPlugin
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[02:06:52] <jacobolus> is there any good documentation on creating trac themes?
[02:07:02] <specialunderwear> i=even if I put [*] * = TRAC_ADMIN
[02:07:08] <specialunderwear> [*]
[02:07:12] <specialunderwear> * = TRAC_ADMIN
[02:07:18] <specialunderwear> nobody gets admin rights
[02:07:31] <specialunderwear> in the /usr/share/trac/conf/trac_authz.conf
[02:07:59] <predominant> specialunderwear: Have you defined users?
[02:08:06] <specialunderwear> Yep
[02:08:26] <specialunderwear> I use Authz Page Permissions plugin and it names my users
[02:08:46] <specialunderwear> I can still manually define a TRAC_ADMIN
[02:09:06] <specialunderwear> when I try to set permission_policies = AuthzPolicy
[02:09:14] <specialunderwear> all users got no permissions at all
[02:09:39] <specialunderwear> so it clearly isn't doing anything with the authz file
[02:13:34] <lisppaste5> specialunderwear pasted "authz not being checked" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/63200
[02:17:27] <jacobolus> hmm. no one knows about themes?
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[02:20:27] <predominant> jacobolus: In what sense?
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[02:22:03] <jacobolus> predominant: docs on how to make them?
[02:22:10] <jacobolus> predominant: what they need to include, etc.
[02:27:01] <sensei> Warning: You should install the SVN bindings
[02:27:08] <sensei> I admit defeat... Seriously, what's up with that?
[02:27:53] <sensei> Got swig installed, got /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/subversion.pth and /usr/lib/... python -c "from svn import clietn" works just fine.
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[02:28:13] <asmodai> @customization
[02:28:14] <evil_twin> asmodai: "customization" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracInterfaceCustomization
[02:28:19] <sensei> Have done make swig-py && make install-swig-py no errors
[02:28:53] <sensei> What/where/how does trac-admin check for the SVN bindings?
[02:30:01] <varlon> it's a second day, that I try to use trac(10.3) webadmin. all installed, apahe2 (mod_python) restarted, but admin button doesn't displaied. may be some cached. Can I see an example of URI for webadmin page?
[02:30:43] <asmodai> varlon: for 0.11 with builtin: /admin
[02:30:57] <varlon> I have not 0.11
[02:31:17] <varlon> I have 0.10.3 in my debian lenny distrib
[02:31:31] <predominant> @authentication
[02:31:32] <evil_twin> predominant: Error: "authentication" is not a valid command.
[02:31:39] <predominant> Oh well
[02:31:57] <predominant> I still dont have a working solution for merged SVN and track authentication with a web based management system for it all
[02:32:12] <asmodai> @acctmgr
[02:32:13] <evil_twin> asmodai: Error: "acctmgr" is not a valid command.
[02:32:18] <asmodai> @accountmanager
[02:32:18] <evil_twin> asmodai: "accountmanager" is http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin
[02:32:59] <predominant> Oh
[02:33:01] <predominant> freakin' sweet
[02:33:58] <predominant> Thanks man
[02:34:07] <varlon> can I see list of loaded plugins in my trac?
[02:34:11] <asmodai> np.
[02:34:34] <asmodai> varlon: the admin plugin does that IIRC, or through loggin
[02:36:03] <varlon> what mean "IIRC" ? irc?
[02:36:24] <varlon> or second release condidat? :)
[02:37:35] <misc> "if i remember correctly" ?
[02:38:39] <asmodai> misc: yea
[02:40:40] <varlon> I must grand permission via trac-admin in console for my account, than using webadmin? sorry, I don't understand what you mean before
[02:43:30] <varlon> in instruction said that in trac.ini a must add 2 lines: [components] and webadmin.* = enabled It's allready complete
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[02:47:11] <_Pete_> hello
[02:47:32] <_Pete_> I have problem: Trac detected an internal error: Trac detected an internal error:
[02:47:36] <_Pete_> how to fix that ?
[02:47:44] <_Pete_> oops
[02:47:50] <_Pete_> error: OperationalError: database is locked
[02:48:31] <varlon> eurika!
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[02:49:52] <mcarter> hello
[02:50:12] <mcarter> I was looking for docs about implementing trac themese, and configuring trac installs to use themes
[02:50:58] <guest874> I am install accountmanagerplugin
[02:51:23] <guest874> from trac.log,I saw "Failed to load plugin acct_mgr.admin"
[02:51:25] <varlon> I need just grand previlegions for my account
[02:51:35] <varlon> thanks for all
[02:51:41] <guest874> 2008-07-03 17:41:53,518 Trac[loader] ERROR: Failed to load plugin acct_mgr.admin from /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/TracAccountManager-0.2.1dev-py2.5.egg
[02:54:11] <asmodai> varlon: did you assign the ADMIN rights to the user?
[02:54:32] <asmodai> _Pete_: using a bdb svn repository?
[02:54:46] <asmodai> mcarter: the following:
[02:54:49] <asmodai> @customization
[02:54:49] <evil_twin> asmodai: "customization" is http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracInterfaceCustomization
[02:54:54] <asmodai> @themes
[02:54:54] <evil_twin> asmodai: "themes" is http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/theme <== the theme engine plugin is also required (http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/ThemeEnginePlugin)
[02:55:06] <mcarter> asmodai, thanks
[02:56:22] <varlon> asmodai, now I granded righs, before I try to use default settings
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[02:58:49] <_Pete_> asmodai: dont know actually, but rebooted machine since it already was waiting for kernel update
[02:58:52] <_Pete_> now it's working
[03:06:27] <tinh> asmodai, give me the link to the message.po please :)
[03:06:53] <_Pete_> still wondering what caused the lockupt hing
[03:07:05] <asmodai> tinh: http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/locale/vi_VN/LC_MESSAGES/messages.po
[03:07:19] <tinh> asmodai, thanks
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[03:19:21] <varlon> is it easy to upgrade from trac 0.10.3 to 0.11? now I can use just 0.10.3 because in debian etch have this version. Have I problems with upgrading?
[03:27:42] <pkuczynski> asmodai, what to do once I will translate messages.po? how to commit them back?
[03:28:10] <asmodai> pkuczynski: There's a bunch of tickets open already that I created to track work on them.
[03:28:18] <asmodai> pkuczynski: Simply attach diffs to the ticket.
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[03:48:00] <tinh> asmodai, some terms need context to be translated correctly
[03:48:14] <asmodai> tinh: Hence the comment lines above it
[03:48:26] <asmodai> Shows the files and the line numbers.
[03:48:41] <asmodai> tinh: But *anything* is already a step forward.
[03:48:46] <tinh> like this one: #: trac/admin/templates/admin_enums.html:47
[03:48:46] <tinh> msgid "Order"
[03:48:46] <tinh> msgstr ""
[03:49:09] <asmodai> tinh: I am still in the process of cleaning up some text which is cut up in the source.
[03:49:42] <asmodai> <th>Name</th><th>Default</th><th>Order</th>
[03:50:06] <asmodai> So it's the noun in this case for stating the order of things.
[03:51:20] <tinh> asmodai, okie
[03:51:32] <tinh> asmodai, ordinal?
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[03:56:44] <pkuczynski> asmodai, ok, will do that
[03:56:59] <asmodai> tinh: think so
[03:57:46] <pkuczynski> asmodai, btw. i am also working on some other fixes to tickets - what is the path to become full trac developer?
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[04:00:27] <asmodai> submit tickets
[04:01:15] <Symbi0nt> Is there a report where I can show tickets with attachments
[04:01:16] <Symbi0nt> ?
[04:01:49] <Symbi0nt> only with attachment I mean
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[04:08:32] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7306]: The !CachedRepository `next_rev` method didn't compare paths on directory ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7306>
[04:10:02] <sensei> Hm.. anyone had this: httpd: Objects/stringobject.c:105: PyString_FromString: Assertion `str != ((void *)0)' failed. when accessing trac through apache ?
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[04:35:40] <orkam_wrk> hi
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[05:01:17] <coderanger_> Mazon: Other way around, they ever stole our CSS verbatim
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[05:01:52] <anebi> hi
[05:02:03] <asmodai> coderanger_: let me guess, Redmine?
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[05:02:15] <anebi> do you know if TracGantt plugins is ported already to trac 0.11?
[05:02:27] <coderanger_> asmodai: no, SVN::Web
[05:02:33] <asmodai> Oh
[05:02:37] <coderanger_> anebi: It isn't
[05:02:40] <asmodai> The *other* one.
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[05:03:06] <anebi> coderanger_: is there someway to try to port it to genshi and get it working on trac 0.11?
[05:03:18] <mcarter> I'm having some issues with this theme stuff,
[05:03:34] <asmodai> anebi: IIRC wbb4 was busy working on it or already did it.
[05:03:40] <coderanger_> anebi: sure, port it to genshi and update it to work with 0.11 :P
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[05:03:44] <mcarter> I installed the TracThemeEngine for 0.11, and a 0.11 theme, but i'm not sure how to have trac actually detect it,
[05:03:48] <coderanger_> anebi: That just isn't a small task
[05:04:05] <coderanger_> mcarter: Check the log to see that both plugins are loading
[05:04:07] <coderanger_> @logging
[05:04:08] <evil_twin> coderanger_: "logging" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[05:04:21] <anebi> coderanger_: i suppose that it is not a small task :)
[05:04:31] <mcarter> coderanger, ok, so trac actually loads anything with the entry point trac.plugins?
[05:04:45] <coderanger_> mcarter: yes
[05:04:47] <anebi> asmodai: can you give me some link to see their progress?
[05:04:51] <mcarter> i was thinking that the theme engine would load it and looking throughout its code to figure out why it never looked for the entry points
[05:04:55] <mcarter> makes more sense
[05:06:13] <mcarter> i guess trac has logging disabled by default?
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[05:11:07] <coderanger_> mcarter: yes
[05:11:14] <mcarter> coderanger, so both plugins are loading, the actual error i'm getting is this: "unknown theme: xxxx"
[05:11:29] <coderanger_> mcarter: How did you install them
[05:11:37] <mcarter> coderanger, python setup.py install
[05:11:48] <coderanger_> and then you enabled them in the config?
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[05:12:58] <mcarter> coderanger, good question. i enabled [components] themeengine.* = enabled, and then [theme] theme = xxxx
[05:13:13] <coderanger_> themes are also plugins and need to be enabled
[05:14:02] <mcarter> coderanger, so if the theme module is "orbited_trac_theme" and the entry point is named "orbited_trac_theme.theme", any idea how i would enable it in config?
[05:14:46] <coderanger_> orbited_trac_theme.* = enabled
[05:15:22] <mcarter> great
[05:15:56] <mcarter> coderanger, so it counts as a component?
[05:16:23] <coderanger_> yes, themes are just a subset of plugins
[05:17:32] <mcarter> coderanger_, so its [components] orbited_trac_theme.* = enabled, or [plugins] orbited_trac_theme.* ?
[05:17:56] <coderanger_> mcarter: The [components] section is how you enable plugins
[05:18:03] <coderanger_> themeengine is also a plugin
[05:18:15] <mcarter> coderanger_, got it, and its done by entry point or module name?
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[05:20:39] <coderanger_> mcarter: module/class path
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[05:23:34] <Symbi0nt> Hi, is it possible to reverse the order of the comments in a ticket?
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[05:23:52] <Symbi0nt> If someone could point me to the .py file with the sql i'll do it myself
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[05:24:54] <mcarter> coderanger_, apparently you enable themese with themeengine by there class name, of all things
[05:25:05] <coderanger_> huh?
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[05:25:53] <coderanger_> mcarter: There is a base class provided with ThemeEngine which will examine the class name and use it as the theme name (minus "Theme" on the end)
[05:26:15] <mcarter> coderanger_, right. I just looked through the code and found that. I hadn't realized
[05:26:24] <mcarter> coderanger_, thanks for your help
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[05:31:11] <mcarter> coderanger_, for a theme plugin, if i have htdocs in the module, will it look there before looking in a default location? for instance, can i put a layout.html in my plugin and expect it to override the one that comes with trac if my theme is enabled?
[05:31:45] <coderanger_> mcarter: No
[05:32:09] <coderanger_> mcarter: I explicitly removed template overrides, they are too fragile
[05:32:19] <coderanger_> mcarter: Use py:match blocks in your theme.html file
[05:33:06] <orkam> coderanger_ Did you have a look at the Mastertickets / Depgraph / depth to infinite issue? If no: Should I create a ticket @ trac-hacks?
[05:33:36] <Symbi0nt> Hi, is it possible to reverse the order of the comments in a ticket? If someone could point me to the .py file with the sql i'll do it myself.
[05:33:56] <mcarter> that sounds like the right way to do it, but i was hoping to avoid learning this template language for now
[05:34:32] <mcarter> coderanger_, i don't suppose there's a way to enable template overrides until I can learn the templating system?
[05:34:48] <coderanger_> orkam: Nope, but when you do file the ticket please include two additional things. Go to the depgraph page and add ?format=text to the url (and include that text) and then make it format=debug and include that too
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[05:35:01] <coderanger_> orkam: That will tell me what mastertickets thinks the ticketlinks look like
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[05:37:21] <mcarter> coderanger_, on second thought, py:match doesn't seem so bad. Can you link me to a theme that I can use as an example?
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[05:38:44] <coderanger_> mcarter: http://trac-hacks.org/browser/crystalxtheme/0.11/crystalxtheme/templates/crystalx_theme.html
[05:39:29] <mcarter> coderanger_, is the convention THEMENAME_theme.html ?
[05:40:06] <orkam> coderanger_ To avoid misunderstandings: you mean that page: .../depgraph/17?format=text ? => That results in an 128 error (ordinal not in range) while format=debug works well. Should I upload the corresponding logs for the error?
[05:40:33] <coderanger_> orkam: The debug is more important, so just send that
[05:40:38] <orkam> ok
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[05:41:31] <coderanger_> mcarter: yes
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[06:17:31] <lazymanc> guys, im using trac 0.11rc1 and I'm trying to install batchModifyPlugin - I've tried the easy install method, and then creating the egg from source and copying it to the plugins dir, but it does not show up under the plugins list in the admin section
[06:17:50] <lazymanc> apache was restarted
[06:18:11] <varlon> I'm using TracPygmentsPlugin and wanted to view php-scripts in my svn. But I see just strings highlights. I must edit mimeviewer section for php or someelse?
[06:18:52] <coderanger_> varlon: Try disabling the default php colorer
[06:18:59] <coderanger_> [components]
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[06:19:07] <coderanger_> trac.mimeview.php.* = disabled
[06:20:37] <sensei> Anyone had this: httpd: Objects/stringobject.c:105: PyString_FromString: Assertion `str != ((void *)0)' failed. when accessing trac through apache ?
[06:21:16] <smartermuffin> Howdy, I'm having difficulty with accountmanagerplugin. How do I disable email address verification?
[06:22:40] <coderanger_> smartermuffin: acct_mgr.web_ui.EmailVerificationModule = disabled
[06:22:56] <coderanger_> sensei: Can't say I have seen that one before
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[06:25:21] <dikim33_> coderanger_: LookupError: unknown encoding: /trac/oscar/tags
[06:25:27] <aat> hiello
[06:25:38] <dikim33_> Have you seen this error?
[06:25:52] <dikim33_> This error just shows up on and off.
[06:26:52] <dikim33_> It does not show all the time and it seems that there is some conflicts and this conflict sometimes happens or does not.
[06:27:41] <smartermuffin> coderanger: thank you sir, works perfectly
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[06:30:07] <varlon> coderanger, no, just all disabled and display as plain text
[06:30:23] <coderanger_> varlon: And you are sure pygments is loading?
[06:30:36] <coderanger_> varlon: Go to the About Trac page and see what version of pygmets is reported
[06:32:16] <sensei> coderanger_: Aw bummer..
[06:33:28] <dikim33_> can anyone take a look at this error? http://pastebin.ca/1061304
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[06:34:16] <varlon> coderanger_, thanks for you replay. pygments module not loaded, but loaded enscript module for highlights, it can be a reson for disabling pygments?
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[06:35:12] <coderanger_> varlon: No, they can both be active at once
[06:35:22] <coderanger_> varlon: Did you install pygments through apt or yum?
[06:35:38] <varlon> no
[06:35:42] <varlon> via easy_install
[06:35:49] <coderanger_> Hmm, that should be fine
[06:35:55] <coderanger_> and you are using trac 0.11?
[06:36:01] <varlon> I didn't found deb's
[06:36:06] <varlon> no, 0.10.3
[06:36:10] <varlon> from debian etch
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[06:36:59] <coderanger_> varlon: 1) you should really be running 0.10.5 at the very least 2) did you install the pygments plugin?
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[06:37:29] <varlon> yes, I installed it
[06:37:33] * mitsuhiko wants to see sqlalchemy in trac :)
[06:37:43] <asmodai> mitsuhiko: So do I. :)
[06:37:52] <varlon> do you know where can I got trac 0.10.5 for debian etch?
[06:38:06] <varlon> * get
[06:38:22] <asmodai> mitsuhiko: At least I synched the branch to trunk pretty recently. Need to move forward again.
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[06:40:00] <coderanger_> varlon: Same place you get it normally, trac.edgewall.org
[06:40:27] <varlon> :)
[06:40:38] <Mazon> is it possible to *only* install the repository browser (I realize I can just prevent access to the other paths)?
[06:41:14] <coderanger_> Mazon: You could disable the other components
[06:42:03] <Mazon> using trac component remove ?
[06:42:06] <coderanger_> No
[06:42:17] <Mazon> trac-admin I mean
[06:42:23] <coderanger_> the trac-admin component stuff refers to ticket components
[06:42:25] <coderanger_> not plugins
[06:42:29] <Mazon> oh
[06:42:38] <coderanger_> use the [components] section in trac.ini to disable things
[06:42:44] <coderanger_> like trac.wiki.* = disabled
[06:42:56] <Mazon> right, got it
[06:42:58] <Mazon> thx
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[06:46:25] <dikim33_> I am using mod_python to host multiple vhosts.
[06:46:34] <dikim33_> Do you think that it is problematic?
[06:46:40] * retracile utters something indelicate about mornings.
[06:47:03] <dikim33_> It works just fine on 0.10.4
[06:47:08] <coderanger_> dikim33_: No, just be sure all use the same PythonInterpreter
[06:47:56] <dikim33_> I am sure that I did it but as I posted earlier, the weird error goes on and off.
[06:48:18] <dikim33_> http://pastebin.ca/1061304
[06:48:56] <coderanger_> dikim33_: Make sure you only have the 0.11 version of tags installed
[06:49:15] <coderanger_> dikim33_: Also you aren't trying to use mod_py to run both 0.10 and 0.11 right?
[06:49:16] <dikim33_> tags?
[06:49:33] <coderanger_> dikim33_: That error is coming from the TracTags plugin
[06:49:49] <dikim33_> No, I am not going to use both of them once 0.11 is up and running fine.
[06:50:03] <dikim33_> Oh,
[06:50:09] <coderanger_> dikim33_: But you are now?
[06:50:26] <coderanger_> You cannot use mod_py to run differing versions of the same code, it will break things
[06:50:53] <dikim33_> My live running machine was using 0.10.4 and I did not want to overwrite until everything is working on 0.11.
[06:51:21] <coderanger_> Then you cannot use mod_py ...
[06:51:25] <dikim33_> But I did not make the both used.
[06:51:48] <dikim33_> I have done this on another test.
[06:51:58] <coderanger_> Having both 0.10 and 0.11 installed is likely to make things sad unless you are very careful
[06:51:58] <dikim33_> I mean another server.
[06:52:07] <coderanger_> okay, thats fine
[06:52:22] <coderanger_> What version of the tags plugin are you using
[06:52:56] <dikim33_> I usually use a plugin for each trac instance.
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[06:54:02] <dikim33_> I do not use a global plugin.. ah, maybe, tags plugin was accidentally installed globally whenn I was not really familiar with trac.
[06:54:39] <varlon> why I can't find button for create a new wiki page? I have a TRAC_ADMIN and WIKI_CREATE permissions
[06:54:40] <dikim33_> I think I know what happens.
[06:55:29] <tomorama> Trac is complaining that it can't write to the python egg cache, which it says is in my home dir. I however have explicitly defined PYTHON_EGG_CACHE to be /sw/var/python-eggs in apache2.conf and restarted the webserver numerous times
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[06:57:00] <Sixer> Hi. sudo make install-swig-python worked, but didn't give me a working svn sync in trac, so I did an apt-get install python-subversion. Now I get:
[06:57:03] <Sixer> SubversionException: ("Expected FS format '2'; found format '3'", 160043)
[06:57:07] <coderanger_> asmodai: http://consumerist.com/consumer/shoplifting/10000th-shoplifter-gets-parade-173398.php
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[06:57:26] <coderanger_> dikim33_: You shouldn't do that
[06:57:40] <coderanger_> varlon: Just open the page and click edit
[06:57:55] <coderanger_> tomorama: Please try installing Genshi with the --always-unzip flag
[06:58:13] <coderanger_> Sixer: Your subversion bindings are older than subversion itself
[06:58:14] <asmodai> coderanger_: THink I saw that one before
[06:58:38] <coderanger_> dikim33_: Plugins are interpreter-global, so you can't actually install them per-project like that
[06:58:41] <Sixer> coderanger_: ok, should I uninstall the bindings and recompile the latest?
[06:58:45] <coderanger_> dikim33_: It will just use the first one it finds
[06:58:49] <coderanger_>