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July 05, 2008

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[02:55:35] <roh> hm.. anybody experience with tracforge?
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[03:59:12] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7408 (AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'urlsafe_b64encode') reopened <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7408#comment:2> || Ticket #7341 (While I was trying to attach a .html file on the existing ticket, I found ...) reopened <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7341#comment:4> || Ticket #7341 (While I was trying to attach a .html file on the existing ticket, I found ...) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7341#comment:3> || Ticket #7408 (AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'urlsafe_b64encode') closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7408#comment:1>
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[07:12:04] <_mingau_> hello people
[07:12:18] <_mingau_> i need some help...
[07:12:31] <_mingau_> could someone help me? please?
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[07:15:22] <jborg> _mingau_: It kind of depends on what you question is :)
[07:15:45] <rbd> hey guys, I'd like to use ReST as the default wiki markup. is there a way to do this (to avoid having to use {{{ #!rst }}} everywhere...we use it for all wiki text)?
[07:16:24] <coderanger__> Nope
[07:17:36] <_mingau_> jborg...my question is...is it possible to integrate trac and netoffice dwins?
[07:18:01] <coderanger__> _mingau_: What is "netoffice dwins"
[07:18:41] <_mingau_> its a variation of netoffice project manager
[07:19:09] <coderanger__> Given that I have never heard of it, unlike;y
[07:19:37] <jborg> hey coderanger, any feedback on the modpython egg_cache bug?
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[07:19:53] <coderanger__> jborg: No one has responded
[07:21:04] <asmodai> coderanger__: dude!
[07:21:06] <asmodai> jborg: dude!
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[07:22:10] <jborg> hey asmodai, what's up?
[07:22:22] <asmodai> jborg: relaxing, getting my energy back
[07:22:30] <_mingau_> any answer to me jborg?
[07:22:36] <_mingau_> :D
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[07:23:31] <jborg> _mingau_: no, I'm afraid I haven't head of it either.
[07:23:46] <_mingau_> :D
[07:23:48] <_mingau_> ok...
[07:24:30] <_mingau_> thx for help...i will be looking for it...
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[10:45:02] <mcz> hi all
[10:56:43] <crawfordcomeaux> hi
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[11:48:11] <alus> hi. Trac tickets on our instance of Trac are taking minutes to submit
[11:48:42] <alus> the disk was full, but clearing some space did not fix it
[11:48:49] <alus> also a reboot did not help
[11:49:10] <alus> what should we do?
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[12:19:05] <jborg> alus: have you enabled email notifications?
[12:19:47] <alus> yes
[12:19:51] <jborg> If so it's probably your email server taking too long to accept emails
[12:20:06] <alus> so the drive filling up was a coincidence?
[12:20:13] <alus> other emails in the company are working fine
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[12:21:21] <alus> anyway, I found that ticket on the Trac site, #3220, and made my comments there
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[12:21:38] <hydroponic> Hello. I am using 0.11. I have ThemeEngine running (well, the advanced/simple pages just have a button and a broken image), but I can't seem to get PyDotOrg theme working.. in my global trac.ini I have pydotorgtheme.* = enabled under components and theme = PyDotOrg in [theme] .. nothing changes, still getting default 0.11 theme. help ?
[12:21:40] <qou> what's a ticket?
[12:23:18] <hydroponic> A ticket is an issue
[12:23:54] <jborg> alus: In case your email server is flaky you could install a local MTA on the server to avoid slow ticket submissions.
[12:24:52] <alus> but like I said, other email is working fine.
[12:25:18] <alus> so I'm not sure that's the issue. installing an MTA just to debug seems time consuming.
[12:26:28] <qou> when someone edits source code using trac do those change go live and affect the site instantaneously?
[12:27:51] <jborg> alus: True but you need to start somewhere. And unless something is pegging the cpu while the ticket is being submitted the delay is most likely caused by some kind of MTA delay/timeout.
[12:28:47] <alus> I don't have access to the machine, because our ops department is ridiculous
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[12:29:08] <alus> I assume they would have noticed high cpu usage, and read any and all log messages that occurred
[12:30:35] <jborg> maybe, but 100% cpu for just a minute or two is probably not enough to trigger any alarms.
[12:31:25] <jborg> but anyway, without access to the server you'll probably not be able to find the real cause. But it's almost always some mta related problem
[12:31:41] <alus> so, I think Trac should log about this then
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[12:33:06] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #3220 (Submitting a ticket is very slow) reopened <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3220#comment:8>
[12:33:55] <jborg> true, but it doesn't do that right now. So that's not going to help you.
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[12:35:36] <alus> well, it could have helped me if it was added when the first user requested it
[12:36:44] <jborg> what version are you running btw?
[12:36:47] <hydroponic> Trac is the hardest piece of software I've ever had to setup
[12:36:57] <hydroponic> ... I am using 0.11. I have ThemeEngine running (well, the advanced/simple pages just have a button and a broken image), but I can't seem to get PyDotOrg theme working.. in my global trac.ini I have pydotorgtheme.* = enabled under components and theme = PyDotOrg in [theme] .. nothing changes, still getting default 0.11 theme. help ?
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[12:40:42] <alus> jborg: 0.10.4
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[12:42:35] <jborg> ok, if I create a patch that warns about slow mail servers, will you be able to test it?
[12:43:16] <alus> I can certainly ask them to install it.
[12:44:11] <alus> what I mean is, I don't know
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[13:05:52] <jborg> alus: btw do the notification mails still arrive?
[13:06:41] <alus> hm
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[13:10:35] <jborg> if not a mail server timeout would result in a "ERROR: Failure sending notification" line in the trac log file (if logging is enabled)
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[13:15:53] <alus> jborg: I just tried it and do not see a mail.
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[13:22:29] <jborg> ok in that case the mail submission probably failed for some reason, and that should be in the trac log.
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[13:33:33] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #3220 (Submitting a ticket is very slow) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3220#comment:9> || Changeset [7323]: Merged r7322 (warn about slow mail submissions) from 0.11-stable. Closes ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7323> || Changeset [7322]: 0.11-stable: Detect and warn about slow (> 5 seconds) mail submissions. ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7322>
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[13:41:04] <crawfordcomeaux> could someone take a look at this error: trac.opennomic.com
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[13:48:40] <jborg> crawfordcomeaux: just read the last line
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[13:50:45] <jborg> but the "user root" part looks a bit strange, it should be the user running the web server, usually called something like apache, www or www-data depending on which os you're running
[13:52:52] <crawfordcomeaux> it'll be apache...I found a patch for the backend that'll report the user properly, but the error isn't fixed
[13:55:28] <jborg> and the file trac.db _and_ the directory it's located in is writable by apache?
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[14:03:46] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: 0.11/TracOnUbuntu edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntu?version=16>
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[14:06:03] <crawfordcomeaux> owned by the apache user and group...
[14:06:43] <crawfordcomeaux> woops...strike that! they're not!
[14:08:10] <crawfordcomeaux> I could've SWORN I just saw the right perms, dammit :P
[14:12:32] <crawfordcomeaux> should I set both the apache user and group as the owners for the trac dirs?
[14:13:33] <crawfordcomeaux> just setting the user works, but just wondering if there's a security-based reason for setting the group as owner too
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[14:15:24] <crawfordcomeaux> nevermind...just reread that part of the install guide...
[14:15:25] * crawfordcomeaux sighs
[14:17:20] <jborg> as long as apache can write to the db directory itself and the file trac.db you should be fine
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[14:21:19] <crawfordcomeaux> what are the proper permissions for trac.ini?
[14:21:59] <crawfordcomeaux> 744?
[14:22:06] <crawfordcomeaux> 644, I mean
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[14:42:33] <crawfordcomeaux> WOO! I did it! Apache, Trac, and Mercurial are now finally installed and configured!
[14:42:57] * crawfordcomeaux likes linux because it's more rewarding when you install things and get them working than on windows
[14:43:02] <jborg> you're probably best of making the entire env directory writable by apache
[14:43:10] <hydroponic> I am using 0.11. I have ThemeEngine running, but I can't sget any themes working.. in my global trac.ini I have xyztheme.* = enabled under components and theme = XYZ in [theme] .. nothing changes, still getting default theme
[14:43:16] <crawfordcomeaux> jborg: already done
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[14:44:48] <jborg> hydroponic: I'm sorry but I have never used ThemeEngine so I don't think I can help you
[14:45:32] <hydroponic> jborg: I just wanna use ANY different theme from the default, what do you suggest for 0.11? Is it possible?
[14:46:27] <jborg> Yeah, you can customize it yourself with som custom css and html if you like: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracInterfaceCustomization
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[14:48:07] <hydroponic> jborg: thanks. Can I download the edgewall theme?
[14:49:24] <jborg> no, it's not packaged as a standalone theme, it's part of a larger website.
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[14:58:47] <Jux1> hi. i got a question - how can i add all my trac users as a drop-down for "new ticket" window?
[14:59:00] <Jux1> e.g. assign should be a drop down
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[15:10:42] <crawfordcomeaux> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/srv/trac/opennomic/conf/ticket/VERSION'
[15:11:07] <crawfordcomeaux> should a ticket directory even be there?
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[15:30:04] <hydroponic> Anyone know if NavAddPlugin works for 0.11? Or if I can add new nav links in 0.11 via trac.ini?
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[15:35:13] <hydroponic> k, yes it works (svn)
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[15:53:53] <qou> when someone edits source code using trac do those change go live and affect the site instantaneously?
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[16:04:39] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #2 (No wiki component in bug tracker) reopened <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2#comment:2>
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[16:34:53] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #2 (انا الهكر) reopened <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2#comment:2>
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[17:05:05] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7410 (Font sizes in CSS should be "em", not pixels) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7410>
[17:11:33] <alus> HACKARS WABARI
[17:13:09] <Jux1> i have trac 0.11 installed and i cant figure out how to enable the webadmin
[17:13:16] <Jux1> supposely it's installed
[17:13:19] <Jux1> but i cant get to the menu
[17:15:20] <ras0ir> Jux1: are you TRAC_ADMIN permission group?
[17:15:25] <ras0ir> +in
[17:16:09] <Jux1> i have a user with TRAC_ADMIN
[17:16:52] <Jux1> trac-admin /var/lib/trac/demoproject/ permission add admin TRAC_ADMIN
[17:17:59] <Jux1> heh i think i got it
[17:18:06] <Jux1> i wish i remembered what i did tho
[17:18:14] <Jux1> i think the trick was to install the old webadmin module
[17:18:19] <Jux1> even though it says 0.11 has it
[17:20:10] <Jux1> i am looking for a module that would display my trac users in a drop down in the assign field
[17:20:15] <Jux1> i cant figure out how to do that
[17:20:48] <ras0ir> well there's a wiki page for drop down list but i dont remember
[17:21:26] <ras0ir> by the way, 0.11 includes webadmin by default, im not familiar with 0.10 series, webadmin directly worked for me
[17:22:16] <Jux1> weird i have 0.11 and it didnt
[17:22:21] <Jux1> but i got it working now
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[17:25:04] <hydroponic> How do I change the buttons from being on the right to being aligned on the left?
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[17:26:21] <Gambit-> There's a trac web administration thing? Huh, I didn't know that.
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[17:54:05] <aat> hello
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[18:07:34] <naruto> Anyone help me why the project_env/plugins/* are not loaded after setting up trac with fcgi? This worked just fine with mod_python.
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[18:09:48] <dikim33> NickServ identify 9728po
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[18:18:16] <Gambit-> heh dikim33, maybe time to change you rpassword?
[18:18:55] <dikim33> haha.. sorrry. It was accidentally typed in. Anyway, it was not a correct one.
[18:19:39] <dikim33> Gambit-: can you help me the problem that I posted above?
[18:20:16] <Gambit-> No, I'm totally noob. I'd suggest enabling the debugging logging in your trac.ini and examine the logfile for any exceptions.
[18:20:31] <Gambit-> 0.11 has some wierd directory issues that didn't seem very clear to me either.
[18:20:45] <dikim33> ok.
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[18:23:00] <dikim33> It is my first time try to use fastCGI on trac. This one took me a lot of time to figure out all the problems to setup fcgi+py2.4+virtualenv on RHEL4 (by default, python2.3).
[18:24:16] <Gambit-> ah, well, I'm running on an older ubuntu in 2.4
[18:25:09] <dikim33> Anyway, mod_python was just working fine with all the trac setup that I have made but looks like fcgi one does not find the ones(e.g., plugins, so far) that should be used.
[18:29:09] <dikim33> Gambit-: I think I found why it happened. all the plugins were compiled with python2.3 and I was still using them on fcgi+py2.4+virtualenv.
[18:29:29] <Gambit-> ah, yup, gotta compile things correctly.
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