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July 09, 2008

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[00:09:22] <Gottox> hi!
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[00:11:08] <Gottox> I'm trying to migrate a sqlite db to postgresql with sqlite2pg. I get the following error: psycopg2.ProgrammingError: schema "public" already exists. If I'm commenting out the line which triggers this error I get psycopg2.ProgrammingError: relation "component" does not exist
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[01:08:29] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: MultipleRepositorySupport edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MultipleRepositorySupport?version=14>
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[01:24:21] <timonator> how can i delete a ticket? i don't want it in the database any more
[01:25:30] <asmodai> @ticketdelete
[01:25:30] <evil_twin> asmodai: "ticketdelete" is Download the TicketDelete plugin from http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TicketDeletePlugin
[01:26:07] <timonator> ok thanks
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[01:32:19] <timonator> where do i get TracWebAdmin for 0.10?
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[01:46:51] <Jug-> Hi guys. I've read the TracBackup docs, but I can seem to find a way to make "trac-admin hotcopy" silent in a backup script. Any way to do this ?
[01:47:06] <Jug-> *but I can't seem
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[01:56:29] <timonator> 2>&1 >> /dev/null ?
[01:56:58] <Jug-> well, silent unless there is something important to report :) I just don't want useless emails from cron.
[01:57:39] <Jug-> But it would be nice to know if the backup failed. Just like svnadmin, tar, etc.
[02:01:02] <asmodai> @webadmin
[02:01:03] <evil_twin> asmodai: "webadmin" is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin
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[03:16:45] <JingleBells> hi, i'm having a little trouble trying to use the htdocs folder in my trac install, and setting a header logo
[03:17:10] <JingleBells> the header logo file lives in the /var/www/trac/project/htdocs folder
[03:17:25] <JingleBells> yet looking at the logs for trac, it's trying to find it in the /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Trac-0.11rc2-py2.3.egg/trac/htdocs folder
[03:17:52] <JingleBells> i'm using mod_python with apache if it helps
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[04:13:51] <wild_oscar> greetings!
[04:14:26] <wild_oscar> I have been using trac seldomly, and a doubt arose - is the purpose of svn integration just to browse the source code?
[04:14:56] <wild_oscar> or can I integrate it in trac tickets. for example, creating a link for a specific line in the code
[04:16:07] <asmodai> you can
[04:16:12] <wild_oscar> ie, I created a trac ticket in the lines of "not working very well at the moment, fix it in line x of file y"
[04:16:18] <asmodai> source:trunk/blah/blah/file.py#L384
[04:16:28] <wild_oscar> ah :) cheers
[04:16:29] <asmodai> from the top of my head
[04:16:33] <asmodai> or
[04:16:39] <asmodai> Fixed in r4553.
[04:16:47] <asmodai> and a link to the diff for changeset 4553
[04:17:03] <wild_oscar> how does the first link relate to the source version?
[04:17:34] <asmodai> Simple, source: points to the / of your repo.
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[04:23:02] <wild_oscar> to change the svn repository for a project, what do I need after changing the line repository_dir= in the trac.ini file?
[04:23:23] <asmodai> trac-admin /path/to/env
[04:23:25] <asmodai> resync
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[04:25:10] <wild_oscar> ah :)
[04:25:11] <wild_oscar> cheers
[04:27:54] <wild_oscar> asmodai: can you set the revision number on source:trunk/blah/blah/file.py#L384 ?
[04:28:23] <wild_oscar> ie, imagine that file.py changed from revision 1 to 2, ant it was line 384 in rev 1, but line 100 on rev 2
[04:30:42] <asmodai> sourcesource:trunk/trac/util/translation.py@7044#L30
[04:30:44] <asmodai> err
[04:30:46] <asmodai> source:trunk/trac/util/translation.py@7044#L30
[04:33:23] <wild_oscar> :) cheers
[04:33:51] <asmodai> wild_oscar: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLinks
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[04:35:54] <wild_oscar> ah, thank you. I had been looking for that!
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[04:39:55] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracBackup edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracBackup?version=17> || TracBackup edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracBackup?version=16> || TracBackup edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracBackup?version=15>
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[04:52:45] <nergalix> A short question: I found various sources about how to setup "multi-project support" for Trac, but many of them seem to be out of date. Which approach would you recommend?
[04:53:26] <nergalix> I'm using 0.11 btw, and most important for me would be a "single sign-on" and "cross-project queries"
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[04:55:42] <asmodai> nergalix: mmm, not sure if tracforge is appropriate
[04:55:44] <asmodai> @tracforge
[04:55:45] <evil_twin> asmodai: "tracforge" is http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracForgePlugin -- Expermiental Trac multi-project support
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[04:59:50] <nergalix> asmodai: Hmm, this seems to handle permissions and creation of new projects mainly
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[05:00:10] <nergalix> asmodai: You know if it has support for cross-project queries?
[05:00:25] <kjs> Guys, I have setup trac with Active Directory auth .
[05:00:31] <kjs> HOW CAN I SET A TRAC ADMIN ?
[05:00:35] <kjs> sorry for caps.
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[05:03:18] <doki_pen> coderanger_: http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/3296
[05:03:24] <doki_pen> it's been a week
[05:05:42] <asmodai> nergalix: honestly no idea
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[05:07:29] <nergalix> asmodai: I found a ticket for tracforge which is requesting this feature. It seems this is currently in development. The Last comment was in 2006 though ...
[05:08:13] <asmodai> nergalix: I do know coderanger_ rewrote/extended a lot of TracForce
[05:08:16] <asmodai> Forge
[05:08:24] <asmodai> not sure what the current status is
[05:09:11] <nergalix> I'll try to catch him then ^^. He seems to be currently afk
[05:09:42] <asmodai> nergalix: asleep most likely
[05:09:45] <asmodai> he's states-side
[05:09:50] <nergalix> oic
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[05:15:52] <aat> mornig
[05:15:54] <aat> n
[05:16:00] <estan> morning. i just set up 0.11.
[05:16:11] <estan> and i'd like to customize the project list template.
[05:17:03] <estan> so i copied /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.5.egg/trac/templates/index.html and set TRAC_ENV_INDEX_TEMPLATE in my web server environment.
[05:17:14] <estan> (that is the standard template trac uses).
[05:17:21] <estan> and it finds my copied template.
[05:17:32] <estan> but for some reason i get: * $project.name $project.name: Error
[05:17:32] <estan> ($project.description)
[05:17:54] <estan> even though it's at the moment the exactly same template as the standard one.
[05:17:58] <estan> anyone know why?
[05:18:42] <estan> for some reason it's not processing the template as it should.
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[05:20:12] <estan> i think my lighttpd serves it as plain html..
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[05:22:29] <doki_pen> asmodai: TracForce sounds cool
[05:22:30] <estan> ah not using .html did the trick.
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[05:22:43] <doki_pen> what does it do though?
[05:22:57] <doki_pen> force ppl to write more code?
[05:23:45] <kjs> how can i set a trac admin if im using ldap for auth ?
[05:25:01] <doki_pen> you have to add TRAC_ADMIN permission
[05:25:08] <doki_pen> for the username via trac-admin
[05:25:15] <doki_pen> trac permissions are stored in trac
[05:25:25] <doki_pen> ldap just authenticates the user
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[05:29:12] <kjs> doki_pen: how would I do this?
[05:31:47] <kjs> if i try and give he uiser perms on the cmd line via trac-admin trac-admin wont know about the user?
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[05:37:27] <doki_pen> kjs: just try it
[05:37:30] <doki_pen> it will work
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[05:41:28] <JohnSourcer> why does trac.web.auth.loginmodule = disabled not do anything?
[05:43:07] <kjs> doki_pen: will try...
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[05:46:34] <estan> hmf. really annoying on freebsd that trac installs its htdocs to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.5.egg/trac/htdocs/ (e.g. path dependant on the version number).. when you set up aliases in the web server for static resources you have to take the version number into consideration.
[05:48:30] <asmodai> estan: trac-admin deploy
[05:49:37] <estan> asmodai: ah nice. but i'd have to do that each time i upgrade trac right?
[05:49:54] <asmodai> estan: Only if the htdocs would change
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[05:50:30] <estan> asmodai: hm yes. but how would i know if they've changed?
[05:50:46] <asmodai> diff -ruN
[05:50:49] <asmodai> I guess
[05:51:06] <estan> i'd like it better if the freebsd port of trac installed the htdocs to e.g. /usr/share/trac/htdocs instead..
[05:51:12] <estan> so i didn't have to worry about it.
[05:51:24] <asmodai> The htdocs are part of the egg nowadays.
[05:51:35] <asmodai> In order to have version controlled deployments.
[05:51:44] <estan> yea, i see.
[05:52:43] <estan> btw the web server user needs rw permissions to the whole env dir, or just the db/ ?
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[05:54:49] <JohnSourcer> why does trac.web.auth.loginmodule = disabled not do anything?
[05:54:50] <estan> hm.
[05:54:51] <estan> franz# trac-admin deploy /var/www/dev.dose.se/greta
[05:54:51] <estan> *** Unknown syntax: /var/www/dev.dose.se/greta
[05:55:01] <estan> how do i use deploy?
[05:55:12] <JohnSourcer> trac works well on unix but sucks on doze!
[05:56:00] <estan> :)
[05:56:59] <estan> asmodai: do you know the correct invocation of trac-admin deploy? what should the [directory] argument be? an env? or a target for the static resources?
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[06:00:03] <estan> ah nevermind.
[06:00:16] <estan> it's always trac-admin <env> command <args>.
[06:04:50] <estan> hm.
[06:05:14] <estan> when i re-pointed my server to use the trac.fcgi that trac-admin deploy created, i get:
[06:05:17] <estan> 2008-07-09 15:04:00: (mod_fastcgi.c.1029) the fastcgi-backend /var/www/dev.dose.se/static/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi failed to start:
[06:05:20] <estan> 2008-07-09 15:04:00: (mod_fastcgi.c.1033) child exited with status 9 /var/www/dev.dose.se/static/cgi-bin/trac.fcgi
[06:05:28] <estan> anyone know how i can get some more verbose output from lighttpd about this?
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[06:06:42] <pkuczynski> hi all!
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[06:09:03] <estan> guess i'll just use the trac.fcgi that is installed, instead of the deployed one, since that one is actually in /usr/local/share/trac/cgi-bin for some reason.
[06:09:23] <asmodai> Should be identical for all I know
[06:13:20] <aat> asmodai: it's not new, eg. http://www.cs.rice.edu/~scrosby/hash/
[06:13:26] <aat> err, wrong channel :)
[06:13:31] <estan> yea. hm.
[06:14:28] <estan> is there an auth system for trac so that i can have a "register" link with confirmation e-mail et.c?
[06:16:37] <estan> ah i found http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin
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[06:18:24] <pkuczynski> asmodai who is responsible for defining roadmap?
[06:19:15] <asmodai> pkuczynski: A secret cabal of magicians.
[06:20:13] <asmodai> aat: Never let anyone know we're part of the cabal though!
[06:20:57] <pkuczynski> lol :)
[06:21:02] <pkuczynski> am being serious :)
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[06:21:09] <pkuczynski> i am doing ticket triagging
[06:21:27] <pkuczynski> there used to be "wiki improvements" in 0.12, but its gone
[06:21:33] <pkuczynski> so i am not sure where to assign tickets
[06:21:42] <asmodai> pkuczynski: Basically it's a discussion between cmlenz, jborg, retracile_, aat, cboos, osimons, matt_good, thatch, me
[06:21:47] <asmodai> and I am sure I forgot someone again
[06:22:13] <cmlenz> "wiki improvements" is kinda vague ;)
[06:22:57] <pkuczynski> cmlenz, maybe it ss :)
[06:23:14] <pkuczynski> but if u want me to help u and doo good triagging, u have to tell me where to stick them in :)
[06:23:18] <pkuczynski> (i mean tickets)
[06:23:30] <pkuczynski> (for example tickets about wiki) :)
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[06:23:53] <cmlenz> well, there's no one milestone where every enhancement request for wiki stuff will be implemented
[06:24:14] <asmodai> cmlenz: 2.0? the alien tech one? ;)
[06:24:36] <cmlenz> not even that
[06:24:44] <cmlenz> pkuczynski: do you have an example ticket
[06:24:45] <cmlenz> ?
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[06:26:46] <smarkovic> hi ppl
[06:27:22] <smarkovic> anyone? I have problem with SubversionException: ("Can't open file '/home/svn/repository/SEG/format': Permission denied", 13)
[06:28:11] <pkuczynski> sure, #3335
[06:29:09] <smarkovic> http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3335???
[06:29:14] <smarkovic> or??
[06:30:49] <cmlenz> pkuczynski: that's a small thing, as it's currently set to 0.11.2 I'd just move it to 0.12
[06:30:55] <cmlenz> but there's really no general rule here
[06:31:27] <pkuczynski> ok :)
[06:31:31] <pkuczynski> will try to be sensible
[06:31:49] <pkuczynski> small things 0.12, big things 1.0 - right?
[06:32:00] <asmodai> Not necessarily ;)
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[06:32:21] <pkuczynski> no? :)
[06:32:22] <cmlenz> big things mostly shouldn't have any milestone, unless someone has volunteered to work on it
[06:33:45] <pkuczynski> ah, undrestood :)
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[06:34:23] <smarkovic> hi ppl!
[06:34:32] <smarkovic> I need help
[06:34:45] <smarkovic> Trac detected an internal error:
[06:34:47] <smarkovic> SubversionException: ("Can't open file '/home/svn/repository/SEG/format': Permission denied", 13)
[06:35:15] <smarkovic> and I can't solve it, for a couple of hours now
[06:35:25] <smarkovic> anyone?
[06:35:52] <asmodai> fsfs or db4?
[06:36:01] <smarkovic> I don't know
[06:36:05] <smarkovic> I think fsfs
[06:36:18] <smarkovic> I have svn already set up
[06:36:23] <smarkovic> and huge repository
[06:36:51] <smarkovic> that's a problem, I cannot chown repository now to apache
[06:37:39] <asmodai> Have you thought about chmod or webuser as part of the repo group?
[06:38:30] <smarkovic> how to do that
[06:38:48] <smarkovic> I have apache.apache
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[06:39:07] <smarkovic> that I can change/move to another group
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[06:39:49] <asmodai> e.g. my /etc/group has a group svn, of which the user www is a member.
[06:40:05] <asmodai> and the repository is svn:svn throughout
[06:40:33] <asmodai> But that's all basic Unix system administration, seriously.
[06:40:38] <smarkovic> same for me, just tell me how to join apache user to svn group
[06:40:54] <smarkovic> in command mode
[06:41:43] <asmodai> Have you looked at /etc/group?
[06:42:14] <smarkovic> I will!
[06:42:34] <asmodai> Also, man group is quite enlightening.
[06:43:11] <smarkovic> [root@ns ~]# grep apache /etc/group
[06:43:13] <smarkovic> apache:x:48:
[06:43:17] <smarkovic> :)
[06:43:44] <asmodai> That's apache's group.
[06:43:53] <smarkovic> a-ha
[06:44:02] <smarkovic> I think I got it from the man group
[06:45:23] <asmodai> group:....:user,user,user
[06:46:31] <smarkovic> I've added svn,apache to svn:x:504:
[06:46:35] <smarkovic> so now I have svn:x:504:svn,apache
[06:46:58] <smarkovic> and for repository I have group read/write access
[06:47:03] <smarkovic> but still nothing
[06:47:18] <asmodai> did you restart the webserver?
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[06:48:21] <smarkovic> I will
[06:48:48] <smarkovic> Welcome to Trac 0.11
[06:48:50] <smarkovic> :)
[06:48:52] <smarkovic> THANX
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[06:51:42] <smarkovic> OK, I'm leaving! Thanks again asmodai!!!
[06:51:48] <asmodai> np
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[06:52:31] * asmodai needs to think about that again and if that is one of the better and secure ways to resolve it
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[07:04:16] <aat> :)
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[07:06:23] <asmodai> heya retracile
[07:15:10] <asmodai> ah
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[07:15:50] <Sixer> Hi. Can I disable Wiki changes in the timeline for everyone by default?
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[07:23:11] <doki_pen> Sixer: what does "in the timeline" mean?
[07:23:36] <asmodai> doki_pen: Timeline
[07:23:41] <asmodai> doki_pen: next to Wiki and Roadmap
[07:23:53] <gauthierm> I'm trying to install the SpamFilter plugin for 0.10.4 and I get "500 Internal Server Error (The Trac Environment needs to be upgraded)" when I enable the plugin. Is the plugin compatible with 0.10.x?
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[07:26:36] <coderanger_> Sixer: Not really
[07:26:56] <coderanger_> gauthierm: Yes, you just need to upgrade the environment
[07:27:20] <gauthierm> coderanger_: To what version?
[07:27:35] <coderanger_> Not version related, just run the command it shows you
[07:27:44] <gauthierm> ok, I'll try that.
[07:27:50] <coderanger_> trac-admin upgrade is how plugins do things like schema evolution
[07:28:03] <coderanger_> It wouldn't tell you to run that command if you didn't have to :P
[07:28:10] <retracile> hey asmodai, aat. :)
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[07:28:47] <asmodai> coderanger_: morning :D
[07:28:56] <Sixer> coderanger_: Can I break it somewhere?
[07:28:56] <coderanger_> it is a morning
[07:29:12] <coderanger_> Sixer: In the wiki module code would be the easiest
[07:29:18] <coderanger_> doable as a plugin, but painful
[07:29:42] <Sixer> It's python isn't it?
[07:29:58] <Sixer> I could perhaps comment out calls to wiki changes routines someplace
[07:30:24] <gauthierm> coderanger_: Thanks, that worked. It's just a poorly worded error message.
[07:30:52] <gauthierm> "you need to evolve your schema" would have made more sense to me :)
[07:30:58] <coderanger_> gauthierm: It says "upgrade required" and hands you the upgrade command. How is that poorly worded?
[07:31:04] <gauthierm> ^^
[07:31:15] <coderanger_> It says nothing about "upgrade Trac", just "upgrade your environment"
[07:31:36] <coderanger_> gauthierm: The upgrade extension point is generic, it can be used for adding new DB tables, or a number of other things
[07:32:13] <gauthierm> For the non trac expert those sound the same. It works really well now that I understand how it works.
[07:32:53] <coderanger_> gauthierm: Next time if an error message tells you exactly what to do, do it :P
[07:33:41] <gauthierm> coderanger_: heh
[07:34:04] <doki_pen> coderanger_: http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/3296
[07:34:21] <doki_pen> gimme gimme gimme
[07:34:41] <CareBear\> doki_pen : can't seem to reproduce after upgrading to mod_wsgi-2.0 with no other changes.
[07:34:45] <coderanger_> doki_pen: In the middle of about 12 things right now
[07:35:03] * coderanger_ gets to spend 6.5 fun filled hours on an airplane today
[07:35:28] <doki_pen> coderanger_: it would be easier to just give me root access to the box
[07:35:41] <doki_pen> CareBear\: sweet!
[07:35:47] <coderanger_> doki_pen: good luck with that
[07:35:55] <doki_pen> ;)
[07:35:57] <doki_pen> no rush
[07:36:22] <asmodai> coderanger_: to work?
[07:36:23] <doki_pen> I'll write the HackTransferOwnership plugin
[07:37:55] <doki_pen> if the owner doesn't close the ticket within 7 days, ownership is automatically transfered
[07:41:08] <doki_pen> asmodai: how does one make wiki changes in the timeline?
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[07:41:17] <doki_pen> maybe it's just a sentance sturcture problem
[07:41:37] <doki_pen> it's seems that the timeline has nothing to do with making wiki changes
[07:42:48] <pacopablo> morning
[07:43:27] <jhammel> coderanger: i was curious as to your comment on http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/3347; it seems to me that this is only a security issue if you don't trust the code in your repository. am i wrong?
[07:43:51] <coderanger_> jhammel: indeed
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[07:44:34] <pacopablo> jhammel: I wouldn't explicity trust the code on t-h.o
[07:44:57] <pacopablo> nor would I trust any code that the user could point to
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[07:45:16] <jhammel> pacopablo: nor would i; i was just thinking of a plugin for trac instances with a repository with closed access
[07:45:43] <jhammel> that is, you can't just register and upload code unless you're trusted
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[07:49:28] <estan> hm. if i stull a logo image in my_env/htdocs, what path should i use in trac.ini to reference it?
[07:49:41] <estan> (i've tried htdocs/image.png, image.png and ../../image.png)
[07:49:49] <estan> i'd like a relative URL.
[07:51:11] <pacopablo> site/image.png
[07:51:36] <estan> ah thanks.
[07:53:16] <coderanger_> jhammel: The plugin still seems very specific to Trac plugin development. PyPI uploads already works fine so I would really just use that
[07:54:38] <jhammel> coderanger_: i'm thinking to the ends of trac as a package index, which is something i would like to see, though not one of my immediate goals
[07:55:14] <coderanger_> jhammel: TracPI will work on the same model as PyPI, authors upload eggs and other download media
[07:55:26] <coderanger_> jhammel: It is the only scalable way to handle that
[07:58:58] <kjs> Hum the version of track im running does now have the web admin module.
[07:59:04] <kjs> is it possible to add this ?
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[08:06:16] <Topper1> hi folks
[08:06:50] <rbd> is it possible to bulk accept tickets? (trac-admin doesn't seem to have the option)
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[08:07:48] <Topper1> http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/BatchModifyPlugin might be useful, rbd
[08:08:28] <rbd> Topper1: thanks