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July 12, 2008

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[01:08:53] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: WebAdmin/var/www/cm/oar_notify.php created <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin/var/www/cm/oar_notify.php?version=1>
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[01:25:08] <thm> osimons: ping
[01:25:17] <osimons> thm: pong
[01:25:46] * asmodai steals the ball
[01:25:50] <thm> hm. any idea how I can, in a plugin detect whether r7238 was applied or not?
[01:27:15] <thm> the point is, in tracnav, I'm subclassing the onelinerformatter, in order to get a list of links in the line formatted by it
[01:27:31] <thm> and the only method I'm overwriting is _make_link
[01:27:54] <coderanger> thm: Require that version in setup.py?
[01:28:41] <osimons> thm: does it not work without that fix, or are you replacing code?
[01:29:02] <thm> osimons: the amount of method args has changed...
[01:29:12] <thm> coderanger: that would mean branching the plugin for 0.12 or 0.11.1
[01:29:38] <osimons> thm: then count the args for your method of that is needed, or just use **kwargs and read of the dict?
[01:29:59] <osimons> sorry, *args i suppose
[01:30:17] <thm> hm, might work
[01:30:33] <coderanger> Look at how we do it for request handlers
[01:30:42] <coderanger> I think there is a utility function for this somewhere
[01:31:00] <osimons> yes, it is called 'arity' in a util somewhere
[01:31:12] <osimons> it counts metod arguments
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[01:31:19] <thm> thx, will look for it
[01:32:26] <osimons> thm: trac.util.__init__.arity()
[01:32:44] <osimons> it just returns func_code.co_argcount
[01:34:04] <osimons> thm: it you just need to call 'super', then do your input as *args, read of what you need, and pass them on as *args.
[01:34:44] <coderanger> or that
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[01:38:11] <thm> ok
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[03:21:53] <thm> how do I link from another trac to a revision in trac's own wiki? something like trac:revision:1234 ?
[03:26:20] <aat> read up on intertrac links
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[03:34:26] <thm> trac:[1234:1235] is not working
[03:35:21] <thm> [trac:[1234:1235]] however is
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[03:44:55] <thm> someone should make up a grammer for all these sorts of inter/intra/whatever trac links
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[04:05:17] <thm> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall has some strange attachments btw
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[04:53:06] <asmodai> thm: Not as strange as another one I removed yesterday
[04:53:08] <asmodai> They're gone.
[04:53:10] <asmodai> Cheers.
[04:54:42] <thm> yeah, it had an interesting name ;)
[04:54:53] <asmodai> leatherslave.jpg
[04:56:25] <thm> is trac:[1234:1235] or trac:[1234-1235] supposed to work?
[04:57:21] <asmodai> for what?
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[04:57:42] <asmodai> and have you checked:
[04:57:43] <asmodai> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLinks
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[04:59:28] <thm> as in intertrac link
[04:59:39] <thm> well, that page really needs some cleanup
[05:02:21] <thm> or rather, some more formalism
[05:05:07] <thm> but this is an ongoing topic no one seems really interested it
[05:05:08] <thm> in
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[05:10:36] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7341 (While I was trying to attach a .html file on the existing ticket, I found ...) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7341#comment:5> || TracSubversion edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracSubversion?version=59>
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[05:40:50] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracDev/DevelopmentWithEclipseAndPyDev edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/DevelopmentWithEclipseAndPyDev?version=3>
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[05:52:26] <asmodai> retracile!
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[06:06:51] <Brayn> hey, I'm having some problems with my trac install
[06:07:16] <Brayn> I use mod_python and after I modify httpd.conf I get a 500 browser error...
[06:08:07] <grumpy> Brayn: What version of mod_python? Have you looked in Apache error log files for messages in there?
[06:08:42] <Brayn> Package mod_python - 3.2.8-3.1.i386
[06:09:31] <grumpy> Latest is mod_python 3.3.1. For a start, recommend you upgrade, old versions have bugs and in some cases you can get 500 error but it will not log why. What did the log files say?
[06:10:24] <Brayn> just a sec
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[06:14:09] <Brayn> [Sat Jul 12 16:15:45 2008] [error] [client 84.232.187.82] PythonHandler trac.web.modpython_frontend: ExtractionError: Can't extract file(s) to egg cache\n\nThe following error occurred while trying to extract file(s) to the Python egg\ncache:\n\n [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/www/.python-eggs'\n\nThe Python egg cache directory is currently set to:\n\n /var/www/.python-eggs\n\nPerhaps your account does not have write access to this directory? You can\nch
[06:15:23] <Brayn> thing is I have set in httpd.conf: SetEnv PYTHON_EGG_CACHE /some/folder/with/write/access
[06:16:46] <grumpy> But is the directory writable to user that Apache runs as, not yourself?
[06:16:58] <Brayn> chown apache.apache
[06:17:06] <Brayn> i even tried chmod 777 on it
[06:17:45] <Brayn> other problem is that it says that the cache is set to /var/www/.python-eggs
[06:18:00] <Brayn> and in httpd.conf I set another directory
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[06:24:19] <grumpy> Have you double checked context in Apache configuration where it was set and that it is set for correct Location as trac defined for? Did you do a full stop and start of Apache and not just a 'reload' or 'restart'?
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[06:25:26] <Brayn> I've done both a restart and a stop/start
[06:25:42] <Brayn> the path to the trac env is correct, also the path to the tmp file
[06:26:54] <Brayn> here is my httpd.conf Location for thrac http://pastebin.com/d36fca229
[06:28:30] <grumpy> Not that it matters for this issue, but 'PythonInterpreter main' is wrong. You probably mean 'main_interpreter'. Other than that looks okay.
[06:30:04] <Brayn> I used the sample from the install guide: PythonInterpreter main_interpreter
[06:30:33] <grumpy> That isn't what you put in the paste bin says.
[06:31:13] <Brayn> true, i've change it now, restarted apache
[06:31:21] <Brayn> it still gives me 500
[06:32:12] <grumpy> As I said, wouldn't matter for this issue.
[06:33:01] <Brayn> any other thoughts besides updating python?...
[06:36:26] <grumpy> Don't believe updating mod_python would help in this case. Only other suggestion is that it may be more predictable or at least easier to debug if using mod_wsgi instead. :-)
[06:37:05] <Brayn> :))
[06:37:20] <Brayn> how bit of a deal would I be if I'd just run the standalone server ?
[06:38:37] <grumpy> Running tracd is also a reasonable solution.
[06:39:18] <Brayn> It's a small project anyway so I don't think it would matter so much
[06:39:25] <Brayn> thanks for your time :)
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[08:14:46] <asmodai> retracile: :D
[08:14:54] <retracile> hey asmodai :)
[08:15:03] <asmodai> heya
[08:15:11] <retracile> I'm actually making a little time to work on Trac this morning...
[08:15:19] <retracile> would have been more, but Fedora9's a mess. :( :(
[08:16:14] <asmodai> Duh comes to mind.
[08:16:28] <retracile> F8 wasn't such a mess.
[08:16:52] <asmodai> Someone's helping me clarify some of my el_GR translations. :)
[08:17:00] <asmodai> And subsequently I understand more of Greek :)
[08:17:00] <retracile> Cool :)
[08:17:04] <asmodai> native greek helping++
[08:17:13] <retracile> excellent. :)
[08:17:17] <asmodai> retracile: Just minor mistakes I've made though.
[08:17:54] <retracile> I wouldn't have expected major mistakes from you. ;)
[08:19:07] <asmodai> retracile: Still, I am not that familiar with Greek.
[08:19:26] <asmodai> retracile: But I only add tentative translations of what I am relatively certain about.
[08:19:32] <asmodai> Leaving grammar for a second
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[08:22:00] <asmodai> retracile: wow, quite a fair number of installs in greece
[08:22:08] <asmodai> retracile: site:.gr Trac on Google
[08:26:35] <retracile> asmodai: nice :)
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[08:28:00] <akdom1> I'm having some trouble setting up the TracPygments plugin, can someone lend me a hand?
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[08:34:25] <retracile> @ask
[08:34:25] <evil_twin> retracile: "ask" is don't ask to ask, just ask
[08:34:42] <retracile> eh, not quite what I was after..
[08:35:16] <retracile> akdom1: if you have a specific question, go ahead and ask... we might be able to help
[08:37:52] <akdom1> well, I've been trying to install the plugin, but it has not .egg file as the plugins sections states to hand the setup.py script, and I can't seem to figure out how to configure it manually... I'm obviously missing something here.
[08:38:42] <retracile> So what are you working with if not an egg file? A subversion checkout of the plugin?
[08:39:31] <akdom1> the equivelant, yes
[08:40:00] <retracile> What OS / distribution are you using?
[08:40:20] <akdom1> it's something on the order of CentOS 4
[08:40:56] <retracile> heh. 'k. Does 'python setup.py bdist_egg' create a .egg file in a dist subdirectory?
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[08:42:00] <akdom1> heh... I was reading "bdist_egg" as place your egg here...
[08:42:01] <akdom1> meh...
[08:42:02] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: 0.11/TracOnUbuntu edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracOnUbuntu?version=18> || Changeset [7347]: Fix some minor grammer issues. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7347>
[08:42:04] <akdom1> yes, it does
[08:45:03] <retracile> good. Can you take it from there?
[08:45:22] <akdom1> hopefully... but I may be on later
[08:45:28] <akdom1> we shall see...
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[09:12:15] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7348]: More Greek fixes. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7348>
[09:15:25] <aat> it's all greek to me
[09:15:39] <retracile> aat: boooo ;)
[09:15:45] <aat> ;)
[09:16:04] <retracile> asmodai: any ideas on http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6930 ?
[09:16:10] <retracile> aat: how're you doing?
[09:16:22] <aat> not too shabby eli, you?
[09:16:45] <retracile> asmodai: I figured you might have a better understanding of what's going on there...
[09:17:15] <retracile> aat: Doing ok. Way too busy, as always. But finally making some time to work on Trac... it's been a while.
[09:18:27] <aat> awesome :)
[09:18:34] <aat> how's the family?
[09:19:38] <retracile> aat: Growing. :) Samuel isn't quite walking yet, but I'd swear he can sprint on all fours.
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[09:20:34] <asmodai> retracile: ok, so apparently some string contains \xe1
[09:20:46] <retracile> aat: I'm also excited about getting the FreeRunner phone (openmoko)... and reenacting http://xkcd.com/281/
[09:20:56] <asmodai> retracile: and wherever it's being output to is doing an encode() to ASCII
[09:21:06] <asmodai> retracile: but ASCII cannot cope with \xe1
[09:21:12] <aat> retracile: heh
[09:21:19] <asmodai> retracile: most likely you miss an encode('utf8') somewhere
[09:21:27] <aat> samuel sounds like he'll be troublesome when he learns to walk
[09:21:49] <retracile> aat: "when"? What d'ya mean "when"?! He's trouble already!
[09:22:10] <asmodai> The scary part of xkcd is that I often go: oh, I did that too.
[09:22:15] <asmodai> And then realize: errrrrrr....
[09:22:25] <retracile> asmodai: hehe :)
[09:23:41] <asmodai> retracile: that fix makes sense
[09:24:03] <asmodai> especially for stdout
[09:24:30] * asmodai once wrote about Python's stdout encoding and redirection that loses encoding when not explicitly set
[09:24:34] <asmodai> or something like that
[09:26:08] <retracile> Any suggestions of a better way to do it?
[09:27:07] <asmodai> Not immediately. if you're using stdout you need to get the preferred encoding
[09:27:17] <asmodai> since it might be utf-8, might also be different
[09:27:25] <asmodai> so you need to encode properly
[09:28:22] <retracile> Ok.
[09:51:51] <retracile> Well, I must run off to lunch. *sigh* not enough Trac time. :(
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[10:36:09] <kol_panic> coderanger, I see some interest in multi-project support on the mailing list. Anything on the slate?
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[12:38:07] <roh> gah... now i got 'too many recipients' .. narf.. trac and mailman do not play along nicely
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[14:14:22] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #6835 (XHTML served as text/html, causes rendering problems) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6835#comment:2>
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[14:29:31] <toolskyn> hey all, I want to move a trac environment to another directory, are there any objections to just moving the folder with mv?
[14:30:46] <roh> switch it off while doing?
[14:30:51] <roh> the trac..
[14:31:31] <roh> watch the permissions.. besides that... not really...
[14:31:51] <roh> only if you have external scripts which need their environment-config updated then
[14:32:31] <toolskyn> nope nothing but the default install, so I'll just move it then :)
[14:34:35] <toolskyn> *cheer* works like a charm
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[16:31:59] <coderanger> asmodai: Hah, I see the thread you were talking about on the genshi list >_<
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[16:33:03] <blackthorne> ih
[16:33:21] <blackthorne> does trac allow people to edit files directly from the web?
[16:37:16] <coderanger> Files in version control? No
[16:37:26] <ricky> 19:33:45 < RudyValencia> Here in the US it's probably available to locksmiths.
[16:37:26] <ricky> 19:34:03 < nicho_> Licensed locksmiths are virtually unlimited in what they can have.
[16:37:39] <ricky> Oops, sorry about that
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[17:08:44] <s0undt3ch> can I provide subfolder for my template folder?
[17:09:07] <s0undt3ch> ie, return 'help/my_template.html', data, None?
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[18:18:04] <roh> coderanger there?
[18:20:03] <nOgAnOo> I am?
[18:20:07] <nOgAnOo> err.
[18:20:16] <nOgAnOo> Just ignore me.. I am wasted.
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[21:50:38] <pacopablo> coderanger: ping
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