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August 16, 2008

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[00:39:51] <asmodai> coderanger: jesus
[00:40:00] <asmodai> coderanger: patch of ~1,5 GB? :)
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[00:53:22] <eyecue> coderanger; sexy :) i used an online one in the meantime
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[01:20:54] <coderanger> asmodai: Thats about 6 weeks of development in a single hit
[01:24:44] <asmodai> coderanger: aha
[01:24:55] <asmodai> coderanger: I still have 700 MB left to download :)
[01:25:07] <asmodai> coderanger: a transfer rate indicator would rock btw
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[01:25:21] <asmodai> coderanger: I had to restart at one point since it stalled apparently
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[01:26:13] <coderanger> asmodai: transfer rate is hard to calculate, since the size shown on the page is uncompressed, but it automatically transfers compressed bindiffs
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[01:27:02] <coderanger> so the actual data speed has a very variable relation to the end product
[01:27:49] <asmodai> Ach so
[01:28:24] <asmodai> coderanger: ok, at least add that part that it gives feedback on checking the already downloaded stuff
[01:28:36] <coderanger> hmm?
[01:28:41] <asmodai> e.g.
[01:28:46] <asmodai> I just downloaded 750 MB
[01:28:46] <coderanger> that takes no more than a second
[01:28:52] <asmodai> not for me
[01:29:05] <asmodai> I quit the launcher
[01:29:17] <asmodai> start it again and it's busy for a minute or more with something
[01:29:24] <asmodai> I see disk access happening
[01:29:26] <coderanger> odd
[01:29:30] <asmodai> and then it resumes the patching
[01:30:36] <coderanger> it doesn't actually re-verify the data, so i don't know what took it quite that long
[01:30:56] <asmodai> it's been doing it like this all along for me
[01:31:01] <asmodai> mmm
[01:31:04] * asmodai tests something
[01:31:11] * eyecue cries at accountmanager
[01:31:29] <coderanger> asmodai: try disabling antivirus protection
[01:31:31] <coderanger> eyecue: hmm?
[01:31:36] <asmodai> coderanger: was just going to do that actually
[01:31:48] <eyecue> older version requires webadmin, which is not required for 0.11
[01:32:01] <coderanger> eyecue: what older version
[01:32:16] <coderanger> there is a 0.10 branch, if thats what you mean
[01:32:16] <eyecue> um, the version for 0.10
[01:32:22] <coderanger> but you can't use that on 0.11
[01:32:29] <eyecue> yah, that is, but im running 0.11, and the freebsd port pulls webadmin :)
[01:32:33] <eyecue> i know :D
[01:32:37] <eyecue> hence the crying
[01:32:49] <coderanger> there is a port for accountmanager?
[01:32:52] <eyecue> yah
[01:32:56] <asmodai> :)
[01:33:02] <eyecue> :]
[01:33:04] <coderanger> That seems unnecessary
[01:33:14] <eyecue> the ports use setuptools/easy_install
[01:33:15] <coderanger> Its one command to install, and it only touches two files
[01:33:30] <eyecue> code; good for integration into a management system
[01:33:39] <coderanger> what management system?
[01:33:44] <coderanger> you install it and forget about it
[01:33:48] <eyecue> application
[01:34:10] <coderanger> there is no need to use a packaging framework with trac plugins
[01:34:19] <coderanger> people just think it will make life easier
[01:34:27] <coderanger> really using easy_install is fine
[01:34:40] <coderanger> just dump the eggs in the env's plugins/ folder
[01:34:48] <coderanger> that way you don't alter any system folders
[01:34:50] <eyecue> code; does easy_sintall normally install into system wide site_packages, or local dirs?
[01:34:57] <eyecue> yah, was about to ask
[01:35:19] <coderanger> eyecue: easy_install -d env/plugins http://trac-hacks.org/svn/accountmanagerplugin/0.11
[01:35:22] <coderanger> done
[01:35:36] <eyecue> :]
[01:35:46] <coderanger> trac will automatically enable the plugin, all you have to do is configure it
[01:35:48] <eyecue> ta
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[01:36:42] <eyecue> TEST FAILED: plugins does NOT support .pth files :D
[01:37:00] <coderanger> sorry
[01:37:02] <coderanger> -md
[01:37:04] <eyecue> can i force that?
[01:37:13] <eyecue> m is ?
[01:37:36] * eyecue goes to check url
[01:37:48] <coderanger> multi-version, skips the .pth stuff
[01:37:56] <eyecue> i suppose i want /trunk :}
[01:38:01] <eyecue> no 0.11 dir
[01:38:07] <coderanger> which is fine, since we use the pkg_resources API directly anyway
[01:38:08] <eyecue> branch rather
[01:38:15] <coderanger> ahh, stupid matt having to be difference
[01:38:17] <coderanger> :P
[01:38:25] <eyecue> trunk is ok?
[01:38:31] <coderanger> yeah
[01:38:35] <eyecue> swoit :]
[01:38:38] <coderanger> thats the 0.11 version
[01:38:49] <eyecue> matt = ?
[01:39:13] <coderanger> matt_good, the author of acct_mgr
[01:39:20] <eyecue> ah :]
[01:39:33] <eyecue> ah yes
[01:39:38] <eyecue> same error as when i did a manual easy_install
[01:39:39] <eyecue> NameError: global name 'log' is not defined
[01:40:06] <coderanger> grr
[01:40:07] <eyecue> can give full output if req'd
[01:40:09] <eyecue> :]
[01:40:15] <coderanger> setuptools doesn't work with svn 1.5
[01:40:17] <coderanger> one sec
[01:40:21] <eyecue> heh :]
[01:40:41] <coderanger> (there is a patch on the python bug tracker if you care)
[01:40:50] <eyecue> patch to setup tools?
[01:40:59] <eyecue> id need to patch the port :]
[01:41:08] <eyecue> and sent in a pr
[01:41:09] <coderanger> or just patch your install
[01:41:13] <eyecue> s/sent/send
[01:41:16] <eyecue> this is true :]
[01:42:13] <eyecue> mm, ive got 0.6c8 atm
[01:42:20] <coderanger> if you do a svn export of the URL (instead of a co), easy_install will work on the folder
[01:42:35] <coderanger> eyecue: There is no version of setuptools that works with svn 15 WCs right now
[01:42:41] <eyecue> without the patch that is ?
[01:42:47] <coderanger> right
[01:42:55] <eyecue> cool, its borking on the svn files?
[01:43:10] <coderanger> yes, it can't parse WC data
[01:43:19] <coderanger> why this is a fatal error, I have no idea
[01:43:25] <eyecue> roger that, so export trunk into dir, run easy install -md on that dir, delete dir
[01:43:29] <eyecue> *nods*
[01:43:30] <coderanger> yeah
[01:44:55] <eyecue> Processing dependencies for TracAccountManager==0.2.1dev
[01:44:56] <eyecue> Finished processing dependencies for TracAccountManager==0.2.1dev
[01:44:57] <eyecue> <3
[01:46:23] <eyecue> mmm, know off hand id acc_mgr stillr equires clearsilver ?
[01:46:27] <eyecue> s/id/if
[01:49:45] <asmodai> coderanger: I'm tracing it with process monitor
[01:49:54] <asmodai> coderanger: it's actually doing nothing for about a minute
[01:49:59] <coderanger> eyecue: Not the 0.11 version
[01:50:04] <eyecue> awesome :D
[01:50:15] <coderanger> asmodai: hmm, this is before it shows the GUI?
[01:50:28] <asmodai> no, when it shows the GUI
[01:50:32] <asmodai> coderanger: want the output?
[01:50:36] <coderanger> sure
[01:51:31] <asmodai> let me filter some more
[01:52:01] <eyecue> oh yeah :D
[01:52:48] <asmodai> coderanger: what format? PML (process monitor), CSV, XML
[01:53:09] <coderanger> csv is probably easiest since I am on a mac
[01:53:17] <asmodai> k
[01:53:18] <asmodai> moment
[01:54:33] <eyecue> mm no admin panels
[01:54:53] <coderanger> eyecue: you have TRAC_ADMIN perms?
[01:54:57] <eyecue> indeed
[01:55:06] <eyecue> webadmin.* enabled
[01:55:11] <coderanger> remove that
[01:55:13] <eyecue> acct_mgr.* = enabled
[01:55:16] <coderanger> it will break things
[01:55:17] <asmodai> coderanger: http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/trace.zip
[01:55:17] <eyecue> o_O
[01:55:23] <eyecue> update wiki on site then?
[01:55:30] <coderanger> eyecue: what wiki?
[01:55:35] <eyecue> edgwalls
[01:55:41] <asmodai> coderanger: look around sequence 100268
[01:55:43] <eyecue> Enabling the Plugin section of http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WebAdmin
[01:55:57] <coderanger> eyecue: There is no WebAdmin plugin in 0.11
[01:56:09] <coderanger> which is bold at the top of the page
[01:56:16] <eyecue> right, then the page needs renaming to WebAdminPlugin ?
[01:56:27] <coderanger> No
[01:56:27] <eyecue> i had assumed the WebAdmin wiki page was on the integrated webadmin functionality since 0.11
[01:56:33] <coderanger> there is no such thing as WebAdmin at all
[01:56:37] <eyecue> right
[01:56:40] <eyecue> ambiguity is win.
[01:56:46] <eyecue> but cool :)
[01:56:58] <coderanger> It says in big bold letters that it isn't needed
[01:57:14] <eyecue> the plugin no, didnt know it didnt have to be specifically enabled
[01:57:33] <coderanger> Did you have to enable any other core part of Trac? :P
[01:57:44] <eyecue> you rest your case.
[01:57:45] <eyecue> :]
[01:57:50] <eyecue> [components]
[01:57:50] <eyecue> trac.web.auth.LoginModule = disabled
[01:57:50] <eyecue> acct_mgr.* = enabled
[01:57:50] <eyecue> acct_mgr.web_ui.RegistrationModule = disabled
[01:57:51] <eyecue> is ok ?
[01:57:59] <coderanger> looks normal to me
[01:58:09] <eyecue> 2008/08/16 18:57:59 [error] 40926#0: *3 HTTPNotFound: 404 Not Found (No administration panels available)
[01:58:24] <eyecue> perhaps i need to explcitly turn on acc_mgr's admin thingo
[01:59:15] <coderanger> nope
[02:00:42] <eyecue> just confirmed im trac_admin
[02:01:04] <coderanger> do you see any admin panels?
[02:01:11] <eyecue> i get a 500
[02:01:44] <coderanger> with or without acctmgr, you should see the normal trac admin panels
[02:02:12] <eyecue> without acc mgr, i didnt have auth
[02:02:40] <eyecue> i have an Admin link in th eman nav, that points to /admin
[02:02:49] <eyecue> oh wait.
[02:02:50] <eyecue> Warning: Your permissions have been limited until you verify your email address
[02:02:52] <eyecue> o_O
[02:03:06] <coderanger> you might want to disable that
[02:03:33] <eyecue> downsides of enabling *
[02:03:33] <eyecue> :]
[02:03:42] <coderanger> acct_mgr.web_ui.EmailVerificationModule = disabled
[02:04:15] <coderanger> asmodai: hah, Numbers can't even open it, file is too big >_<
[02:04:16] <eyecue> hehe, <3
[02:04:31] * coderanger tries neoofice
[02:05:46] <eyecue> coderanger; take its ok if i disable mysql and sqlite connectors from admin if im using pg ?
[02:05:55] <coderanger> no reason to
[02:06:04] <eyecue> makes 0 difference ?
[02:06:13] <asmodai> too big? heh
[02:06:16] <coderanger> might save a few bytes of memory
[02:06:30] <eyecue> :]
[02:06:39] <coderanger> asmodai: neooffice (OO.o) can't parse it either laaaaaame
[02:06:48] <coderanger> luckly textmate handles it just fine
[02:06:53] <eyecue> very nice 28mb per nginx process :}
[02:06:54] <asmodai> jeez
[02:09:48] <coderanger> asmodai: What does the status message (below the progress bar) say while it is stalled?
[02:09:55] <eyecue> ahh, so nice.
[02:10:04] <eyecue> "that stays out of the way" <--
[02:10:18] <asmodai> coderanger: Patching
[02:11:13] <asmodai> shows version
[02:11:22] <asmodai> you know, that PM thing
[02:11:25] <asmodai> then Patching
[02:11:30] <asmodai> Cancel button is clickable
[02:11:30] <coderanger> hmm, I shall have to investigate on monday
[02:11:38] <asmodai> no progress indicator movement
[02:11:41] <asmodai> no other text messages
[02:12:02] <asmodai> coderanger: it was a bit faster this time around
[02:12:25] <asmodai> coderanger: 20 seconds or so
[02:12:37] <asmodai> no sorry, 30 secs
[02:13:02] <asmodai> the first write to bins.hogg says: FAST IO DISALLOWED
[02:13:22] <asmodai> and then they're all SUCCESS
[02:13:26] <coderanger> I don't know if thats actually an error
[02:13:31] <coderanger> might be normal
[02:13:39] <asmodai> yeah, not sure either
[02:13:43] <eyecue> ah crap, i didnt bookmark that page
[02:13:52] <asmodai> coderanger: but 30 secs is too long?
[02:14:41] <coderanger> hard to tell, it might just be high latency to our DC on the initial connection
[02:14:49] <eyecue> ahh -> http://garrettdimon.com/archives/2007/8/14/bug_issue_tracking/
[02:14:49] <asmodai> could be yes
[02:15:07] <eyecue> i found it lended well to the lightweight philosophy of trac
[02:15:20] <asmodai> coderanger: oh well, perhaps it's nothing, just wanted to make sure :)
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[02:18:05] * asmodai applies for a job at Cryptic for the sole purpose to harass coderanger
[02:18:27] <asmodai> Seems Triumph around here is working on Overlord II
[02:18:56] <coderanger> Did anyone actually play the first one?
[02:19:37] <asmodai> oh yes
[02:19:40] <asmodai> aat and me :P
[02:19:49] <asmodai> controls on PC were a pain in the ass
[02:19:54] <asmodai> but the humour is great
[02:20:02] <asmodai> written by Prachett's daughter actually
[02:20:38] <asmodai> coderanger: I actually started playing Warcraft 3 again
[02:20:46] <asmodai> next to some Team Fortress 2
[02:22:22] <asmodai> coderanger: http://steamcommunity.com/id/asmodai/stats/TF2 :)
[02:22:24] <coderanger> asmodai: what is your latency to 64.71.145.34
[02:22:39] <coderanger> hah, I still can't get in to TF2
[02:22:47] <coderanger> I just die within about 10 seconds of logging in
[02:23:44] <asmodai> Reply from 64.71.145.34: bytes=32 time=178ms TTL=120
[02:23:44] <asmodai> Reply from 64.71.145.34: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=120
[02:23:44] <asmodai> Reply from 64.71.145.34: bytes=32 time=172ms TTL=120
[02:23:45] <asmodai> Reply from 64.71.145.34: bytes=32 time=179ms TTL=120
[02:24:01] <asmodai> Minimum = 172ms, Maximum = 179ms, Average = 175ms
[02:24:07] <asmodai> let me average it over 100 pings
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[02:26:35] <eyecue> good little read that arty
[02:28:07] <asmodai> Minimum = 171ms, Maximum = 241ms, Average = 176ms
[02:28:14] <coderanger> asmodai: I get ~20ms from here and ~43ms from my VPS box in TX
[02:28:27] <coderanger> so thats a pretty big jump :-/
[02:29:04] <asmodai> well
[02:29:27] <coderanger> I should probably look at reducing the number of places it does a full round-trip cycle
[02:30:04] <asmodai> gah
[02:31:31] <asmodai> ok
[02:31:35] <asmodai> coderanger: client updated and works
[02:31:51] <coderanger> asmodai: now just wait 11 hours :-)
[02:31:58] <asmodai> hehe
[02:31:59] <asmodai> yea
[02:32:11] <asmodai> I got TF2 ;)
[02:32:29] <asmodai> and grocery shopping
[02:32:31] <asmodai> and laundry
[02:32:34] <asmodai> and, and, and
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[02:37:47] <asmodai> coderanger: btw, I really love Blizzard cinematographics
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[02:42:06] <asmodai> coderanger: the guys who do that for them are really talented imho
[02:46:29] <eyecue> coderanger; are the download links on http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/IniAdminPlugin incorrect?
[02:46:39] <eyecue> my bad, forget i asked that.
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[02:48:50] <asmodai> I think he passed out
[02:48:55] <eyecue> :]
[02:49:22] <asmodai> although he normally tends to announce it
[02:50:02] <eyecue> gah @ svn files
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[03:15:01] <coderanger> not quite asleep yet
[03:15:05] <coderanger> though shortly
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[03:19:13] <asmodai> coderanger: hehehe
[03:19:21] * asmodai shoots coderanger with a tranquilize
[03:19:22] <asmodai> r
[03:19:25] <szabgab> how can I setup a trac changes mailing list?
[03:20:02] <szabgab> the notify thingy seems to be only for ticket reporter or changers,
[03:20:26] <szabgab> I'd like to have a mailing list for every change, including wiki changes
[03:23:38] <eyecue> szabgab; dont quote me on it, but you can configure an always_cc address for all changes
[03:23:45] <eyecue> i think you can anyway
[03:23:57] <eyecue> smtp_always_bcc
[03:24:57] <eyecue> http://buildbot.net/trac/wiki/TracNotification speaks about it
[03:25:07] <szabgab> but will it send all changes or only the onese that are sent anyway?
[03:25:20] <eyecue> it mentions a convenient way to email all changes
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[03:31:33] <szabgab> I'll give it a try
[03:32:11] <eyecue> apologies for the non-definitive answer :)
[03:47:10] <szabgab> another question in the meantime:
[03:47:42] <szabgab> how can I make the ticket chnages show up on the timeline?
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[04:03:55] <szabgab> eyecue: the _cc thing does not work for wiki changes:-(
[04:04:09] <xkpe> trac does not support authentication? i have to rely on the webserver?
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[04:28:07] <osimons> xkpe: correct, or use the accountmanager plugin
[04:28:08] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers?version=728>
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[05:08:41] <ashura> Hallo, i have some throuble with trac. I want it to access my svn repository (which is not public, it requires authentication) is there a way to configure trac to use the repository?
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[06:03:12] <ashura> Hallo, is there a way to setup trac to authenticate itself to my svn repository?
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[07:28:00] <osimons> ashura: sure. you can't do that - trac can only read from local filesystem, so it won't connect to an external svn
[07:28:50] <osimons> as long as it exists on local filesystem, or a shared readable file system, use the repository_dir setting to point to the location
[07:29:03] <ashura> but it still hasn't access since when i changed my svnauthz to inhibit read access to /
[07:31:03] <osimons> well, trac has access - it is synced into the db. you as a user browsing trac may not have permission if that is what the authz config implies
[07:31:38] <ashura> uhm..
[07:31:40] <osimons> ashura: if you can't read /, you can't browse the repos
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[07:32:01] <ashura> i use the same account setup i use to commit/update on the repository
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[07:32:19] <ashura> so my account should have read/write/everything
[07:32:30] <osimons> and you are logged into trac?
[07:34:55] <osimons> if you temporarily remove the svn_authz_file (?) setting in trac.ini (ie no permission restrictions), can you then browse your repos?
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[07:54:17] <ashura> found the glitch
[07:54:37] <ashura> i added my user to have read permission to /
[07:54:38] <ashura> :D
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[08:29:54] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers?version=729>
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[08:40:59] <beasty> morning
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[10:50:27] <haggis> Does anyone know why I get both a 401 Unauthorized and a 200 OK answer when trying to access the XMLRPC-plugin server?
[10:50:46] <haggis> Like so: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/82410/
[10:51:04] <haggis> authorization through my web browser works fine
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[11:02:13] <beasty> haggis: that kinda sucks
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[11:17:54] <haggis> beasty: indeed
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[11:48:23] <osimons> coderanger: around?
[11:48:38] <coderanger> for a momne
[11:48:39] <coderanger> t
[11:52:51] <osimons> ah - just cleaned some chages at t.e.o (junk). do i also note something in the spamfilter?
[11:53:18] <osimons> ie, do we mark as spam etc.?
[11:55:33] <coderanger> Sure, it'l train the filter a bit more
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