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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7541 (found! new bug) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7541> |
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<vraa> |
hello! i have a easy question, can i use trac to keep version control of files like pdf's and other non-text/source-code files? |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7541 (found! new bug) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7541#comment:1> |
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<kazer_> |
hello there |
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<kazer_> |
trac doesn't seem to send mail notifications, although i do have [notification] configured. i certainly did something wrong, but i can't find what |
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<asmodai> |
vraa: no |
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<kazer_> |
i have no trace of a mail being sent in my postfix logs |
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<asmodai> |
vraa: Trac is only a browser frontend to a Subversion (or other VCS) repository. |
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<asmodai> |
It does not do any checkin/checkout itself. |
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<asmodai> |
kazer_: have you tried turning on logging? See if it helps? |
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<vraa> |
thanks |
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<vraa> |
i think i understand the difference |
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<vraa> |
i will ask in subversion now, bye! |
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<kazer_> |
asmodai, here's what i get in trac.log : http://pastebin.com/m62f8e8d6 |
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<asmodai> |
well, at least we know it is causing a traceback |
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<asmodai> |
question is why |
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<kazer_> |
and it's not really verbose about it.. |
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<kazer_> |
well. have to go, i'll bbl |
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<ktk> |
hi everyone |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: TracUsers edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers?version=734> || TracUsers edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers?version=733> || TracUsers edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers?version=732> |
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<john-c-femiani> |
Somebody told me Trac was considering moving its documentation out of the Wiki -- is that true? |
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<asmodai> |
john-c-femiani: yes |
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<john-c-femiani> |
Why? |
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<asmodai> |
wiki is tough to maintain proper documentation |
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<john-c-femiani> |
Is it because anybody can change it? |
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<john-c-femiani> |
(unless you set permissions right (?) ) |
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<asmodai> |
Also, but also because you lose sight of coherency |
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<john-c-femiani> |
What does that mean? |
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<asmodai> |
the documentation is scared over a lot of pages, sometimes contradicting, sometimes duplicating |
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<john-c-femiani> |
So how will the documentation be managed? |
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<asmodai> |
reST files, and then hung into the wiki, IIRC |
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<john-c-femiani> |
So what is the difference between a bunch of RST files and a bunch of Wiki pages? |
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<asmodai> |
Ever tried to do proper documentation authoring with both? |
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<john-c-femiani> |
Nope |
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<asmodai> |
well, it's easier to maintain files than wiki pages |
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<asmodai> |
editors are a bit easier to work with than textareas in a browser |
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<asmodai> |
Although with it's all text it might be a bit easier |
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<john-c-femiani> |
What kinds of things would the wiki be approriate for then? |
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<john-c-femiani> |
(btw - thanks for the explanations) |
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<ts__> |
Is it possible to use Microsoft SourceSafe as version-control system in trac ? |
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<dlublink> |
How do I block trac from sending emails to certain addresses when the outgoing mail server is shared and other users can send to the address? |
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<Pokshun> |
While creating a new ticket, I would like the ticket to be automatically assigned to the person who creates it, how do I do that? |
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<webPragmatist> |
hey guys can someone help me fix my trac post commit hook... I have version 10.3 and it says Warning: 'post-commit' hook failed with error output: |
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<webPragmatist> |
i made sure the script was executable |
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<webPragmatist> |
should the variable trac_env be file:///path/to/repos ? |
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<webPragmatist> |
http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/tags/trac-0.10.3/contrib/trac-post-commit-hook |
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<pacopablo> |
webPragmatist: no, it should just be an absolute path |
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<pacopablo> |
you can drop the file:// |
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<pacopablo> |
and it's not the path to the repos, but the path to the trac environment |
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<webPragmatist> |
oh duh that's what i have |
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<webPragmatist> |
http://paste.mycodenow.com/view/cd074e88 |
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<webPragmatist> |
bleh i may know whats wrong |
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<webPragmatist> |
-rw-r-xr-x heh |
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<nicomen> |
is there some way of speeding up searches in trac? |
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<john-c-femiani> |
Do trac macros from 0.10 not work with .11? |
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<webPragmatist> |
that didn't work :( |
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<webPragmatist> |
pacopablo: any ideas? |
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<pacopablo> |
webPragmatist: nope, looks fine. probably an environment/perissions issue |
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<pacopablo> |
webPragmatist: is it not running? or is it running an giving an error? |
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<webPragmatist> |
it's not giving an output |
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<webPragmatist> |
and i'm not entirely sure what the hook is supposed to do. I know it closes the ticket if you put "Closes #11" in the deal |
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<webPragmatist> |
which it's not doing |
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<webPragmatist> |
but does trac add the hyperlink to the ticket automatically? |
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<webPragmatist> |
(that is in the svn msg) |
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<webPragmatist> |
if not then it atleast does that |
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<pacopablo> |
well, i'm not sure if it's supposed to actually produce any output |
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<webPragmatist> |
well i mean it says there's an error |
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<webPragmatist> |
Warning: 'post-commit' hook failed with error output: |
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<pacopablo> |
but yes, the commit message will show up in the ticket that it refers to, and it'll be wiki formatted, so links should resolve, etc. |
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<pacopablo> |
retracile: you messed with the post-commit hook before? |
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<webPragmatist> |
oh ok so it puts it in the actual ticket... |
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<webPragmatist> |
it's not doing that heh |
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<pacopablo> |
john-c-femiani: some may, depends on which ones |
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<webPragmatist> |
it just creates a changeset (but that's not what the hook does I assume) and I end up having to manually close the ticket. |
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<john-c-femiani> |
I am looking at docbook.py |
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<webPragmatist> |
and by I assum i mean i know :) |
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<pacopablo> |
webPragmatist: that's because something it wrong |
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<webPragmatist> |
gotcha |
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<pacopablo> |
it shouldn't give you the warning if it worked |
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<pacopablo> |
now, finding out "why" is the harder part |
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<pacopablo> |
and I'm not quite sure what to tell you. |
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<dlublink> |
How do I prevent trac from sending emails to a particular address? Sometimes it happens that the reporter address is actually the email gateway for trac and so when the notification is sent, it causes a loop in trac adding comments to the ticket. How do I prevent outbound email address to the address listed as smtp_from in trac.ini ? |
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<webPragmatist> |
pacopablo: the entire commit and hook is run by the user that is executing the commit right? |
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<pacopablo> |
I think there is a wiki page on t.e.o that goes over troubleshooting steps for the post-commit hook, though |
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<jhammel> |
webPragmatist: i don't think so? but am not sure |
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<pacopablo> |
webPragmatist: that i don't know. that's a subversion question. If you're using apache to host subversion, then I would assume that it's the apache user that runs the commit |
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<john-c-femiani> |
asmodai: I am looking at the docbook processor from here (http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/ProcessorBazaar) |
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<john-c-femiani> |
(http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/wiki/ProcessorBazaar/docbook.py) |
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<webPragmatist> |
pacopablo: well i'm just commiting in a shell not using webdav or anything |
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<doki_pen> |
webPragmatist: I don't think so |
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<doki_pen> |
webPragmatist: I think it's run by the user that executes the request, ie. the apache user |
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<webPragmatist> |
i'm executing the request in the shell o.O |
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<doki_pen> |
it most cases, the apache user couldn't su to different users anyway |
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<doki_pen> |
webPragmatist: using the file:/// url? |
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<webPragmatist> |
yes it is checked out originally using file:// |
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<webPragmatist> |
so ci checks back in to file:// |
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<doki_pen> |
oh, then you are probably right |
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<pacopablo> |
john-c-femiani: that one will not work in 0.11 |
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<pacopablo> |
it's an old style macro |
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<john-c-femiani> |
Tnaks |
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<john-c-femiani> |
Thanks |
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<webPragmatist> |
oi |
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<doki_pen> |
webPragmatist: just make a shell script that writes the user to a file |
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<doki_pen> |
then you'll know |
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<doki_pen> |
echo $USER > /tmp/user |
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<dlublink> |
(2) How do I prevent trac from sending emails to a particular address? Sometimes it happens that the reporter address is actually the email gateway for trac and so when the notification is sent, it causes a loop in trac adding comments to the ticket. How do I prevent outbound email address to the address listed as smtp_from in trac.ini ? |
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<pacopablo> |
dlublink: I don't think you can |
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<dlublink> |
ok |
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<dlublink> |
I thought as much, I searched through the docs and all |
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<dlublink> |
but sometimes people have tricks that aren't in the docs |
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<pacopablo> |
dlublink: but that begs the quesiton, why are things being comitted by the mail gateway? |
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<pacopablo> |
and I take it you're using the email2trac script, correct? |
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<dlublink> |
Trouble is, we added trac well after the project started and redirected support@ to be trac email2trac |
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<dlublink> |
trouble is, there are still some things in the system that send messages to support from support |
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<pacopablo> |
so? |
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<pacopablo> |
ahh |
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<dlublink> |
when that happens, it tries to notify the reporter and causes a loop |
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<dlublink> |
I know the correct solution would be not to have anyone/anyscript sending messages as support to support |
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<dlublink> |
but there are too many places that do this to correct |
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<osimons> |
john-c-femiani: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/Proposals/NewHelp |
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<jhammel> |
dlublink: i'd say you're better off fixing it via MTA configuration |
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<dlublink> |
I have postfix as my mta |
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<jhammel> |
er, s/as/of |
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<dlublink> |
trouble is the header_checks ( which can successfully identify this ) does not apply to local emails |
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<pacopablo> |
dlublink: http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/tags/trac-0.11/trac/ticket/notification.py#L292 |
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<pacopablo> |
you could add a little code in there to remove support@ from the list of 'torcpts' |
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<dlublink> |
hmm, I was hoping it wouldn't come to that. I am not good in python. |
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<dlublink> |
What format is the torcpts in ? An array? |
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<pacopablo> |
a list |
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<pacopablo> |
one sec, I'll whip up an untested patch |
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<dlublink> |
hmmm |
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<dlublink> |
hang on |
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<dlublink> |
are you familiar with postfix header_checks? |
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<pacopablo> |
yes |
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<dlublink> |
Is it possible to have two headers checked at the same time? |
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<dlublink> |
For example, check To and one other header and if both are true we would drop the email? |
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<dlublink> |
inbound messages go through header_checks and I could use the trac email headers combined with to to eliminate it |
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<john-c-femiani> |
osimons: Oh, does that trac documentation is already not generated by the wiki? |
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<dlublink> |
if you whip up a patch, it might be best to check the value from smtp_from? |
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<osimons> |
john-c-femiani: que? what do you mean? |
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<pacopablo> |
dlublink: hmm, not sure about header_checks, not that familiar with it |
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<dlublink> |
ok |
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<pacopablo> |
dlublink: shouldn't matter as the notficiation is coming from a ticket, to to a ticket. Should there ever be a need to notify "support@" |
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<pacopablo> |
? |
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<john-c-femiani> |
osimons: I mean, I thought that documenters jsut edited the wiki pages on the trac site to make the documentaiton, but that link makes it look like the docs. are generated and just displayed as wiki pages |
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<dlublink> |
Hmm, no we should never notify another support@ |
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<dlublink> |
support@ should never ever ever be notified |
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<dlublink> |
well, to say it more generically. smtp_from should never be notified |
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<pacopablo> |
but, what if smtp_from is a user submitting a bug/fix/etc ? |
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<osimons> |
john-c-femiani: it will be at some stage, yes. today trac project (trac.e...org) edits wiki and merge to repos before releases, but it is cumbersome to handle branching and the like, documenting a feature 2 months before release etc. newhelp will allow us to write docs as we implement features, and then that doc become available by hooking it up on the trac site. |
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<dlublink> |
Perhaps a trac.ini option that would decide on that? |
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<dlublink> |
remove smtp_from torcpts of smtp_ignore_from =1 ? |
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<pacopablo> |
dlublink: now we're getting into the whole notfication rewrite that needs to be done |
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<dlublink> |
yea |
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<dlublink> |
that's try |
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<dlublink> |
true* |
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<pacopablo> |
which is way more complicated than the hack that I'm doing |
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<dlublink> |
hehehe |
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<john-c-femiani> |
osimons: got it, thanks. |
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<dlublink> |
I don't like hacks : |
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<osimons> |
john-c-femiani: the big argument though is that a lot of people (like me) do not want the wiki cluttered by trac help documentation (as you know it installs all default help pages in new installs) - i want the wiki to contain only docs for the new project |
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<dlublink> |
pacopbalo, I am also a programmer ( in php ) and I always try so hard to avoid hacks because I always regret it later |
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<dlublink> |
that's al |
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<dlublink> |
all |
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<dlublink> |
hmmm |
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<dlublink> |
on the other hand, I could possibly rewrite the from header on the way in ... |
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<pacopablo> |
dlublink: that you could do |
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<dlublink> |
I think that could be a good solution |
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<dlublink> |
header_checks applies |
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<pacopablo> |
indeed |
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<john-c-femiani> |
osimons: I was concerned because some developers where arguing that a projects wiki is not a place to put the projects docs, and they said 'even Trac is moving their docs from the wiki' to strengthen the argument. |
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<dlublink> |
pacopablo, have you ever done a header_check where you rewrite the header instead of rejecting or ignoring it? |
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<dlublink> |
think I found it |
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<dlublink> |
How do I prevent trac from sending emails to a particular address? Sometimes it happens that the reporter address is actually the email gateway for trac and so when the notification is sent, it causes a loop in trac adding comments to the ticket. How do I prevent outbound email address to the address listed as smtp_from in trac.ini ? |
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<dlublink> |
oops |
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<dlublink> |
stupid clipboard |
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<dlublink> |
http://readlist.com/lists/postfix.org/postfix-users/18/92577.html |
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<pacopablo> |
dlublink: no |
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<john-c-femiani> |
osimons: It looks like Trac is talking about removing *your* wiki from *my* project site, is that right? |
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<coderanger> |
john-c-femiani: Wikis also are horrible for producing good documentation |
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<osimons> |
john-c-femiani: yes, primarily - removing 'our' help pages from 'your' wiki is the main point. |
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<osimons> |
'clutter' |
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<coderanger> |
newhelp has a second purpose that is as-yet unfinished |
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<john-c-femiani> |
coderanger: what that? |
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<dlublink> |
pacopablo |
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<coderanger> |
space for your docs too |
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<dlublink> |
it works with the incoming filter to replace the from line I think |
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<coderanger> |
Along with a toolchain to cull them out of the versioncontrol system you use |
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<dlublink> |
I tested it with a neutral address, so I think this will work. |
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<dlublink> |
Nobody is silly enough to add support in the trac interface. |
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<osimons> |
john-c-femiani: it all depends on the doc level and needs you have. wikis are great as a collaborative way of everyone easily adding docs - but don't think Airbus uses it for airplane documentation |
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<dlublink> |
Thanks for your help and helping my brainstorm |
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<john-c-femiani> |
coderanger: cool -- does that require RST |
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<osimons> |
coderanger: plugins adding pages are supported by newhelp as-is. |
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<pacopablo> |
dlublink: you're welcome |
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<coderanger> |
john-c-femiani: No, though that will be an option |
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<coderanger> |
osimons: Yeah, I just need to make some stuff to link that + versioncontrol + mimeview |
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<osimons> |
john-c-femiani: your help plugin can format in whatever way it likes - html, rst, wiki etc. |
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<osimons> |
coderanger: a plugin for the trac purposes, i suppose |
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<john-c-femiani> |
osimons: Yes, but the wiki is a place you can edit them and then use that as a basis for release docs right? |
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<osimons> |
coderanger: t.e.o should disable default help plugins (providers), and write a new provider that pulls from our various branches |
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<coderanger> |
I wouldn't recommend it for anything tied to a release |
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<coderanger> |
osimons: sort of, actually it will pull from a temp folder generated by the sphinx build process |
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<osimons> |
john-c-femiani: we'll see what the new workflow will be, but *how* the docs are written is somewhat diconnected from newhelp that only provides the link from docs somewhere => presentation. |
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<dlublink> |
pacopablo : on my incoming mail server I added : /^From:(.*support@example.net.*)/ Replace From: "Support Rewritten" <marc@example.net> |
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<dlublink> |
It seems to work fine |
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<john-c-femiani> |
coderanger: It seemed to me as if the wiki would make it easier for people to contribute to docs without setting up the tools (latex, docbook/xslt, graphviz, etc) |
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<coderanger> |
john-c-femiani: You will find that is a bad thing |
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<coderanger> |
john-c-femiani: Unfortunately community editing produces very bad technical documentation |
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<coderanger> |
see also: the current state of Trac's docs |
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<dlublink> |
should I open a ticket for a feature request? |
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<dlublink> |
nevermind, I found what I needed |
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<osimons> |
coderanger: i'm not so sure pulling all docs into sphinx is such a red-hot idea, but you may well prove me wrong. multiple-projects with varying configs, project internal rendering for macros, trac.ini and the like? has a planned formed in your mind? i've not put any effort into this over summer at all. |
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<evil_twin> |
New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7542 (Do not send emails to 'smtp_from') created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7542> |
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<dlublink> |
pacopablo : I opened this ticket #7542, you may be interested in |
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<john-c-femiani> |
coderanger, osimons: so what do you recomend the project wiki for? Recipes? |
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<coderanger> |
osimons: We already have stuff to patch trac rendering into ReST |
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<coderanger> |
john-c-femiani: Thats what isn't done yet, having a canned recipe for people to use |
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<coderanger> |
osimons: Not sure what multiple projects has to do with it |
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<osimons> |
got to go too. talk later |
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<john-c-femiani> |
osimons: Thankd for the explanations. |
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<osimons> |
coderanger: likely it's just me that don't quite get what you are thinking - but hopefully it will get documented in the proposal or in code one day, and then it will be easier to discuss. |
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<Hyuga> |
I think that, again depending on the size and scope of the project, the wiki is a great place for project documentation. However, I think it requires finer permission controls than exist on say, Trac's documentation. |
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<Hyuga> |
Allowing only developers, or even only certain developers to edit technical documentation pages works fine for me. |
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<Hyuga> |
Having documentation in the Trac wiki allows you to take full advantage of trac's features, such as linking to files in the repository, tickets, etc. As long as there's control over who edits it, and as long as you come up with a good organizational structure to start out with (which is tricky). |
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<jhammel> |
i find wikis are good for the layer of documentation that can't live with the package, but prefer in-source documentation as the canonical "how this works" docs |
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<jhammel> |
e.g. "How to install trac on ubuntu" is a good wiki entry; "command line arguments for trac", less so (though you could use a generated doc) |
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<Hyuga> |
True--I tried keeping source code documentation in a wiki for a while, but it was a waste of time and effort to keep it up to date. Better to use the wiki for overall architecture and usage documentation. |
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<Blackkatt> |
hi am about to add a trac but not 100% sure on how its done. do i download the trac software and go from there? |
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<jhammel> |
Blackkatt: short answer: yes |
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<Hyuga> |
Depends on your platform and what you mean by "go from there". But this is the best starting point: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall |
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<Blackkatt> |
its for the xbox platform, well i search for simuler bugs and i may have found one http://xbmc.org/trac/ticket/3815 this is kinda what happend exept i havent seen any dups like stated on that trac. the problem is that library items are not removed. |
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<Hyuga> |
I think you might be confused. This is the channel for the Trac software itself, which that site runs on. It looks to me like they don't allow anonymous bug reports. |
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<Blackkatt> |
aha, sry about that =) |
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<Hyuga> |
Try #xbmc |
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<Blackkatt> |
am there, thnx =) |
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<Blackkatt> |
hmm how to install? says i need python |
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<Blackkatt> |
am on vista 64 |
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<Blackkatt> |
nm |
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<Blackkatt> |
gah am lost, got trac installed how to run it where to go? |
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<Hyuga> |
Umm...so you did want to install Trac, or did you just want to post a bug report on a Trac site? (I had assumed the latter) |
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<Blackkatt> |
i needed to install trac right? to post? am gonna port for xbmc i was told to use trac |
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<Blackkatt> |
post* |
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<jhammel> |
Blackkatt: if you're talking about posting a ticket, you don't need to install trac |
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