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August 26, 2008

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[00:29:14] <Mr_M> Hi. I was wondering if there's somebody that can help me with a plugin problem? I've tried to install several plugins, but when I try to add custom plugin permissions I get command failed. What am I missing? Example: "permission add scrum_master DRP_SCRUMASTER" ends with "Command failed: DRP_SCRUMASTER is not a valid action."
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[00:36:33] <kirean> Mr_M: DRP_SCRUMASTER is not a valid action
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[00:53:47] <Mr_M> kirean: yes, I know it's not for a regular trac installation, but according to the trac plugin installation I'm supposed to add these permissions after installing the plugin. So I'm wondering if I've overlooked anything in the installation progress that was supposed to enable these permissions
[00:56:53] <kirean> Mr_M: I think that indicates that the db hasn't been updated. You are trying to add DRP_SCRUMASTER to user scrum_master
[00:57:02] <kirean> but that action is not available
[00:58:05] <Mr_M> so, the DRP_SCRUMASTER role should be found i the db if I've done the installation correct
[00:58:24] <Mr_M> ok, I will check that, thx
[00:58:58] <kirean> I'm no expert.. but that seems to be what the error message indicates
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[02:05:35] <eMBee> good afternoon
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[02:07:12] <sam`> coderanger: ping?
[02:08:09] <sam`> i'm trying to install ticketdeleteplugin for trac 0.11, using easy_install. it downloads and installs, but then fails on installing the TracWebAdmin dependency
[02:08:24] <sam`> which sounds about right, since the admin module is now part of trac's core, right?
[02:09:28] <sam`> i tried ignoring this error, and continued by putting ticketdelete.* = enabled in trac.ini
[02:09:37] <sam`> but the delete link is still not showing up
[02:09:54] <sam`> i had this working with trac 0.10, but now that i switched to 0.11, no luck
[02:11:39] <sam`> hum. i might miss the inherit section.
[02:17:25] <sam`> that changed stuff, but did not make it appear :/
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[02:24:14] <Mr_M> Hmm, this is probably a really n00b question, but how do I access mye projects /db/trac.db. Trying to connect to it with sqlite says: Unable to open database "trac.db": file is encrypted or is not a database
[02:26:33] <Mr_M> sam`: And you don't have the plugin in your projects plugins directory? Are you getting any errors?
[02:28:21] <sam`> the plugin is installed system wide
[02:28:31] <sam`> in /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/
[02:28:50] <sam`> or should i move the egg file to /usr/share/trac/plugins ?
[02:28:57] <kirean> Mr_M: I do it like this: sqlite3 /misc/tracprojects/proj1/db/trac.db
[02:29:08] <sam`> and add plugins_dir = ... in the inherit section of the trac.ini files ?
[02:29:26] <sam`> Mr_M: yep, its sqlite3 now.
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[02:38:55] <sam`> this is making me mad.
[02:39:10] <sam`> why the hell isn't this plugin showing up
[02:39:22] <sam`> tractocmacro is installed the same way, in the same directory
[02:39:25] <sam`> and works
[02:40:32] <Mr_M> sam`: no, I don't think you should have it locally in the project. I did and got problems when installing another plugin
[02:41:36] <Mr_M> sam`: is it supposed to be installed system wide if it's included in 0.11? I'm currently using 0.10, so I don't know how it's included
[02:43:02] <Mr_M> sam`: If you're upgrading trac from 0.10 to 0.11 i guess you'll have to remove the plugin from the system wide plugins since it's natively installed (but I'm a newbee, what do I now) ;)
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[02:50:52] <sam`> Mr_M: the webadmin plugin is not the issue
[02:51:06] <sam`> i have removed it, upgraded to 0.11, and the admin section works just fine
[02:51:21] <sam`> but the ticket delete plugin installs, but does not show up
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[03:09:15] <sam`> works.
[03:09:26] <sam`> the version downloaded by easy_install was too old
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[04:11:51] <Monster> i have problem with Notification.
[04:12:29] <Monster> when i create a ticket it won't send e-mail to google account, but to another one (non-gmail) will
[04:12:42] <Monster> it is problem on my side, or google bans my smtp ?
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[04:16:34] <kirean> SKOM: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracNotification
[04:17:15] <SKOM> kirean: i know... i did it with this man pagfe
[04:17:18] <SKOM> *page
[04:17:20] <kirean> SKOM: did you read info on gmail there?
[04:17:24] <kirean> ok
[04:17:53] <SKOM> no i didn't
[04:18:23] <SKOM> maybe i should read more next time
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[04:23:14] <SKOM> hm... i added line "use_tls = true" ... but mails aren't delivered :(
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[04:48:35] <SKOM> maybe i explain it bad... i have smtp server (sendmail) on that server with trac. I do not know, where the problem is :-/
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[04:58:20] <cy_`> hello guys
[04:58:52] <cy_`> is there a trac plugin which recommends already existing tag (ajax like) or a dropdown menu to select already existing tags?
[04:59:01] <cy_`> s/tag/tags/
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[05:15:14] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7561 (AttributeError: 'array.array' object has no attribute 'strip' in SVN ...) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7561>
[05:20:51] <prologic__> Where is trac.util.compat sorted() ?
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[05:22:56] <prologic__> what the hell
[05:23:04] <prologic__> where is sorted suppose to be defined ?
[05:23:30] <prologic__> mercurial-plugin-0.12 tries to from trac.util.compat sorted
[05:23:36] <prologic__> but it's not there in the latest trunk :/
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[05:35:05] <prologic__> What mercurial plugin works with trunk ?
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[06:32:42] <zimnyx> Is there a trac-admin permission add <magic word for all permissions> ?
[06:36:58] <sam`> zimnyx: TRAC_ADMIN ?
[06:38:46] <zimnyx> thx
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[06:39:05] <cy_`> is there a macro to show pages containing dead links to a non-existing page?
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[07:19:58] <schelcj> quick question about mod_python; this line PythonOption PYTHON_EGG_CACHE /var/cache/trac/project is being ignored
[07:20:20] <schelcj> and i end up with a error page about /root/.egg-cache not being writable
[07:20:41] <schelcj> whats the trick to setting this env var?
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[07:21:26] <domluc> hi folks, I need small tips about optimization of a trac install
[07:21:49] <domluc> mt trac env is 0.11 stable, postgresql database
[07:21:56] <domluc> 11k tickets
[07:22:20] <domluc> and in last month, the performance decrease a lot
[07:23:31] <domluc> I had try various approuches , wsgi, postgresql otimizations, and some others
[07:24:01] <domluc> but today, to load one ticket , it spents about 5 or 6 seconds
[07:24:30] <domluc> ah,, this in lan
[07:25:37] <domluc> my conclusion until now is that connection with db is the problem, ' cause preferences panel and some other simples pages load quickly
[07:25:57] <domluc> is all about tickets :-(
[07:26:09] <domluc> so guys, something to say?
[07:28:12] <jhammel> domluc: not that i can think of
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[07:28:35] <jhammel> domluc: maybe try loading tickets without trac, see if the db connection is the slowdown
[07:29:32] <domluc> I did this, and the SQL generated by trac run quickly direct in psql
[07:33:50] <domluc> well, as my problem is so generic.... i ask for other help
[07:34:20] <domluc> what SQL queries trac did in a ticket view?
[07:34:57] <schelcj> worked around my problem
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[07:46:26] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7561 (AttributeError: 'array.array' object has no attribute 'strip' in SVN ...) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7561#comment:1>
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[07:56:14] <nmcbride> hey guys i just installed trac and tested it with tracs web server
[07:56:23] <nmcbride> is there a doc showing how to setup modpython behind apache?
[07:57:03] <nmcbride> oh nvm sry I found it
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[08:10:10] <mrayzenoss> do changes to reports show up in any history? I just fixed the ";" in a report and I don't see it recorded anywhere. This makes me nervous that someone might break a report and we have no change-log
[08:13:42] <mrayzenoss> not in the Timeline and there's no page history for reports
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[08:31:43] <coderanger> mrayzenoss: They are not versioned since they can only be edited by admins
[08:32:01] <mrayzenoss> hmmm... so our site is probably misconfigured to allow everyone as admins?
[08:32:10] <mrayzenoss> ick
[08:32:41] <coderanger> quite possible
[08:32:46] <coderanger> @wiki TracPermissions
[08:32:47] <evil_twin> coderanger: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions
[08:33:33] <jhammel> cmlenz: any idea when the AutoQuery patch might be applied?
[08:33:46] <cmlenz> OMG :P
[08:33:57] <cmlenz> someone must've forgotten about that :/
[08:33:58] <cmlenz> sorry
[08:34:12] <mrayzenoss> coderanger: what if I wanted to restore the report? It still seems that a change history on the reports page would be useful
[08:34:13] <jhammel> cmlenz: is that a 'soon'? ;)
[08:34:16] <cmlenz> I'm a bit out of the loop wrt to trac
[08:34:43] <jhammel> cmlenz: you do mainly genshi stuff as far as edgewall projects?
[08:34:45] <coderanger> mrayzenoss: Like I said, admin only so we assume you know what you are doing. That won't change any time soon
[08:34:55] <mrayzenoss> fair enough
[08:35:23] <cmlenz> jhammel: genshi and babel… I used to do a lot more in trac, but lately not so much
[08:35:42] * jhammel should check out babel one of these days
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[08:36:02] <cmlenz> jhammel: where's the most recent version of the patch?
[08:36:14] <jhammel> cmlenz: should be on the ticket....lemme look
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[08:36:51] <jhammel> cmlenz: http://trac-hacks.org/attachment/ticket/3226/autoquery_patch_vs_r7349.txt
[08:37:01] <jhammel> cmlenz: if it needs updating, please let me know
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[08:37:28] <cmlenz> oh there's no ticket on teo?
[08:37:52] <cmlenz> why did you keep all that on trac-hacks?
[08:38:40] <cmlenz> (just wondering)
[08:38:50] <jhammel> cmlenz: i'll make one if there isn't; i asked at some point if i should make a teo ticket and didn't get a response (admittedly, asking for definative answers over IRC isn't necessarily good methodology)
[08:39:36] <jhammel> cmlenz: no real reason why stuff is on th except historical
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[08:42:33] <cmlenz> I really can't stand the new forward-porting approach :/
[08:43:21] <jhammel> cmlenz: forward-porting?
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[08:43:54] <cmlenz> unrelated to your patch… that we do changes on the 0.11 branch first and then (maybe, sometimes) port them to trunk
[08:44:29] <jhammel> cmlenz: ah; yeah, that's a bit of a weird methodology, though we do it here too from time to time (though we try to avoid it)
[08:44:34] <coderanger> People still do that?
[08:45:11] <cmlenz> coderanger: cd trunk; svnmerge avail --log
[08:45:56] * coderanger just needs to stage a coup and take over trac to rule with an iron fist
[08:46:39] <cmlenz> heh
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[08:46:50] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7562 (AutoQuery as a patch to trac) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7562> || Ticket #5340 (Patch to redirect unauthenticated users to login) reopened <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5340#comment:17>
[08:46:54] <jhammel> cmlenz: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7562
[08:47:17] <cmlenz> thanks
[08:47:27] <jhammel> cmlenz: np, thank you
[08:48:14] <coderanger> cmlenz: wouldn't that not be a 0.11 branch thing anyway?
[08:48:35] <cmlenz> yeah
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[08:50:26] <Stepan> hi there
[08:50:40] <Stepan> is there a way of hiding wiki changes in the timeline, without disabling the wiki?
[08:50:50] <coderanger> Stepan: Uncheck "wiki changes"
[08:52:27] <Stepan> can i set that as a default somehow?
[08:55:16] <coderanger> Not without changing code
[08:55:30] <coderanger> It will be persistent for your account though
[09:05:31] <Stepan> the thing is, we don't use the wiki, but all help pages in the ticket system point to it...
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[09:05:52] <Stepan> at some point i started changing all the URLs manually, but it was gone after the next upgrae
[09:07:59] <Stepan> ah I just removed ITimelineEventProvider from the implements list of the WikiModule class
[09:17:07] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7498]: Improve the `ngettext`-style functions to automaticaly add a `num` ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7498>
[09:17:53] <coderanger> Stepan: If you don't use the wiki, there won't be any wiki pages in the feed (barring the initial install)
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[09:23:14] <coderanger> asmodai: You can add me as a list mod if you want
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[09:24:09] <asmodai> coderanger: cool
[09:24:15] <asmodai> coderanger: same address as for -dev?
[09:24:32] <coderanger> It probably has to be a google account, right?
[09:24:52] <coderanger> coderanger @ gmail is my google address
[09:24:57] <asmodai> haaai
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[09:28:08] <asmodai> coderanger: ok done
[09:29:00] <asmodai> coderanger: Nowadays when people email the list and they came here by some project's webpage and misreading the help thinking the list is for their project, I just delete them.
[09:29:20] <coderanger> rgr
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[09:40:59] <vengfulsquirrel> Is there a block escape syntax? Will {{{,}}} work ?
[09:41:31] <vengfulsquirrel> *for the wiki
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[09:42:34] <retracile> vengfulsquirrel: yes. There's a page describingg the wiki format
[09:45:06] <vengfulsquirrel> wow instead of looking for escape i should be looking for preformatted, thanks, i see it now after looking at it multiple times yesterday, must have been a coffee black out
[09:47:22] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7499]: The values of ticket fields on the ticket page now link to queries using ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7499>
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[10:29:46] <nmcbride> hey guys I installed a new trac instance and it told me to do an upgrade
[10:30:06] <nmcbride> then it said it couldn't backup the db because only sqlite is supported for the backup
[10:30:11] <nmcbride> and made me skip that
[10:30:35] <nmcbride> now I'm getting this: http://pastebin.com/m5ea70fb0
[10:36:20] <Stepan> coderanger: i'm usually calling trac-admin wikiupdate every time i install a bugfix version.. but basically you're right.. i'm just doing cosmetics there..
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[10:46:47] <hjw> Can anybody here give me a hand on how to move a trac site to a new version of Python?.... The site was running on a windows server<sigh> under python24 and I managed to update trac from .10 to .11 (after some pain) and then I figured that I'd move it to python2.5, since that's what I run on my mac at home.... for some reason the program is still trying to access the python24 directory and...
[10:46:49] <hjw> ...trac-admin in the 25 scripts directory won't run.
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[10:47:46] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7563 (Browse Source Tab alternates in Nav between visible and not) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7563>
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[11:02:06] <hjw> Hello? Any insights on moving a trac install to a new version of python?
[11:03:35] <jhammel> hjw: probably easier just to reinstall trac, imho
[11:04:59] <hjw> Yes, I did a clean python install and clean install of trac as well as genshi but I need the site that was running on python24 to work and it isn't right now.. plus trac-admin isn't even working in the python25 directory
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[11:22:05] <gwoo> hjw: im running it on python25, my only issues have been with themes
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[11:26:55] <pfo> hey guys - i have that stupid error about the svn python bindings. seeps to be confined to apache/mod_python - since in python everything works and tracd also works as expected.
[11:27:20] <pfo> tried any combination of $PYTHONPATH, $LD_LIBRARY_PATH/$LD_RUN_PATH etc. no success.
[11:27:24] <pfo> any hints?
[11:29:27] <pfo> it's a solaris box if that matters, apache, python etc are built from source. same for trac. svn is the "certified" sparc binary from CollabNet.
[11:31:43] <pfo> i know that they used python2.3 for the bindings so i'm getting a runtime warning about ctypes version mismatch. i don't think it should cause that kind of problems since tracd doesn't complain and works ok.
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[11:39:04] <nmcbride> does anyone know where postgres actually keeps the data?
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[12:18:28] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7562 (AutoQuery as a patch to trac) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7562#comment:3>
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[12:28:48] <k0p> trac supports i18n?
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[12:31:38] <osimons> k0p: in trunk it does (0.12dev)
[12:32:14] <osimons> @wiki 0.12/TracInstall
[12:32:15] <evil_twin> osimons: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.12/TracInstall
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[12:34:58] <adrianrf> hi - Trac newb here. how do I revert changes I made in the Wiki? looking in the UI, Help, FAQ hasn't helped
[12:35:16] <k0p> thanks osimons
[12:36:55] <osimons> adrianrf: either check the version list for the page and make a new edit, or if you have admin permission you can delete most recent version(s).
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[12:38:02] <nmcbride> hey guys
[12:38:14] <nmcbride> is there anyway to downgrade my dbs from 11.1 to 10.4?
[12:38:44] <nmcbride> it said it couldn't do anything to them because it isn't an sqlite db but now that I've gone back to 10.4 its saying i need to upgrade everything all over again
[12:39:42] <osimons> nmcbride: something like "this database version is newer than current trac version"?
[12:39:44] <adrianrf> @osimons, thanks -- have looked at the version lists -- with radio buttons, and with diff display -- but I don't see how I can act on the versions. not seeing the verb? don't have admin on this wiki.
[12:39:44] <evil_twin> adrianrf: Error: "osimons," is not a valid command.
[12:40:04] <nmcbride> osimons: yes
[12:41:02] <osimons> adrianrf: just pick a specific version you want, and then at the bottom you can download in alternative format - you'll find the actual text for that version of the page
[12:41:40] <adrianrf> oh, and then paste it in again as a new change?
[12:42:42] <osimons> nmcbride: no backup? i don't remember there being any schema-breaking changes between 0.10, so you could edit the system table version row and lower it manually - from 21 to 20 or something. it should work... again, backup presumed...
[12:43:04] <nmcbride> osimons: ok, what about the fact that its saying: TracError: The Trac Environment needs to be upgraded.
[12:43:19] <nmcbride> i restored everythign with tape backups and there should not be any 11.1 stuff on there
[12:43:21] <nmcbride> just 10.4
[12:43:24] <osimons> adrianrf: that is the easy option, yes - use Review changes button to make sure that it reverses what you want
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[12:43:36] <adrianrf> k - may thanks!
[12:43:40] <adrianrf> many
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[12:44:14] <nmcbride> so is that upgrade statement just gerneral and will actually go back to 10.4 or is that not right?
[12:44:15] <osimons> nmcbride: so you say, that you have a 0.10 database, and 0.10 code like you had before (like yesterday) and it now asks you to upgrade? are you sure you're on 0.10?
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[12:44:29] <nmcbride> i had installed 11.1
[12:44:45] <nmcbride> but i replaced the binaries, and site-packages, and everything else i could find
[12:44:52] <nmcbride> back to all 10.4
[12:45:01] <nmcbride> and it is still giving that.
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