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September 10, 2008

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[00:04:48] <roh> nih.. one of these days again... apache still hates me ;)
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[00:08:00] <roh> [Wed Sep 10 09:08:37 2008] [error] [client 92.195.82.195] Premature end of script headers: trac.fcgi
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[00:19:34] <lisppaste5> roh pasted "nonworking apache config" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/66583
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[01:07:57] <roh> *sigs*
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[01:20:38] <roh> gaaah.. it doesnt eat the eggs cache
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[01:36:34] <roh> means it works now
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[01:56:08] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7614 (Cannot login) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7614> || Ticket #7613 (Cannot login) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7613> || MultipleRepositorySupport edited <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/MultipleRepositorySupport?version=15>
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[02:05:15] <roh> mmmh.. multirepo.. am waiting for this ;)
[02:05:33] <roh> just need.. multiple git and svn in that now ;)
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[02:09:44] <asmodai> tinh: hey
[02:09:51] <asmodai> tinh: http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/mozilla-committed-to-gecko.ars/2
[02:09:58] <asmodai> tinh: you got a mention with Pencil
[02:10:25] <tinh> asmodai, yeah, just read it this morning
[02:11:57] <asmodai> congratulations
[02:12:37] <tinh> asmodai, thanks
[02:12:50] <tinh> asmodai, when does 0.12 release?
[02:13:07] <asmodai> mm, good question, need to get some time on the translation stuff again
[02:14:10] <tinh> asmodai, yeah, me too, I just want to know the schedule to arrange my time
[02:14:45] <asmodai> gimme a translation already :P
[02:15:48] <tinh> asmodai, you want to get it now?
[02:15:58] <tinh> how can I send you via IRC?
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[02:17:41] <tinh> asmodai, or give me your email, I will send it to you, I translated 1000 lines or so
[02:17:45] <tinh> 2/3 to go :D
[02:17:46] <asmodai> \o/
[02:17:53] <asmodai> tinh: asmodai@in-nomine.org
[02:18:09] <tinh> asmodai, okie, I will send you a copy now, as a backup :))
[02:18:27] <asmodai> \o/
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[02:19:59] <tinh> asmodai, check your mail now! :D
[02:20:55] <asmodai> probably greylisted :P
[02:21:15] <tinh> asmodai, ac ac
[02:21:57] <tinh> got it?
[02:22:34] <asmodai> it's greylisted for now ;)
[02:22:36] <asmodai> I will get it soon
[02:23:30] <tinh> asmodai, oh no
[02:23:48] <tinh> asmodai, how can you greylist a good contributor and user of Trac like me? ;))
[02:24:18] <asmodai> heh, you're sending from the Google MTAs :P
[02:24:34] <tinh> asmodai, yep, any problems?
[02:25:45] <tinh> asmodai, I used the webmail of Gmail, actually it's Google Apps
[02:26:19] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7513]: Add Slovene translation. Submitted by: vezjakv PR: #7487 <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7513>
[02:30:00] <asmodai> tinh: I have quite a strict anti-spam setup here :)
[02:31:57] <asmodai> 30 translations already. not all done or so, but still
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[02:33:24] <Mihwas[wrk]> Hello everybody!
[02:33:31] <tinh> asmodai, I see
[02:35:29] <Mihwas[wrk]> Can somebody consult me? I'v got one Subversion repository for many projects. How can I use separate Trac's projects for each Svn projects in my repository?
[02:35:44] <Mihwas[wrk]> join #xplanner
[02:35:49] <Mihwas[wrk]> sorry =(
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[02:51:32] <asmodai> tinh: got it
[02:52:16] <tinh> asmodai, okie
[02:55:51] <asmodai> tinh: only Xuân is your last name, right?
[02:55:52] <Mihwas[wrk]> and what about my question? Can anybody help me?
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[02:56:09] <asmodai> Mihwas[wrk]: perhaps the tracforge solution might help, not sure
[02:56:30] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7518]: Update Greek translation. Submitted by: Tilemahos Manolatos & Aristotelis ... <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7518> || Changeset [7517]: Update Korean translations. Submitted by: KIM Taedong PR: #5477 <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7517> || Changeset [7516]: Add David Lodge for en_GB. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7516> || Changeset [7515]: Set the Language-Team address. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7515> || Changeset [7514]: Add (British) English. Submitted by: David Lodge PR: #7417 <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7514>
[03:00:20] <tinh> asmodai, I don't know exactly the way map Vietnamese name to US name
[03:00:29] <asmodai> no worries
[03:00:35] <tinh> asmodai, people call me Tinh,
[03:00:40] <tinh> so my first name is Tinh
[03:00:46] <tinh> my last name is Truong
[03:00:52] <tinh> and my middle name is Xuan
[03:00:55] <asmodai> ah
[03:01:04] <asmodai> that's curious since you put Xuan last
[03:01:18] <asmodai> hence my confusion :)
[03:01:31] <asmodai> I would expect moe Tinh Xuan Truong then in your From ;)
[03:01:32] <tinh> asmodai, because I have time work in Sun, they create an access card with the name Tinh Truong Xuan :D
[03:01:42] <asmodai> ah
[03:02:02] <asmodai> so if I list you as Tinh Xuan Truong, that's ok? (with proper accents mind you)
[03:02:19] <tinh> asmodai, that's ok
[03:02:23] <asmodai> ok
[03:02:49] <tinh> asmodai, because I don't know which way is right, haha
[03:03:08] <tinh> Tinh Truong Xuan or Tinh Xuan Truong, that's the question :D
[03:03:57] <asmodai> Western style: Tinh Xuan Truong
[03:03:58] <macmaN6789> whats the deal with default_query
[03:04:07] <asmodai> Asian style I guess: TRUONG Tinh Xuan
[03:04:16] <asmodai> tinh: http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6629 :P
[03:04:22] <macmaN6789> how come having status!=closed&group=component the group= has no effect
[03:04:23] <tinh> asmodai, no asian style is Truong Xuan Tinh
[03:04:39] <asmodai> but why the Xuan before Tinh?
[03:04:44] <asmodai> Does it have a special meaning?
[03:04:55] <asmodai> like a clan of the family or something else?
[03:05:36] <tinh> asmodai, it's just a middle name, we can pick up whatever we want, that's for my family
[03:05:57] <asmodai> ok, well, I know some cultures have a special meaning for middle name as well
[03:06:05] <tinh> asmodai, yep
[03:06:10] <tinh> in vienam
[03:06:37] <tinh> some family have to pick up the right middle, to identify the level of successor
[03:06:45] <tinh> asmodai, some said that to me :)
[03:06:48] <asmodai> ahh ok
[03:07:08] <asmodai> Thai names are also funny, hardly anyone calls someone else by their full name :S
[03:07:20] <macmaN6789> i named my bot ong ba
[03:07:22] <macmaN6789> ong bak
[03:07:49] <tinh> asmodai, because they are too long to speak I think
[03:07:50] <asmodai> ong bak, heh
[03:08:47] <asmodai> tinh: Was something else
[03:08:53] <tinh> asmodai, surachai jarturabat :D
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[03:10:33] <dfi> hi
[03:10:54] <roh> gnnnh.. why doesnt trac-admin deploy sanitise file and directory permissions?
[03:11:19] <tinh> asmodai, kiatisak
[03:11:24] <roh> it file in htdocs 644 it dir 755, if file in cgi-bin 755
[03:11:44] <dfi> when i da a trac-admin dir initenv then dir/htdocs is empty - is it supposed to be that way? Oo
[03:11:52] <tinh> asmodai, some of the Thai national football team play in Vietnam
[03:12:00] <asmodai> tinh: oh really?
[03:12:18] <roh> dfi yap. thats where you put your static content for skinning
[03:12:18] <tinh> asmodai, yep, including the best one, kiatisak
[03:12:50] <roh> dfi it gets copied to <deploydir>/htdocs/site on trac-admin <env> deploy <deploydir>
[03:13:09] <tinh> asmodai, maybe in Vietnam, they get paid higher than in Thailand
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[03:13:19] <asmodai> could be
[03:13:26] <asmodai> Is there an Asian league?
[03:13:45] <tinh> asmodai, we have, Thai doesn't
[03:13:55] <tinh> asmodai, I mean professional
[03:13:58] <tinh> asmodai, I mean professional league
[03:14:11] <asmodai> Ahhh
[03:14:18] <tinh> asmodai, but the bad thing is, Vietnam National Football team is weaker than Thai's :(
[03:14:28] <asmodai> :|
[03:14:31] <asmodai> that's amazing
[03:14:38] <tinh> asmodai, sound funny, huh?
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[03:15:46] <asmodai> osimons is a slacker
[03:15:56] <macmaN6789> no doubt
[03:16:04] <tinh> asmodai, what is a slacker?
[03:16:20] <macmaN6789> someone who wears slacks
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[03:17:48] <asmodai> tinh: a person who shirks their work or duty
[03:18:27] <osimons> hang on...
[03:18:56] <dfi> hmmm, i don't really get the install instructions :(. i'm trying to set up a trac on a freebsd server. i don't have root access to the server, but the admin installed trac from ports for me. i did a mkdir project; trac-admin $HOME/project initenv. how do i set up the "apache/cgi" part in $HOME/public_html
[03:19:26] <dfi> i don't have mod_python3 unfortunately on the server :(
[03:20:10] <tinh> asmodai, I see
[03:26:41] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Changeset [7521]: Add skeleton files for Estonian. PR: #7578 <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7521> || Changeset [7520]: Fix up last translator line. <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7520> || Changeset [7519]: Update Vietnamese translations. Submitted by: Tính Trương Xuân PR: #6629 <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/7519>
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[03:32:37] <lobo71> hi
[03:45:18] <lobo71> i'm using trac 0.11 and i would like to know if the format date in html pages could be dd/mm/yyyy and not mm/dd/yyyy ?
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[03:46:19] <mihai_paiu> hello
[03:47:49] <mihai_paiu> anybody can help me with something about trac and PERMISSION_REVOKE usage ?
[03:48:18] <mihai_paiu> in manual says: PERMISSION_REVOKE remove/revoke a permission
[03:48:42] <osimons> lobo71: sure - it uses the machine/python settings to format date. check the faq - i think there is a section there
[03:48:44] <osimons> @faq
[03:48:47] <evil_twin> osimons: (faq <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "Factoids whatis $1".
[03:49:02] <osimons> uh.
[03:49:08] <mihai_paiu> if I do: permission add viewer PERMISSION_REVOKE TICKET_CREATE
[03:49:14] <mihai_paiu> I have a python error
[03:49:31] <mihai_paiu> anybody can help me please ?
[03:49:46] <mihai_paiu> Trac [/www/svn/messaging/trac_repository]> permission add viewer PERMISSION_REVOKE
[03:49:46] <mihai_paiu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[03:49:46] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/bin/trac-admin", line 7, in ?
[03:49:46] <mihai_paiu> sys.exit(
[03:49:46] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.4.egg/trac/admin/console.py", line 1253, in run
[03:49:47] <mihai_paiu> admin.run()
[03:49:49] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.4.egg/trac/admin/console.py", line 121, in run
[03:49:51] <mihai_paiu> self.cmdloop()
[03:49:53] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/cmd.py", line 142, in cmdloop
[03:49:54] <osimons> lobo71: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFaq#how-do-i-change-the-format-used-for-displaying-date-and-time
[03:49:55] <mihai_paiu> stop = self.onecmd(line)
[03:49:57] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.4.egg/trac/admin/console.py", line 104, in onecmd
[03:50:01] <mihai_paiu> rv = cmd.Cmd.onecmd(self, line) or 0
[03:50:03] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/cmd.py", line 219, in onecmd
[03:50:06] <mihai_paiu> return func(arg)
[03:50:07] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.4.egg/trac/admin/console.py", line 395, in do_permission
[03:50:10] <mihai_paiu> self._do_permission_add(user, action)
[03:50:11] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.4.egg/trac/admin/console.py", line 431, in _do_permission_add
[03:50:13] <osimons> stop - pastebin!!!!
[03:50:13] <asmodai> GAH
[03:50:15] <mihai_paiu> self._permsys.grant_permission(user, action)
[03:50:17] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.4.egg/trac/perm.py", line 320, in grant_permission
[03:50:18] <mihai_paiu> self.store.grant_permission(username, action)
[03:50:21] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.4.egg/trac/perm.py", line 226, in grant_permission
[03:50:23] <mihai_paiu> (username, action))
[03:50:25] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Trac-0.11-py2.4.egg/trac/db/util.py", line 50, in execute
[03:50:26] <mihai_paiu> return self.cursor.execute(sql_escape_percent(sql), args)
[03:50:31] <mihai_paiu> File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/sqlite/main.py", line 255, in execute
[03:50:33] <mihai_paiu> self.rs = self.con.db.execute(SQL % parms)
[03:50:35] <mihai_paiu> _sqlite.IntegrityError: columns username, action are not unique
[03:50:37] <mihai_paiu> OK
[03:50:37] <macmaN6789> holy crap
[03:50:39] <mihai_paiu> who can I ask about this ?
[03:50:41] <macmaN6789> my head hurts
[03:50:43] <aat> heh
[03:50:56] <asmodai> mihai_paiu: see topic for a pastebin
[03:51:00] <osimons> @paste
[03:51:00] <evil_twin> osimons: "paste" is http://paste.lisp.org/new/trac
[03:51:09] * macmaN6789 . o O ()("#€=("#€)=()
[03:52:09] <mihai_paiu> k
[03:53:18] <lisppaste5> mihai_paiu pasted "Tarc python error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/66588
[03:53:31] <osimons> mihai_paiu: you've hit a known bug in trac that renders a nice traceback for integrityerror instead of a nice plain message saying that the combination of user and permission already exists - so your user 'viewer' already has either PERMISSION_REVOKE or TICKET_CREATE already
[03:54:32] <osimons> (PERMISSION_REVOKE it seems from last readout that got lost in the noise...)
[03:55:42] <mihai_paiu> OK... but if I understood correctly... PERMISSION_REVOKE should let me revoke some permission for some user
[03:56:01] <osimons> yes - but no more permission than you already got, iirc.
[03:56:43] <osimons> ie. if your user don't have TICKET_CREATE, that user cannot revoke or grant such permission to another user
[03:56:45] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #280 (Add support for internationalization of templates) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/280#comment:30>
[03:57:13] <mihai_paiu> aham, now I understand
[03:57:20] <mihai_paiu> thank you for your explanation...
[03:57:24] <osimons> np.
[03:57:35] <mihai_paiu> is there any place that explains all the constants ?
[03:57:46] <osimons> @wiki TracPermissions
[03:57:47] <evil_twin> osimons: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions
[03:57:51] <mihai_paiu> because 'remove/revoke a permission' seems not enough
[03:58:06] <mihai_paiu> yes, I am coming from there :)
[03:59:52] <osimons> ah, then unlikely...
[04:00:23] <mihai_paiu> OK... I will see other solutions to remove a permission for 1 authenticated user from 100 without adding the 99 to a group ad to add permission to that group to see TICKET_CREATE
[04:00:36] <mihai_paiu> or maybe you have :)
[04:04:23] <mihai_paiu> you understand my problem ? I have 100 users for trac... they all are authenticated... and I need one user that is authenticated, that have all permissions less TICKET_CREATE
[04:04:31] <mihai_paiu> how do I do it from one move
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[04:05:54] <osimons> then just add the permissions to that user?
[04:06:57] <mihai_paiu> but that user inherits permissions from authenticated
[04:07:05] <osimons> if your permissions are tied to authenticated, then that user will always inherit those permissions
[04:07:56] <mihai_paiu> so, what I have to do is to:
[04:08:09] <mihai_paiu> 1. permission remove authenticated TICKET_CREATE
[04:08:15] <osimons> yes
[04:08:36] <mihai_paiu> 2. FOR EACH user, permission add my_user TICKET_CREATE
[04:08:39] <mihai_paiu> cool...
[04:08:44] <osimons> yes
[04:08:46] <mihai_paiu> I will get old... or I will make a script
[04:08:49] <osimons> except number 100
[04:08:54] <mihai_paiu> :)
[04:09:19] <mihai_paiu> OK, is it possible to add some kind of revoke... for inherited ?
[04:09:22] <osimons> if things may wary across roles, best off to make a new group that you assign to those 99 users instead
[04:09:48] <osimons> - currently only hold TICKET_CREATE, but may in time be a couple of permissions. make a group, and no need to iterate all users again
[04:09:56] <mihai_paiu> yes, this is what I said before explaining... to make a group...
[04:10:10] <mihai_paiu> yes, OK... I thought I can have something like
[04:10:17] <mihai_paiu> user A is part of this group
[04:10:20] <osimons> no, there is no 'revoke' that can be inherited
[04:10:27] <mihai_paiu> but please, don't let him do X and Y
[04:10:33] <osimons> nope
[04:10:38] <mihai_paiu> OK, understood... thank you very much :)
[04:10:46] <osimons> have fun :-)
[04:10:55] <mihai_paiu> you too :)
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[04:14:15] <asmodai> aat: en_AU is svn copy en_GB en_AU? :)
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[04:17:40] <lobo71> thks osimons i'm going to have a look at it
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[04:27:09] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7612 (UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xd0 in position 0: ...) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7612#comment:1>
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[04:28:44] <lobo71> always my date format in the faq nothing is explained if using tracd as web server, is it possible or do i need to use apache ?
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[04:56:41] <asmodai> heh, ok, Turkish also taken care of
[04:56:53] * asmodai wonders who to sucker, errrr, ask for some other translations
[04:57:07] <roh> heh.. do i get correctly that the documentation on teo is outdated when it comes to aliases in apache?
[04:57:26] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7615 (Retarget not recorded in ticket history.) created <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7615>
[04:58:41] <roh> atleast for fastcgi and cgi it still lists /chrome/common and not /chrome and misses mentioning trac-admin deploy
[05:01:07] <roh> also it seems my apaches on debian and ubuntu ignore the environment and i always get the defaults (but i can workaround that, np)
[05:04:51] <roh> ah.. sorry.. should have read TracInstall again also.. its noted there that the documentation is a bit buggy there
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[05:08:37] <lobo71> that's ok for my date format just have to change LC_TIME in locale env: export LC_TIME=fr_FR.utf8
[05:08:39] <lobo71> thks
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[05:27:46] <evil_twin> New news from t.e.o: Ticket #7615 (Retarget not recorded in ticket history.) closed <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7615#comment:1>
[05:32:43] <osimons> s0undt3ch: got an install error with analytics plugin now - looks like the setup isn't aware that Trac 0.11dev is now called 0.11stable? it tries to split on 'dev' and gets a valueerror for int '11stable'
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[06:27:42] <dfi> ah, i finally got it :)
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[06:36:05] <kobani> hey all - I wonder if someone can't help me - for some background, we were using SQLite3 on our old server, with one repository for all our projects... now we have one repos+trac installation per project, and we are migrating to MySQL - for most everything, we have just dropped the listof tickets, but for one project we need to migrate the tickets, I have managed to get tickets migrated to MySQL - with a couple of search and replaces, and some
[06:36:24] <kobani> I should clarify, that error is when I migrate ticket_change using the same method
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[06:44:37] <dfi> hm, i set up trac with apache and added AuthType Basic AuthName "Trac"AuthUserFile ... Require valid-user into the .htaccess file in the trac root directory
[06:44:56] <dfi> it shows a login menu and i can log in and am logged in in trac afterwards
[06:45:06] <dfi> but how can i view the trac witout loging in?
[06:45:21] <dfi> do i have to set something else then require valid-user?
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[06:48:06] <dfi> or how do i do authentification correctly
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[07:23:21] <s0undt3ch> osimons: heh, you're right
[07:24:28] <s0undt3ch> osimons: what version of trac google analytics are you using?
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[07:28:05] <osimons> s0undt3ch: i've just had it on svn:externals from repos - i've now pegged it at r70 so that it installs
[07:29:09] <s0undt3ch> osimons: analytics has a new package and new version -> google.ufsoft.org
[07:29:19] <s0undt3ch> osimons: that issue is taken care of
[07:29:42] <s0undt3ch> osimons: all my google plugs are now in tracext.google.xxxxxx
[07:29:44] <osimons> seen that - but not quite sure how i'm gonna deal with that from my master-master install script...
[07:29:58] <s0undt3ch> osimons: master-master?
[07:30:25] <s0undt3ch> osimons: the new package migrates from previous version
[07:30:44] <osimons> well, got an repos with own code + all svn:externals that fetches and installs everything. hg complicates things...
[07:31:14] <s0undt3ch> osimons: heh ;)
[07:31:29] <s0undt3ch> osimons: yeah, I'm progessivly dropping svn
[07:33:26] <osimons> i use hg a lot too, but all trac and modules have an svn location so using svn and svn:externals has been mighty convenient
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[07:33:59] <ralfWORK> hello, I have some questions about Trac form authentication
[07:34:00] <jhammel> does easy_install understand hg?
[07:34:02] <s0undt3ch> osimons: well, you'll figure something out :)
[07:34:04] <s0undt3ch> jhammel: nope
[07:34:09] <jhammel> s0undt3ch: :(
[07:34:14] <s0undt3ch> jhammel: unfortunately
[07:34:20] <s0undt3ch> dunno why :\
[07:34:25] <jhammel> 'course i guess as of 1.5 easy_install doesn't even understand svn
[07:34:25] <s0undt3ch> it's pytohn
[07:34:32] <jhammel> s0undt3ch: bc....setuptools is wonky?
[07:34:34] <ralfWORK> we have this extranet page that allows you to put in a user/password, and then select where you want to login to via a dropdown
[07:34:46] <ralfWORK> I tried to add Trac to this, but when I do it it says "invalid form token"
[07:35:19] <jhammel> ralfWORK: all trac forms have an ID token to prevent cross-site forgeries
[07:35:36] <ralfWORK> hmmm
[07:35:56] <ralfWORK> i.e. exactly what I'm trying to do. heh.
[07:36:06] <jhammel> ralfWORK: yep ;)
[07:36:13] <ralfWORK> dammit
[07:36:19] <ralfWORK> why are people so lazy